Re: Software to SEND log files only?

[Bas Smeelen]

On 09/21/2010 10:17 PM, Len Conrad wrote:
> -- Original Message --
> From: Ed Flecko 
> Date:  Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700
>
>   
>> According to the FreeBSD website
>> (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest
>> way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port.
>>
>> Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe a cron
>> script?) that would e-mail my log files to me daily?
>> 
> log files can be (too) huge as smtp DATA.  
>
> I zip mine and use the mpack port to send the .zip file as MIME attachment.
>
> Len
You could install the logrotate port /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate and
switch the logfiles you want to this instead of newsyslog

For webserver error logs I use something like this scripts which runs
from cron
#!/bin/sh

cd /home/www

LOGFILES=`ls */logfiles/errorlog.txt`

for i in $LOGFILES
do
if [ -s $i ]
then
tail -r -n 100 $i |mail -s $i 
fi
done




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CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem

[Tim Kerr]

Hi guys,

 

I have successfully used Cyrus IMAP in the past on versions 5.x, 6.x and 7.x

 

but am having a problem with a fresh installed ver 8.0 server  when running
the cyradm command

 

I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the same result
as follows

 

root# cyradm 192.168.134.171

Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)

root#

 

 

does anyone have any ideas as to what I should be looking at to fix this ?

 

regards,

Tim Kerr

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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[perryh]

> > > Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for
> > > intermittent printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets
> > > tossed away when you use the printer once every blue moon),
> > > most users would save a _LOT_ of money by looking at a laser
> > > printer instead.

+1

> > > Take a good look at Xerox'es "Phaser" line (used to be
> > > tektronix phaser). They're no longer pawn-your-firstborn
> > > expensive, they're reliable, and they basically speak every
> > > standard protocol on the market (including both Postscript
> > > and PCL).
...
> > The cheapest multi-function laser recommended by you is the
> > Phaser 6128MFP, an obviously loss-loser. The next version is
> > $1500 ...

The Phaser 6130 (which uses C, M, Y, and K toner cartridges rather
than the wax sticks that Tektronix introduced) was $400 about 4
years ago.

> > it would be total over-kill, and a gross waste of money,
> > to install one in my home.

I believe Gordon Bell, the founder of DEC, once said almost exactly
that about home computers :)

> A couple of years ago I got very tired of buying ink cartridges.
> I search and found the Samsung scx-4725fn for a very good price.
> Laser, network, all-in-one. It is not color but that was not a
> requirement for me.
>
> Just hook it up to the network and create a simple /etc/printcap
> and add the ip to /etc/hosts and away you go. 
>
> A quick search shows it can still be purchased for under $300 US.

Ditto for the Samsung ML-2571N, except that it is just a printer
and it was about $60 a few years ago IIRC.  (I am partial to the N
model, which is directly network connected.  Essentially the same
printer, but without the network port, goes for maybe $10 less.
IMO it's well worth $10 to just plug it in and have it work.)
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Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Scott Ballantyne]

Hello,

I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been
done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers.

Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a
5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X
at all.

Following the handbook's instructions:

Xorg -config xorg.conf.new 

with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from
which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from
somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process
doesn't help.

Following the instructions on widescreen monitors, I have extracted a
modeline from the log files: 

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize  490   320 # mm
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "LG (GSM)"
ModelName"W2253"
#   HorizSync30.0 - 83.0
#   VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
ModeLine "1920x1080" 138.5 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 
#   Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

And I have modified the screen as follows:

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1920x1080"
EndSubSection
EndSection

None of this has helped. If anyone can assist me, I would be very
grateful.

Thanks a lot,
Scott
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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 08:11:17AM -, Scott Ballantyne 
escribió:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been
> done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers.
> 
> Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a
> 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X
> at all.
> 
> Following the handbook's instructions:
> 
> Xorg -config xorg.conf.new 
> 
> with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from
> which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from
> somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process
> doesn't help.

add:

Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"

to the Section "ServerLayout";

matthias

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Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem

[Reko Turja]

I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the 
same result

as follows

root# cyradm 192.168.134.171


The main question is - do you need kerberos/gssapi authentication on 
your server or not?


If not, the easy fix is removing libgssapiv2 libs from 
/usr/local/lib/sasl2


For some reason, the gssapi implementation on FreeBSD 8+ is partial or 
broken and one way for more information and possible fix for gsspai 
see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/147454


-Reko 


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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[perryh]

Warren Block  wrote:

> If someone comes up with a working GDI printer emulation layer,
> that would make a great port.

They already did, and it's already in ports.
It's (part of) wine.

Unfortunately it uses CUPS.
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mkdonkey 3.0.4 BROKEN

[popov]

Hello!

Delete mldonkey from ports:

#rm /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey
#portsnap fetch extract

Install mldonkey:

# portmaster net-p2p/mldonkey

get the following message:

===>>> Currently installed version: mldonkey-3.0.4_1
===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey
===>>> This port is marked BROKEN
===>>> does not build

===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the
   BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again.


It is strange and I do not understand what's wrong

regards,

Vladimir
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Re: Mailing list software recommendations

[Jerry]

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500
Ryan Coleman  articulated:

> I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman.
> 
> I'm not against others; thoughts?

DADA Mail,  is an excellent program. It is
not in the ports system although it is on my list of things to do
eventually.

