Re: [fpc-pascal] Adding code indentation without Lazarus

2012-01-03 Thread Sven Barth 
As Marco said the tool wasn't updated for quite some time (according to 
SVN around 4 years), so if you find language constructs that aren't 
indented correctly you should add a bug report to 
http://bugs.freepascal.org/ (I don't know though how friendly the bug 
tracker is for blind people).


Regards,
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Am 03.01.2012 00:43, schrieb Luciano de Souza:

I have tested ptop with very good results. It does really what I want.
As it is possible to get the default cfg with '-g", we can change it and
call the changed cfg with '-c'. It's really a powerful and easy tool.

Em 02-01-2012 14:29, Marco van de Voort escreveu:

In our previous episode, michael.vancann...@wisa.be said:

My editor is Gedit. In Linux, there are not lots of accessible
editors. For this reason, I don't think I will get a plugin to do it
for me.

So I ask: Does someone know a commandline tool that indents the code
automatically?

Yes. FPC comes with a tool ptop. It indents code. It is probably not as
powerful as the lazarus code formatter, but it does the job.

Hasn't been dialect updated for quite a while I think.
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[fpc-pascal] Re: Finished full JVM Android application

2012-01-03 Thread leledumbo 
> Anyway, I have published the first version of the sources licensed under 
GPL here:

Downloaded, will learn tonight ;)

> I thought the subject of the mail already says that I have used FPC-JVM 
for this. ;)

Forget that question, my brain was crumpled.

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[fpc-pascal] How can I trap signals

2012-01-03 Thread ik 
Hello,

I wish to trap two signals in Linux (ABRT and HUP), how can I do that ?

Thanks,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How can I trap signals

2012-01-03 Thread michael . vancanneyt 



On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, ik wrote:


Hello,

I wish to trap two signals in Linux (ABRT and HUP), how can I do that ?


Install a signal handler.

See e.g.

http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/baseunix/fpsigaction.html

For an example.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] How can I trap signals

2012-01-03 Thread ik 
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:16,  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, ik wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>>
>> I wish to trap two signals in Linux (ABRT and HUP), how can I do that ?
>>
>
> Install a signal handler.
>
> See e.g.
>
> http://www.freepascal.org/**docs-html/rtl/baseunix/**fpsigaction.html
>
> For an example.
>

Thank you,  it helped a lot.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Problems with fpdoc

2012-01-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys 
On 2 January 2012 16:23, Marco van de Voort  wrote:
> I don't think it differs from html. Some questions that come to mind:
>
> Upon reading, my first guess would be that either that specification how
> paths are transformed is murky (and it just "happens" to work with latex),
> or some transformation is missing in this specific case.
>
> Do we have pictures in fpdoc docs somewhere?

I use pictures in tiOPF's documentation.

  http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/tiformmediator/index.html
  http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/titokenlibrary/index.html

I only use fpdoc tags, never HTML tags in the help contents.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Problems with fpdoc

2012-01-03 Thread michael . vancanneyt 



On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:


On 2 January 2012 16:23, Marco van de Voort  wrote:

I don't think it differs from html. Some questions that come to mind:

Upon reading, my first guess would be that either that specification how
paths are transformed is murky (and it just "happens" to work with latex),
or some transformation is missing in this specific case.

Do we have pictures in fpdoc docs somewhere?


I use pictures in tiOPF's documentation.

 http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/tiformmediator/index.html
 http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/titokenlibrary/index.html

I only use fpdoc tags, never HTML tags in the help contents.


Thank you, Graeme.

Darius just has some wrong value in the IMG tag's file attribute. 
Correcting that, it works fine with HTML. There may be still a bug 
in CHM, Marco will have to investigate that.


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[fpc-pascal] Help!!

2012-01-03 Thread Malvin 
Right now i've been trying to build a mysql server using pascal, but i don't
know where to begin. Can anyone help me?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Help!!

