Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle
Igor Mozolevsky writes:
> > Wouldn't this discourage even more people from helping?
>
> Would this not separate people who have a genuine interest in
> contributing from "tinker-monkeys"?
Did I miss a previous definition of "tinker-monkey"?
Robert Huff
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Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle
Doug Barton writes: > > That would suggest that the end users don't really lose on features by > > delaying the new releases, since those features typically aren't ready > > anyway. > > I think "typically" is stretching it a bit here. As humans we > tend to focus our attention on the things that cause us problems, > rather than acknowledging (or even being aware of) the things > that are working well in the background. Also: how many (non-ports) developers out there remember bugs (including performance issues) that weren't triggered until the code went live? One can argue it shouldn't happen ... but it does. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)
Jonathan McKeown writes:
> No. I think this is entirely the wrong way round. If the new
> feature is created and you want it, turn it on.
Commonly known as "opt in".
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Re: Comments on pmake diffs for building on Linux
Tom Evans writes:
> > Yup. The proof will be in the pudding, as they say.
>
> The proof of the pudding is in the eating, actually. There's no proof
> actually in the pudding.
>
>
Add some brandy, or maybe rum :-)
Makes the coding more fun. Maybe not faster or more accurate,
but more fun.
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RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)
Sean Cavanaugh writes:
> AMD is actively working to opensource the *nic drivers for the
> ATI cards starting with the most recent. From a news article iI
> came across they were actually hiring a whole new department
> whose sole purpose was to add more of the older cards to the open
> sorce drivers as well as eventually having 3d acceleration. As
> for the NEW 4000 series, the card will come with full drivers for
> windows and Linux on the install CD. granted there is still some
> coding to get BSD drivers, but AMD is making life better for *nix
> user with ATI cards.
Is there any place (web site, wiki, blog) where the public can
track this effort?
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Re: I want to participate in some FreeBSD project
Alexander Leidinger writes:
> In the OSS world people to not get included (getting invited),
> they more attach themself to something (seeing a warm welcome
> when providing help).
For someone who wants to get up to speed while still making a
contributrion, consider updating documentation. While the docs are
ganarally good, there are a number of places (including the FAQ and
the Handbook) where material is out-of-date or just poorly worded.
If you speak a foreign language, there may be a localization
effort with which you can help.
Robert Huff
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regenerating /var/db/pkg
Aryeh M. Friedman writes:
> I acciddentally rm'ed my /var/db/pkg and want to know is it
> possible to rgenerate it (I have portmaster and portupgrade
> installed)
(I'm assuming you have _completely_ deleted the contents of
/var/db/pkg.)
If you have not deleted /usr/ports/distfiles, this will give
you a starting place. Mind you, some of the distfile names bear
scant relation to the port names ... but they're usually not that
hard to track down.
The advice to "start with a big one" - OpenOffice, KDE, etc. -
is also sound.
Robert Huff
(who used this method
successfully a couple of years ago)
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Re: Kernel config script
Chris D. Faulhaber writes:
> I somewhat agree. A custom kernel is useful for setting up and
> tuning parameters (e.g. softupdates); however, unlike Linux, we
> don't have a new kernel every week to reconfigure.
How often _do_ people rebuild their kernels? (On non-testing
machines.)
I rebuild/reinstall every two weeks, plus or minus a day or
two.
(And, for the record, I notice a non-trivial speed jump going
from a generic to a custom kernel.)
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Re: My wish list for 6.1
Arne Schwabe writes: > > The "emulation" or whatever it was was set in the BIOS. And it worked > > in the BIOS. Worked when the OS got up to sysinstall, too. Just > > wouldn't work for the loader. Luckily, I didn't need to do anything > > but wait for it to boot, but I figured the BIOS was laughing at me > > behind my back... > > Same here with an ASUS A8V Deluxe. I have a similar problem with an ASUS P4 and possibly a P3. However, I have been told (it's in the archives) this may be a known problem with the BIOS/ASUS firmware, Robert Huff ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Quality?
Sam Leffler writes:
> OTOH we've done nothing with user application code and based on
> the work I've seen done by netbsd there's plenty of stuff to be
> fixed there.
When you say "user application code", is this an alias for
ports or do you mean non-ported applications?
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Re: FreeBSD Kernel Quality?
Scott Long writes:
> >When you say "user application code", is this an alias for
> > ports or do you mean non-ported applications?
>
> "user application code" == code not in src/sys/... That means
> src/lib, src/bin, src/sbin, src/usr.bin, etc.
Got it.
Thanks.
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Re: USB -> PS/2
Walter C. Pelissero writes: > Ok, today I spent some time deciphering the ums log and came up > with this patch. deletia > Unfortunately my knowledge (or rather lack of it) of the USB/UMS > driver doesn't give me very much confidence that I didn't break > something else. > > What was that conditional return suposed to protect from? > Is it safe to remove it? The accepted way of finding out would be to do a send-pr to bring it to the formal attention of the usual suspects. (I can't seem to find an appropriate item - anyone got suggestions?) Robert Huff ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: updating packages automatically, etc.pp.
Kris Kennaway writes: > > The script relies on you having an up-to-date INDEX file; do "make > > index" first to be sure (which reminds me, why is the INDEX file > > always out of sync after a cvsup?). It only tries to upgrade ports > > Because it's only generated periodically, not every time someone > adds or modifies a port, which would be very wasteful. How often is periodically? While I read the output of my CVSup sessions, it had been my impression that INDEX was an accurate (+/- epsilon) snapshot of the ports tree. Are you telling me it could be, oh, two or three weeks out of date ...? Robert Huff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
