Re: About building release for using sysinstall

2012-03-07 Thread egoitz

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:13:56 +0100, ego...@ramattack.net wrote:

Sorry but, perhaps should I write this another FreeBSD mailing
list?... perhaps this one, it's not it's place... if this can be the
situation, please tell me which mailing list to send to this
suggestion.

Thanks a lot for you're time,
Best regards.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:22:25 +0100, ego...@ramattack.net wrote:

Good morning,

I have launched :


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Finally have been able to build a RELENG_9_0 release with isos, 
sysinstall and livefs disc with the following changes applied :


generarelease90# pwd
/usr/src/release/amd64
generarelease90# cvs diff -r 1.14.2.1.2.1 -r 1.14.2.1.2.2 
mkisoimages.sh

Index: mkisoimages.sh
===
RCS file: /expert/ncvs/src/release/amd64/mkisoimages.sh,v
retrieving revision 1.14.2.1.2.1
retrieving revision 1.14.2.1.2.2
diff -r1.14.2.1.2.1 -r1.14.2.1.2.2
7c7
< # $FreeBSD: src/release/amd64/mkisoimages.sh,v 1.14.2.1.2.1 
2011/11/11 04:20:22 kensmith Exp $

---
# $FreeBSD: src/release/amd64/mkisoimages.sh,v 1.14.2.1.2.2 
2012/03/06 08:27:38 portero Exp $

42d41
< echo "/dev/iso9660/`echo $LABEL | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]'` / 
cd9660 ro 0 0" > $1/etc/fstab

44d42
< rm $1/etc/fstab
generarelease90# cd ..
generarelease90# cvs diff -r 1.5.2.1.2.2 -r 1.5.2.1.2.3 
Makefile.sysinstall

Index: Makefile.sysinstall
===
RCS file: /expert/ncvs/src/release/Attic/Makefile.sysinstall,v
retrieving revision 1.5.2.1.2.2
retrieving revision 1.5.2.1.2.3
diff -r1.5.2.1.2.2 -r1.5.2.1.2.3
1c1
< # $FreeBSD: src/release/Makefile.sysinstall,v 1.5.2.1.2.2 2012/01/02 
04:11:22 kensmith Exp $

---
# $FreeBSD: src/release/Makefile.sysinstall,v 1.5.2.1.2.3 2012/03/06 
08:26:49 portero Exp $

1152,1155d1151
<@sh ${.CURDIR}/${TARGET}/mkisoimages.sh \


Re: Graphical Terminal Environment

2012-03-07 Thread Brandon Falk
On 3/7/2012 2:06 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:

> If you're looking for something minimal, vector support should be one of the
> first things to go. At small sizes (in terms of dots), the best fonts are all
> bitmaps, rather than vector descriptions. One of the features of TrueType and
> Postscript is that a vendor can provide hand-tweaked bitmap glyphs for small
> sizes of a vector font. Likewise the VT100 demonstrated that you don't need
> vector line drawing to draw boxes. Some points to keep in mind: Anything
> beyond what is supported in your VESA BIOS requires custom support for your
> specific video chip. This is part of the code in x11-drivers/xf86-video-*. LCD
> monitors look fairly poor unless driven at their native resolution so, unless
> your VESA BIOS provide a mode that suits your monitor, you will need custom
> driver code. 

I do plan on writing a small little driver for NVIDIA cards (it's what I have).
I'm assuming it can't be terribly hard to detect the monitor's resolution, set
to that resolution, then start displaying dots... you never know though... I'll
be having a fun time with nouveau for the next few weeks :)

-Brandon
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Re: Graphical Terminal Environment

2012-03-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2012-Mar-06 14:08:51 -0500, Brandon Falk  wrote:
>When I mention lines, circles, etc I was thinking moreso at the very low level
>of fonts being drawn by lines and dots (although I would like to branch it
>eventually to support 2d graphics where people could maybe make some 2d games,
>but keep the high-res terminal on the side to keep it minimal). I also may want
>to draw some lines to border terminal windows (screen would eliminate this
>obviously).

If you're looking for something minimal, vector support should be one
of the first things to go.  At small sizes (in terms of dots), the
best fonts are all bitmaps, rather than vector descriptions.  One of
the features of TrueType and Postscript is that a vendor can provide
hand-tweaked bitmap glyphs for small sizes of a vector font.  Likewise
the VT100 demonstrated that you don't need vector line drawing to
draw boxes.

Some points to keep in mind:

Anything beyond what is supported in your VESA BIOS requires custom
support for your specific video chip.  This is part of the code in
x11-drivers/xf86-video-*.

LCD monitors look fairly poor unless driven at their native resolution
so, unless your VESA BIOS provide a mode that suits your monitor, you
will need custom driver code.

-- 
Peter Jeremy


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USENIX TaPP '12 Call for Papers Submission Deadline Approaching

2012-03-07 Thread Lionel Garth Jones
We're writing to remind that the deadline for the 4th USENIX Workshop on
the Theory and Practice of Provenance (TaPP '12) is approaching. Please
submit your work by Saturday, March 31, 2012, at 5:00 p.m. EDT.
http://www.usenix.org/tapp12/cfpb

The Program Committee seeks short papers and vision papers describing
challenges for provenance research, brief descriptions of new
applications, proposals for mini-tutorials, pie-in-the sky research
ideas, and anything that will create a successful workshop.

TaPP '12 will bring together researchers and practitioners doing
innovative work in the area of provenance. With the deluge of digital
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essential part of the quality of data, and it is essential to the trust
we put in, for example, the data we find on the Web and the data that is
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The workshop may cover any topic related to theoretical or practical
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of or requirements for provenance.

Please adhere to these guidelines on how and what to submit:
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Re: Graphical Terminal Environment

2012-03-07 Thread Bakul Shah
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:08:51 EST Brandon Falk   wrote:
>You seem to understand exactly want I want. Just small font terminals on all
>screens, and I was actually thinking `screen` would do the trick for the
>splitting/management of them. As for stripping down X, I might do so as a proof
>of concept, but in the end I want to develop my own for my own learning.
> 
>When I mention lines, circles, etc I was thinking moreso at the very low level
>of fonts being drawn by lines and dots (although I would like to branch it
>eventually to support 2d graphics where people could maybe make some 2d games,
>but keep the high-res terminal on the side to keep it minimal). I also may want
>to draw some lines to border terminal windows (screen would eliminate this
>obviously).

You might want to look at /dev/draw of plan9. And rio, as
someone else also suggested.  /sys/src/9/port/devdraw.c on
plan9 is only about 2200 lines. You may also wish to read Rob
Pike's paper on 8 1/2 and man pages for draw(2), draw(3),
graphics(2) and rio(1) @ cat-v.org. See rio presentation @
http://herpolhode.com/rob/lec5.pdf as it lays out window
system design issues very nicely.
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