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Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
Glen Barber wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 09:52:55AM +0800, Fbsd8 wrote: I though the goal of the handbook was to be usable and here we have our main documentation looking like something created by people who don't even know the normal standard parts of a published document or the professional way to organize content. Your insults are not appreciated. Please reconsider your response, and if you feel there is still a concern, reply in a professional, non-insulting manner. Glen Well Glen what you consider insulting I consider frank and to the point. Since when do people have to accept your censorship? There is no censorship on any of the FreeBSD lists so quite trying to force your personal old fashioned thin skinned attitudes on the members of this list. I find your remarks to be insulting and totally out of place. And as usual you remove from the post the text that explains that statement so you can take it out of context. shame on you, you should know better, you have been called on this before. Any future reply to this thread by you will go unanswered by me for I will not lower myself to your level. ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On 23 Jan 2014, at 13:04, Fbsd8 wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 09:52:55AM +0800, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> I though the goal of the handbook was to be usable and here we have our main >>> documentation looking like something created by people who don't even know >>> the normal standard parts of a published document or the professional way to >>> organize content. >>> >> Your insults are not appreciated. >> Please reconsider your response, and if you feel there is still >> a concern, reply in a professional, non-insulting manner. >> Glen > > Well Glen what you consider insulting I consider frank and to the point. > Since when do people have to accept your censorship? There is no censorship > on any of the FreeBSD lists so quite trying to force your personal old > fashioned thin skinned attitudes on the members of this list. I find your > remarks to be insulting and totally out of place. And as usual you remove > from the post the text that explains that statement so you can take it out of > context. shame on you, you should know better, you have been called on this > before. Any future reply to this thread by you will go unanswered by me for I > will not lower myself to your level. Thank you for proving Glen’s point. Please move along now, nothing to see here. > > ___ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- /"\ Best regards, | re...@freebsd.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Remko Lodder wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2014, at 13:04, Fbsd8 wrote: > > > Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 09:52:55AM +0800, Fbsd8 wrote: > >>> I though the goal of the handbook was to be usable and here we have > our main > >>> documentation looking like something created by people who don't even > know > >>> the normal standard parts of a published document or the professional > way to > >>> organize content. > >>> > >> Your insults are not appreciated. > >> Please reconsider your response, and if you feel there is still > >> a concern, reply in a professional, non-insulting manner. > >> Glen > > > > Well Glen what you consider insulting I consider frank and to the point. > Since when do people have to accept your censorship? There is no > censorship on any of the FreeBSD lists so quite trying to force your > personal old fashioned thin skinned attitudes on the members of this list. > I find your remarks to be insulting and totally out of place. And as usual > you remove from the post the text that explains that statement so you can > take it out of context. shame on you, you should know better, you have been > called on this before. Any future reply to this thread by you will go > unanswered by me for I will not lower myself to your level. > > Thank you for proving Glen’s point. Please move along now, nothing to see > here. > > > > > ___ > > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > -- > > /"\ Best regards, | re...@freebsd.org > \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet > Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/ | > / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News > Well, to focus this back on the original point, I'd like to see the Table of Contents for the Handbook take better advantage of the horizontal "page". I use a 24" monitor @ 1920x1200 and there is a lot of [wasted] white space on my screen when viewing the TOC. It takes me eight (8) mouse scroll movements to get from top to bottom (or eighteen (18) scroll bar clicks). It's got to be even worse for folks with small screens. It would be good if we could redesign the TOC to take better advantage of the horizontal "page", something that would work for large an small screen users. The individual sections of the Handbook use the full horizontal "page", why not the TOC? ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On 2014.01.23. 