Re: Main site makeover
Do you have a mock up of what you are thinking of? On Thu, 26 May 2005, John Jawed wrote: Hello, Long time user, first time poster :-P I've been advocating FreeBSD to my Linux counter parts ever since I started using FreeBSD. It sometimes disappoints me when I visit the main site, freebsd.org <http://freebsd.org>, that it has an early 90's Frontpage errie look to it. If this has been discussed before and a new layout is on it's way, please disregard my comments. I would like to help bring the front page into the future, and the site design in general. I'm willing to give the webmasters the CSS and HTML files of my design, no strings attached. The new design IMO, would be essentially the same as far as where things are situated, and well organized as it is currently. Regards, john ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Main site makeover
On Fri, 27 May 2005, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2005, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Take it from someone who has tried before; you will get no response whatsoever until you can show a complete and functional version of what you are trying to accomplish. But trust me, there are a lot of voices out there that wants the website to change, so if you can produce something that will get it started, you will get a lot of support! What happened to this? http://www.monkey.org/freebsd/archive/freebsd-advocacy/200412/msg00080.html Not much of a change from what is there now ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as a Desktop Article
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 1/5/06, Frank Laszlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kövesdán Gábor wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: On 1/4/06, James Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: never mind, I just made one so go sign it!!! http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html I've signed it and posted it to a Hungarian open-source community, but I think it would be nice if somebody from the doc team can add it to the news on the website, so I cc'd freebsd-doc@, I hope this helps geting Adobe to release a working Flash for FreeBSD. Regards, Gabor Kovesdan Not to rain on the parade, but since when has one of those online petitions done any good? It may be trivial but at least I did something to rectify it. Talking about are problems will get us nowhere unless we also do. Do you have a better plan of action? The problem is, anyone can sign a petition, even those that don't, nor will ever, use the software, which is what makes them meaningless :( You really need to get someone on the inside that is using FreeBSD and push from that direction ... unless its a product you can pay for, and then you make the dollars speak for you ... What about the FreeBSD Foundation ... maybe something that they can organize? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ask for FreeBSD support here! Let's join forces!
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-08-20 15:46, Mark Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006, at 16:25:21 -0300, Charles A. Landemaine wrote: On 8/20/06, Don Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The next release of Adobe flash developer will have a revised license which will include FreeBSD. This was per the product manager. License is not the most important. What is important for the end user is having a native version of his own operating system :) Agreed. I read this last month: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/07/api_review.html The using ALSA for sound in version 9 doesn't sound very good for getting it to work on FreeBSD even if/when the license allows it. I don't understand why it's so hard for them to make it compatible with more OSes. They are in the business of selling software to create content in their proprietary Flash format, but if that can't be viewed on every common OS, then I think/know developers will not develop exclusively in Flash as much. I'm probably stating the blatantly obvious, but the trick is how we can convince them that FreeBSD is a "common OS", I guess :) That is why I wrote up and setup bsdstats.org ... see /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats ... get included ... the idea is to get continuous, monthly numbers on deployments of FreeBSD, what versions are in use, what architectures ... and, if you so desire to add it, what hardware is in use also ... It started as an attempt to get numbers for hardware vendors to show that porting drivers to us is 'a good market', but it definitely applies to anything else ... showing realistic numbers to show that we are a "common OS" and not a hobbiest OS ... This is *not* a short term project though ... there are 5-10 new hosts being added daily, but "it had to start somewhere" ... Please note that alot of work was done with ppl on -questions to reduce the security implications of this script, to the point that we don't store anything in the database that could be traced back to a specific machine (ie. no IP, no hostname) ... *and* we taken steps to try and mitigate 'fakers' ... no way to eliminate them completely, but our hope is that as the numbers get higher, the %age of 'fakers' will drop to a neglible amount ... See http://www.bsdstats.org for current results ... ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ask for FreeBSD support here! Let's join forces!
Fixed, thanks ... On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-08-24 22:26, "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'm probably stating the blatantly obvious, but the trick is how we can convince them that FreeBSD is a "common OS", I guess :) That is why I wrote up and setup bsdstats.org ... see /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats ... get included ... the idea is to get continuous, monthly numbers on deployments of FreeBSD, what versions are in use, what architectures ... and, if you so desire to add it, what hardware is in use also ... The port has a few minor problems, but I did install and run it here. Can we fix the following too, please? :-) # pkg_delete bsdstats-3.0_2 pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/etc/periodic/montly' doesn't exist pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/periodic/montly' pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/periodic' pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root# ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ask for FreeBSD support here! Let's join forces!
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Dirk Meyer wrote: Giorgos Keramidas schrieb:, I'm probably stating the blatantly obvious, but the trick is how we can convince them that FreeBSD is a "common OS", I guess :) Not an easy task, 60% of all companies I talked too had problems to get int installed on an used hardware. 'k, I'd be interested in knowing exactly what problems they had ... was it hardware, or ease of install? ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats: August Statistics
Antony has been working on the web site itself (http://www.bsdstats.org) to make it look good, but the stats pages still need work ... but, like everyone, "business and family come first" ... I'm going to work on writing up a 'general report', and, of course, we will have 'previous stats' available on the web site, but here is how August looked over all ... September is already looking better, with 1064 hosts already reporting in ... Hosts reporting in August: 957 Top 5 Countries: Germany | 142 United States| 137 Russian Federation | 119 Ukraine | 106 Australia|48 Architectures Reporting in: i386 | 867 amd64|75 sparc64 | 7 alpha| 6 powerpc | 1 ia64 | 1 Major Releases in Use: 6.x | 681 5.x | 138 4.x | 109 7.x |29 Top 10 Branches in Use: 6.1-STABLE | 301 6.1-RELEASE| 116 6.1-RELEASE-p3 | 105 4.11-STABLE|41 6.1-RELEASE-p2 |31 6.0-RELEASE|28 7.0-CURRENT|26 5.4-RELEASE|20 5.4-STABLE |18 6.1-PRERELEASE |17 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Chris wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I think someone is playing games. I saw Korea put up 40 plus boxen in under 10 mins. And between Net, Open and DF, there are only a few... Are you sure? And if so, based on what ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Chris wrote: It seemed to coincidental that all 3 OS's were accelerating within the same time frame and all within a relatively close margin from one another. 245 of the Korean hits came from the same IP, which would be within the realm of a NATd box ... and, looking at the logs, each system is reporting how/as I'd expect it ... It could be one of the schools in Korea? As I said, looking at the data itself, if it is someone playing games, they've gone to alot of effort to "mask" it ... including mix-n-matching Operating Systems with Architectures, so that they aren't all reporting the exact same thing ... even the user agents are coming through "as expected" for each of hte operating systems reported ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:02:45PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? So which korean freebsd mailing lists did you advertise bsdstats on? There are korean maillng lists? :) And, I've been talking to Matt @ DragonFlyBSD, and he believes that the reports from Korea/China are bogus ... there is no AMD64 port of DragonFly ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Olivier Nicole wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... 