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Re: mkdonkey 3.0.4 BROKEN

[Maciej Milewski]

Wednesday 22 September 2010 09:59:35 popov napisał(a):
> Hello!
> 
> Delete mldonkey from ports:
> 
> #rm /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey
> #portsnap fetch extract
> 
> Install mldonkey:
> 
> # portmaster net-p2p/mldonkey
> 
> get the following message:
> 
> ===>>> Currently installed version: mldonkey-3.0.4_1
> ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey
> ===>>> This port is marked BROKEN
> ===>>> does not build
> 
> ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the
>BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again.
> 
> 
> It is strange and I do not understand what's wrong
> regards,
> Vladimir
Looking at http://www.freshports.org/net-p2p/mldonkey/ you can have earlier 
version than from 21.09 so it's marked as BROKEN, the version after 21.09 
should be OK. AFAIK portsnap doesn't give you the latest ports tree just a 
(maybe daily) snapshot. So I think it's the problem.

You have three ways:
 a) wait some time (maybe a day) and try again with portsnap
 b) use csup to sync your ports tree
 c) manualy download needed files for port from cvsweb 
(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey/)

Regards,
Maciej Milewski
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mkdonkey 3.0.4 BROKEN

[Robert Huff]

popov writes:

>  Delete mldonkey from ports:
>  
>  #rm /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey
>  #portsnap fetch extract
>  
>  Install mldonkey:
>  
>  # portmaster net-p2p/mldonkey
>  
>  get the following message:
>  
>  ===>>> Currently installed version: mldonkey-3.0.4_1
>  ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey
>  ===>>> This port is marked BROKEN
>  ===>>> does not build
>  
>  ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the
> BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again.
>  
>  
>  It is strange and I do not understand what's wrong

The first step is to contact the maintainer, who is listed in
the Makefile.  (When you do, please "CC" me because I;m in the sane
situation.)

Respectfully,


Robert Huff

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Re: Mailing list software recommendations

[Julian H. Stacey]

> > I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman.
> > 
> > I'm not against others; thoughts?

To quote my:
http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/gen/mail/mailman/files/
  "An agressive 5 minute killer python loop in /var/cron/tanbs/mailman
  has been killing my hosts for 5 years"

I dont know if they fixed it.
What worried me was what else might be sloppy & dangerous,
& I didnt have time/ enthusiasm to do a code read through.

One day, if when & after mailman has a code read through to confirm
it has no more killer loops, I'd like to find time for a 2nd stab
to convert all my lists on majord...@berklix.org to mailman.

Cheers,
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Re: man.cgi

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman  writes:

Matthew> On 21/09/2010 18:50:21, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>> "Lowell" == Lowell Gilbert  
>>> writes:
>> 
Lowell> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi
>> 
>> Wow.  *Ancient* Perl code.  I should contribute a rewrite to modern Perl.

Matthew> cvsweb.cgi or man.cgi?  Or both?

I bet, both.  But I have no interest in helping CVS, other than to die
the death it deserved many years ago. :)

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Re: Software to SEND log files only?

[Robert Bonomi]

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed Sep 22 00:32:52 2010
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100
> From: Bruce Cran 
> To: Adam Vande More 
> Cc: Ed Flecko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only?
>
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:16:35 -0500
> Adam Vande More  wrote:
>
> > That's pretty silly article if you ask me, sendmail is setup to that
> > by default.
> > 
> > just add something like this to cron:
> > 
> > uuencode /path/to/logfile logfile | mail -s "logfile"
> > yourem...@example.com
>
> Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP:
> the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server.

*ONE* line in the sendmail config file ("smarthost"), and sendmail does
the same thing.  



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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:


El d?a Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 08:11:17AM -, Scott Ballantyne 
escribi?:


Hello,

I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been
done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers.

Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a
5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X
at all.

Following the handbook's instructions:

Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from
which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from
somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process
doesn't help.


add:

Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"

to the Section "ServerLayout";


Please, no.

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html
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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Scott Ballantyne wrote:


I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been
done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers.

Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a
5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X
at all.

Following the handbook's instructions:

Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from
which there is no escape.


Does the black screen show a mouse pointer?  No escape including 
ctrl-alt-f1?


I have to log into the machine from somewhere else on the network to 
reboot it. Killing the Xorg process doesn't help.


Try running X without an xorg.conf.
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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 07:08:24AM -0600, Warren Block 
escribió:

> > add:
> >
> > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"
> >
> > to the Section "ServerLayout";
> 
> Please, no.
> 
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html

Nice. But with HALD I could not manage sound to work in KDE :-(

matthias

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Re: Software to SEND log files only?

[Polytropon]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100, Bruce Cran  wrote:
> Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP:
> the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server.

That's sadly true (mostly because of the amounts of spam produced
by ordinary PCs on dynamic IPs). But sendmail has a fine solution
for that, erm, problem:

define(`SMART_HOST', `mx.foo.bar')

It's often useful to have the ISP's MX handle that problem, as it
usually has a static IP and is "widely accepted". :-)

This workaround makes it possible again to use basic techniques of
communications that were common in "the good days", as it should
be. This way plain sendmail can be used. Maybe masquerading envelope
is also needed, but I'm not entirely sure.


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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[bdsfbsd]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:11:17 -0400, Scott Ballantyne  wrote:

[snip]

Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a
5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X
at all.

Following the handbook's instructions:

Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from
which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from
somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process
doesn't help.

So if you return to the tty that you started X from (maybe by Alt-F1) and  
hit Ctrl-C, that doesn't kill your X session? Reboot seems a bit drastic.



Following the instructions on widescreen monitors, I have extracted a
modeline from the log files:


[snip]


None of this has helped. If anyone can assist me, I would be very
grateful.

Thanks a lot,
Scott


I struggled with widescreen config for a while until I realized the Tao  
solution was best - have you tried starting X without any  
/etc/X11/xorg.conf at all?


Brian
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migrate system disk

[Dánielisz László]

Hello,

I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my 
system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from 
the old disk to the new one?

thank you!
Laszlo




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Re: migrate system disk

[Polytropon]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Dánielisz László 
 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as 
> my 
> system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 
> from 
> the old disk to the new one?