13:04, Fbsd8 wrote: Well Glen what you consider insulting I consider frank and to the point. Since when do people have to accept your censorship? There is no censorship on any of the FreeBSD lists so quite trying to force your personal old fashioned thin skinned attitudes on the members of this list. I find your remarks to be insulting and totally out of place. And as usual you remove from the post the text that explains that statement so you can take it out of context. shame on you, you should know better, you have been called on this before. Any future reply to this thread by you will go unanswered by me for I will not lower myself to your level. Where's your signature? If it is really a frank opinion, why don't you sign it with your real name? Gabor Kovesdan ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On 2014.01.23. 16:31, Thomas Hoffmann wrote: Well, to focus this back on the original point, I'd like to see the Table of Contents for the Handbook take better advantage of the horizontal "page". I use a 24" monitor @ 1920x1200 and there is a lot of [wasted] white space on my screen when viewing the TOC. It takes me eight (8) mouse scroll movements to get from top to bottom (or eighteen (18) scroll bar clicks). It's got to be even worse for folks with small screens. It would be good if we could redesign the TOC to take better advantage of the horizontal "page", something that would work for large an small screen users. As you state here, the list is already so long, that's exactly why subsections are not included... The individual sections of the Handbook use the full horizontal "page", why not the TOC? What do you exactly mean by horizontal page? Gabor ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > On 2014.01.23. 16:31, Thomas Hoffmann wrote: > >> Well, to focus this back on the original point, I'd like to see the Table >> of Contents for the Handbook take better advantage of the horizontal >> "page". I use a 24" monitor @ 1920x1200 and there is a lot of [wasted] >> white space on my screen when viewing the TOC. It takes me eight (8) mouse >> scroll movements to get from top to bottom (or eighteen (18) scroll bar >> clicks). It's got to be even worse for folks with small screens. It would >> be good if we could redesign the TOC to take better advantage of the >> horizontal "page", something that would work for large an small screen >> users. >> > As you state here, the list is already so long, that's exactly why > subsections are not included... > > >> The individual sections of the Handbook use the full horizontal "page", >> why not the TOC? >> > What do you exactly mean by horizontal page? > > Gabor > I agree, the TOC is already too long vertically. Adding subsections would exacerbate the problem. By "horizontal page" I mean taking advantage of the full screen width, for example, by using multi-columns or similar technique. That would get more info on each screen page. Compare the TOC with the x-config.html page ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html), which uses the full page width. -Tom ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On 2014.01.23. 16:59, Thomas Hoffmann wrote: I agree, the TOC is already too long vertically. Adding subsections would exacerbate the problem. By "horizontal page" I mean taking advantage of the full screen width, for example, by using multi-columns or similar technique. That would get more info on each screen page. Compare the TOC with the x-config.html page ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html), which uses the full page width. The problem with this is that TOC is a multiple level enumeration by nature, which is conventionally listed vertically in order. Using two columns may be confusing for people since it is not conventional. And if we use 2 columns, what order would it follow? Like this: 12 1.12.1 1.22.2 1.32.3 Or this: 1 1.11.2 1.31.4 And what to do on smaller screens if the two columns do not fit? I believe that a collapsible tree list would be the best option but that requires JavaScript, which we prefer to avoid... Gabor ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: docs/144515: [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > On 2014.01.23. 16:59, Thomas Hoffmann wrote: > >> I agree, the TOC is already too long vertically. Adding subsections would >> exacerbate the problem. >> >> By "horizontal page" I mean taking advantage of the full screen width, >> for example, by using multi-columns or similar technique. That would get >> more info on each screen page. Compare the TOC with the x-config.html page >> ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html), >> which uses the full page width. >> > The problem with this is that TOC is a multiple level enumeration by > nature, which is conventionally listed vertically in order. Using two > columns may be confusing for people since it is not conventional. And if we > use 2 columns, what order would it follow? Like this: > > 12 > 1.12.1 > 1.22.2 > 1.32.3 > > Or this: > > 1 > 1.11.2 > 1.31.4 > > And what to do on smaller screens if the two columns do not fit? > > I believe that a collapsible tree list would be the best option but that > requires JavaScript, which we prefer to avoid... > > Gabor > Top to bottom, left to right would be the normal "western" approach, no? Personally, I would have no problem with a TOC that only listed the major chapters. If you want the details sections/subsections) you would drill (click) down as required: 1.6. 2.7. 3 8. 4.9. 5. 10. or even 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. etc. It would require less scrolling, but this might be objectionable to many. I understand completely your desire to avoid JS. This may simply be an intractable problem. -Tom ___ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
