Re: [fpc-pascal] $LINKLIB MSVCRT on windows/osx

2014-03-10 Thread Ludo Brands
On 03/09/2014 08:36 PM, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:
> Marco:
> 
> Based on the tone of your response, I am thinking that I
> am doing something stupid on windows win32?
> 

You are on the correct path but you need to point to the mingw
libraries. They provide the stubs for msvcrt and other windows standard
libraries. Take a look at these step by step instructions on static
linking
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,15712.msg84781.html#msg84781
. It is about linking Sqlite but it applies to most C code.

Ludo

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread Jonas Maebe

On 10 Mar 2014, at 05:15, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:

> After diving deeply into the dependency tree,
> 
> there are 2 libraries that are involved in this particular problem:
> 
> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
> 
> But I cannot figure out yet how to call up the libgcc_s.1.dylib

Since the library is called libgcc_s, use {$linklib gcc_s}. You don't have to 
(and shouldn't) explicitly link in libSystem, that's already done by the 
compiler.


Jonas
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[fpc-pascal] Shared memory on various OSes

2014-03-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
When a DLL/so is loaded dynamically by multiple program instances, are 
globals shared or would this require explicit use of OS-level shared memory?


The application is emulating a region of scratchpad memory (File Protect 
Memory) used by hardware in an obsolete computer (Burroughs B5700). This 
provided the locking that allowed multiple computers to share a common 
disc system.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Shared memory on various OSes

2014-03-10 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:

When a DLL/so is loaded dynamically by multiple program instances, are 
globals shared or would this require explicit use of OS-level shared memory?


You'll need explicit use of OS-level shared memory.


Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Shared memory on various OSes

2014-03-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Michael Van Canneyt wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:

When a DLL/so is loaded dynamically by multiple program instances, are 
globals shared or would this require explicit use of OS-level shared 
memory?


You'll need explicit use of OS-level shared memory.


Thanks, noted :-)

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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC for ARMv4

2014-03-10 Thread Jon
> On Friday, 7 March 2014, 11:04, Jonas Maebe  wrote:
> > 
> On 05 Mar 2014, at 19:41, Jon wrote:
> 
>>  I have a board running Linux - it reports itself as armv4tl:
>> 
>>  root@phidgetsbc:~# uname -a
>>  Linux phidgetsbc 3.1.6 #3 PREEMPT Fri Jan 6 13:05:50 MST 2012  
>>  armv4tl GNU/Linux
>> 
>>  root@phidgetsbc:~# cat /etc/issue
>>  Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 \n \l
>> 
>> 
>>  After trying and failing to install a cross-compiler on my Linux x64  
>>  system, I want to install FPC directly onto the system.
>> 
>>  Can you advise the best procedure. After downloading and installing  
>>  fpc-2.6.2.arm-linux.tar I get errors:
> 
> That compiler is probably built for ARMv6, so it's normal that it  
> doesn't work on your system. Additionally, you first have to determine  
> the ABI in use on your system. To do so, run "objdump -p /bin/ls" and  
> 
> have a look at the "private flags" section near the end.
> 
> If it contains "EABI", then you have to build an EABI cross-compiler  
> (compile the ARM compiler with -dFPC_ARMEL in the make OPT parameter),  
> otherwise you have to build an old ABI cross-compiler (compile the ARM  
> compiler with no specific parameters in the make OPT parameter, but  
> add -Cfsoft to CROSSOPT to ensure the created native compiler uses  
> software floating point).
> 
> 
> Jonas
>

If I understand you correctly, I don't use the prebuilt package but instead use 
the source package (fpc-2.6.2.source.tar.gz) and build it on the unit itself? 
Do I need binutils or anything else?

Cross-compiling has always been very difficult for me, I follow the 
instructions at http://wiki.freepascal.org/Setup_Cross_Compile_For_ARM but is 
that the best place?

Thanks

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread m...@rpzdesign.com

Peter:

I was surprised too.  That is why I broadcast the alarm to the FPC 
community.


I am running FPC 2.6.2 - Lazarus 1.0.14

Yes, I can recompile FPC from scratch on Mavericks.
I can compile perfectly well on Mavericks too.

No, I cannot issue the {$LINKLIB gcc } command on Mavericks OSX 10.9

Have you tried the {$LINKLIB gcc } command?

Anybody else got ideas?

md


On 3/10/2014 1:03 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

I'm a bit surprised. As it happens, just this week I compiled the fpc
compiler from scratch on Mavericks. It worked perfectly well, and is
compiling perfectly well - version 2.6.0.

