[PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected

2012-05-28 Thread Martin Wilke
Hi,

Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the
reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of
unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago,
and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree.  

So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@
and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports.  

First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk.
Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove
www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213
to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely.
What do you think about this?

Thanks Martin

[1]
http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff

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Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-python@FreeBSD.org

2012-05-28 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
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  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker  Resp.  Description

f ports/168377 python [PATCH] devel/py-mongokit: update to 0.8
f ports/168376 python [PATCH] devel/py-celery update to 2.5.3
f ports/168372 python [PATCH] www/py-beautifulsoup: update to a new major ve
f ports/168363 python [PATCH] devel/py-greenlet: update to 0.3.4
o ports/168108 python [NEW PORT] devel/py-flake8
o ports/167569 python [PATCH] database/py-postgresql: new port version
f ports/167530 python [patch] security/py-fail2ban will never ever start wit
o ports/167484 python [maintainer update] update devel/py-pefile to version 
o ports/167126 python New port: www/py-fedex a SOAP wrapper for Fedex
o ports/166329 python [MAINTAINER UPDATE] update math/py-matplotlib to 1.1.0
f ports/165545 python [patch]: net-mgmt/collectd5 doesn't compile against la
o ports/165359 python lang/python27 fails to create package on world WITHOUT
o ports/163467 python Ports using python 2.7 and "waf" intermittently hang o
o ports/163112 python Updates bsd.python.mk to support Zope 2.11, 2.13
o ports/160717 python port: lang/python27 causing other ports to hang during
o ports/156759 python [patch] lang/python: kevent does not accept KQ_NOTE_EX
o ports/156425 python lang/python26: Needs to include -L/usr/local/lib/pth i
o ports/156076 python [patch] databases/py-sqlite3: Undefined symbol "sqlite
o ports/155970 python [PATCH] lang/python: speed up upgrade-site-packages
o ports/155936 python lang/python27 Pthread: previous declaration of ...
o ports/155526 python [PATCH] devel/py-elementtree: ignore if python >= 2.5
f ports/154209 python [PATCH] lang/python: Install symlink for ptags
o ports/153952 python lang/python26 + pth fails to reconfigure cflags to inc
o ports/153167 python Problem with signals, threads, and subprocesses in lan
o ports/152224 python [patch] fix installed permissions for lang/python27
o ports/151534 python lang/python26 + WITH_PTH doesn't install correctly
o ports/149167 python lang/python26 fails to build _ctypes on Sheevaplug (AR
o ports/146957 python Mk/bsd.python.mk: PYTHONOPTIMIZE=1 in environ(7) break
o ports/146823 python [patch] lang/python26: knob to build _ctypes module ag
o ports/146644 python lang/python26: WITH_PTH option breaks most ports depen
o ports/140968 python x11-toolkits/py-tkinter(devel/pth): py26-tkinter-2.6.4
o ports/136917 python [patch] lang/python26: gettext detection
o ports/133081 python [bsd.python.mk] PYEASYINSTALL_ARCHDEP=yes makes broken
s ports/118301 python [patch] devel/py-setuptools easy-install.pth contents 

34 problems total.

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Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected

2012-05-28 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov

Hi, Martin,

Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44:

Hi,

Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the
reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of
unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago,
and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree.


I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know FreeBSD 
committer that using old zope.

We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version:

net/honeyd (skreu...@freebsd.org)
www/zope   (esta...@augusta.de)
www/zope211 (esta...@augusta.de)

And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version:

www/google-appengine (ni...@freebsd.org)

I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both EOL. 
But I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or two. We have 
such a tradition.



So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@
and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports.

First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk.
Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove
www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213
to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely.
What do you think about this?

Thanks Martin

[1]
http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff



Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may look 
like this:


+if ${ZOPE_VERSION} == "2.13"
+ZOPE_PORTSDIR= ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope213
 .else

I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time.

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Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected

2012-05-28 Thread Li-Wen Hsu
Hi,

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov  wrote:
> Hi, Martin,
>
> Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the
>> reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of
>> unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago,
>> and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree.
>
> I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know FreeBSD
> committer that using old zope.

I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about setting
DEPRECATED thing.  I agree to set it as an official announcement, and we can
wait another month, I believe this is the final time of postpone.

> We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version:
>
> net/honeyd (skreu...@freebsd.org)
> www/zope   (esta...@augusta.de)
> www/zope211 (esta...@augusta.de)

miwi has written a mail to esta...@augusta.de, I am not sure about if
skreuzer (CC'd)
know this plan.

www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about net/honeyd?
can it work with newer Python?  I looked at the project site, it seems moved to
somewhere else.

> And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version:
>
> www/google-appengine (ni...@freebsd.org)

I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we?

> I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both EOL. But
> I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or two. We have such a
> tradition.

I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer
google-appengine
can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new
system, and
users have python25 apps deployed are not affected.  Is there anybody
still using
develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine?

>> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@
>> and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports.
>>
>> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk.
>> Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove
>> www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213
>> to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely.
>> What do you think about this?
>>
>> Thanks Martin
>>
>> [1]
>> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff
>
>
>
> Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may look like
> this:
>
> +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} == "2.13"
> +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=                 ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope213
>  .else

You are the Zope expert!

> I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time.

We do, too.  Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13?  BTW,
what's the status of
BlueBream?

Thanks,
Li-Wen

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Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected

2012-05-28 Thread Martin Wilke
On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800
Li-Wen Hsu  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
>  wrote:
> > Hi, Martin,
> >
> > Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree,
> >> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there
> >> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this
> >> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it
> >> from the ports tree.
> >
> > I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know
> > FreeBSD committer that using old zope.
> 
> I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about
> setting DEPRECATED thing.  I agree to set it as an official
> announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the
> final time of postpone.

Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this
time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine,
the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again

> 
> > We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version:
> >
> > net/honeyd (skreu...@freebsd.org)

I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port can
live without python 24

> > www/zope   (esta...@augusta.de)
> > www/zope211 (esta...@augusta.de)
> 
> miwi has written a mail to esta...@augusta.de, I am not sure about if
> skreuzer (CC'd)
> know this plan.
> 
> www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about
> net/honeyd? can it work with newer Python?  I looked at the project
> site, it seems moved to somewhere else.
> 
> > And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version:
> >
> > www/google-appengine (ni...@freebsd.org)
> 
> I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we?
> 
> > I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both
> > EOL. But I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or
> > two. We have such a tradition.
> 
> I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer
> google-appengine
> can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new
> system, and
> users have python25 apps deployed are not affected.  Is there anybody
> still using
> develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine?

+1 for py25 removal.. since is the same situation..

> 
> >> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by
> >> lwshu@ and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope
> >> ports.
> >>
> >> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the
> >> bsd.python.mk. Now I would like to know what you guys think if I
> >> were to remove www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to
> >> merge www/zope213 to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and
> >> www/zope213 completely. What do you think about this?
> >>
> >> Thanks Martin
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff
> >
> >
> >
> > Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may
> > look like this:
> >
> > +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} == "2.13"
> > +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=                 ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope213
> >  .else
> 
> You are the Zope expert!

Will fix the patch

> 
> > I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time.
> 
> We do, too.  Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13?  BTW,
> what's the status of
> BlueBream?
> 
> Thanks,
> Li-Wen
> 



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