6 days later: Thailand jumped from 12 machines to 110... ahead of France and Australia. This is a long shot, but couldn't it just be that a portal or usergroup of some kind started promoting bsdstats? Lets say a BSD usergroup in Thailand posted a notice on the first page about bsdstats. The usergroup has 200 visitors a day and half of them decides to follow the advice and install bsdstats. That would explain the sudden burst of 100 machines. Another plausible explanation is that an administrator of some network with 100 or so workstations or servers decided to push out bsdstats as a nightly upgrade or similar. It does not seem totally impossible to me, alltough I would not base any major decision on those figures without checking them first. At only 5000 hosts, I wouldn't be basing any decisions anyway ... I'd like to see 10x that number, and consistently, every month before reading *too* much into them ... Its only been running about 30 days so far, so @ 5k hosts so far, and most of those *since* Sept 1st, it shouldn't take us too long ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Oliver Fromme wrote: Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At only 5000 hosts, I wouldn't be basing any decisions anyway ... I'd like > to see 10x that number, and consistently, every month before reading *too* > much into them ... > > Its only been running about 30 days so far, so @ 5k hosts so far, and most > of those *since* Sept 1st, it shouldn't take us too long ... By the way, I've got a small question. Does the database throw all entries away at the end of each month, and start all over again with zero entries? Or is each entry expired after a certain time has elapsed (31 days or whatever)? Neither ... the month that the report was submitted for has one entry for host ... we'll be able to graph stuff like growht in # of reporting hosts and such ... I just noticed that "PC-BSD" is mentioned as separate OS in the statistics now. I think it would be better to count it for FreeBSD instead, because PC-BSD (similar to FreeSBIE) is just a standard FreeBSD kernel + userland, plus some gadgets on top (GUI installer or live FS, respectively). The 'plus some gadgets on top' is, IMHO, important ... it shows ppl are adopting BSD, but that, for them, those 'gadgets' are important for the deployment ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Oliver Fromme wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > By the way, I've got a small question. Does the database > > throw all entries away at the end of each month, and start > > all over again with zero entries? Or is each entry expired > > after a certain time has elapsed (31 days or whatever)? > > Neither ... the month that the report was submitted for has one entry for > host ... we'll be able to graph stuff like growht in # of reporting hosts > and such ... I'm not sure that will work well ... Lets see what happens when October begins. At the beginning of September, the statistics were all reset to zero. That is correct ... this is one of my hosts: id |unique_key | country_code | first_connect -+---+--+ 235 | cdd6a5011ac543400bcaafb413ae577d | PA | 2006-08-15 06:53:50.077533 And this is what its reported for so far: id | operating_system | release | architecture |report_month -+--+-+--+ 235 | FreeBSD | 4.11-STABLE | i386 | 2006-08-15 07:08:50.694954 235 | FreeBSD | 4.11-STABLE | i386 | 2006-09-01 08:30:06.198988 (2 rows) One for August, one for September ... start of October, a third entry will be added ... Sorry, I was a bit unclear ... I didn't mean to say that you shouldn't collect the numbers for each OS sub-variant (or lets call it "distribution") separately. But I think it would make sense to group them together for the "Big 4" on the front page (main page) at bsdstats.org. Except those that are working hard on the various 'sub-variants' are proud to see the fact that the work they are doing is being used, plus, it helps to advertise those sub-variants, so that ppl know they are out there ... By the way, I think you cannot tell much from those numbers, because they don't really show any real-world usage of the various BSD variants. Not now, and not in a year from now. The reason for that is that the different BSD projects have very different policies for enabling the bsdstats script by default during installation or during update. The thing is, we're not looking at producing a "this is all the BSD hosts that are out there" sort of number ... we are trying to produce a "see, there *is* a BSD market" ... what does some place like Adaptec consider a "market", that I don't know ... 100k hosts? 500k hosts? I don't know that, each manufacturer (both software and hardware) will have different thresholds ... the point is that we now have *some* marketing numbers that aren't "purely guesswork" ... Hell, even looking at the numbers now ... 10,328 hosts, 42.2% of which are OpenBSD ... 4 362 hosts doesn't sound like alot, but those are 4 362 hosts that will *never* see an Adaptec controller because of Adaptec's closed-doc policy ... what's the average price of an Adaptec controller nowadays? Looking at there site, their SAS RAID controller is SRP: $995 ... that is $4 340 190 in potential revenu *if* everyone bought that card ... even if average price was $100, that is $436 200 in potential revenue that can't be tap'd ... and that number is probably not even 1/10th of the actual # of hosts out there ... And ya, I know, not everyone would by Adaptec even if they had open docs ... that isn't the point ... the point is that Adaptec is getting *zero* right now from the OpenBSD market, since they are closed docs ... By the way (apropos default policies): Guess why OpenBSD has gotten ahead of FreeBSD in the statistics? It has been growing at a much higer rate all the time, and will continue to do so. Soon the statistics will "prove" that OpenBSD's user base is ten times larger than FreeBSD's, because we won't have a bsdstats option in sysinstall in 6.2-Release. I'd be willing to submit a patch (I'm somewhat familiar with the sysinstall code), but I assume it's too late because we're already in code freeze, and sysinstall is a particularly critical piece of code. Apart from that, such a patch will probably be shredded to pieces by bike shed discussions. Of course, not submitting the patch ASAP will ensure that not only do it not getting into 6.2-RELEASE, but it won't get into subsequent releases, or -CURRENT, or ... :) *sigh* I'm sorry, what I wrote isn't really constructive, but rather bellyaching about the whole situation. Maybe I should better shut up now. :-) I got tired of bellyaching, and created bsdstats.org ... *shrug* Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.
BSDStats 4.0 - You need to upgrade ...
IMPORTANT! This message has been blind-carbon-copied to you. Do not reply-to-all or forward it without the author's permission. Apologies for the multi-list post, but I've been receiving several requests from varous *BSD users about this, so figured I'd hit everyone in one fell swoop ... First, for those that aren't aware, back in August, after some lengthy discussions on the FreeBSD mailing lists, I built a script that is meant to provide a means of building up usage metrics for the *BSD operating systems ... something that refreshes itself mountly (ie. periodic monthly script in FreeBSD) so that it isn't "who installed *BSD", but "who is currently running *BSD" ... The results of this work can be seen at http://www.bsdstats.org This is not a "FreeBSD is better then ..." sort of thing, although some wish to see it that way ... the point is to get an idea of how many are running *BSDs to show vendors (both software and hardware) that we aren't just a bunch of hobbiest, but are viable market that they should be addressing. Since we started this, we've hit two hurdles that had to be addressed by upgrading the script in such a way that makes the older ones unable to be used for reporting ... If you are running the script, please make sure that you are running the *newest* version, which is available at: http://www.bsdstats.org/downloads/300.statistics For those paranoid about running stuff like this ... its a shell script, and there is nothing 'hidden' or 'covert' about it ... it sends in what operating system, what version and what architecture you are running ... we do not store your IP or hostname in the database, everything is key'd off a key you send in on first connection, and a token we send back ... after that first run, unless you remove the token file from your server, it will repeatedly use the same key/token pair ... And, the script is meant to be run monthly ... we are looking for long term usage numbers, not a 'point in time' sort of thing ... So, if you haven't downloaded and upgraded to the newest version, please do and run the script when finished to get your host into the system. If you have any questions, please email me directly ... ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDStats 4.0 - You need to upgrade ...