I was wondering, though, whether there was any enhanced support for
features on the Intel 'Sandy-Bridge' and 'Ivy-Bridge' processors - the
i5 chips.

On 10 March 2014 05:32, m...@rpzdesign.com  wrote:

Now that OSX Mavericks 10.9 is running full speed, it has broken the
{$LINKLIB gcc} compiler directive.

{$LINKLIB c} still WORKS.
But {$LINKLIB gcc} does not.

The reason is that Mavericks does not use GCC any more, it is using clang,
a new compiler.

So now Freepascal users need to know how to resolve errors:

Undefined symbols for architecture i386:
"___divdi3", referenced from libmystatic.a,
"___moddi3", referenced from libmystatic.a, etc...

ANybody got ideas?

I tried {$LINKLIB clang}, it does not exist.

Thanks for any ideas,

Marco






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Re: [fpc-pascal] $LINKLIB MSVCRT on windows

2014-03-10 Thread m...@rpzdesign.com

Ludo:

I wish the forum.lazarus.freepascal.org website were functional.  It is 
usually not responding most of the time.


Can you or anybody just copy the step by step instructions into an email 
and send it to me directly?


I would love to look at the step by step instructions, but that forum 
has an internet connection problem.


Funny, last night, I could look at the site for the first time in days, 
but this morning, it is not available.


Maybe it suffers denial of service attacks?

Thanks,

md

On 3/10/2014 3:15 AM, Ludo Brands wrote:

On 03/09/2014 08:36 PM, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:

Marco:

Based on the tone of your response, I am thinking that I
am doing something stupid on windows win32?


You are on the correct path but you need to point to the mingw
libraries. They provide the stubs for msvcrt and other windows standard
libraries. Take a look at these step by step instructions on static
linking
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,15712.msg84781.html#msg84781
. It is about linking Sqlite but it applies to most C code.

Ludo

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread Peter Brooks
Why are you wanting to use gcc instead? If I wanted to do this, I'd
just replace c with a link to gcc.


On 10 March 2014 16:14, m...@rpzdesign.com  wrote:
> Peter:
>
> I was surprised too.  That is why I broadcast the alarm to the FPC
> community.
>
> I am running FPC 2.6.2 - Lazarus 1.0.14
>
> Yes, I can recompile FPC from scratch on Mavericks.
> I can compile perfectly well on Mavericks too.
>
> No, I cannot issue the {$LINKLIB gcc } command on Mavericks OSX 10.9
>
> Have you tried the {$LINKLIB gcc } command?
>
> Anybody else got ideas?
>
> md
>
>
> On 3/10/2014 1:03 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:
>>
>> I'm a bit surprised. As it happens, just this week I compiled the fpc
>> compiler from scratch on Mavericks. It worked perfectly well, and is
>> compiling perfectly well - version 2.6.0.
>>
>> I was wondering, though, whether there was any enhanced support for
>> features on the Intel 'Sandy-Bridge' and 'Ivy-Bridge' processors - the
>> i5 chips.
>>
>> On 10 March 2014 05:32, m...@rpzdesign.com  wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that OSX Mavericks 10.9 is running full speed, it has broken the
>>> {$LINKLIB gcc} compiler directive.
>>>
>>> {$LINKLIB c} still WORKS.
>>> But {$LINKLIB gcc} does not.
>>>
>>> The reason is that Mavericks does not use GCC any more, it is using
>>> clang,
>>> a new compiler.
>>>
>>> So now Freepascal users need to know how to resolve errors:
>>>
>>> Undefined symbols for architecture i386:
>>> "___divdi3", referenced from libmystatic.a,
>>> "___moddi3", referenced from libmystatic.a, etc...
>>>
>>> ANybody got ideas?
>>>
>>> I tried {$LINKLIB clang}, it does not exist.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any ideas,
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread m...@rpzdesign.com

Jonas,

Unfortunately, your suggestion while appreciated does not work.

For example, the actual function "__divdi3" actually lives in 
/usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib


This library does not exist on Snow Leopard. But it does exist on 
Mavericks.  (I do not have Lion/Mtn Lion available)


{$LINKLIB gcc_s} does not work -> Library NOT found by FPC compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB compiler_rt} does not work -> Library NOT found by FPC 
compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB /usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib} does not work -> Library 
NOT found by FPC compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib} does not work -> Library NOT found 
by FPC compiler/linker


I also tried using:
{$LIBRARYPATH /usr/lib/system}
{$LINKLIB compiler_rt}

So this is more challenging that I originally thought.

Must I go back to Mountain Lion to do OSX development with FPC/Lazarus?

The mystery still continues...

