BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 121 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 5 639 Russian Federation 1 653 Germany 1 489 Australia 1 314 Brazil 1 242 Japan 1 004 France823 United Kingdom822 Ukraine 790 Canada747 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... Thanks to the folks at PC-BSD, we have a new PHP programmer that will be working with Antony Mawer towards cleaning up / finishing some of the outstanding areas of the web site, so expect to see some improvements in statistics reporting over the next few weeks. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhHeiAACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvN9RACcCcuRMnTeEhOz4XlJMcVRBm7U X1cAoOGk6ZvG3ab5DVpjKeIEokSEwlYY =cC+C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a > break down as follows: > > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > DesktopBSD2 662 hosts > NetBSD 108 hosts > MirBSD 68 hosts > OpenBSD 59 hosts > DragonFly27 hosts > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the other participants (6 more now) are:-) Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > be submitted. That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ... Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhITOwACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvO/yACg7Ph15XYty0J1tP+jXNs4Fzp3 CFwAoI/AgvbWotWJAUZJZ23aAhiyK993 =9QMv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
On Thursday 05 June 2008 17:30:36 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > > that there are FreeBSD? > > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > > be submitted. > > That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues > with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly > notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out > about it ... > > Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so > although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool > ... I'm one of those that just found out ! Will install bsdstats now =D Any tips on how to configure will be a welcome addition since there seems to be no manpage on bsdstats :( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bsdstats&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE&format=html Thanks! -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, > with a > > break down as follows: > > > > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > > DesktopBSD2 662 hosts > > NetBSD 108 hosts > > MirBSD 68 hosts > > OpenBSD 59 hosts > > DragonFly27 hosts > > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > > > > I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the > number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's > something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the > other participants (6 more now) are:-) > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > be submitted. > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] > " > ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
Hi Marc, can you please post these individually to different lists next time rather than one massive cross-post? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? Yes I should think that is pretty obvious. =) I would expect that Yahoo! alone has ~2 orders of magnitude more FreeBSD servers than what is represented there. These numbers have basically no correlation with the number of installed instances of these operating systems. Anyone interested in this effort should submit patches to optionally install/enable this functionality in the installer of the various operating systems - Murray ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that number really give you? The number of people using sysinstall that choose to participate in this program? Somewhat interesting I guess, but that number is very different from the number of computers running FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors to know how many machines they are running. The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to champion. - Murray On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > >> > >> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, >> with a >> > break down as follows: >> > >> > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts >> > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts >> > DesktopBSD2 662 hosts >> > NetBSD 108 hosts >> > MirBSD 68 hosts >> > OpenBSD 59 hosts >> > DragonFly27 hosts >> > MidnightBSD 22 hosts >> > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts >> > >> >> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the >> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's >> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the >> other participants (6 more now) are:-) >> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. >> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable >> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD >> that there are FreeBSD? >> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to >> be submitted. >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >> "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" >> --from a /. post >> ___ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> " >> > ___ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
IMHO, you are partly right. In regard of FreeBSD at all, right now, those numbers are misleading (it's not possible to use it for any research) and unimpressive (it's not possible to use it for PR). Yet, for the guys from PC-BSD team it is already useful. Their users quantity reflected by bsdstats should be almost correct. And it has some potential. If bsdstats will become more usual and numbers will grow, than *probably* it would be enough for some advertising, at least in the following form: Accordingly to bsdstats number of FreeBSD users has grown by 12%, blah-blah... And (let's dream :) ) some social thing could be incorporated in it, like voluntary registration in a global db, so you would be able to be connected by/connect to ppl, who runs FreeBSD in your location. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Murray Stokely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small > fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that > number really give you? The number of people using sysinstall that > choose to participate in this program? Somewhat interesting I guess, > but that number is very different from the number of computers running > FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. > > The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think > misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to > champion. > > - Murray > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. > > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of > > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> > Hash: SHA1 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, > >> with a > >> > break down as follows: > >> > > >> > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > >> > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > >> > DesktopBSD2 662 hosts > >> > NetBSD 108 hosts > >> > MirBSD 68 hosts > >> > OpenBSD 59 hosts > >> > DragonFly27 hosts > >> > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > >> > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > >> > > >> > >> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the > >> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's > >> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the > >> other participants (6 more now) are:-) > >> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > >> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > >> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > >> that there are FreeBSD? > >> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > >> be submitted. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > >> Nairobi,KE > >> +254733744121/+254722743223 > >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >> > >> "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > >> --from a /. post > >> ___ > >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> " > >> > > ___ > > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
On Thursday 05 June 2008 21:02:48 Alaksiej C wrote: > And (let's dream :) ) some social thing could be incorporated in it, like > voluntary registration in a global db, so you would be able to be connected > by/connect to ppl, who runs FreeBSD in your location. One of the coolest ideas I've heard in a long time ... -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:19:40 -0700 Murray Stokely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. But, there is nothing on the site (or in the database, for that matter), that links a host (or set of) to any specific domain, IP or company ... netcraft does this, we don't ... so there is no way fo rsomeone to know *what*, or how many, a competitor was running ... this was as key design requirement put forth by oodles of security conscious admin on these lists when the project first started ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhIlr8ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNysQCdGC/QlbytX7vipTSKZVWj9273 8BgAn0J9w9sbGiGtsLoiWP7WBjgIRH3S =gal1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
On Jun 5, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Alaksiej C wrote: I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. I'm sure patches would be gratefully accepted. Go for it. You just volunteered. -- Dan Langille -- http://www.langille.org/ ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