Are you running ZFS or UFS on that disk? If UFS, go with the
classical way: use dump + restore. There's a very good example
in the handbook.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html

Also look here:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=11680

Use a FreeBSD live system CD or DVD to prepare the target disk
(install boot code, make slices and partitions); you can also
use sysinstall to do that.

Then go with dump + restore. You'll find more hints when searching
the mailing list archive.

If you're on ZFS, use ZFS's tools to export and re-import the
pool, quite simple.



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Will FBSD Squid "port" create squid user and group?

[Ed Flecko]

Hi folks,
I guess this is a two-faceted question:

1.) If I install Squid from a "port", will in create the recommended
squid user and group for me, or will I need to pre-create a squid user
and group prior to Squid running? I like the idea of modifying
SQUID_CONFIGURE_ARGS in the squid port Makefile to customize the
software before I compile and install it, but if it doesn't create the
user and group for you...what advantage do you gain to install from a
port -vs- downloading the tarball and building from source?

:-)

2.) "As a general rule", when you install software that needs a
special user/group, will those users/groups be created when you
install from ports, or only from packages?

Thank you,
Ed
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Re: Intel video Driver

[jorge espada]

I need my laptop to work..so I removed freebsd 8.1 and installed gentoo so I
can't post the output of pciconf -lv, but I want freebsd...so if anyone
knows how to sort this problem please share...

Jorge E. Espada
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Chip Camden wrote:

> Quoth jorge espada on Tuesday, 21 September 2010:
> > Hi, I installed freebsd 8.1 (gnome) on a dell vostro 3300 (i5), but the
> > screen resolution is 800x600, when the right is 1366x768, is there any
> > driver for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor
> > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jorge E. Espada
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>
> pciconf -lv
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> I think you may be waiting for the same update to xf86-video-intel that I
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Re: migrate system disk

[Dánielisz László]

I'm using UFS.
Thank you!





From: Polytropon 
To: Dánielisz László 
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Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 6:06:46 PM
Subject: Re: migrate system disk

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Dánielisz László 
 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as 
> my 
>
> system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 
> from 

> the old disk to the new one?

Are you running ZFS or UFS on that disk? If UFS, go with the
classical way: use dump + restore. There's a very good example
in the handbook.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html

Also look here:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=11680

Use a FreeBSD live system CD or DVD to prepare the target disk
(install boot code, make slices and partitions); you can also
use sysinstall to do that.

Then go with dump + restore. You'll find more hints when searching
the mailing list archive.

If you're on ZFS, use ZFS's tools to export and re-import the
pool, quite simple.



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Re: Will FBSD Squid "port" create squid user and group?

[Polytropon]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0700, Ed Flecko  wrote:
> I like the idea of modifying
> SQUID_CONFIGURE_ARGS in the squid port Makefile to customize the
> software before I compile and install it, [...]

Instead of modifying the Makefile itself, consider writing your
changes into a Makefile.local which will be used to override
settings in Makefile. At least, it worked that way in the past...


> [...] what advantage do you gain to install from a
> port -vs- downloading the tarball and building from source?

Using packages always gives you the DEFAULT settings the corresponding
port was built with. If you need to change those settings, use the
port, Luke. :-)



> 2.) "As a general rule", when you install software that needs a
> special user/group, will those users/groups be created when you
> install from ports, or only from packages?

As far as I remember, those "post-installation tasks" will be done
in both cases. So port AND package will create them.



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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[David Brodbeck]

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi  wrote:
> A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license printer
> manufacurers to build to it.   They _would_ obejct if somebody used
> their technology to compete against them.
>
> B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS O/S.
>   if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a
>   'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each- non-MS
>   system that has such a printer attached.

If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on
Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you
wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X.  In
reality, such printers are pretty easy to find.

Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple economics. ;)
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Re: migrate system disk

[Dick Hoogendijk]

 On 22-9-2010 17:06, Dánielisz László wrote:

I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my
system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from
the old disk to the new one?


Attach the new disk to your system and do a dump / restore action (man 
dump/restore for options). The FreeBSD manual has very good examples.

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Re: migrate system disk

[Leslie Jensen]

On 2010-09-22 19:20, Dánielisz László wrote:

I'm using UFS.
Thank you!






I've just done that myself and by chance I found out that ghost4linux 
can copy a disk with UFS file systems. So if you don't have to worry 
about other partition sizes, you could try it. You will find on the 
Parted magic disk


http://partedmagic.com/

/Leslie

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Re: compat4x broken in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE?

[CyberLeo Kitsana]

On 09/21/2010 10:01 PM, Steve Polyack wrote:
> ...
> options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries
> ...
> $ file /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv
> /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv: ELF 32-bit LSB executable,
> Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs),
> for FreeBSD 4.5, stripped
> $  ldd /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv
> ldd: /usr/bin/ldd32: Exec format error

I ran into this exact error message when I upgraded one amd64 machine
from 8.0 to 8.1, and didn't read UPDATING close enough. Apparently
COMPAT_IA32 was renamed to COMPAT_FREEBSD32 (20100406), and the new
kernel I built lacked support for 32-bit binaries. UPDATING now says
(20100417) that COMPAT_IA32 is an alias for COMPAT_FREEBSD32, but it
could be something to double check in your case.

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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[Jerry]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700
David Brodbeck  articulated:

> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi
>  wrote:
> > A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license
> > printer manufacurers to build to it.   They _would_ obejct if
> > somebody used their technology to compete against them.
> >
> > B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS
> > O/S. if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a
> >   'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each-
> > non-MS system that has such a printer attached.
> 
> If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on
> Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you
> wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X.  In
> reality, such printers are pretty easy to find.