2012-01-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys 
On 3 January 2012 13:04, Malvin  wrote:
> Right now i've been trying to build a mysql server using pascal, but i don't
> know where to begin. Can anyone help me?

There are database tutorials on the Free Pascal Wiki site.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] How can I trap signals

2012-01-03 Thread ik 
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:24, ik  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:16,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, ik wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I wish to trap two signals in Linux (ABRT and HUP), how can I do that ?
>>>
>>
>> Install a signal handler.
>>
>> See e.g.
>>
>> http://www.freepascal.org/**docs-html/rtl/baseunix/**fpsigaction.html
>>
>> For an example.
>>
>
> Thank you,  it helped a lot.
>
>
>>
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> Ido
>


In order to help myself and others to know and remember, I'ved added an
Example to Github:
https://github.com/ik5/blog-examples/blob/master/fpc/signals1/signals.lpr

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Problems with fpdoc

2012-01-03 Thread Marco van de Voort 
In our previous episode, michael.vancann...@wisa.be said:
> >  http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/tiformmediator/index.html
> >  http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/titokenlibrary/index.html
> >
> > I only use fpdoc tags, never HTML tags in the help contents.
> 
> Thank you, Graeme.
> 
> Darius just has some wrong value in the IMG tag's file attribute. 
> Correcting that, it works fine with HTML. There may be still a bug 
> in CHM, Marco will have to investigate that.

I think it is mostly the directory layout. You had images in images/ and
Darius not, and Darius didn't know about images/

Logically, Darius should pass --image-dir "" or something like that and it
might work.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Finished full JVM Android application

2012-01-03 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho 
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 4:56 PM, leledumbo  wrote:
> I want it, I need it, give 'em to me, yeah!
> Anyway, are you using FPC-JVM or Lazarus-Android interface to accomplish
> this?

This thread is not related to the Lazarus Android support which is
called LCL-CustomDrawn-Android. LCL-CustomDrawn-Android is native and
communicates via JNI with the Android Java APIs. And I don't see any
reason to change it into using the JVM port even in a remote future,
because it already works great.

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[fpc-pascal] FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread leledumbo 
I'm checking out FPC JVM branch, however, in the middle of the process, it
fails with "Decompression of svndiff data failed". The error keeps occuring,
so I guess it's not a connection problem or something unpredictable. I'm
using latest TortoiseSVN by the way, which is compiled for SVN 1.7.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread Marcos Douglas 
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:23 AM, leledumbo  wrote:
>
> I'm checking out FPC JVM branch, however, in the middle of the process, it
> fails with "Decompression of svndiff data failed". The error keeps occuring,
> so I guess it's not a connection problem or something unpredictable. I'm
> using latest TortoiseSVN by the way, which is compiled for SVN 1.7.

This occurs for me too.
I just repeat the procedure to it work again.

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[fpc-pascal] Re: FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread leledumbo 
> I just repeat the procedure to it work again.

It doesn't work for me :|
Could you send me a zipped archive?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread Jonas Maebe 


On 03 Jan 2012, at 16:05, leledumbo wrote:


I just repeat the procedure to it work again.


It doesn't work for me :|


According to http://subversion.open.collab.net/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=4&dsMessageId=322466 
 , this error may be caused by an error in the zlib library shipped  
with Windows Vista. Are you using Vista?


Some people report success with manually reducing their MTU: http://subversion.open.collab.net/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=4&dsMessageId=335721 
 . This may be related to the fact that FPC svn server sits behind a  
broken (ISP) router that drops all ICMP packets (including those  
required for proper TCP functioning, such as the ones used for  
indicating that a packet needs to be fragmented because it's too big).


I've run "svnadmin verify" on the fpc repository on the server, but it  
didn't report any errors. It would have been strange if it had, since  
otherwise other people should have encountered the same problem (in a  
way that would not be solvable by simply restarting or continuing the  
checkout process afterwards).



