Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-01 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Albert Shih (albert.s...@obspm.fr) wrote:

> Thanks for Dmitry for this ports. I'm going to keep this thing somewhere

No need to, if it works fine and there are no objections for it,
I'll commit it to the tree.

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Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-01 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Mark Linimon (lini...@lonesome.com) wrote:

> As a reminder, the last time this software was in the ports tree, the
> developer threatened us with a lawsuit.  This repeats what he has
> previously done to several other BSDs and several Linux distributions.
> This is why ports for his software are no longer available for these
> platforms.
>
> Whether the license has changed or not, the fact that the author feels
> the desire to use lawsuits to achieve his goals makes his software too
> much of a liability for FreeBSD to redistribute.

Well we can set RESTRICTED if that's a problem, then we will not be
distributing anything. I can mirror a distfile under my personal
responsibility.

Actually I think that the weirdnesses of an author should not be a
reason against using useful software or making it available for use
by other people, if there's no real legal threat. They may be a cause
for stagnation/death of a project, but that's another story.
As another argument, Debian and Ubuntu haven't ever removed packages
for ion3, just making a user agree with that the software may be
obsolete and unsupported. I believe they know what they're doing.

But I'll still mail ahze (who removed the port) and adamw (who
maintained it last).

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Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-01 Thread Erwin Lansing
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 03:14:17PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote:
> * Mark Linimon (lini...@lonesome.com) wrote:
> 
> > As a reminder, the last time this software was in the ports tree, the
> > developer threatened us with a lawsuit.  This repeats what he has
> > previously done to several other BSDs and several Linux distributions.
> > This is why ports for his software are no longer available for these
> > platforms.
> >
> > Whether the license has changed or not, the fact that the author feels
> > the desire to use lawsuits to achieve his goals makes his software too
> > much of a liability for FreeBSD to redistribute.
> 
> Well we can set RESTRICTED if that's a problem, then we will not be
> distributing anything. I can mirror a distfile under my personal
> responsibility.

The license forbids this software to be in the tree, so with my portmgr
hat on I ask you not to add this to the tree again.
> 
> Actually I think that the weirdnesses of an author should not be a
> reason against using useful software or making it available for use

Such is the legal system, and we are at the authors whim.

-erwin

> by other people, if there's no real legal threat. They may be a cause
> for stagnation/death of a project, but that's another story.
> As another argument, Debian and Ubuntu haven't ever removed packages
> for ion3, just making a user agree with that the software may be
> obsolete and unsupported. I believe they know what they're doing.
> 
> But I'll still mail ahze (who removed the port) and adamw (who
> maintained it last).
> 
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resurrecting ion3 port

2009-10-01 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
Hi!

The ion3 window manager was previously removed from the ports tree
becase of license issues. However, the clauses that causes this
were removed (see [1]), so I think we should add it back. I've
prepared updated version of the port ([2]), but I wanted to check
with you, since azhe was who removed the port and adamw maintained
it. Are there any objections against this port? adamw can also take
maintainership if he feels like so, or I'll maintain it myself.

[1] http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion-general/2009-September/002520.html
[2] http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar

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Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-01 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Erwin Lansing (er...@freebsd.org) wrote:

> The license forbids this software to be in the tree, so with my portmgr
> hat on I ask you not to add this to the tree again.

It no longer does:

http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion-general/2009-September/002520.html

Now it's LGPLv2.1 with the only restriction that this software may not
be significantly changed while being distributed as ion3. We do not
significantly change it, only paches affect the build system, they are
required to build (and are expected by the author judging by comments in
system.mk), and are not visible for a user.

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security/gnupg installing pth-2.0.7 causing problems

2009-10-01 Thread david
Hi

gnupg-2.0.13 depends on devel and installs it. This causes problems on a
7.2-p3 amd64 system. A number of ports fail to build due to conflicts
between pth and the standard system thread library.

For example x11-toolkits/py-qt4-gui build fails with pth-2.0.7 installed.
After deletion py-qt4-gui builds and installs correctly.

What is the best way to deal with this when security/gnupg is required?
Would it be possible for the gnupg to detect it is on an amd64 system and
adjust its dependencies accordingly? Should the problem also be dealt with
at source in the devel/pth port?

David



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Re: resurrecting ion3 port

2009-10-01 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:25:49 +0400
Dmitry Marakasov  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> The ion3 window manager was previously removed from the ports tree
> becase of license issues. However, the clauses that causes this
> were removed (see [1]), so I think we should add it back. I've
> prepared updated version of the port ([2]), but I wanted to check
> with you, since azhe was who removed the port and adamw maintained
> it. Are there any objections against this port? adamw can also take
> maintainership if he feels like so, or I'll maintain it myself.
> 
> [1] http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion-general/2009-September/002520.html
> [2] http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar
> 

Note: removed adamw@ and ahze@ from Cc - they don't don't need my help.

With the standard IANAL disclaimer, it looks to me like the point in the
Copyright where he clarifies what a significant change is, pretty much
lets us have this software in ports.  In particular this:

Basic changes that are needed to install or run the software on a target
platform, are insignificant.

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graphics/librsvg2 with mozilla build fails

2009-10-01 Thread david
Hi

If , when building libsvg2 on freebsd 7.2-p3 amd64, there is a compile
failure if the mozilla support option is selected. Without it the port
builds fine.

David

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Re: security/gnupg installing pth-2.0.7 causing problems

2009-10-01 Thread Dima Panov
On Thursday 01 October 2009 23:30:57 da...@vizion2000.net wrote:
> Hi
> 
> gnupg-2.0.13 depends on devel and installs it. This causes problems on a
> 7.2-p3 amd64 system. A number of ports fail to build due to conflicts
> between pth and the standard system thread library.
> 
> For example x11-toolkits/py-qt4-gui build fails with pth-2.0.7 installed.
> After deletion py-qt4-gui builds and installs correctly.

Something wrong with your system. Noone from KDE/FreeBSD team reports about 
such bugs.. 
For example, I have pth installed already for all my systems, and py-qt4 always 
build 
fine.

please show your /etc/make.conf and buildlog with errors.

> What is the best way to deal with this when security/gnupg is required?
> Would it be possible for the gnupg to detect it is on an amd64 system and
> adjust its dependencies accordingly? Should the problem also be dealt with
> at source in the devel/pth port?



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RE: security/gnupg installing pth-2.0.7 causing problems

2009-10-01 Thread David Southwell
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dima Panov [mailto:flu...@fluffy.khv.ru] 
> Sent: 01 October 2009 06:09
> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
> Cc: da...@vizion2000.net; r...@gnu.org; kuriy...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: security/gnupg installing pth-2.0.7 causing problems
> 
> On Thursday 01 October 2009 23:30:57 da...@vizion2000.net wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > gnupg-2.0.13 depends on devel and installs it. This causes 
> problems on 
> > a
> > 7.2-p3 amd64 system. A number of ports fail to build due to 
> conflicts 
> > between pth and the standard system thread library.
> > 
> > For example x11-toolkits/py-qt4-gui build fails with 
> pth-2.0.7 installed.
> > After deletion py-qt4-gui builds and installs correctly.
> 
> Something wrong with your system. Noone from KDE/FreeBSD team 
> reports about such bugs.. 
> For example, I have pth installed already for all my systems, 
> and py-qt4 always build fine.
> 
> please show your /etc/make.conf and buildlog with errors.
> 
> > What is the best way to deal with this when security/gnupg 
> is required?
> > Would it be possible for the gnupg to detect it is on an 
> amd64 system 
> > and adjust its dependencies accordingly? Should the problem also be 
> > dealt with at source in the devel/pth port?
> 
> 
> 
Are you testing on a multi processor system intel quad with a generic amd64
build?

david


> 

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Re: new version of syck library

2009-10-01 Thread Alexander Logvinov
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Hello!

On 01.10.2009 04:32 Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
> I am the maintainer of syck-library these days.
> I noticed, that freebsd-port doesn't have maintainer, but this address
> is mentioned instead.
> I just released new version of library which incorporates all changes
> gathered during last 3 years, including proper 64-bit compatibility.
> Release is hosted at github: http://github.com/indeyets/syck/downloads
> API is compatible with 0.55
 I'll take a look.

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[Fwd: portupgrade failure xcb-util failure]

2009-10-01 Thread John B. Stubblebine

Ports at FreeBSD.org:

I should have sent this also to you - it seems like it bounced from 



Thanks in advance for any help you can provide...

John Stubblebine
js...@jstub.com


 Original Message 
Subject:portupgrade failure xcb-util failure
Date:   Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:58:26 -0700
From:   John B Stubblebine 
Reply-To:   John Stubblebine 
Organization:   jstub Family
To: FreeBSD xcb-util Maintainer 
CC: js...@jstub.com



To:  xcb-util Maintainer:

The entire output of my session attempting to portupgrade xcb-util 
follows.  It failed, and asked me to inform you.


I have also attached both the listing of pkg_info and "ls /var/db/pkg" 
as well as the config.log file from this portupgrade failure.


If you need any other information, please ask!

Thank you.

John Stubblebine
js...@jstub.com

 Session output:  *

[r...@pcbsd]/usr/ports(26)# portupgrade -P -R -y 
xcb-util  
--->  Session started at: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:14:13 
-0700  
[Gathering depends for x11/xcb-util ... 
done]  
[Exclude up-to-date packages .. 
done]  
--->  Checking for the latest package of 
'x11/xcb-util'
--->  Fetching the package(s) for 'xcb-util-0.3.6' 
(x11/xcb-util)  
--->  Fetching 
xcb-util-0.3.6  
++ Will try the following sites in the order 
named:
   
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/
--->  Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o 
'/var/tmp/portupgrade70jsMQjE/xcb-util-0.3.6.tbz' 
'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/xcb-util-0.3.6.tbz'

fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/xcb-util-0.3.6.tbz: 
No address record 
** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 
1  
** Failed to fetch 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/xcb-util-0.3.6.tbz 