I just heard a rumor that FreeBSD is secretly in collusion with
Microsoft and the printer manufacturer's consortium to advance the usage
of printers on the Win32/64 platform. By refusing to create an
environment in which printers can use tested and certified drivers on a
non-windows operating system, they are secretly contributing to
Microsoft's continued domination in the PC market. Slash-Dot will
unequivocally be denying the accuracy of this story; however, we all are
aware that they are secretly being paid by the EC in an attempt to
diminish Microsoft's market share.

Unfortunately, I cannot substantiate these claims; however, as has been
demonstrated numerous times on this forum, documentation of subversive
acts is not a requirement. In fact, it might well be called
counter-productive.

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Re: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports

[vrwmiller]

Thanks, Adam. This is most helpful. I appreciate it.

On Sep 21, 2010 3:55pm, Adam Vande More  wrote:

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, vrwmil...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all,




I am performing PXE boots and automated installs of FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE  
with a custom sysinstall.cfg file which identifies packages that are to  
be installed in addition to the distributions. We have need to install  
compat6x-amd64 and I'd like to have this done during install.  
Unfortunately, it does not appear that this package exists in the FreeBSD  
media from which the install occurs. However, it is available through the  
ports collection.




You'll probably want to do something like this:



http://bsdbased.com/2010/03/23/freebsd-binary-package-repository-howto



FWIW, that's not the end all, be all to setting up your own package  
repository just a reasonably simple method.






What is the relationship between the packages directory on the media and  
the ports collection?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html



Packages associated with a RELEASE also ultimately come from the ports  
tree. However, those RELEASE packages come from a ports tree that was put  
into slush, then frozen. This means those packages had more testing and  
tweaking.




Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the  
packages directory of my own media?





Sure it's easy. When build a port you can issue a make package command,  
or you can use pkg_create to create packages from installed ported. A  
common approach to this is build all your updates in a jail, make  
packages of them, then delete package from the host and install the newly  
built ones from the jail. Very small, if any downtime. You can use the  
jail to create pkg's for a custom repository too.




http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg228757.html
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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[David Brodbeck]

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Peter A. Giessel  wrote:
> The question you are missing is *HOW* does MacOS X print to all these
> "cheap printers"?
>
> Lets take a couple of screen captures from Mac OS X.6 (Apple's latest
> released
> OS) with all current updates installed:
> http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers1.png
> http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers2.png
>
> Hmm, CUPS, and Gutenprint  Are these methods available for FreeBSD?

In some cases, yes.  In other cases, where the manufacturer is
supplying an OS X driver that doesn't come with CUPS/Gutenprint, the
additional driver bits may not be FreeBSD-compatible.

I may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS.  Yes, it's
complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much
less opaque.  Printers really are complicated, so having a GUI to help
set them up is nice.  I remember having to manually write and debug
filter scripts and edit /etc/printcap by hand, and I'm quite glad
those days are over.
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Re: printcap

[kline]

On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:57 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
> 
> > Can somebody point me to some information about what to write into 
> > /etc/printcap on a FreeBSD machine for a Laserjet that is connected though 
> > CUPS on an OpenSolaris server?
> 
> It's not clear how that printer is connected.  If it's on the network 
> itself, you should be able to send jobs directly to it.  If the printer 
> is connected by USB or something else to the server, CUPS might still 
> accept jobs from lpr.  (Untested, but it's a print server, after all.)
> 
> Network printing from printcap (among other things) is shown here:
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html
> 
> Well, and in the Handbook, too.

By Jove, this actually works... but from ethic, so far.  "ethic == ns1";
i wonder if this will
work on my "newtao" which is ubuntu.   FWIW, I AM having more trouble
transitioning 
after some N years since 2.0.5... .   
lp|b5250| Brother HL-5250-DN |
PSgs;r=1200x1200;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=:\
:sh:\
:mx#0:\
:rm=netlaser:\
:rp=raw:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

If _anybody_ onlist uses FreeBSD as their server and some version of
Linux elsewhere
**and** have a network-type printer, please clue me in.
((Exactly this reason--_printers_--has kept me from trying anything but
*BSD.))



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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[Dick Hoogendijk]

 On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote:

OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS.  Yes, it's
complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much
less opaque.


You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use 
it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. 
It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most 
FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it.

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Re: [squid-users] One slow Website Through Proxy

[Ed Flecko]

What about running a packet sniffer, like Wireshark, and looking at
the trace file?

Start a trace file before trying to access the web site, then took at
the "Delta time" (time between packets) and see where the delay is?

Ed
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Re: Intel video Driver

[Kevin Wilcox]

On 22 September 2010 13:16, jorge espada  wrote:

> I need my laptop to work..so I removed freebsd 8.1 and installed gentoo so I
> can't post the output of pciconf -lv, but I want freebsd...so if anyone
> knows how to sort this problem please share...

To resolve a combination dual-head, Nvidia, Virtualbox and 8GB ram
issue I had, I had to move to Gentoo and run FBSD in a VM for those
times I wanted to use FBSD for something.

It isn't the cleanest solution but it works for me, both under Gentoo
in the office, VMWare Fusion on the Macbook and Windows 7 at home.

kmw
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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[Matthew Seaman]

On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
>  On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote:
>> OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS.  Yes, it's
>> complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much
>> less opaque.
> 
> You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use
> it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way.
> It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most
> FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it.

CUPS is really nice *when it works*.  If you're lucky and have managed
to buy the right sort of printer hardware, and the Gods are smiling upon
you, then CUPS will serve you well.

On the other hand, when CUPS is bad, it is truly awful.  Excessively
hard to debug; impossible to fix without Guru-level powers.  One of
those "No user serviceable parts inside" sort of things.