Apologies for the multi-list post, but I've been receiving several requests from varous *BSD users about this, so figured I'd hit everyone in one fell swoop ... First, for those that aren't aware, back in August, after some lengthy discussions on the FreeBSD mailing lists, I built a script that is meant to provide a means of building up usage metrics for the *BSD operating systems ... something that refreshes itself mountly (ie. periodic monthly script in FreeBSD) so that it isn't "who installed *BSD", but "who is currently running *BSD" ... The results of this work can be seen at http://www.bsdstats.org This is not a "FreeBSD is better then ..." sort of thing, although some wish to see it that way ... the point is to get an idea of how many are running *BSDs to show vendors (both software and hardware) that we aren't just a bunch of hobbiest, but are viable market that they should be addressing. Since we started this, we've hit two hurdles that had to be addressed by upgrading the script in such a way that makes the older ones unable to be used for reporting ... If you are running the script, please make sure that you are running the *newest* version, which is available at: http://www.bsdstats.org/downloads/300.statistics For those paranoid about running stuff like this ... its a shell script, and there is nothing 'hidden' or 'covert' about it ... it sends in what operating system, what version and what architecture you are running ... we do not store your IP or hostname in the database, everything is key'd off a key you send in on first connection, and a token we send back ... after that first run, unless you remove the token file from your server, it will repeatedly use the same key/token pair ... And, the script is meant to be run monthly ... we are looking for long term usage numbers, not a 'point in time' sort of thing ... So, if you haven't downloaded and upgraded to the newest version, please do and run the script when finished to get your host into the system. If you have any questions, please email me directly ... ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats: First solid month ... September Monthly Report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Its hard to know if the statistics gathered over the course of the month are accurate or not, but for statistics purposes, and trends, we are going to use the numbers as presented on the 1st of each month ... these statistics are meant to be run monthly, out of cron/periodic, on the first of each month, so, in theory, a snapshot of statistics as of the first should be a reasonable number to use as "good reports" from the previous month. At least, that's the theory. Thank you for everyone that is participating ... hopefully October's numbers continue to grow. That said, here are how the statistics looked as of the 1st of October, which should represent all hosts that are running the statistics as designed: General: operating_system | count - --+--- FreeBSD | 2129 NetBSD | 142 OpenBSD |85 DragonFly|11 GNU/kFreeBSD | 3 PC-BSD | 1 MirBSD | 1 architecture | count - --+--- i386 | 2050 amd64| 193 sparc64 |25 sparc|12 mvme88k |12 luna88k |11 macppc |10 zaurus |10 alpha| 8 mac68k | 8 long| count - +--- United States | 322 Panama | 302 Germany| 194 Japan | 181 Russian Federation | 181 Ukraine| 171 Taiwan | 122 Brazil | 104 Sweden |71 United Kingdom |65 FreeBSD Specific: release | count - -+--- 6.x | 1666 5.x | 337 4.x | 244 7.x |27 architecture | count - --+--- i386 | 1935 amd64| 175 sparc64 |15 alpha| 3 ia64 | 1 release | architecture | count - -+--+--- 6.1 | i386 | 691 6.2 | i386 | 605 4.11| i386 | 193 5.5 | i386 | 134 5.4 | i386 | 120 6.2 | amd64| 108 6.0 | i386 |92 6.1 | amd64|55 5.3 | i386 |38 7.0 | i386 |20 long| count - +--- Panama | 302 United States | 242 Germany| 190 Russian Federation | 175 Ukraine| 169 Japan | 151 Taiwan | 120 Brazil | 101 Sweden |63 France |58 As an aside, *if* we take all those hosts that reported in in September as legit, but having setup cron/periodic properly, the numbers actually look like: operating_system | count - --+--- OpenBSD | 3858 FreeBSD | 1976 NetBSD | 1827 GNU/kFreeBSD | 144 DragonFly| 137 PC-BSD |90 MirBSD | 8 FreeBSD | count - -+--- i386| 1749 amd64 | 131 i686|78 sparc64 |14 alpha | 2 ia64| 1 powerpc | 1 So, FreeBSD has had a 21% increase, most likely due to ppl upgrading their script, but not re-running it ... For realtime stats, please see http://www.bsdstats.org If you haven't installed it already, please see /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFSWbG4QvfyHIvDvMRAsIQAJ9x4ZQdanQLkB6gu21YVBtpfZv+nwCeOGzZ aBPa6Frcx8HJWH2WgArMVS4= =Btf+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats v5.0 Released (totally backwards compatible)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've just extended the bsdstats script to allow for *optional* reporting of installed ports ... the only change for this is that its using 'nc' for reporting of ports, since it would break GETs length limits ... It reports in category, port and version of the port ... Antony coded up 'proxy related' settings as well, so that nc *should* work through a proxy ... he's planning on testing the code more on his servers in the morning, but this is tested in a non-proxy setup ... The code doesn't change any of the other tests, so nothing gets 'broken' is you stick with the older v4.x clients ... its only if you wish to add to the ports report is the upgrade required ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFcDAl4QvfyHIvDvMRAhjcAKC1yXuoFJabLaIlDI2KfZtrghzd0ACdGDhy R00bx1HcaQKhgcN9Uer2E4c= =DOue -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The following numbers reflect those systems that reported in on the 1st day of the month of December, compared against the 1st day of the previous month. Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information ... and this report is only the FreeBSD hosts: Numbers are up from November, which is what we hope for ... not drastically, but 7.5% isn't shabby either: Last MonthThis Month % Change Total Systems 2085 2254 7.50% alpha 3 3 0.00% amd64173 163-6.13% i386 1893 2072 8.64% ia64 1 0 0.00% sparc64 1516 6.25% 4.x224 220-1.82% 5.x303 37218.55% 6.x 1533 1623 5.55% 7.x 253935.90% For those wishing to see more formal stats, or more detail, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... we've recently added on a Ports Report, that is present in v5.0 available in /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats ... Thank you to all that are currently participating ... hopefully next month we can see as much growth as we did this one (although we know of a site in Australia that is supposedly about to add 800+ hosts, so we should see that easily) ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFcoYw4QvfyHIvDvMRAqDLAJsEsLvSysGG0GVDfmivXv3BML1wJQCglQo4 Lztb4tiJcOP68dSoYJVzpjo= =w0V7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Sunday, December 03, 2006 19:43:41 +0300 Boris Samorodov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:09:18 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the >> 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information >> ... > > I have some diskless workstations running FreeBSD. Sure users are not > supposed to use them _every_ first day of month (ex. when this day is > a weekend or a holiday). Whould stats from those workstations be > useless? Good question ... not useless, but not sure how (and/or if) it would work ... the script creates a /var/db/bsdstats file that contains the KEY/TOKEN that is used to talk to the server, which is used on subsequent reports so that it doesn't get reported as a 'new host', but just updates the old data ... If its diskless, will each reboot end up reporting as a whole new host each time, or is there some way of saving that /var/db/bsdstats across reboots? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFczwA4QvfyHIvDvMRAp6PAJ0dkcwrKTlzhjgqsfeSR8i8XYaS7QCgr4Td UKzme94Y7Zi2AYOGPzN/Bls= =r9D6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, December 04, 2006 02:07:08 +0300 Boris Samorodov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:05:04 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> If its diskless, will each reboot end up reporting as a whole new host each >> time, or is there some way of saving that /var/db/bsdstats across reboots? > > We use memory mounted /var. :-( > Ok, let's only our servers do the reporting. 'k, I'm clueless on diskless, so this may or may not be doable ... but would it be possible to cp the bsdstats file from the 'disk mount server' to /var/db/bsdstats on reboot? Say, something scripted like: if [ ! -f /var/db/bsdstats ]; then if [ -f /bsdstats.`hostname` ]; then cp /bsdstats.`hostname` /var/db/bsdstats else run 300.statistics cp /var/db/bsdstats /bsdstats.`hostname` fi fi Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFc2uf4QvfyHIvDvMRAiexAJ4y/VmnZ89rxhIU2eOSXL4YQUvLeACgqdA2 07v4cbtbLmfSgAuO8ras+zo= =jk41 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The following numbers reflect the change in reporting numbers between October and November 2006. These include both those that reported *on* the 1st of the month, as well as those changes over the course of the month. Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information. As such, we tend to be more focused on the 39% increase in recurring monthly reports OctNov % Chg DragonFly 13 11 -18% 137 18 -661% FreeBSD660 2085 68% 1976 2659 25% GNU/kFreeBSD 33 3-1000% 144 7-1957% MirBSD 0 1 100% 8 4 -100% NetBSD365142 -157% 1827276 -561% OpenBSD334 83 -302% 3858927 -316% PC-BSD 2 1 -100% 90 51 -76% Overall 1407 2326 39% 8040 3942 -103% The first row for each is the # that reported on the 1st of each month ... in theory, all hosts should be renewing their report on that date. The second row represents total # of hosts that have reported on that month. A complete comparison, including architecture and releases, can be found at: http://www.bsdstats.org/report.php?lastmonth&os= where operating system is one of the above ... For those wishing to see more formal stats, or more detail, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Thank you to all that are currently participating ... and we look forward to seeing increases on subsequent months ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFc2l84QvfyHIvDvMRApy/AKC2WsBdKMRcLfHdDq2hbHemNzjlNgCfWl2g lnhrVvJejbLKmOKwbclkkbM= =jHFl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, December 04, 2006 20:46:49 +0300 Boris Samorodov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the >> diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? > > As I said I'm afraid those machines may give some destabilization to > bsdstats results when the First of month is a holiday/weekend. So I'm > not sure if it's a good thing to report them to bsdstats.org. What do > you think? Run them, but, have the script to pull the bsdstats file over also run the script at the same time, so that not only do they update their stats 'on the 1st' (if they are up), but also when they reboot ... that way, it is guaranteed to report once a month ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdGzx4QvfyHIvDvMRApRnAJ0dz7Kr3gPmznH5kxhpSuGotQCzFwCgtM5o 4sCeAj1OsrJkAFU9ZQJ4QpM= =gZYQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, December 04, 2006 22:50:26 +0300 Boris Samorodov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...but you seem to pay most attention to those hosts reported at the > first day. > > Thanks all for your tips, I'll report those hosts. I'm trying to look at both sets of #s ... <http://www.bsdstats.org/os_report.php> I think its more from paranoia at the start of all this, when we got that slew of false reports in ... I'm not so sure that that paranoia is still as valid, but it doesn't hurt either :) - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdMzn4QvfyHIvDvMRAhlkAJ0ZShdNFd+o4YRrpgpn+AHQmgVoGQCgsvYN AD+mYuZdom4fIbpVpNYKo5o= =v1HC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats report for Jan 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What a fantastic month December turned out to be ... overall, "1st of Month" reporting (hosts reporting within the first 24 hours of the month) is up 64% from Dec to Jan ... ... and, looking at Overall reporting hosts for the month of December vs January, with us being just 24hours into the month, we are only down 6.8% in January from the total of December, so this month should hopefully look really good to. PC-BSD fixed a bug in their CD last month, which is reflected in their numbers ... they wrote /var/db/bsdstats to the CD, so all hosts were being reported as the same one ... so that's why the huge jump in their "1st of Month" report ... Thanks to all that are participating ... for those just tuning in, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... there was a new version put up (v5.3, already in FreeBSD ports) over the past little while that extends the reporting for the FreeBSD ports system ... I have no experience with any of the other *BSD ports systems, but if someone would like to submit a patch to include theirs, please feel free. It is another purely optional report that gives numbers of ports in use, including version numbers, for the various software packages. DragonFly 10 11 10% 6 11 83% FreeBSD 3867 3586 -7% 2116 3383 59% MirBSD 4 1 -75% 0 0 -100% NetBSD128106 -17% 79 96 21% OpenBSD101 77 -23% 74 69 -6% PC-BSD4544754% 118017900% Overall 4564 4256 -6% 2276 3739 64% - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFmdCp4QvfyHIvDvMRAqe/AKCdIGmZ65ti4Rnv9RGJxjdKS5stvQCfc9v1 xfdGCSlidcUbpaRzrDgnSIg= =4D9z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... Thanks to all that are participating ... for those just tuning in, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... there was a new version put up (v5.3, already in FreeBSD ports) over the past little while that extends the reporting for the FreeBSD ports system ... I have no experience with any of the other *BSD ports systems, but if someone would like to submit a patch to include theirs, please feel free. It is another purely optional report that gives numbers of ports in use, including version numbers, for the various software packages. FebMar % Chg DesktopBSD 9 13 44% 8 13 62% DragonFly 17 10 -41% 12 10 -16% FreeBSD 4297 4147 -3% 3719 38904% MidnightBSD 3 1 -66% 0 1 -100% MirBSD 13 3 -76% 0 0 -100% NetBSD126116 -7% 99 97 -2% OpenBSD 94 82 -12% 64 73 14% PC-BSD 4223765 -81% 151303 100% Overall 8782 5137 -41% 4053 43878% - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6HnX4QvfyHIvDvMRArHcAJoCTG5qxniyCX4pBO4BUqaFWkZyrgCdFSRU ii1pXBhv+FjueDEzWHaCddc= =eWFN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD user statistics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:00:16 -0300 Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:10:08 +1000 > Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So Australia has the highest number of BSD installations, that's quite >> surprising! > > No offense, but as bsdstats is not installed by default, it means that > Australia has the highest number of _bsdstat_ installations. The PC-BSD folks have it installed by default, which is why they hold the higest spot for the US, and are fast approaching FreeBSD overall ... Someone was looking at adding install/activate bsdstats to sysinstall for new installations, but don't think it went anywhere past the talking stage ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG1PFJ4QvfyHIvDvMRAnhxAKCkzTZkObXz+Jh0aNJpNSPuD5Wy3ACdF/y0 sJWeK/I8auTKyt/CuARPpCU= =PXd4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD user statistics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Highest number of *reported* installations ... god, if there are only 10k BSD installations out there, we are doing something seriously wrong ... Number of reporting systems for the past 6 months, though: 2007-03-01 00:00:00 | 10137 2007-04-01 00:00:00 | 9753 2007-05-01 00:00:00 | 9705 2007-06-01 00:00:00 | 9690 2007-07-01 00:00:00 | 10765 2007-08-01 00:00:00 | 10730 - --On Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:10:08 +1000 Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So Australia has the highest number of BSD installations, that's quite > surprising! > > 2007/8/1, Chad Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Chad, >> >> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org/ also in ports/sysutils/bsdstats. >> >> On 7/31/07, Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Are there any projects out there collecting data on numbers of FreeBSD >> > users? I'm interested in pretty much anything along those lines, >> > including analogs to Fedora's "smolt" reporting software, the Linux >> > Counter <http://counter.li.org/>, and so on. >> > >> > If not . . . is there any sense that such a project would be useful to >> > the community? I might consider getting at least a web-based >> > self-reporting thing like the Linux Counter project set up, if that seems >> > like something the community would want/need and doesn't already exist. >> > >> > What I'm really looking for, though, is any existing efforts to count >> > FreeBSD users, even if such efforts are prone to error. >> > >> > -- >> > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] >> > Baltasar Gracian: "A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from >> > his friends." >> > ___ >> > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > " >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Chad M. Gross >> Executive Director >> 5Linx Independent Representative >> Office: 585-735-4090 >> Cell: 585-472-4346 >> Web: www.5linx.net/evolutionsolutions >> ___ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> > > > -- > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG1PDE4QvfyHIvDvMRAozgAJ9+5mAudvt1IUQekixjZQb9AyN9+wCdG5aa yvweqvlUKnDCU6s2vuhfZqc= =GL+L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats Statistics for Aug, 2007 ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Although I should send this out more often then I do, last month was a particularly good month, with *everyone* except for NetBSD going up in numbers ... First off all, for those that aren't aware: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." Through interaction with several system administrators out there, from a security / anonymity perspective, we have tried to design things such that we save nothing in the database that could be used to compromise your servers ... no hostname, no IP ... The stats have also been designed