Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On 23/08/16 20:19, geneb wrote: EULAs have the same value as toilet paper and should be used for the same purpose. I for one, will use Delphi for whatever I like, and if Embarcadero has a problem with that, they're invited to kiss my ass. :) In which case I would suggest that you never release any software whether under a licence or not. For example. the GPL has some very useful clauses in it, such as: THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW.. WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION. The EULA exists to protect the rights of the author who may or may not be the vendor. This includes the right to demand an income from your work, to demand that others do not exploit your work for their own gain, and to protect you from the mis-use of your work. If you don't like a given EULA then don't buy or use the product. But the one thing that any software developer must do is to respect the whole concept of the EULA ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:40:06 +0800, you wrote: It should maybe be noted that this download apparently requires that you have Windows 10? Brian. > > >Maciej Izak wrote: >> Hi, >> >> finally we have simple way to test new syntax to improve FPC quality / >> $MODE DELPHI without spending $ on Delphi :) >> >> Probably limited time offer: >> >> https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter/promotional-download >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maciej Izak >> >Thanks a lot. >I wonder if there is any catch. >Anyway, I gave up Delphi after Delphi 5 and stick to FPC since then. >However, from time to time, I miss its lightning fast compiler and good >debugger. > >Dennis >___ >fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org >http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On 2016-08-24 09:04, brian wrote: > you have Windows 10? What!! Delphi still doesn’t support Linux, FreeBSD, RPi, Solaris, Haiku, OS/2, PlayStation, AIX and so forth. That’s no good. I'll rather stay with Free Pascal then. :-P Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
Am 24.08.2016 11:22 schrieb "Graeme Geldenhuys" < mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk>: > > On 2016-08-24 09:04, brian wrote: > > you have Windows 10? > > What!! Delphi still doesn’t support Linux, FreeBSD, RPi, Solaris, Haiku, > OS/2, PlayStation, AIX and so forth. That’s no good. > I'll rather stay with Free Pascal then. :-P I think he meant that you can't use am earlier version of Windows... Regards, Sven ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On 2016-08-24 10:38, Sven Barth wrote: > I think he meant that you can't use am earlier version of Windows... I know what he ment - hence the smiley face in my previous post. Humour is [sadly] often lost in email conversations. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] FPC trunk internal error 200310221
I have recently started seeing FPC internal error 200310221 when compiling a changed program with lazarus using the trunk fpc version. If I do a build, the problem goes away, only to recur after a random number of changes/recompiles. The program I am working on is quite large, so it is not obvious how to generate a simple test case for reporting. Suggestions? I managed to catch the error in gdb, but the info is not that helpful: Free Pascal Compiler version 3.1.1 [2016/08/23] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2016 by Florian Klaempfl and others (1002) Target OS: Linux for x86-64 (3104) Compiling pgopher.lpr Breakpoint 3, RESOLVE (this=...) at symtype.pas:823 823 internalerror(200310221); (gdb) where #0 RESOLVE (this=...) at symtype.pas:823 #1 0x021700010008 in ?? () #2 0x7fff9e00 in ?? () #3 0x77754f00 in ?? () #4 0x7fffe391fac0 in ?? () #5 0x in ?? () (gdb) info locals result = 0x0 RESOLVE = 0x0 RESULT = 0x0 PM = 0x7fffe6e2f2c0 TYP = 228 IDX = 929 I = 140737035875040 LEN = 8 DATA = {1, 0, 23, 2, 0, 0, 0, 158, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 79, 117, 247, 255, 127, 0, 0, 192, 250, 145, 227, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 160, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 232, 227, 211, 226, 255, 127, 0, 0, 121, 135, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 224, 55, 255, 255, 255, 127, 0, 0, 128, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 232, 227, 211, 226, 255, 127, 0, 0, 216, 25, 113, 231, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 26, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 254, 126, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 224, 26, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 236, 140, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 180, 206, 226, 255, 127, 0, 0, 249, 137, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 48, 79, 117, 247, 255, 127, 0, 0, 64, 82, 175, 240, 255, 127, 0, 0, 86, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 216, 33, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 104, 36, 113, 247, 255, 127, 0, 0, 129, 141, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 86, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 59, 4, 0, 0...} (gdb) list 818 if dataidx<0 then 819 internalerror(200306067); 820 { read data } 821 current_module.derefdata.seek(dataidx); 822 if current_module.derefdata.read(len,1)<>1 then 823 internalerror(200310221); 824 if len>0 then 825 begin 826 if current_module.derefdata.read(data,len)<>len then 827 internalerror(200310222); Colin ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On 8/24/2016 1:04 AM, brian wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:40:06 +0800, you wrote: It should maybe be noted that this download apparently requires that you have Windows 10? Negative. I downloaded and installed it just fine on Windows 8.1/64... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > Negative. I downloaded and installed it just fine on Windows 8.1/64... Anyone knows if Windows 7 would also work? -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
Anyone knows if Windows 7 would also work? http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/Berlin/en/Installation_Notes#Operating_System_Requirements Gabor ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