CUPS works brilliantly when I plug my printer's USB cable directly into
my Mac.  But I've never yet managed to print to exactly the same printer
via CUPS when it is plugged into my FreeBSD server.

Cheers,

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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[Peter A. Giessel]

On 2010/09/22 at 9:27, g...@gull.us (David Brodbeck) wrote:


If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on
Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you
wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X.  In
reality, such printers are pretty easy to find.

Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple economics. ;)


The question you are missing is *HOW* does MacOS X print to all these
"cheap printers"?

Lets take a couple of screen captures from Mac OS X.6 (Apple's 
latest released

OS) with all current updates installed:
http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers1.png
http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers2.png

Hmm, CUPS, and Gutenprint  Are these methods available for FreeBSD?

Mainly what Apple did was pre-install and pre-configure in a user-friendly
way CUPS and Gutenprint.

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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:


El d?a Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 07:08:24AM -0600, Warren Block 
escribi?:


add:

Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"

to the Section "ServerLayout";


Please, no.

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html


Nice. But with HALD I could not manage sound to work in KDE :-(


But you don't need hal, you can build xorg-server without it or use 
Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" instead of AEI Off.  (No idea on what 
might cause hal/KDE sound interaction.)

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Re: compat4x broken in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE?

[Devin Teske]

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:56 -0700, Devin Teske wrote:
> You're missing "COMPAT_43" ... that seems serious and likely to be the
> cause of your "Exec format" error (below).

Heh, you don't get anymore *legacy* than that option. That option went
missing years ago (should remove that from our kernel configs).

It's actually exactly what CyberLeo Kitsans said...

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:39 -0500, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: 
> I ran into this exact error message when I upgraded one amd64 machine
> from 8.0 to 8.1, and didn't read UPDATING close enough. Apparently
> COMPAT_IA32 was renamed to COMPAT_FREEBSD32 (20100406), and the new
> kernel I built lacked support for 32-bit binaries. UPDATING now says
> (20100417) that COMPAT_IA32 is an alias for COMPAT_FREEBSD32, but it
> could be something to double check in your case.



> During the upgrade process, I think your kernel config lost something

COMPAT_FREEBSD32 which used to be COMPAT_IA32 (as CyberLeo quickly
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Re: migrate system disk

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, D?nielisz L?szl? wrote:


I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my
system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from
the old disk to the new one?


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK
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Re: compat4x broken in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE?

[Devin Teske]

On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 23:01 -0400, Steve Polyack wrote:
>   Is anyone else having issues using compat4x / running FreeBSD 4 
> binaries on 8.1-RELEASE?

At our shop, we're currently running 150+ 4.11-compiled i386 binaries on
FreeBSD-8.1 amd64. No problems found yet, but there were gotchas (keep
reading).


>   The requisite package is installed

I assume you're talking about the "compat4x" package (specifically
compat4x-i386-5.3_9).

You might interested to know that if you're trying to fully support 4.x
binaries on 8.1, you should also install the following package:

compat5x-amd64-5.4.0.8_11

We've noticed here in our shop that not all 4.x shared-libraries are
available in the compat4x package. To get all the shared-libraries that
we were linking against in 4.x, we also had to install the compat5x
package.

Specifically, we found these 4.x shared-libraries were missing from
compat4x (at minimum; I'm sure there is more but the below list
encompases the ones that we ourselves needed):

/usr/local/lib32/compat/libcam.so.2
/usr/local/lib32/compat/libsbuf.so.2
/usr/local/lib32/compat/libz.so.2


> $ grep -ir compat /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/PFSYNC-MFIB
> options COMPAT_43TTY# BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty)
> options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries
> options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
> options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5
> options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6
> options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7

Here's our list:

[dte...@oos0a /]$ config -x `sysctl -n kern.bootfile` | grep -i compat | grep 
-v '^#'
options COMPAT_43TTY# BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty)
options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5
options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6
options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7
device  pty # BSD-style compatibility pseudo ttys
device  ubsa# Belkin F5U103 and compatible serial adapters
options COMPAT_43   # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]

Hmmm

You're missing "COMPAT_43" ... that seems serious and likely to be the
cause of your "Exec format" error (below).

NOTE: I presume that the kernel config that you used does NOT include
"GENERIC" as all the COMPAT_* options that are in our kernel (shown
above) were actually there because we included the GENERIC config and
then used `nodevice'/`nooptions' to disable things we didn't like in
GENERIC and `device'/`options' to enable things that were missing from
GENERIC. I think that's a much safer route to go if you're not an
experienced kernel configurator.



> Interestingly enough, the compat4 libraries themselves don't seem to be 
> recognized:
> $ ldd /usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2
> ldd: /usr/bin/ldd32: Exec format error

Here it is on our system:

[dte...@oos0a /]$ uname -a
FreeBSD oos0a.vbsd.vicor.com 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Aug  6 
14:52:42 UTC 2010 
dte...@oos0a.vbsd.vicor.com:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/FIS-amd64  amd64

[dte...@oos0a /]$ ldd /usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2
/usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2:

Again, I think it's because your lack of "COMPAT_43" in your kernel.


> 
> Compat5x libraries do not appear to be affected:
> $ ldd /usr/local/lib/compat/libfetch.so.3
> /usr/local/lib/compat/libfetch.so.3:
>  libssl.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.3 (0x800c0)
>  libcrypto.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libcrypto.so.3 
> (0x800d3a000)

Same on our system.


> Has anyone else ran into this issue? I realize trying to use things 
> built for FreeBSD 4 may be like beating a dead horse at this point, I'm 
> just surprised that the compatibility was broken during a minor release 
> upgrade.

During the upgrade process, I think your kernel config lost something
(COMPAT_43).