to allow for multiple reporting by the same host each month (ie. rebooting your desktop), so it doesn't have to be run just on the first of the month. The web site, although it looks good, is incomplete at this time ... Anthony, our 'webmaster' has been a wee bit pre-occupied the past little while, but hopes to be able to dive back in again by the end of the month, and clean up some of the reports. To date, we have the following *BSD "distributions" reporting in: DesktopBSD DragonFly FreeBSD GNU/kFreeBSD MidnightBSD MirBSD NetBSD OpenBSD PC-BSD PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. And that's the "sales pitch" ... over the past few months, we've broken the 11,000k host mark ... Since we don't have any 'trend reports' on the site yet, please feel free to visit <http://bsdstats.org/os_report.php?lastmonth> to see changes from July -> August ... But, overall for August: DesktopBSD+152.7% DragonFly + 5.3% FreeBSD + 2.7% GNU/kFreeBSD +150.0% MidnightBSD +100.0% MirBSD+190.0% NetBSD- 5.5% OpenBSD + 13.5% PC-BSD+ 0.2% === + 5.1% If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more reporters :) - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG23x04QvfyHIvDvMRAg6zAJsFKf1PBwnid5Y2PHOmYDBA87ksuACeMrpt MGfVhInjKFbuYfi4c6GPbcA= =mzYj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Percentage Change in September from August: Overall +12.8% Broken down as: DesktopBSD-12.4% ( 542 hosts) DragonFly 0.0% ( 20 hosts) FreeBSD - 7.4% (5008 hosts) GNU/kFreeBSD -20.0% ( 4 hosts) MidnightBSD +50.0% ( 3 hosts) MirBSD-55.2% ( 13 hosts) NetBSD+21.2% ( 126 hosts) OpenBSD -15.5% ( 71 hosts) PC-BSD+38.3% (6980 hosts) Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. Since we don't have any 'trend reports' on the site yet, please feel free to visit <http://bsdstats.org/os_report.php?lastmonth> to see changes from July -> August ... If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHBGAL4QvfyHIvDvMRAhfyAJ433XfF7O4GaYcA1BfJ5w64WgZYuQCghU7G E8gV6yda7KvgWfc9/iLuitM= =kyS9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, October 05, 2007 13:05:56 +0100 Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] >> Percentage Change in September from August: >> >>Overall +12.8% > [...] >>FreeBSD - 7.4% (5008 hosts) > > Numbers have gone down as to what FreeBSD is concerned. Actually, so far this month, they've gone up 0.3% (and its only middle of month) ... it does fluctuate from month to month ... > I think it's because the bsdstats script is becoming a bit of a pain... > - The script keeps being changed and updated... Pardon? I have very rarely changed it ... I committed a change on Aug 29th to fix a problem with install.sh generating an error, and the last commit before that was on April 30th to clean up a bunch of portlint warnings ... prior to that, it was modified Dec 9th ... so there is about 4 months between updates ... > - The script now wants to run on startup, which is a pain. Why? What was wrong > with monthly reports? Why the haste? In my case it runs before an HTTP proxy > is up and running... I had to disable it. Why on earth enabled by default? > That's not what most ports do... The FreeBSD user is usually expected to > manually enable the port after installing it. ... we had several ppl reporting issues where they were using it on desktop's where the desktop was shut down over night, and would therefore *never* get reported ... if you are running a server, by all means, disable it in /etc/rc.conf ... Oddly enough, when I did add the /etc/rc.conf option, it was asking if you wanted to enable it there or not ... now that you point it out, am looking into it, since it was meant to be optional ... in fact, will add a note to the question that states that enabling in /etc/rc.conf is meant for desktop/laptops that aren't necessarily 'always on', not for servers that are ... thanks for pointing this one out, I didn't realize ... > While a lot of us understands the interest of this, and even takes the time to > take a look at how it's done, we also don't have the time to keep peting it > every time it changes behaviour. The first reaction might be uninstall the > port. Changing behaviour? Other then cleaning up some port code itself, and adding the /etc/rc.conf (which only affects things the first time installed), there has been no change in behaviour since ... December, from what I can tell, and the only change of behaviour then was to actually report non-configured devices that pciconf files ... so not 100% certain what you are talking about concerning 'changing behavioiur' ... > Also, I think the enabled by default thing is a very bad idea. Consider when > you're deploying a BSD in an enterprise environment; not everybody might > understand imediatly that it would be beneficial to have that thing reporting > automatically and by default... I don't believe anyone has advocated for 'enabled by default' in FreeBSD ... one of these days it would be nice if it was an install option in sysinstall, but that would again be purely opt-in, not on by default ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHFC/34QvfyHIvDvMRAqUfAKDP0LrlDNWqccdjMFitLCFB2Cj/EACfepiZ 2zJSUsvCDclGlaiI0Twi/rQ= =OyPU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, October 05, 2007 13:08:54 -0600 Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have any problem with running on start-up, or daily, or whatever > (as long as it's not in constant communication with the mothership, > sucking up bandwidth and system resources). I just wish that, succeed or > fail, it wasn't so damned slow. I don't need my bootup time or my > networking restart time slowed down by several minutes. I'll look into what i can do to speed things up ... see if I can shave some time off of the updates itself ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHFDCz4QvfyHIvDvMRAtKUAJ4o90gLUM/3sMZh5vf2TKEJtNS/ewCgtG5V e5UVWOQzCW7EJ1CyaA41kbg= =8g19 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, October 16, 2007 00:28:55 -0300 "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oddly enough, when I did add the /etc/rc.conf option, it was asking if you > wanted to enable it there or not ... now that you point it out, am looking > into it, since it was meant to be optional ... in fact, will add a note to > the question that states that enabling in /etc/rc.conf is meant for > desktop/laptops that aren't necessarily 'always on', not for servers that > are ... thanks for pointing this one out, I didn't realize ... I'm not sure why we merged it that 'if enabled in periodic.conf, also enable in /etc/rc.conf', but I've pulled that back out and made it a seperate optional, with a message explaining that that feature is meant for desktop/laptop environments, where they aren't 'always on', especially when monthly runs ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHFD154QvfyHIvDvMRAuQJAKCem2cWREl2ugzbb/iWHio2MEb+4ACdHheO FLRopqf3FeVe3ETtRb2ETeI= =AeRd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, October 16, 2007 00:32:03 -0300 "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Friday, October 05, 2007 13:08:54 -0600 Chad Perrin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't have any problem with running on start-up, or daily, or whatever >> (as long as it's not in constant communication with the mothership, >> sucking up bandwidth and system resources). I just wish that, succeed or >> fail, it wasn't so damned slow. I don't need my bootup time or my >> networking restart time slowed down by several minutes. > > I'll look into what i can do to speed things up ... see if I can shave some > time off of the updates itself ... not the most perfect solution, but I've changed the script so that *if* it is run with the - -nodelay option (ie. how it runs from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bsdstats.sh, as well as when you install the port the first time), it will only report the Operating System, and neither devices or ports, even if configured ... The only time devices / ports will be reported is when run as part of monthly ... so, running it on reboot *should* be near invisible now, as devices/ports were the ones that took alot report in ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHFEBZ4QvfyHIvDvMRAqyZAJ0fRmgolh1hDOzJ6ad5nZWEirtpbgCg4YYH rtMJ7+Tya7AMfWrHhBpTosc= =AIM3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 These are all on the TODO ... our 'webmaster' went and decided to get married, so has had limited time with getting the 'dead links' and more advanced reporting in place ... now that he's finally gotten past the honeymoon period, and once he gets things caught up again, he'll be diving back into getting the site finished ... - --On Tuesday, October 16, 2007 22:45:03 +0100 Gerard van Essen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a side note: > > When you click on "platform" or "trends" you get an "URL not found" error. > > Suggestion: > It would be nice to see data from previous months on the website as well. > > Thanks > > Gerard > FreeBSD - Reliable, Flexible and Secure <http://fbsd.wordpress.com> > > > On 10/16/07, Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:38:49AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> > >> > not the most perfect solution, but I've changed the script so