On 3/10/2014 3:18 AM, Jonas Maebe wrote:

On 10 Mar 2014, at 05:15, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:


After diving deeply into the dependency tree,

there are 2 libraries that are involved in this particular problem:

/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib

But I cannot figure out yet how to call up the libgcc_s.1.dylib

Since the library is called libgcc_s, use {$linklib gcc_s}. You don't have to 
(and shouldn't) explicitly link in libSystem, that's already done by the 
compiler.


Jonas
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread m...@rpzdesign.com

Peter:

I must use some form of {$LINKLIB gcc}

{$LINKLIB c} still WORKS under OSX 10.9

{$LINKLIB gcc} does not work user OSX 10.9 Mavericks.

"__divdi3" unresolved reference lives in the gcc run time library chain.

md








On 3/10/2014 11:21 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Why are you wanting to use gcc instead? If I wanted to do this, I'd
just replace c with a link to gcc.


On 10 March 2014 16:14, m...@rpzdesign.com  wrote:

Peter:

I was surprised too.  That is why I broadcast the alarm to the FPC
community.

I am running FPC 2.6.2 - Lazarus 1.0.14

Yes, I can recompile FPC from scratch on Mavericks.
I can compile perfectly well on Mavericks too.

No, I cannot issue the {$LINKLIB gcc } command on Mavericks OSX 10.9

Have you tried the {$LINKLIB gcc } command?

Anybody else got ideas?

md


On 3/10/2014 1:03 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

I'm a bit surprised. As it happens, just this week I compiled the fpc
compiler from scratch on Mavericks. It worked perfectly well, and is
compiling perfectly well - version 2.6.0.

I was wondering, though, whether there was any enhanced support for
features on the Intel 'Sandy-Bridge' and 'Ivy-Bridge' processors - the
i5 chips.

On 10 March 2014 05:32, m...@rpzdesign.com  wrote:

Now that OSX Mavericks 10.9 is running full speed, it has broken the
{$LINKLIB gcc} compiler directive.

{$LINKLIB c} still WORKS.
But {$LINKLIB gcc} does not.

The reason is that Mavericks does not use GCC any more, it is using
clang,
a new compiler.

So now Freepascal users need to know how to resolve errors:

Undefined symbols for architecture i386:
"___divdi3", referenced from libmystatic.a,
"___moddi3", referenced from libmystatic.a, etc...

ANybody got ideas?

I tried {$LINKLIB clang}, it does not exist.

Thanks for any ideas,

Marco






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Re: [fpc-pascal] $LINKLIB MSVCRT on windows

2014-03-10 Thread Ralf Quint

On 3/10/2014 7:23 AM, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:

Ludo:

I wish the forum.lazarus.freepascal.org website were functional. It is 
usually not responding most of the time.


Must be an issue on your side, I can access it, at any time I have tried 
in the last few weeks, just perfectly fine...


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread Jonas Maebe


On 10 Mar 2014, at 19:07, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:


Unfortunately, your suggestion while appreciated does not work.

For example, the actual function "__divdi3" actually lives in 
/usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib


This library does not exist on Snow Leopard. But it does exist on 
Mavericks.  (I do not have Lion/Mtn Lion available)

It's the equivalent of libgcc for LLVM.

{$LINKLIB gcc_s} does not work -> Library NOT found by FPC compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB compiler_rt} does not work -> Library NOT found by FPC 
compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB /usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib} does not work -> 
Library NOT found by FPC compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib} does not work -> Library NOT 
found by FPC compiler/linker


I also tried using:
{$LIBRARYPATH /usr/lib/system}
{$LINKLIB compiler_rt}


I've looked into it. In short:
* make sure you are using FPC 2.6.2 or later.
* do *not* add any linklib statement
* use the compiler command line parameter -WM10.6 (if you want to target 
minimally Mac OS X 10.6) ... -WM10.9 (if you want to target OS X 10.9)


In long:

In 10.6 and later those symbols are part of the system library 
(libSystem, which is the same as libc). That means that if you target 
10.6 or later, you don't need to explicitly link against libgcc anymore. 
However, the linker will only get those symbols from libc/libSystem if 
you target 10.6 or later, because it knows that they are not available 
on OS versions.


Npw, FPC's default Mac OS X target for Intel is either 10.4 (for i386) 
or 10.5 (for x86-64). You did not have problems when compiling under 
10.6, because
a) under that OS version, gcc was still installed as part of the 
developer tools
b) this copy of gcc came with a statically linkable version of libgcc 
(/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-apple-darwin10/VERSION/libgcc.a)
c) FPC's installer asks gcc for the path to this libgcc.a and adds a 
library search path for it to the default config file


As a result, adding {$linklib gcc} worked to resolve the symbols.