--->  Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o 
'/var/tmp/portupgrade70jsMQjE/xcb-util-0.3.6.tgz' 
'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/xcb-util-0.3.6.tgz'

fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/xcb-util-0.3.6.tgz: 
No address record 
** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 
1  
** Failed to fetch 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.orgpub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/xcb-util-0.3.6.tgz 

** Failed to fetch 
xcb-util-0.3.6  
--->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / 
!:failed)  
   ! xcb-util-0.3.6(fetch 
error)  
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 
failed
** Could not find the latest version 
(0.3.6)   
--->  Using the port instead of a 
package  
--->  Upgrade of x11/xcb-util started at: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:14:29 
-0700  
--->  Upgrading 'xcb-util-0.3.5' to 'xcb-util-0.3.6' 
(x11/xcb-util)
--->  Build of x11/xcb-util started at: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:14:29 
-0700
--->  Building 
'/usr/ports/x11/xcb-util'   
===>  Cleaning for 
gperf-3.0.3 
===>  Cleaning for 
xcb-util-0.3.6  
===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not 

found 
===>  Extracting for 
xcb-util-0.3.6
=> MD5 Checksum OK for 
xcb-util-0.3.6.tar.bz2. 
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for 
xcb-util-0.3.6.tar.bz2.  
===>  Patching for 
xcb-util-0.3.6  
===>   xcb-util-0.3.6 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/gperf - 
found
===>   xcb-util-0.3.6 depends on executable: gmake - 
found 
===>   xcb-util-0.3.6 depends on file: 
/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xau.pc - 
found  

===>   xcb-util-0.3.6 depends on file: 
/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xdmcp.pc - 
found

===>   xcb-util-0.3.6 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - 
found 
===>   xcb-util-0.3.6 depends on shared library: xcb.2 - 
found 
===>  Configuring for 
xcb-util-0.3.6   

Re: resurrecting ion3 port

2009-10-01 Thread Adam Weinberger
Thanks, Dmitry, but I'd rather not maintain any other ports at this
time. I think resurrecting ionwm is a great idea, btw.

# Adam


2009/10/1 Dmitry Marakasov :
> Hi!
>
> The ion3 window manager was previously removed from the ports tree
> becase of license issues. However, the clauses that causes this
> were removed (see [1]), so I think we should add it back. I've
> prepared updated version of the port ([2]), but I wanted to check
> with you, since azhe was who removed the port and adamw maintained
> it. Are there any objections against this port? adamw can also take
> maintainership if he feels like so, or I'll maintain it myself.
>
> [1] http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion-general/2009-September/002520.html
> [2] http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ion3.tar
>
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Re: Tinderbox + perl5.10?

2009-10-01 Thread Alexey Shuvaev
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:27:50PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:46:06 +0200
> Alexey Shuvaev  wrote:
> 
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > After about one month of playing with ports-mgmt/tinderbox (thanks to
> > all for the tool!) I realized I've applied the following in order to
> > get it working in my environment (amd64 9-CURRENT with perl5.10):
> > 
> > --- tc_command.sh.orig  2009-09-28 21:35:34.0 +0200
> > +++ tc_command.sh   2009-09-28 21:35:43.0 +0200
> > @@ -190,7 +190,7 @@
> >  
> > #---
> >  
> >  Setup () {
> > -MAN_PREREQS="lang/perl5.8"
> > +MAN_PREREQS="lang/perl5.10"
> >  OPT_PREREQS="lang/php[45] databases/pear-DB www/php[45]-session"
> >  PREF_FILES="tinderbox.ph"
> >  README="$(tinderLoc scripts README)"
> > 
> > I'm not very good at shell patters. Is there any way to depend on
> > perl5.8 or perl5.10?
> > BTW, this issue is seen only on fresh installations.
> 
> It should be already fixed in the port, I think I did that.
> If not, it's fixed in marcus' CVS
> 
FYI, it is indeed fixed in marcus' CVS 2 months ago, but it is not
in the ports yet (neither tinderbox nor tinderbox-devel).

Thanks,
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Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 03:45:46PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote:
> Now it's LGPLv2.1 with the only restriction that this software may not
> be significantly changed while being distributed as ion3.

I hate to replay this whole issue from the beginning, but apparently there
is no other way.

The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were
not in compliance with the 28-day clause.  A long, acrimonious disucssion
ensued.  In that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to meet
that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remove
any further legal threat?" and he said yes ...

for now.

But that he reserved the right to change his mind later.

*depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in
adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or
"renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any
lawsuit.

Legally indefensible?  Of course.  Would that prevent a lawsuit being
filed?  No.  Anyone can sue anyone for anything.

Summary:

What you see as "keeping a useful piece of software out of the port
collection", I see as "protect the interests of a project that I have
put a great deal of interest in time to."

Again, I *emphasize* that this author has changed his mind in the past,
mid-debate, on the interpretation of his ... unusual ... license.  I
also believe that it's quite likely going forward.

mcl
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Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 02:58:23PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote:
> No need to, if it works fine and there are no objections for it,
> I'll commit it to the tree.

I insist that you not to commit it to the tree.  See my other post.

mcl
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Re: resurrecting ion3 port

2009-10-01 Thread Mark Linimon
Please see my other post about this port.  Thanks.

mcl
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