> Thanks,
> 
> Steve Polyack
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Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA

[Gautham Ganapathy]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, b. f.  wrote:
>
> Okay.  Maybe we'll see a convergence of the two in the medium/long
> term.  Right now, interested parties need to look at the available
> hardware, and then talk to the vendors about whether they would be
> willing to support a port of their software to FreeBSD, and
> _specifically_, what is needed.  For example, we faced a similar
> situation with the newer Nvidia GPUs not so long ago.  Some key
> developers like John Baldwin got involved, and determined what changes
> needed to be made in the FreeBSD base system in order to support the
> newer hardware and graphics drivers.  It would have been nice to get
> an open-source driver, but since Nvidia wasn't willing to do that,
> FreeBSD  chose to meet them half-way.  Probably a similar effort will
> be needed for CUDA.  Someone should look at the requirements, and have
> a _detailed_, _sustained_ discussion with Nvidia and the FreeBSD
> Foundation.  If, for example, KMS is needed, then the Foundation may
> be willing to invest in that, because it will probably also be needed
> for new graphics drivers and Xorg, anyway.  Robert Noland was working
> on it, but he was doing it largely by himself in his spare time, and
> then he got a new job and had to slow down considerably, if not stop
> altogether.
> ...

Hi

I remember seeing a post sometime back (either here or on nvnews)
about someone getting a prebuilt linux-based CUDA application to work
freebsd's linuxulator. Does this mean that the driver is ready, and
just the toolchain has to be ported?

Regards
Gautham Ganapathy
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Re: migrate system disk

[David Kelly]

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:06:13AM -0700, D?nielisz L?szl? wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD
> stands as my system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate
> the FreeBSD 8.1 from the old disk to the new one?

If you must copy exactly what you currently have then I'd use a
variation on the handbook method which has already been suggested at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html

Rather than example 18-1 or 18-2 I'd pipe dump directly into restore. Do
this once for every filesystem. Something like:

( cd /; /sbin/dump -0uanf - / ) | ( cd /newmount; /sbin/restore -rf - )

Where /newmount is the temporary new mount point for your new drive.
Left preparation of new disk as an exercise for the reader.


However there is a good argument to be made for making a totally new
installation of FreeBSD. Then go through the original disk picking up
the necessary files to customize for your use. As you find these files
put their names in a file named something like files.list that in the
future one could "tar -T files.list" (thats an incomplete example) to do
a minimal quick backup or restore of only the files which are unique to
your machine. This is an opportunity to find these files, and to
practice using tar -T to lift them from one drive and write them to
another.

I wouldn't try to move the ports collection with the above technique.
However it would be a good idea to save a list of installed ports that
one could use to reinstall.

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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Scott Ballantyne]

Hello Brian,

> So if you return to the tty that you started X from (maybe by Alt-F1) and  
> hit Ctrl-C, that doesn't kill your X session? Reboot seems a bit drastic.

That's correct. It kills the X session, but the terminal remains dark,
and switches to 'lower power' mode. Using ctrl-alt-f1 or alt-f1
doesn't change the screen setting.

> I struggled with widescreen config for a while until I realized the Tao  
> solution was best - have you tried starting X without any  
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all?

Tao solution? I'm not sure what that is, but I have tried just typing
'startx' and also tried starting using xdm. Unfortunately everything
has the same result, which is a blank screen in power savermode :(

Thanks for your help.
Scott
 

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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Scott Ballantyne]

Hi Warren,

> Does the black screen show a mouse pointer?  No escape including 
> ctrl-alt-f1?

No mouse pointer, nothing. The X process will be shutdown with a
ctrl-c or ctrl-alt-delete, but the screen remains blank, in "power
saver" mode.

Nothing I do makes any difference on the monitor.

> 
> Try running X without an xorg.conf.
> 

I've done that, and it works just the same. I saw your other message
about HALD and read your interesting link, aei.html. I disabled the
HALD and DBUS, and rebooted, tried again, but with the same results.

Thanks so much,
Scott

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Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem

[patrick]

This happens for me if the password is entered incorrectly. I see it
happens right away for you, but what if you type:

cyradm -u username 192.168.134.171

?

Patrick


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Tim Kerr  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
>
>
> I have successfully used Cyrus IMAP in the past on versions 5.x, 6.x and 7.x
>
>
>
> but am having a problem with a fresh installed ver 8.0 server  when running
> the cyradm command
>
>
>
> I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the same result
> as follows
>
>
>
> root# cyradm 192.168.134.171
>
> Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)
>
> root#
>
>
>
>
>
> does anyone have any ideas as to what I should be looking at to fix this ?
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Tim Kerr
>
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Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem

[Tim Kerr]

thanks everyone for all your help

I applied the patch as suggested by Reko, but it seemed to make no difference

removing libgssapiv2 libs however, solved my cyradm problem

will this cause issues into the future for any other ports I may need ti
install ?

regards,
Tim

>> I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the
>> same result
>> as follows
>>
>> root# cyradm 192.168.134.171
>
> The main question is - do you need kerberos/gssapi authentication on
> your server or not?
>
> If not, the easy fix is removing libgssapiv2 libs from
> /usr/local/lib/sasl2
>
> For some reason, the gssapi implementation on FreeBSD 8+ is partial or
> broken and one way for more information and possible fix for gsspai
> see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/147454
>
> -Reko
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Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Scott Ballantyne wrote:


Does the black screen show a mouse pointer?  No escape including
ctrl-alt-f1?


No mouse pointer, nothing. The X process will be shutdown with a
ctrl-c or ctrl-alt-delete, but the screen remains blank, in "power
saver" mode.

Nothing I do makes any difference on the monitor.


It really sounds like a driver problem.  radeon doesn't explicitly 
support the 5000-series cards, but I thought it would work.  Check 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log.


