qjail or qjail2?
Which qjail should I use, qjail 4.7 or qjail2 2.2? Does the qjail project have any documentation apart from http://qjail.sourceforge.net/? Grzegorz ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
Hi! > Which qjail should I use, qjail 4.7 or qjail2 2.2? Does the qjail > project have any documentation apart from http://qjail.sourceforge.net/? qjail, as qjail2 is a non-longer updated version of qjail, as far as I understand. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 4 years to go ! ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
On 12/06/2016 13:07, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Which qjail should I use, qjail 4.7 or qjail2 2.2? Does the qjail project have any documentation apart from http://qjail.sourceforge.net/? qjail, as qjail2 is a non-longer updated version of qjail, as far as I understand. Both have some recent changes in their respective SVN branches: https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/qjail https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/qjail2 And both don't seem to have received too many updates recently. ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 12/06/2016 13:07, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Which qjail should I use, qjail 4.7 or qjail2 2.2? Does the qjail project have any documentation apart from http://qjail.sourceforge.net/? qjail, as qjail2 is a non-longer updated version of qjail, as far as I understand. Both have some recent changes in their respective SVN branches: https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/qjail https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/qjail2 And both don't seem to have received too many updates recently. For your info www.freshports.org is really not the official place to inquire about freebsd ports. The content of your post shows you got incorrect info. If you had read the SVN "long description" of qjail2 you will see this "This is the last version that handles both the 8.x and 9.x install media formats." Thats why it has no updates. Its just a version of qjail that has been frozen in time to support the old format of install media for freebsd versions that reach EOL in December this year. https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail2/pkg-descr?revision=HEAD The "long description" of qjail says this "This qjail version is not intended for RELEASES older than RELEASE-10.0." https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/pkg-descr?revision=HEAD And if you check the qjail change log you will see qjail does indeed have resent updates. https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/?view=log So to answer your original question. The documentation is installed with qjail when qjail is installed. As far as to what version to install is totally dependent on which version of Freebsd your running on your host. For 9.3 and older use qjail2. For 10.0 and newer use qjail. The SVN "long description" is real clear about that. ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
On 12/06/2016 15:44, Ernie Luzar wrote: Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 12/06/2016 13:07, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Which qjail should I use, qjail 4.7 or qjail2 2.2? Does the qjail project have any documentation apart from http://qjail.sourceforge.net/? qjail, as qjail2 is a non-longer updated version of qjail, as far as I understand. Both have some recent changes in their respective SVN branches: https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/qjail https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/qjail2 And both don't seem to have received too many updates recently. For your info www.freshports.org is really not the official place to inquire about freebsd ports. The content of your post shows you got incorrect info. If you had read the SVN "long description" of qjail2 you will see this "This is the last version that handles both the 8.x and 9.x install media formats." Thats why it has no updates. Its just a version of qjail that has been frozen in time to support the old format of install media for freebsd versions that reach EOL in December this year. https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail2/pkg-descr?revision=HEAD The "long description" of qjail says this "This qjail version is not intended for RELEASES older than RELEASE-10.0." https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/pkg-descr?revision=HEAD And if you check the qjail change log you will see qjail does indeed have resent updates. https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/?view=log So to answer your original question. The documentation is installed with qjail when qjail is installed. As far as to what version to install is totally dependent on which version of Freebsd your running on your host. For 9.3 and older use qjail2. For 10.0 and newer use qjail. The SVN "long description" is real clear about that. Sorry, but I will have to disagree with "The SVN 'long description' is real clear about that.". If it was real clear then I wouldn't bother asking on this list and taking your time and others. BTW the svnweb links you posted show exactly the same messages as freshports, and I didn't say that qjail doesn't have recent updates. I said that both of them have been updated recently. I read the note "This is the last version that handles both the 8.x and 9.x install media formats." but apparently understood it differently than intended. First of all, I don't know what is a media format, especially 8.x and 9.x media format. Since I don't use one my take on that was that it's not applicable to me. Since that version of qjail supports something that I don't care about, I just look at the remaining of the message, which is the same for both versions, hence the confusion. I also read the note for qjail that it "is not intended for RELEASES older than RELEASE-10.0.", which is fine since I run release 10.3. So here you go, there is qjail2 that supports some exotic media format, and qjail that supports FreeBSD RELEASE-10.0 and newer. How should I go about deciding which one to use? It would certainly help if: - the version of qjail supporting legacy systems was named qjail0 rather than qjail2 - or the version of qjail supporting FreeBSD RELEASE-10.0 was named qjail3 (or qjail4 since 4 is its minor revision now) - or/and the message for qjail2 simply stated: "This version supports FreeBSD RELEASE 8.x and 9.x. For RELEASE 10.0 and newer use qjail." Many thanks for the clarification. Grzegorz ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
Hi! > It would certainly help if: > - the version of qjail supporting legacy systems was named qjail0 > rather than qjail2 That ship probably has sailed. > - or the version of qjail supporting FreeBSD RELEASE-10.0 was named > qjail3 (or qjail4 since 4 is its minor revision now) > - or/and the message for qjail2 simply stated: > > "This version supports FreeBSD RELEASE 8.x and 9.x. For RELEASE 10.0 and > newer use qjail." Would you please submit a PR that makes this change to pkg-descr or such ? If maintainer agrees, this would clarify it for future generations to come 8-} -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 4 years to go ! ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
On 12/06/2016 16:39, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! It would certainly help if: - the version of qjail supporting legacy systems was named qjail0 rather than qjail2 That ship probably has sailed. - or the version of qjail supporting FreeBSD RELEASE-10.0 was named qjail3 (or qjail4 since 4 is its minor revision now) - or/and the message for qjail2 simply stated: "This version supports FreeBSD RELEASE 8.x and 9.x. For RELEASE 10.0 and newer use qjail." Would you please submit a PR that makes this change to pkg-descr or such ? If maintainer agrees, this would clarify it for future generations to come 8-} I am not sure how to make a patch, but the change should be small enough to handle manually: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=210238 ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: qjail or qjail2?
Hi! > > If maintainer agrees, this would clarify it for future generations to come > > 8-} > I am not sure how to make a patch, but the change should be small enough > to handle manually: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=210238 Thanks. qjail2 has no maintainer, so I just added it. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 4 years to go ! ___ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
