[FUG-BR] Software Joker + Go no FreeBSD
Pessoal, Vi isso em outra lista, alguem tem experiencia nesta liguagem "go" e usa esse "joker" com squid ? achei interessante Segue o link: https://github.com/osmano807/joker -- Gustavo Freitas - Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd
Re: [FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD
Muito interessante. O pkg veio para substituir o pkg_* então, ví isso por aqui na lista mesmo. E sobre o Virtualbox no FreeBSD, como fica a performace? Utilizei ele muito rodando em Debian para ambientes de testes. Hoje em dia, apesar de ter menos recursos, utilizo o XEN no NetBSD para virtualização, nada a reclamar. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Márcio Elias wrote: > Ao ler este e-mail, até senti orgulho do meu trabalho...:D > > -- > Att. > __ > Márcio Elias Hahn do Nascimento > > Bacharel em Tecnologias da Informação e Comunicação - TIC > Cel: (55) 48-8469-1819 > Emails: marcioel...@bsd.com.br / marcioel...@gmail.com > Skype: marcioeliash...@hotmail.com > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Nilton Jose Rizzo >wrote: > > > > > > > Desculpem-me o cross-post mas vale a pena ler > > > > Rizzo > > -- Mensagem Encaminhada --- > > De:Sergio de Almeida Lenzi > > Para:freebsd-po...@freebsd.org > > Enviada:Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:07:04 -0300 > > Assunto:Few reasons to stay with BSD > > > > FreeBSD is still much better, > > > > until 7.X there was pkg_* for a system with few > > packages ( less than 100) it worked. but > > as the system goes beyound 1000 packages, pkg_* becomes > > very slow, and broken. > > > > pkg, solved the problem, of working with freebsd if you work > > WITH pkg, and not against. > > > > See my case, for example, I have hundreds of users, that runs > > 8.X, 9.X and now 10.X. all of them uses gnome 2.32 and software > > written from gtk2, glade2, python2 The system have more than > > 1000 packages, last count shows 1032.. and are updated once a > > week, everything works.. Some of them uses windows software > > that now runs on Virtualbox under FreeBSD. > > > > I have my OWN server (indeed, 2) for 9.X and 10.X, and all the other > > servers > > do is pkg upgrade -y sometimes they update about 1GB (in the case of > > libconv, for example) > > and everything works as expected.. > > > > If I used pkg_* plus portupgrade or portmaster in each server, that > > woud be > > impossible to mantain.. pkg really made FreeBSD usable for hundreds of > > servers. > > > > I have some linux on notebooks, that now the FreeBSD have KMS, are > > being > > moved to FreeBSD too. > > On the notebooks (using archlinux), kernel 3.12.3 the notebooks must > > have a > > "cold start" from time to time (once a day), if not, the disk access > > becomes too slow > > to the point it is useless.. so a cold start resolv the problem.. > > besides, the software layout > > that is now all in /usr/bin, the inittab is now systemd, the syslog is > > journal... and the > > file system is still ext4, as zfs for inux is not for production yet.. > > > > Today, as the machines are powerfull, you can buy an 32 core system > > with > > 1TB of memory, 12TB of disk for less than US$10,000. What you will > > do??? > > Install windows 8?? no way, windows 2012??? microsoft says it is > > unstable, > > 2008??? perhaps, 2003?? phased out.. > > > > how many users will you put in an Microsoft OS?? at what price??? > > > > A FreeBSD server running several windows 2008, can handle 200 users (20 > > users per OS) > > using Virtualbox and ISCSI. Never stops, never breaks, you can buy ONE > > windows 2008 and > > install the other 99 by cloning the machine. Here the EULA says I must > > use ONE windows 2008 > > licence in ONE machine, does not mention what to do if I Activate 100 > > time the SAME image of an OVA. or VHD. > > (the same for windows 2012). > > > > Linux is good??? for sure!!, but FreeBSD+ZFS is better.. > > > > ___ > > freebsd-po...@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > --- Fim da Mensagem Encaminhada --- > > > > - > > Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ > > Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd > > > - > Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ > Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd > - Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd
Re: [FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD
O exemplo de estabilidade do FreeBSD foi bom, mas o papinho dele sobre licenciamento foi meio deturpado. Apenas o 2008 Datacenter permite que vários hosts sejam criados com a mesma licença http://blogs.technet.com/b/mattmcspirit/archive/2008/11/13/licensing-windows-server-in-a-virtual-environment.aspx Esse papo de que uma "imagem" possui a licença portanto posso criar vários vservers, é o mesmo da gatonet: "Ah, mas o sinal tá no ar. Nao é pirataria quando o ar é publico. EU só compro o aparelho..." PS: Desculpem a continuação de top-posting da thread. Nícolas Wildner Analista de Infraestrutura de TI Transportes Bertolini Ltda. www.tbl.com.br - Mensagem original - > De: "ADIEL" > Para: "Lista Brasileira de Discussão sobre FreeBSD (FUG-BR)" > > Enviadas: Terça-feira, 25 de Março de 2014 15:18:20 > Assunto: Re: [FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD > > Muito interessante. O pkg veio para substituir o pkg_* então, ví isso > por > aqui na lista mesmo. > E sobre o Virtualbox no FreeBSD, como fica a performace? Utilizei > ele > muito rodando em Debian para ambientes de testes. > Hoje em dia, apesar de ter menos recursos, utilizo o XEN no NetBSD > para > virtualização, nada a reclamar. > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Márcio Elias > wrote: > > > Ao ler este e-mail, até senti orgulho do meu trabalho...:D > > > > -- > > Att. > > __ > > Márcio Elias Hahn do Nascimento > > > > Bacharel em Tecnologias da Informação e Comunicação - TIC > > Cel: (55) 48-8469-1819 > > Emails: marcioel...@bsd.com.br / marcioel...@gmail.com > > Skype: marcioeliash...@hotmail.com > > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Nilton Jose Rizzo > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Desculpem-me o cross-post mas vale a pena ler > > > > > > Rizzo > > > -- Mensagem Encaminhada --- > > > De:Sergio de Almeida Lenzi > > > Para:freebsd-po...@freebsd.org > > > Enviada:Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:07:04 -0300 > > > Assunto:Few reasons to stay with BSD > > > > > > FreeBSD is still much better, > > > > > > until 7.X there was pkg_* for a system with few > > > packages ( less than 100) it worked. but > > > as the system goes beyound 1000 packages, pkg_* becomes > > > very slow, and broken. > > > > > > pkg, solved the problem, of working with freebsd if you work > > > WITH pkg, and not against. > > > > > > See my case, for example, I have hundreds of users, that runs > > > 8.X, 9.X and now 10.X. all of them uses gnome 2.32 and software > > > written from gtk2, glade2, python2 The system have more than > > > 1000 packages, last count shows 1032.. and are updated once a > > > week, everything works.. Some of them uses windows software > > > that now runs on Virtualbox under FreeBSD. > > > > > > I have my OWN server (indeed, 2) for 9.X and 10.X, and all the > > > other > > > servers > > > do is pkg upgrade -y sometimes they update about 1GB (in the > > > case of > > > libconv, for example) > > > and everything works as expected.. > > > > > > If I used pkg_* plus portupgrade or portmaster in each server, > > > that > > > woud be > > > impossible to mantain.. pkg really made FreeBSD usable for > > > hundreds of > > > servers. > > > > > > I have some linux on notebooks, that now the FreeBSD have KMS, > > > are > > > being > > > moved to FreeBSD too. > > > On the notebooks (using archlinux), kernel 3.12.3 the notebooks > > > must > > > have a > > > "cold start" from time to time (once a day), if not, the disk > > > access > > > becomes too slow > > > to the point it is useless.. so a cold start resolv the problem.. > > > besides, the software layout > > > that is now all in /usr/bin, the inittab is now systemd, the > > > syslog is > > > journal... and the > > > file system is still ext4, as zfs for inux is not for production > > > yet.. > > > > > > Today, as the machines are powerfull, you can buy an 32 core > > > system > > > with > > > 1TB of memory, 12TB of disk for less than US$10,000. What you > > > will > > > do??? > > > Install windows 8?? no way, windows 2012??? microsoft says it is > > > unstable, > > > 2008??? perhaps, 2003?? phased out.. > > > > > > how many users will you put in an Microsoft OS?? at what > > > price??? > > > > > > A FreeBSD server running several windows 2008, can handle 200 > > > users (20 > > > users per OS) > > > using Virtualbox and ISCSI. Never stops, never breaks, you can > > > buy ONE > > > windows 2008 and > > > install the other 99 by cloning the machine. Here the EULA says > > > I must > > > use ONE windows 2008 > > > licence in ONE machine, does not mention what to do if I > > > Activate 100 > > > time the SAME image of an OVA. or VHD. > > > (the same for windows 2012). > > > > > > Linux is good??? for sure!!, but FreeBSD+ZFS is better.. > > > > > > ___ > > > freebsd-po...@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freeb
Re: [FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD
Virtualbox+geli(gstripe(gmirror +gmirror)) simplesmente sem comparação, claro que adoraria usar xen como dom0 mais o FreeBSD não suporta e netbsd é muito underground para mim!! Contudo tenho 9 vms sobre o VBox+FreBSD e estou satisfeito!! Att. Paulo Henrique Enviado do meu smartphone Sony Xperia™ ADIEL escreveu >Muito interessante. O pkg veio para substituir o pkg_* então, ví isso por >aqui na lista mesmo. >E sobre o Virtualbox no FreeBSD, como fica a performace? Utilizei ele >muito rodando em Debian para ambientes de testes. >Hoje em dia, apesar de ter menos recursos, utilizo o XEN no NetBSD para >virtualização, nada a reclamar. > > >On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Márcio Elias wrote: > >> Ao ler este e-mail, até senti orgulho do meu trabalho...:D >> >> -- >> Att. >> __ >> Márcio Elias Hahn do Nascimento >> >> Bacharel em Tecnologias da Informação e Comunicação - TIC >> Cel: (55) 48-8469-1819 >> Emails: marcioel...@bsd.com.br / marcioel...@gmail.com >> Skype: marcioeliash...@hotmail.com >> FreeBSD - The Power To Serve >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Nilton Jose Rizzo > >wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > Desculpem-me o cross-post mas vale a pena ler >> > >> > Rizzo >> > -- Mensagem Encaminhada --- >> > De:Sergio de Almeida Lenzi >> > Para:freebsd-po...@freebsd.org >> > Enviada:Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:07:04 -0300 >> > Assunto:Few reasons to stay with BSD >> > >> > FreeBSD is still much better, >> > >> > until 7.X there was pkg_* for a system with few >> > packages ( less than 100) it worked. but >> > as the system goes beyound 1000 packages, pkg_* becomes >> > very slow, and broken. >> > >> > pkg, solved the problem, of working with freebsd if you work >> > WITH pkg, and not against. >> > >> > See my case, for example, I have hundreds of users, that runs >> > 8.X, 9.X and now 10.X. all of them uses gnome 2.32 and software >> > written from gtk2, glade2, python2 The system have more than >> > 1000 packages, last count shows 1032.. and are updated once a >> > week, everything works.. Some of them uses windows software >> > that now runs on Virtualbox under FreeBSD. >> > >> > I have my OWN server (indeed, 2) for 9.X and 10.X, and all the other >> > servers >> > do is pkg upgrade -y sometimes they update about 1GB (in the case of >> > libconv, for example) >> > and everything works as expected.. >> > >> > If I used pkg_* plus portupgrade or portmaster in each server, that >> > woud be >> > impossible to mantain.. pkg really made FreeBSD usable for hundreds of >> > servers. >> > >> > I have some linux on notebooks, that now the FreeBSD have KMS, are >> > being >> > moved to FreeBSD too. >> > On the notebooks (using archlinux), kernel 3.12.3 the notebooks must >> > have a >> > "cold start" from time to time (once a day), if not, the disk access >> > becomes too slow >> > to the point it is useless.. so a cold start resolv the problem.. >> > besides, the software layout >> > that is now all in /usr/bin, the inittab is now systemd, the syslog is >> > journal... and the >> > file system is still ext4, as zfs for inux is not for production yet.. >> > >> > Today, as the machines are powerfull, you can buy an 32 core system >> > with >> > 1TB of memory, 12TB of disk for less than US$10,000. What you will >> > do??? >> > Install windows 8?? no way, windows 2012??? microsoft says it is >> > unstable, >> > 2008??? perhaps, 2003?? phased out.. >> > >> > how many users will you put in an Microsoft OS?? at what price??? >> > >> > A FreeBSD server running several windows 2008, can handle 200 users (20 >> > users per OS) >> > using Virtualbox and ISCSI. Never stops, never breaks, you can buy ONE >> > windows 2008 and >> > install the other 99 by cloning the machine. Here the EULA says I must >> > use ONE windows 2008 >> > licence in ONE machine, does not mention what to do if I Activate 100 >> > time the SAME image of an OVA. or VHD. >> > (the same for windows 2012). >> > >> > Linux is good??? for sure!!, but FreeBSD+ZFS is better.. >> > >> > ___ >> > freebsd-po...@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> > --- Fim da Mensagem Encaminhada --- >> > >> > - >> > Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ >> > Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd >> > >> - >> Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ >> Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd >> >- >Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ >Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd - Histórico: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/ Sair da lista: https://www.fug.com.br/mailman/listinfo/freebsd
