Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?

2012-12-30 Thread Patrick

On 12-12-29 12:10 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:


From: Patrick 
To: FPC-Pascal users discussions 
Cc: Sven Barth 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Basically on the right track?


I was able to compile helloworld2 and run it without errors.

Sorry for the long email ! thanks for reading it-Patrick




Patrick, btw, do you know you can create GTK2 (and QT, Win32, etc) apps with 
FreePascal without bothering with low level GTK2 libraries?, please take a look 
at the Lazarus Project (http://lazarus.freepascal.org), it'll make your life 
much, much easier.

Regards,
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http://leonardorame.blogspot.com

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Hi Leonardo

Thanks for your post. Actually I want to do some wacky stuff mixing 
Pascal, Ada and Lua. I think I will need to learn the lower level stuff.


Happy new year :)
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: CrossFPC is finally released

2012-12-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 30/12/12 03:47, leledumbo wrote:
> first public beta in 7 years since the latest
> internal release, wow

Hey, that seems the norm these days. Lazarus was in beta for over 12 years!


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: CrossFPC is finally released

2012-12-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:00:53 +
Graeme Geldenhuys  wrote:

> On 30/12/12 03:47, leledumbo wrote:
> > first public beta in 7 years since the latest
> > internal release, wow
> 
> Hey, that seems the norm these days. Lazarus was in beta for over 12 years!

Actually it was beta for 10 years. Since 2002-08-18.

Mattias
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[fpc-pascal] Re: CrossFPC is finally released

2012-12-30 Thread leledumbo
lazarus was in beta for that many years, but this project has just got its
FIRST beta in many years



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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: CrossFPC is finally released

2012-12-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, leledumbo said:
> lazarus was in beta for that many years, but this project has just got its
> FIRST beta in many years

It looks to me that they more or less just decided to release what they had
got. 

More far out features that were talked about on the maillist (like designer,
and debugging) are not in the release, and probably never will be.

I didn't mind those features back then, just didn't consider them very
realistic.

What back then annoyed me more was the idea to based on Delphi and Kylix
sources (with obvious non-freeness and (very) Linux/x86 specific behaviour).

It scares me that sources are still not available, despite the
announcement. But at least they seem to support ARM, so they probably
cleansed the worst from the sources. But without sources that is hard to
tell. It might be an horrible ifdef mess in unit libc.

They also must have done something about the Delphi side of things seeing
the amount of versions they support.

The trouble is that Kylix is nowadays much less relevant than back then, to
the extend that we put deprecated messages in the libc unit in FPC 2.6.2

Also the difference between Delphi and Lazarus as an IDE is much less,
cutting out another main motivator for the project. 
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: CrossFPC is finally released

2012-12-30 Thread Ralf A. Quint

At 03:01 PM 12/30/2012, leledumbo wrote:

lazarus was in beta for that many years, but this project has just got its
FIRST beta in many years


No so fast, they actually have to release something first.
On their web site it says "The first public download will be provided 
within late December 2012" in one place and "24 December 2012 
(internal beta)" in another, actually available is still nothing.
Ok, still 33h to go 'til the end of December 2012 in this part of the 
world, let's see if something is going to happen (or not...)


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