You can try the radeonhd driver, or even the vesa driver.


I've done that, and it works just the same. I saw your other message
about HALD and read your interesting link, aei.html. I disabled the
HALD and DBUS, and rebooted, tried again, but with the same results.


Right.  It's probably not an input problem.
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Samba3

[Jeff Molofee]

 Need to get any variation of Samba 3 installed on a dedicated server. 
Using FreeBSD 6.X, get an error about buffer size being unknown and 
random errors on every version from 3.0 to 3.4. Anyone able to help me out?


Error is [smbd/statvfs.o] Error 1

Some people are saying it's a Samba issue, others are saying it's BSD 
6.x, and some even say it's autoconf 2.67


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Re: migrate system disk

[Edward]

> I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as 
> my 
> system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 
> from 
> the old disk to the new one?

I've used to do this a lot for server hardware migration, moving from 1
server to another new server. This blog post recorded what I tried & did :
http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2010/01/freebsd-backup-and-restore-freebsd.html

Check it out,
Edward.
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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

[Robert Bonomi]

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed Sep 22 12:25:37 2010
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700
> From: David Brodbeck 
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi  w=
> rote:
> > A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license printer
> > manufacurers to build to it. =A0 They _would_ obejct if somebody used
> > their technology to compete against them.
> >
> > B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS O/S.
> > =A0 if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a
> > =A0 'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each- non-MS
> > =A0 system that has such a printer attached.
>
> If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on
> Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you
> wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X.  In
> reality, such printers are pretty easy to find.

NICE STRAWMAN.  But that was -not- the point of the discussion that I
was addressing.  The QUESTION ASKED was 'why would Microsoft object if
somebody else implemented -their- printer-driver technology.  And the
answer to -that- question -is- found in 'simple economics' -- if somebody
did so, it would represent a 'potential loss' in MS operating system
sales.

The potential threat of MS taking issue (and possible legal action) against
someone who develops a usable 'windows clone' printing subsystem, is not
'in iteself' a 'deal breaker' that preents it from happening.  It is mrerely
"more nails" in the lid of the coffin.  Eliminate the other barriers and you
still have that one to worry about.  eliminate -only- it, and the coffin
lid is -still- nailed down.

MS knows better than to try to dictate what markets printer manufacturers
can build for.  if a manufacturer wants to develop for a _competing_ market
using _competing_ technology, "no problem".  If a manufacturer wanted to
develop for a competing (with oter microsoft produts -- i.e. were every 
sale of the 'competing' product is a potential 'lost sale' of a MS product)
market, *using*MICROSOFT's*tecnology,  the "big problem".  

NOTE WELL I did -not- claim there is any 'conspiracy'  on MS's part to
force printer manuracturers into only supporting window.  There isn't.

Printer manufacturers _chose_ to roll out devices that work only when
coupled with host-based software that they provie for Windows, and 
Windows *ONLY*.  They have, probably rightly, concluded that the -cost-
of providing drivers for other environments (or even the cost of 
making the specifications avaialable) is more than the profits that 
that (relatively speaking) small number of additional sales would 
bring in.  They build for their 'primary market', and if cost-minimization
for -that- market means that the device is 'unusable' in a niche market
that would bring in minimal revenues, they =don't=care=.  Regardless
of how 'inconvenient' it is for the users _in_ that niche 'market.

There's also another thing going on with regard to the low-end inkjet
printers.

What does it tell you when you can buy a _new_  printer, _with_ a set
of ink cartridge for roughly 50% more than the cost of a set of replacement
cartriges?  Hint, it's the same strategy that King Gilette used to sell 
safety razors.

The 'total cost of ownership' of an inkjet printer is _obscene_ when figured
on a per-page basis, with highly intermittant use. Used 'reglarly but lightly'
the cost of ownership is merely riciculously high. But the customers _don't_
tink about te purchases that way.  If the purchase price is rock bottom, "who
cares" about the 'operating cost' applies. unless they're using it regularly
enough that they see ink as an expence at least monthly.

"Guess why" printer manufactures now put 'smart chips' _in_ the cartridge so 
that when the page count has been reached, it _stops_working even if there 
are 'consumables' still in the package.  Aw, shucks, you can't _re-fill_
that cartridge with cheap ink. "Guess who" is crying all theway to the banke
over -that- little problem. 

Summary: the obstacles to developing a 'shim'/'wrapper' around a Windows
printer driver to allow te use of cheap 'Winprinters' in a Unix environment.

1) the 'appication side' interface it would  is incompatbile with  *every*
   existing Unix application that produces print output.

2) providing a lowlevel /'translator' to map between the output calls that
   existant print-producing packages usa and the windows environment 
   'expects'  is an enitre _additional_ undertaking that would have to be
   done.

3) (2) _cannot_ be done 'perfectly' there are concepts on the Unix side
   for which there are -no- windows equivalents.  And vice-versa.

4) WINDOWS applications are the only things that directly produce output
   'compatible' with this new printing system.
(a) absent the translator discueesed in (2), the a unix app ha

GUI Suggested?

[Jorge Biquez]

Hello all.

In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under 
terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved 
that way I have never tried any graphical interface.


I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience 
on what path to follow? KDE? any other?


I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if 
possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use 
it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc)


Thanks in advance

Jorge Biquez

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Re: GUI Suggested?

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jorge Biquez wrote:

I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what 
path to follow? KDE? any other?


The Handbook covers setting up the three major desktop environments in
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html.

You don't have to choose one of those, there are lots of varied window 
managers, and advocates for each.  There's an overview here on fd.o:

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops.  Many of those are in ports.