that *if* >> it is >> > run with the >> > - -nodelay option (ie. how it runs from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bsdstats.sh, >> as well >> > as when you install the port the first time), it will only report the >> Operating >> > System, and neither devices or ports, even if configured ... >> > >> > The only time devices / ports will be reported is when run as part of >> monthly >> > ... so, running it on reboot *should* be near invisible now, as >> devices/ports >> > were the ones that took alot report in ... >> >> Thanks much. I appreciate the effort. >> >> -- >> CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] >> MacUser, Nov. 1990: "There comes a time in the history of any project when >> it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production." >> ___ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> " >> > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHFU5W4QvfyHIvDvMRAmSeAJ9QbNQxT/wzFYtcAYR4jqXF8UksiQCff89p VaSoVZO6QLvhsmj10L0R4ng= =DNpZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, October 16, 2007 22:38:53 +0100 Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] >> Actually, so far this month, they've gone up 0.3% (and its only middle of >> month) ... it does fluctuate from month to month ... >> > > Just out of curiosity, on what criteria do you clean up your list? Maybe > you're cleaning it up too often, no? Clean up our list? > Clearly bsdstats is reaching stability. But consider that when you have a port > update, you don't know if it was the program which was changed or just the > installer. I've tried to make any 'script changes' result in a version change, while 'installer' changes are a PortRevision ... I just screwed that up by up'ng portrevision when I did the reporting speed up change to the script :( > You have just commited another set of changes. I respect your decision of > commiting the changes. > On the other hand, I'm also not too keen on ports which require user > intervention on install, because of batch installs and upgrades. Actually, the Makefile was long ago extended to *not* be interactive on either BATCH or PATCH_BUILDING installs ... and, after the initial install, unless you've wipe'd out either your /etc/periodic.conf or /etc/rc.cofn files, will never (or should never) ask you any more questions ... the only time that *that* has ever changed was when I added the interactive 'do you want to enable in /etc/rc.conf?' to the installer ... We have tried to cover *most* concerns that ppl have brought up ... > I mean, we all have to do it for such basic things such as xdm or linux > compatibility. If every FreeBSD user is "required" to do such configuration > changes for those basic ports, why not for bsdstats? There are actually other ports that are interactive in nature, and more often then bsdstats ... install postfix sometime, and then upgrade it? Every time you upgrade it, it will ask you if you want to enable it ... > When we, users, see a port changing, we do not know if it is only the install > which changed or the program behaviour which changed. > Certainly the install has changed behaviour, and that is troublesome for > portupgrades done in batch. Why? There has only been one time where a change should have affected portupgrade, and that was when we added the /etc/rc.conf interactive ... being that, it *should* be totally transparent ... > Thank you very much, and I certainly don't want to dictate the behaviour > of bsdstats or its pkg-install script. It was just a complaint, because the > idea is excellent but it did annoy me a little bit at some particular times. > It will still annoy me a little bit because of the yes/no in pkg-install; > maybe its me who should be more criterious before doing my portupgrades... There are only two times it should *ever* have prompted ppl ... on initial *manual* install, and, if they installed before the /etc/rc.conf changes, on a portupgrade after that ... beyond that, it should be more transparent then installing postfix ... If you do find a condition where you are being 'held up' on a portupgrade, do please let me know, as it shouldn't happen ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHFVUD4QvfyHIvDvMRAtL2AJ0Tr3+MjBGL7NG1Ng8SmUSSMKDMrgCg6Bkx 4+Ddun5YMf+8MktqyhY+kHo= =UAOz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, October 31, 2007 01:51:32 + Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the way, the numbers really are low... > We're probably somewhere between 1% and 5% of the hosts actually running > FreeBSD (guessing). If this number does not increase by a factor of ten, then > this technique won't do much good... These stats rely on ppl installing / enabling software ... with PC-BSD, this is done automatically, which is what is putting their numbers up so fast ... I don't know enough about sysinstall to get it so that it at least prompts new installs to install/enable, but I think that that is the next step ... still not 'enable by default' .. - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHKS8/4QvfyHIvDvMRAsWIAKDAaSPxo49pa4+cN6ZtwCfxc5bKCACfSXFA DP0t0kNT9lHlezQz5M7wF/Q= =hrxV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats Statistics for Sept, 2007 ... 12 769 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, October 31, 2007 01:32:35 + Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's at least one FreeBSD missing from your list, Gentoo/FreeBSD. > I'll try to get more people reporting. Only 10 in Portugal? What a shame... 2 > are mine... I know more FreeBSD hosts than that... Is there a way of differentiating Gentoo/kFreeBSD from Debian/kFreeBSD? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHKS3S4QvfyHIvDvMRApEVAJ9qHN9SIlFPhsQqPgG0Tsy1meGiAgCgyyCx 3Bb9bMhfnpj3swAGdiqzPtY= =VdjA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats: Stand up and be counted! -- November Statistics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Percentage Change in November from October: Overall - 2.5% Broken down as: DesktopBSD + 31.8% ( 737 hosts) DragonFly+ 9.5% ( 23 hosts) FreeBSD + 8.4% (5008 hosts) GNU/kFreeBSD -100.0% ( 0 hosts) MidnightBSD +133.3% ( 14 hosts) MirBSD - 28.6% ( 5 hosts) NetBSD + 7.2% ( 119 hosts) OpenBSD + 11.3% ( 79 hosts) PC-BSD - 13.5% (6551 hosts) Top 10 Countries reporting in (out of 85 Countries total): United States 19.0% Australia 13.0% Russian Federation 7.7% Germany6.0% Ukraine5.3% Brazil 4.1% Panama 3.9% Japan 3.7% France 2.6% United Kingdom 2.3% Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHVOvF4QvfyHIvDvMRArAWAKCvci/GKs8GLM1ksTeEtCx7xcCovACfeGdH 31y5PAE7KFdxzlUYMsBy96k= =9dDO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: bsdstats low numbers this month
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 18:48:26 +0200 Toomas Aas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The numbers for this month at www.bsdstats.org seem strangely low. There are > currently only 1645 systems listed. There was only one FreeBSD system listed > from Estonia, while I personally have more than one system (in Estonia) which > did report in on January 1st using the monthly periodic script. Just now I > re-ran the periodic script manually on one system and the number of FreeBSD > systems in Estonia instantly doubled :) > > Maybe there is some change-of-year bug in the bsdstats website code? No, failed monitoring on one of the reporting servers ... we added a second circuit onto our network in '07 to deal with some DDoS issues, and moved our secondary reporting server onto that circuit end of Dec, and failed to notice that it wasn't connecting properly to the database server ... Everything is fixed now, but we lost the '1st of the month' data that went through that reporting server :( I'm working on fixing the stats, as someone else suggested, so that we're dealing with 'last 30 days' (or even 60) vs 'this month', which will hopefully make the reported stats a bit less 'jumpy' ... working on that one tonight ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHgFv24QvfyHIvDvMRAjsmAKCg5lTr9IG40lIJs2/ox2NxBPVFaQCgv77k b+BQ5RBbbEkCoY/VyD6RQoA= =/aOO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: bsdstats low numbers this month
