Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu chapter.sgml

2011-12-11 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:29:38 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn
 wrote:

> On 12/10/11 15:06, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> > On 10/12/2011 10:40 μμ, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:32:06 + (UTC) Manolis Kiagias
> >>   wrote:
> >>
> >> CCing re@, emulation@ and nwhitehorn@ due to a possible impact in
> >> the upcomming release.
> >>
> >>>Modified files:
> >>>  en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml
> >>>  en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu chapter.sgml
> >>>Log:
> >>>Use /compat/linux/proc instead of /usr/compat/linux/proc as the
> >>> mount point of linproc in the examples, since:
> >>>
> >>>- linux_base always installs to /compat and creates it as a
> >>> directory if it does not exist as a symlink
> >>>- Custom installations (not done by sysinstall(8)) may not
> >>> have /compat at all
> >>>- The linuxemu chapter uses /compat anyway (except a single
> >>> example, fixed)
> >>>- The new bsdinstall(8) does not create /compat either as
> >>> directory or symlink
> >> Looks like a bug in bsdinstall (and linux_base) to me. What you
> >> write here means that a new release with bsdinstall instead of
> >> sysinstall may cause problems where /compat is in a small
> >> partition and /usr in a big partition (even if it creates a big
> >> one by default, an user may change this). I suggest to fix
> >> bsdinstall before the release of 9.0. It also changes what is
> >> expected by long-term users.
> >
> > Yes, this was discussed in the PR (see 
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2011-December/019270.html 
> > ). I think the best and safer way would be for bsdinstall to create 
> > the link if possible.
> 
> This is very easy to do, and the correct place is in 
> /usr/src/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/config. I don't have a good
> sense of what the correct logic is, however, and so would appreciate
> either guidance or patches from emulation-types.

mkdir /usr/compat
ln -s /usr/compat /compat

To be checked (maybe): can or are parts of this already handled in mtree
files?
 - Is /usr/compat already in a mtree file and if not why not?
 - Can the link be handled in a mtree file and if yes, should it be
   added there instead?

Bye,
Alexander.

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Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu chapter.sgml

2011-12-11 Thread Nathan Whitehorn

On 12/11/11 08:24, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:29:38 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn
  wrote:


On 12/10/11 15:06, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

On 10/12/2011 10:40 μμ, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:32:06 + (UTC) Manolis Kiagias
   wrote:

CCing re@, emulation@ and nwhitehorn@ due to a possible impact in
the upcomming release.


Modified files:
  en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml
  en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu chapter.sgml
Log:
Use /compat/linux/proc instead of /usr/compat/linux/proc as the
mount point of linproc in the examples, since:

- linux_base always installs to /compat and creates it as a
directory if it does not exist as a symlink
- Custom installations (not done by sysinstall(8)) may not
have /compat at all
- The linuxemu chapter uses /compat anyway (except a single
example, fixed)
- The new bsdinstall(8) does not create /compat either as
directory or symlink

Looks like a bug in bsdinstall (and linux_base) to me. What you
write here means that a new release with bsdinstall instead of
sysinstall may cause problems where /compat is in a small
partition and /usr in a big partition (even if it creates a big
one by default, an user may change this). I suggest to fix
bsdinstall before the release of 9.0. It also changes what is
expected by long-term users.

Yes, this was discussed in the PR (see
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2011-December/019270.html
). I think the best and safer way would be for bsdinstall to create
the link if possible.

This is very easy to do, and the correct place is in
/usr/src/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/config. I don't have a good
sense of what the correct logic is, however, and so would appreciate
either guidance or patches from emulation-types.

mkdir /usr/compat
ln -s /usr/compat /compat

To be checked (maybe): can or are parts of this already handled in mtree
files?
  - Is /usr/compat already in a mtree file and if not why not?
  - Can the link be handled in a mtree file and if yes, should it be
added there instead?



/usr/compat is not currently part of anything. There's also the problem 
that the user may not actually want it on /usr (e.g. if /usr is 
read-only or small). I think that for the purposes of 9.0, your 
suggested patch will do the job, but longer-term, moving them to 
LOCALBASE seems better. But that's my two cents.

-Nathan
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Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu chapter.sgml

2011-12-11 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:38:45 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn
 wrote:

> On 12/11/11 08:24, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:29:38 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn
> >   wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/10/11 15:06, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> >>> On 10/12/2011 10:40 μμ, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>  On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:32:06 + (UTC) Manolis Kiagias
> wrote:
> 
>  CCing re@, emulation@ and nwhitehorn@ due to a possible impact in
>  the upcomming release.
> 
> > Modified files:
> >   en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop chapter.sgml
> >   en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu chapter.sgml
> > Log:
> > Use /compat/linux/proc instead of /usr/compat/linux/proc as
> > the mount point of linproc in the examples, since:
> >
> > - linux_base always installs to /compat and creates it as a
> > directory if it does not exist as a symlink
> > - Custom installations (not done by sysinstall(8)) may not
> > have /compat at all
> > - The linuxemu chapter uses /compat anyway (except a single
> > example, fixed)
> > - The new bsdinstall(8) does not create /compat either as
> > directory or symlink
>  Looks like a bug in bsdinstall (and linux_base) to me. What you
>  write here means that a new release with bsdinstall instead of
>  sysinstall may cause problems where /compat is in a small
>  partition and /usr in a big partition (even if it creates a big
>  one by default, an user may change this). I suggest to fix
>  bsdinstall before the release of 9.0. It also changes what is
>  expected by long-term users.
> >>> Yes, this was discussed in the PR (see
> >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2011-December/019270.html
> >>> ). I think the best and safer way would be for bsdinstall to
> >>> create the link if possible.
> >> This is very easy to do, and the correct place is in
> >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/config. I don't have a good
> >> sense of what the correct logic is, however, and so would
> >> appreciate either guidance or patches from emulation-types.
> > mkdir /usr/compat
> > ln -s /usr/compat /compat
> >
> > To be checked (maybe): can or are parts of this already handled in
> > mtree files?
> >   - Is /usr/compat already in a mtree file and if not why not?
> >   - Can the link be handled in a mtree file and if yes, should it be
> > added there instead?
> >
> 
> /usr/compat is not currently part of anything. There's also the
> problem that the user may not actually want it on /usr (e.g. if /usr
> is read-only or small). I think that for the purposes of 9.0, your 
> suggested patch will do the job, but longer-term, moving them to 
> LOCALBASE seems better. But that's my two cents.

Personally I do not care much where the linux-bits are located in the
FS. As long as we keep the /compat link, it should work (kernel and
ports look in /compat/linux).

Bye,
Alexander.

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brandelf and LINUXBASE/usr/libexec

2011-12-11 Thread Boris Samorodov
Hi List,

linux ports install some linux ELF binaries at LINUXBASE/usr/libexec.
Should those files be branded to linux?

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