I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible 
that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop 
plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc)


Personally, I currently use xfce as "lighter" than the other members of 
the big three, while still offering the features I want.  But it really 
is very subjective.  For various purposes, I've used GNOME, KDE, icewm, 
fluxbox, blackbox, and others.  Ports make these all pretty easy to 
install.

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Re: GUI Suggested?

[Adam Vande More]

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell
> mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never
> tried any graphical interface.
>
> I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what
> path to follow? KDE? any other?
>
> I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible
> that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop
> plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc)
>

As stated before, it's really a personal matter.  I like kde4 a lot,
especially konsole and konqueror.  konsole seems to have a great blend of
features(monitor for activity, etc.) and integration with other KDE apps as
a snap-in.  Basically things like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCL_6YNgc8w make it a breeze to keep separate
groups for each item your working on.  Konqueror runs firefox plugins, and
supports the fish protocol which I occasionally find useful.  It's also
lighter and faster than KDE3.  It's pretty stable too, but not completely
so.  Once in awhile a KDE4 will get hung like krdc and I'll have to restart
rather than track down the issue.  I guess I reboot my desktop on average
once a month due to things like that so it's acceptable for me.

You can use the handbook method of installing KDE4(which is much, much
faster) or my method of installing:

http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-po...@freebsd.org/msg25856.html

Looking at my old post again, I notice I didn't include kde4 in the build.
That would be this:

portmaster --no-confirm -d /usr/ports/x11/kde4  #you make wish to add
--no-confirm to the other portmaster commands as it's behaviour has changed.

So it's not too hard to get it on your system.

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DHCP problem after upgrade

[N. Raghavendra]

I upgraded my system from 7.2-STABLE to 8.1-STABLE, and have done
`mergemaster'.  Earlier the system used to get its IP address by DHCP
at boot time without any problem.  After the upgrade, it is not doing
so.  I have ifconfig_em0="DHCP" in /etc/rc.conf.  After booting,
manually doing `/sbin/dhclient em0' works.  The dmesg is enclosed
below.  Any help is appreciated.

Thanks and regards,
Raghavendra.

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real memory  = 3221225472 (3072 MB)
avail memory = 3140222976 (2994 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, bfd9 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
cpu1:  on acpi0
cpu2:  on acpi0
cpu3:  on acpi0
acpi_hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on acpi0
device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12
acpi_button0:  on acpi0
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
vgapci0:  port 0xcf00-0xcf7f mem 
0xfa00-0xfaff,0xd000-0xdfff,0xf800-0xf9ff irq 16 at 
device 0.0 on pci1
em0:  port 0xff00-0xff1f mem 
0xfdfc-0xfdfd,0xfdfff000-0xfdff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
em0: Using MSI interrupt
em0: [FILTER]
em0: Ethernet address: 00:1d:09:99:b5:ee
uhci0:  port 0xfe00-0xfe1f irq 16 at device 
26.0 on pci0
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus0:  on uhci0
uhci1:  port 0xfd00-0xfd1f irq 21 at device 
26.1 on pci0
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus1:  on uhci1
uhci2:  port 0xfc00-0xfc1f irq 19 at device 
26.2 on pci0
uhci2: [ITHREAD]
uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus2:  on uhci2
ehci0:  mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff irq 
18 at device 26.7 on pci0
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usbus3: EHCI version 1.0
usbus3:  on ehci0
hdac0:  mem 
0xfdff4000-0xfdff7fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142
hdac0: [ITHREAD]
uhci3:  port 0xfb00-0xfb1f irq 23 at device 
29.0 on pci0
uhci3: [ITHREAD]
usbus4:  on uhci3
uhci4:  port 0xfa00-0xfa1f irq 19 at device 
29.1 on pci0
uhci4: [ITHREAD]
usbus5:  on uhci4
uhci5:  port 0xf900-0xf91f irq 18 at device 
29.2 on pci0
uhci5: [ITHREAD]
usbus6:  on uhci5
ehci1:  mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd3ff irq 
23 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci1: [ITHREAD]
usbus7: EHCI version 1.0
usbus7:  on ehci1
pcib2:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2:  on pcib2
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 
0xf800-0xf807,0xf700-0xf703,0xf600-0xf607,0xf500-0xf503,0xf400-0xf40f,0xf300-0xf30f
 irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
atapci0: [ITHREAD]
ata2:  on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3:  on atapci0
ata3: [ITHREAD]
pci0:  at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
atapci1:  port 
0xf100-0xf107,0xf000-0xf003,0xef00-0xef07,0xee00-0xee03,0xed00-0xed0f,0xec00-0xec0f
 irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0
atapci1: [ITHREAD]
ata4:  on atapci1
ata4: [ITHREAD]
ata5:  on atapci1
ata5: [ITHREAD]
acpi_tz0:  on acpi0
atrtc0:  port 0x70-0x73 on acpi0
fdc0:  port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FILTER]
pmtimer0 on isa0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
ppc0: parallel port not found.
est0:  on cpu0
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 927092706000927
device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
p4tcc0:  on cpu0
est1:  on cpu1
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 927092706000927
device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
p4tcc1:  on cpu1
est2:  on cpu2
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 9270

Re: migrate system disk

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:37:42AM +0800, Edward escribió:

> 
> > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands 
> > as my 
> > system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 
> > from 
> > the old disk to the new one?
> 
> I've used to do this a lot for server hardware migration, moving from 1
> server to another new server. This blog post recorded what I tried & did :
> http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2010/01/freebsd-backup-and-restore-freebsd.html

I did an similar aproach, moving a complete system by dump/restore to
another (virtual) hardware to get a 1:1 clone of my laptop. The steps
are documented in detail here:

http://www.unixarea.de/OS/moveFreeBSDintoVM.txt

HIH

matthias

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