It doesn't work under 10.9, because there is no global gcc installation 
anymore, and hence no accompanying libgcc.a anywhere.


Now, since Mac OS X 10.4 you can also dynamically link to libgcc instead 
of statically (the libgcc_s file). Under 10.4 and 10.5, this file still 
contained the helpers. That's why you have the following files in /usr/lib:


lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Oct 22 22:20 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib@ 
-> libSystem.B.dylib

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  30984 Oct 23 21:09 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.10.5.dylib*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 19 Oct 23 21:09 
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.10.4.dylib@ -> libgcc_s.10.5.dylib


The latter two are compatibility files for programs that were previously 
compiled with Mac OS X 10.4 or 10.5 as target. On those systems (and in 
those SDKs), libgcc_s.dylib was a symbolic link to libgcc_s.10.4.dylib 
resp. libgcc_s.10.5.dylib). As a result, programs compiled against those 
SDKs and linking to libgcc_s.dylib, would record libgcc_s.10.4.dylib 
resp. libgcc_s.10.5.dylib as the real library name in the binary, and 
will still work even though there's no libgcc_s.dylib anymore.


This means that you can still explicitly link your programs against them 
by adding {$linklib gcc_s.10.5} to your program. Unless you still want 
to support 10.5 or 10.4, using -WM10.6 or higher is probably better 
though (this parameter tells the compiler/linker that you targeting Mac 
OS X 10.6 and later, and hence the required symbols will be taken from 
libSystem).



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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread m...@rpzdesign.com

Jonas:

Where in Lazarus 1.0.14 do I put in the compiler command line option?   
-WM10.9


Project Options->Compiler Options->Compilation->Compiler->Command-> 
$(CompPath) -WM10.9


And when I use this setting -WM10.9, this means that I can only execute 
the resulting binary on Mavericks and above?


But if I use -WM10.6, then this means that I am targeting for Snow 
Leopard 10.6 and above?


Thank you for breaking this down today.

Cheers,

md

On 3/10/2014 3:46 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote:


On 10 Mar 2014, at 19:07, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:


Unfortunately, your suggestion while appreciated does not work.

For example, the actual function "__divdi3" actually lives in 
/usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib


This library does not exist on Snow Leopard. But it does exist on 
Mavericks.  (I do not have Lion/Mtn Lion available)

It's the equivalent of libgcc for LLVM.
{$LINKLIB gcc_s} does not work -> Library NOT found by FPC 
compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB compiler_rt} does not work -> Library NOT found by FPC 
compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB /usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib} does not work -> 
Library NOT found by FPC compiler/linker
{$LINKLIB /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib} does not work -> Library NOT 
found by FPC compiler/linker


I also tried using:
{$LIBRARYPATH /usr/lib/system}
{$LINKLIB compiler_rt}


I've looked into it. In short:
* make sure you are using FPC 2.6.2 or later.
* do *not* add any linklib statement
* use the compiler command line parameter -WM10.6 (if you want to 
target minimally Mac OS X 10.6) ... -WM10.9 (if you want to target OS 
X 10.9)




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Re: [fpc-pascal] Freepascal on OSX 10.9 Mavericks $LINKLIB gcc broken

2014-03-10 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:18:38 -0400
"m...@rpzdesign.com"  wrote:

> Jonas:
> 
> Where in Lazarus 1.0.14 do I put in the compiler command line option?   
> -WM10.9
> 
> Project Options->Compiler Options->Compilation->Compiler->Command

No, that's the path to the compiler, no extra options.

> -WM10.9

Extra options are called "custom options":
Project Options->Compiler Options->Compilation->Other->Custom options

 
> And when I use this setting -WM10.9, this means that I can only execute 
> the resulting binary on Mavericks and above?

Yes.

 
> But if I use -WM10.6, then this means that I am targeting for Snow 
> Leopard 10.6 and above?

Yes.

Mattias
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Re: [fpc-pascal] $LINKLIB MSVCRT on windows

2014-03-10 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
I'm getting 404 error some times (randomly). However, in a minute I can
access the forum again.
It might be an issue on the hosting server.

thanks,
Dmitry


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Ralf Quint  wrote:

> On 3/10/2014 7:23 AM, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:
>
>> Ludo:
>>
>> I wish the forum.lazarus.freepascal.org website were functional. It is
>> usually not responding most of the time.
>>
>>  Must be an issue on your side, I can access it, at any time I have tried
> in the last few weeks, just perfectly fine...
>
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