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There, I've just modified the code so that it reports on distinct hosts over the past 60 days, vs just this past month ... for those that *may* have reported several times but have changed their OS (in theory, the only way that could happen is *if* they save/copy their /var/db/bsdstats file across a re-build, mind you), their last reported operating system is what will show up ... This should make the statistics a bit more 'static', since we aren't reporting 'from zero' at the start of each month ... - --On Sunday, January 06, 2008 00:41:26 -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 18:48:26 +0200 Toomas Aas > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The numbers for this month at www.bsdstats.org seem strangely low. There are >> currently only 1645 systems listed. There was only one FreeBSD system listed >> from Estonia, while I personally have more than one system (in Estonia) which >> did report in on January 1st using the monthly periodic script. Just now I >> re-ran the periodic script manually on one system and the number of FreeBSD >> systems in Estonia instantly doubled :) >> >> Maybe there is some change-of-year bug in the bsdstats website code? > > No, failed monitoring on one of the reporting servers ... we added a second > circuit onto our network in '07 to deal with some DDoS issues, and moved our > secondary reporting server onto that circuit end of Dec, and failed to notice > that it wasn't connecting properly to the database server ... > > Everything is fixed now, but we lost the '1st of the month' data that went > through that reporting server :( > > I'm working on fixing the stats, as someone else suggested, so that we're > dealing with 'last 30 days' (or even 60) vs 'this month', which will > hopefully make the reported stats a bit less 'jumpy' ... working on that one > tonight ... > > - > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFHgFv24QvfyHIvDvMRAjsmAKCg5lTr9IG40lIJs2/ox2NxBPVFaQCgv77k > b+BQ5RBbbEkCoY/VyD6RQoA= > =/aOO > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHgHTl4QvfyHIvDvMRAmBkAJoCv0TtQ4ENHrz2403J8ymqkUfpmQCgkcvM gf6Z+K7mXaEqGty+moabOS0= =Pskv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[BSDStats] Slight change in summary reporting ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've just modified the code so that it reports on distinct hosts over the past 60 days, vs just this past month ... for those that *may* have reported several times but have changed their OS (in theory, the only way that could happen is *if* they save/copy their /var/db/bsdstats file across a re-build, mind you), their last reported operating system is what will show up ... This should make the statistics a bit more 'static', since we aren't reporting 'from zero' at the start of each month ... To view the current statistics, check out: http://www.bsdstats.org ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHgHVO4QvfyHIvDvMRAtSiAKDk32zdiiNCBU3dv3+Dr6aGzZLGRgCghhMe mmvlJX5MbYOXxwhoJyadeSE= =4inG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats: February Statistics - 18 494 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of March 7th, 2008, the project is seeing 18 494 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: DesktopBSD 3 242 hosts DragonFly 27 hosts FreeBSD 6 260 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 5 hosts MidnightBSD 6 hosts MirBSD 14 hosts NetBSD 109 hosts OpenBSD 56 hosts PC-BSD 8 775 hosts Top 10 Countries reporting in (out of 85 Countries total): United States 23.5% Russian Federation 7.4% Australia 6.4% Brazil 6.3% Germany6.2% France 3.4% Ukraine3.2% Japan 3.2% United Kingdom 3.0% Canada 2.7% Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFH0gtP4QvfyHIvDvMRAm1PAJ0XjcSfic/7909xzOLwQu0/3gty5wCeJU6A aDhVlpvMy9flKZYl3Cyysi0= =kmn9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: February Statistics - 18 494 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Go under the individual OS ... the site needs a bunch of work as far as the sub-pages are concerned :( - --On Saturday, March 08, 2008 04:36:55 -0800 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Marc, > > These links don't work. > > Drivers/HW Stats CPU Stats Port Stats > > Do you know why? > > > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ > > - Original Message >> From: Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thorsten Glaser >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 6:43:11 AM >> Subject: BSDstats: February Statistics - 18 494 Hosts Reported In >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> As of March 7th, 2008, the project is seeing 18 494 hosts reporting in, with >> a break down as follows: >> >>DesktopBSD 3 242 hosts >>DragonFly 27 hosts >>FreeBSD 6 260 hosts >>GNU/kFreeBSD 5 hosts >>MidnightBSD 6 hosts >>MirBSD 14 hosts >>NetBSD 109 hosts >>OpenBSD 56 hosts >>PC-BSD 8 775 hosts >> >> Top 10 Countries reporting in (out of 85 Countries total): >> >>United States 23.5% >>Russian Federation 7.4% >>Australia 6.4% >>Brazil 6.3% >>Germany6.2% >>France 3.4% >>Ukraine3.2% >>Japan 3.2% >>United Kingdom 3.0% >>Canada 2.7% >> >> >> Project Objective: >> >> "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy >> and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." >> >> >> PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to >> enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. >> >> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to >> set things up. >> >> If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the >> report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, >> exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that >> is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports >> reporting are 100% optional ... >> >> For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the >> word, we need more ... >> >> >> - >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL >> PROTECTED] >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) >> >> iD8DBQFH0gtP4QvfyHIvDvMRAm1PAJ0XjcSfic/7909xzOLwQu0/3gty5wCeJU6A >> aDhVlpvMy9flKZYl3Cyysi0= >> =kmn9 >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> ___ >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> > > > > > > > > _ > ___ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFH0pLi4QvfyHIvDvMRAuY3AJ43f2ZGevI95d1sZpLVnmxaFWJ7mQCguENc Py6KYxhLKWz62flZ4RlRH2Q= =Vw0j -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 121 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 5 639 Russian Federation 1 653 Germany 1 489 Australia 1 314 Brazil 1 242 Japan 1 004 France823 United Kingdom822 Ukraine 790 Canada747 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... Thanks to the folks at PC-BSD, we have a new PHP programmer that will be working with Antony Mawer towards cleaning up / finishing some of the outstanding areas of the web site, so expect to see some improvements in statistics reporting over the next few weeks. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhHeiAACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvN9RACcCcuRMnTeEhOz4XlJMcVRBm7U X1cAoOGk6ZvG3ab5DVpjKeIEokSEwlYY =cC+C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > be submitted. That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ... Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhITOwACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvO/yACg7Ph15XYty0J1tP+jXNs4Fzp3 CFwAoI/AgvbWotWJAUZJZ23aAhiyK993 =9QMv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:19:40 -0700 Murray Stokely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. But, there is nothing on the site (or in the database, for that matter), that links a host (or set of) to any specific domain, IP or company ... netcraft does this, we don't ... so there is no way fo rsomeone to know *what*, or how many, a competitor was running ... this was as key design requirement put forth by oodles of security conscious admin on these lists when the project first started ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhIlr8ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNysQCdGC/QlbytX7vipTSKZVWj9273 8BgAn0J9w9sbGiGtsLoiWP7WBjgIRH3S =gal1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, June 06, 2008 08:56:01 +0200 Julian Stacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their >> own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors >> to know how many machines they are running. > > Some companies wont want their competitors, &/or suppliers/ > clients to even know What OS's they run, let alone how many. > > Some government departments too (whose `competitors' could include > foreign governments, terrorists, thieves, & civil liberties groups etc). Again, there is nothing on the site, or in the database, that links the host to any specific organization, or even IP ... month to month reporting is based on two generated 'keys' that are stored on the remote host, and passed to the reporting server, not the hostname/IP ... This is *very* anonymous, for exactly the reasons you state above ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL4AkACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNTrQCePqoZ+v8VbAOsaBWoGsVFCDUy eCMAoN1ppPDHpX3lVzGS7UniJ44zMZsT =ovjT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Under FreeBSD, it prompts you during the install process itself ... - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 19:52:04 -0300 Gonzalo Nemmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 05 June 2008 17:30:36 Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. >> > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable >> > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD >> > that there are FreeBSD? >> > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to >> > be submitted. >> >> That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues >> with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly >> notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out >> about it ... >> >> Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so >> although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool >> ... > > I'm one of those that just found out ! > Will install bsdstats now =D > Any tips on how to configure will be a welcome addition since there seems to > be no manpage on bsdstats :( > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bsdstats&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath > =FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE&format=html > > Thanks! > -- > Blessings > Gonzalo Nemmi > > _______ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL3vcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvPrnQCbB2PjfqSZJozoAnNlKdvU2/Ac 0boAn0Lc3OWqVqG4SVMYfBrq5x/FgKu2 =plVQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Over the past year, there have been a few that had talked about submitting a patch for this, but time is always an issue ... I've never looked into sysinstall itself, so wouldn't even know where to start ... anyone? - --On Friday, June 06, 2008 02:12:54 +0300 Alaksiej C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > >> > >> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, >> with a >> > break down as follows: >> > >> > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts >> > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts >> > DesktopBSD2 662 hosts >> > NetBSD 108 hosts >> > MirBSD 68 hosts >> > OpenBSD 59 hosts >> > DragonFly27 hosts >> > MidnightBSD 22 hosts >> > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts >> > >> >> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the >> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's >> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the >> other participants (6 more now) are:-) >> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. >> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable >> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD >> that there are FreeBSD? >> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to >> be submitted. >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >> "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" >> --from a /. post >> ___ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> " >> > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL3zEACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvPtqACg0EtWbVIqAXEO0upEACOPFgPl A6AAnir1UKdTUVmY638yUEO+8DJHT13M =75VK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 17 454 hosts FreeBSD 5 526 hosts DesktopBSD1 919 hosts NetBSD 86 hosts MirBSD 21 hosts OpenBSD 55 hosts DragonFly26 hosts MidnightBSD 26 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 6 082 Russian Federation 1 836 Germany 1 586 Australia 1 341 Ukraine 997 France930 Japan 898 United Kingdom791 Canada767 Brazil729 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 01:10:02 +0100 Bernt Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc G. Fournier skrev: >> As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ >> hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > There are errors on your homepage > > 6,072 is a lot less then 500. Pardon? I don't see either # on the home page .. *puzzled look* - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPo3EACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvP3CwCeOE++67wohEqs0ahwWyMtFPpo UgAAn2vgaNlYDqSba42ztrSg8CtSyc8/ =s18z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 16:01:41 -1000 Al Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aloha, > > I have 10 FreeBSD servers and desktops in use here in Hawaii. > > These are not on the list as I only have 4 servers that are up 24/7 and they > are fire walled off with pf. > > The 6 others are on a lan behind a Linux Freesco Firewall. Only 2 on 24/7 the > rest are on an as used boot up basis. > > How can I get them Listed? Using FreeBSD as a reference point, the port, when it installs, allows you to enable two methods of reporting: monthly (out of periodic) and on reboot ... so that covers the 4 that aren't up 24/7 ... Next, the reporting is not based on your IP ... in fact, to try and address security concerns, we do not store any information such as IP or hostname ... when you run the stats the first time, it generates a distinct key that is used for reporting and is stored on your host for future reporting to identify you ... Finally, for those dealing with firewalls, the script was written to make use of a PROXY server for reporting, so that no holes have to be opened up for an individual host to connect to the rver ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPtZsACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNo4wCeJ3diXiZkazxtM1t9wLTb5tc7 uvgAoIxbMIEG2w3V6uvQBMW+dY7i7nn5 =MUtC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Its a voluntary reporting ... I know with both PC-BSD, reporting is on by default .. with FreeBSD, its a simple 'make install' in ports ... with NetBSD/OpenBSD, I suspect its purely manual, so a bit more work involved ... Both NetBSD / OpenBSD #s have been increasing though, just not as fast as the others ... - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 15:12:46 -0800 Don Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thorsten Glaser; > Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In > > > As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ > hosts > reporting in, with a break down as follows: > >PC-BSD 17 454 hosts >FreeBSD 5 526 hosts >DesktopBSD1 919 hosts >NetBSD 86 hosts >MirBSD 21 hosts >OpenBSD 55 hosts >DragonFly26 hosts >MidnightBSD 26 hosts >GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts > > We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top > 10 > being: > >United States 6 082 >Russian Federation 1 836 >Germany 1 586 >Australia 1 341 >Ukraine 997 >France930 >Japan 898 >United Kingdom791 >Canada767 >Brazil729 > > Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org > > Project Objective: > > "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy > and > marketing of the *BSD operating systems." > > > PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to > enabled, > while the rest have to be enabled manually. > > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to > set > things up. > > If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the > report > script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is > > being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, > > and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are > 100% > optional ... > > For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the > word, we need more ... > > > If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... > > -- > Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 > > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPoWYACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNjvACeJvROm9YrnENUroh5EF1BsGKw 0YsAoMIQoRnBnkFwGTcZG2cv/4KlkDmF =blyH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, David Wolfskill wrote: It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional gateway were set up (mail => news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list. In case it is needed, I do run a news server, and would be most willing to put a uni-directional posting filter onto that mailing list, so that mail gets there ... just let me know if this is what is decided / needed ... ---- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
BSDStats: Project Status on May 13th, 2010
Status: Over the past two weeks, there has been alot of work performed on the backend, including fixing a few "bugs" that were recently reported. As a result of using HAProxy to load balance and help ensure uptime for reporting clients, someone recently reported that although their sent in their report, their country wasn't going up in the 'Countries' states. This bug has been fixed (HAProxy was reporting Proxy IP vs Client IP) and we reset the stats period to 1st of May, causing a sharp drop in #s that has slowly been climbing back up again. The result of the change is that now Panama isn't the largest distribution of PC-BSD anymore, but the USofA is back in that lead, with Russia quickly following. Stats Summary: As of May 13th, 2010 (based on reporting ~2 weeks of reporting period since fix) , the project has 3 733 hosts that have reported in, broken down as follows: PC-BSD2 357 hosts FreeBSD 1 243 hosts DesktopBSD 78 hosts NetBSD 34 hosts OpenBSD 12 hosts DragonFly 9 hosts MirBSD0 hosts MidnightBSD 0 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 0 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 88 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 752 Panama332 Russian Federation332 Australia 271 Germany 204 Ukraine 173 Japan 121 Canada101 Brazil 89 United Kingdom 89 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. There is now a man page / document that has been created, that contains a full description of the project, as well as the steps we take to ensure the anonymity of those reporting while maintaining the individuality of the reporting machines. This can be found at: http://www.bsdstats.org/bsdstats-8.html Project Uptime: In the beginning, there were issues with accessibility of the servers, due to only having one reporting server. We have since moved to a distributed cluster using HAProxy to load balance between two physical servers, with a third one coming online soon. http://www.bsdstats.org isn't running on this new cluster yet, but work is underway to get that moved over as well, which we hope to have accomplished over the next couple of days. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