Other than that one option page being blank, the app runs and installs fine under a brand new VM of Win7 Pro without SP1. Going to check to see if applying SP1 fixes that one option form though. On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho < felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > > Negative. I downloaded and installed it just fine on Windows 8.1/64... > > Anyone knows if Windows 7 would also work? > > -- > Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho > ___ > fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org > http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal > ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
Hi, Please continue further discussion of this topic (except for a possible answer by Embarcadero regarding the non-compete clause) to the fpc-other list. Thanks, Jonas FPC mailing lists admin ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC trunk internal error 200310221
On 08/24/2016 07:27 AM, C Western wrote: I have recently started seeing FPC internal error 200310221 when compiling a changed program with lazarus using the trunk fpc version. If I do a build, the problem goes away, only to recur after a random number of changes/recompiles. The program I am working on is quite large, so it is not obvious how to generate a simple test case for reporting. Suggestions? I managed to catch the error in gdb, but the info is not that helpful: a backtrace ("bt" or "bt full") would probably have been better... if the program is threaded, then thread apply all bt full would have given additional info that might have been useful... -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list* unless private contact is specifically requested and granted. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On 08/24/2016 04:04 AM, brian wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:40:06 +0800, you wrote: It should maybe be noted that this download apparently requires that you have Windows 10? that sucks even worse than it not supporting other OSes... i'm glad i didn't waste my time downloading it and trying to set up a VM for it... effin' wankers... -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list* unless private contact is specifically requested and granted. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC trunk internal error 200310221
C Western wrote: > I have recently started seeing FPC internal error 200310221 when > compiling a changed program with lazarus using the trunk fpc version. If > I do a build, the problem goes away, only to recur after a random number > of changes/recompiles. The program I am working on is quite large, so it > is not obvious how to generate a simple test case for reporting. > Suggestions? Not really. I've also started encountering it sometimes while working on the compiler, but haven't had the time yet to look for the cause. Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Free Delphi 10.1 Berlin Starter Edition
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 05:12:54 -0700, you wrote: >On 8/24/2016 1:04 AM, brian wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:40:06 +0800, you wrote: >> >> It should maybe be noted that this download apparently requires that >> you have Windows 10? >Negative. I downloaded and installed it just fine on Windows 8.1/64... > Interesting. When you enter your details and get the download link, it very clearly says that it needs the .NET from Windows 10 to run. You downloaded and installed it, have you actually done anything with it? Brian. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC trunk internal error 200310221
On 24/08/16 14:31, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 08/24/2016 07:27 AM, C Western wrote: I have recently started seeing FPC internal error 200310221 when compiling a changed program with lazarus using the trunk fpc version. If I do a build, the problem goes away, only to recur after a random number of changes/recompiles. The program I am working on is quite large, so it is not obvious how to generate a simple test case for reporting. Suggestions? I managed to catch the error in gdb, but the info is not that helpful: a backtrace ("bt" or "bt full") would probably have been better... if the program is threaded, then thread apply all bt full would have given additional info that might have been useful... In fact it provides the same information in this case: (gdb) thread apply all bt full Thread 1 (process 5541): #0 INTERNALERROR (I=200310221) at verbose.pas:572 No locals. #1 0x0048b81b in RESOLVE (this=access memory at address 0xbf07dcd>) at symtype.pas:823 result = 0x0 RESOLVE = 0x0 RESULT = 0x0 PM = 0x7fffe6e2f2c0 TYP = 59 IDX = 925 I = 200310221 LEN = 8 DATA = {1, 0, 23, 2, 0, 0, 0, 158, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 79, 117, 247, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 255, 149, 227, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 160, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 136, 116, 211, 226, 255, 127, 0, 0, 121, 135, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 224, 55, 255, 255, 255, 127, 0, 0, 128, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 136, 116, 211, 226, 255, 127, 0, 0, 56, 160, 162, 233, 255, 127, 0, 0, 0, 26, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 254, 126, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 224, 26, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 236, 140, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 189, 206, 226, 255, 127, 0, 0, 249, 137, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 48, 79, 117, 247, 255, 127, 0, 0, 192, 84, 175, 240, 255, 127, 0, 0, 86, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 216, 33, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 104, 36, 113, 247, 255, 127, 0, 0, 129, 141, 65, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 86, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 59, 4, 0, 0...} #2 0x021700010008 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #3 0x7fff9e00 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #4 0x77754f00 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #5 0x7fffe395ff00 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #6 0x in ?? () No symbol table info available. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal