Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Fbsd8 wrote:
> To all interested parties;
>
> I have completed the final draft of the total rewrite of FreeBSD's
> handbook Chapter 16 on Jails.
>
> Before submitting my work for submission to the documentation group for
> insertion in the handbook I am looking for critique of the work to find
> errors in concept, wrong use of words, or anything to make it better.
>
> All feedback welcomed. Please email me directly so we keep the noise
down on the mailing list.
>
> Use this URL to access it http://www.jails.a1poweruser.com/
>
>
> Thank You.
Hi. Has the documentation team approved any of this already? I've noticed
a few mistakes ("Then about RELEASE 5.4," "from malice actions on a Local
Are Network," spelling/grammar mistakes, many others) so I'm assuming not.
I also see you're pushing the sysutils/qjail port for users who don't want
to configure things themselves. In my experience, ezjail is a much better
solution. I also see that you are the maintainer/author of qjail and like
to shovel your opinion as the only solution, both in this "rewrite" and
all over the FreeBSD forums.
Do we even need an updated version? I trust the documentation team to
write one much more than a biased port maintainer with a poor grasp of
English. It's not my native language either, but this needs some serious
work.
>Please email me directly so we keep the noise down on the mailing list.
This is funny.
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Re: Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique
>"Fbsd8" wrote: > This is my first public exposure. The Doc gang is seeing it for the > first time just like you. Gotcha. >> I also see you're pushing the sysutils/qjail port for users who don't >> want >> to configure things themselves. In my experience, ezjail is a much >> better >> solution. I also see that you are the maintainer/author of qjail and >> like >> to shovel your opinion as the only solution, both in this "rewrite" and >> all over the FreeBSD forums. > > Maybe if you gave qjail a try you would have a different opinion of it. > Every ezjail user who tries qjail stays with qjail. Maybe if you have > read the online version of the handbook jail chapter you would see the > doc team has no problem with recommending qjail. The Ports section of the handbook mentions portmaster, portupgrade and maybe even some others. If you include more options than only the one you care about, maybe it could work. I have tried qjail, as have others I know. I'm just saying ezjail has been a lot better for my use case at a webhosting company, where we run many jails per server. You can say "everyone who tries it stays with it" but there's nothing backing that up... at all. I think the userbase is about as inflated as your ego as the author. I don't recommend things based on their author's views (else I wouldn't run OpenBSD firewalls :)) but the constant pushing of qjail as the way and the true light you do really turns me off from it. >> Do we even need an updated version? I trust the documentation team to >> write one much more than a biased port maintainer with a poor grasp of >> English. > You must be making a joke to think what is in the handbook jail chapter > don't need to be redone. It may need some additions with the recent improvements, but I doubt it needs a complete rewrite. > It's not my native language either, but this needs some serious >> work. > > Hay dud you going into the un-professional area with comments like that. > The FreeBSD team has very high standards for the handbook and documentation in general. You're going into "the unprofessional area" by submitting poorly-written documentation to the project and sending your replies off-list. >>> Please email me directly so we keep the noise down on the mailing list. >> >> This is funny. >> > The only thing funny is your post. > Be constructive or I will ignore you. It's only constructive if people agree with you, right? ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Boy this simple critique request sure has gotten out of hand. So lets set the record straight. You got exactly what you asked for. > On the subject ezjail not being referenced in the document like it is in the current version of the online handbook is just a writing content error. With all the spam you've put on the forums and mailing list(s) about qjail, I wonder how true it is that you just "whoops, forgot to mention ezjail" in your propaganda rewrite. > When it comes to the question of the handbook jail chapter needing > updating, A member of the document team has already offered to partner up > with me to get it added to the handbook as fast as possible. The documentation team will never accept such poorly-written stuff that's laced with "use qjail use qjail use qjail - it's the only way!" I'll believe it when I see it. > On the subject of qjail being a fork of ezjail, of course it is. Forks don't completely overwrite the copyright of a project and claim it as their own, while just changing variable names and renaming the tool something else. This is not a fork, it's a complete rip-off that gives no credit to the original author (who did MUCH more of the work). > Qjail was developed by the qjail project team No it wasn't. It was developed by the ezjail author, and you just made small changes and called it your own. >Our British member concluded that the author of ezjail must be British based solely on the spelling of the flavour directory. He also convinced us that his Beerware license was British humor, a joke, and should not be taken serous. I think the GPL is a joke, but people still take it seriously. You can't just decide a license should be completely ignored. >I was chosen the project leader and public voice only because my English was the best among us. It gives me a headache trying to read some of the stuff you write. You've got an American guy and a British guy and neither of their native English is better than yours? ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