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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread Marcos Douglas 
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM, leledumbo  wrote:
>> I just repeat the procedure to it work again.
>
> It doesn't work for me :|
> Could you send me a zipped archive?

I mean that occurs in many SVN servers.
If I try get a new FPC from SVN is possible occurs this problem... but
I just try again and it works.

I don't have the FPC JVM yet, sorry.

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[fpc-pascal] Re: FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread leledumbo 
> Are you using Vista?

Nope, I'm using XP. And I could checkout without problems about a month ago,
this same jvmbackend port.

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[fpc-pascal] FP IDE: Error: Illegal parameter: -Cp386

2012-01-03 Thread Bart 
I recently updated to fpc 2.6.0
Now I cannot compile anything in the FP IDE (Version 1.0.12 2011/12/25).

Program test;

{$mode objfpc}
{$h+}

begin
end.

I try to build/make:
Error: Illegal parameter: -Cp386

This is the auto-generated fp.cfg file:

# Automatically created file, don't edit.
#IFDEF NORMAL
 -TWin32
 -Mfpc
 -Sg
 -Ci
 -O1
 -Cp80386
 -OpPENTIUM3
 -Ratt
 -FuC:\devel\fpc\units\i386-Win32
 -FuC:\devel\fpc\units\i386-Win32\*
 -FuC:\devel\fpc\units\i386-Win32\rtl
 -XS
 -g-
 -p-
 -b-

 -Cp386   --
#ENDIF
[snip]

Should probably be -Cp80386?

Bart
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Problems with fpdoc

2012-01-03 Thread Darius Blaszyk 

On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

> On 2 January 2012 16:23, Marco van de Voort  wrote:
>> I don't think it differs from html. Some questions that come to mind:
>> 
>> Upon reading, my first guess would be that either that specification how
>> paths are transformed is murky (and it just "happens" to work with latex),
>> or some transformation is missing in this specific case.
>> 
>> Do we have pictures in fpdoc docs somewhere?
> 
> I use pictures in tiOPF's documentation.
> 
>  http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/tiformmediator/index.html
>  http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/tiopf/core/titokenlibrary/index.html
> 
> I only use fpdoc tags, never HTML tags in the help contents.

I have no issues with HTML documentation. The chm writer simply did not support 
embedding images. I have uploaded a patch in the bug tracker.

Regards, Darius

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread Jonas Maebe 

On 03 Jan 2012, at 17:16, leledumbo wrote:

>> Are you using Vista?
> 
> Nope, I'm using XP. And I could checkout without problems about a month ago,
> this same jvmbackend port.

The problem might still be related to the MTU. Maybe a patch since then has 
exactly the "right" size to trigger the problem. Try lowering it a bit to see 
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Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC JVM checkout problem

2012-01-03 Thread Adrian Veith 
Are you connected via CABLE or WIRELESS. We have similar errors
connecting to our svn repositories via LTE because of a buggy proxy
server in between.

Am 03.01.2012 15:23, schrieb leledumbo:
> I'm checking out FPC JVM branch, however, in the middle of the process, it
> fails with "Decompression of svndiff data failed". The error keeps occuring,
> so I guess it's not a connection problem or something unpredictable. I'm
> using latest TortoiseSVN by the way, which is compiled for SVN 1.7.
>
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Re: [fpc-pascal] using exceptions

2012-01-03 Thread Lars 
Marcos Douglas wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Anton Shepelev 
> wrote:
>> Marcos Douglas:
>>
>>> It's  not  difficult,  but is boring have always a
>>> parameter or function return to return  an  error,
>>> and  have  to  verify  if error then... if not er-
>>> ror...  if error and error then... etc
>>

But it is just as boring to write code where you have to check all the
exceptions.  Often I see people using StrToInt without checking that it
was a success.  TryStrToInt allows you to avoid exceptions, so if
exceptions are so good, why do people use trystrtoint and why did borland
create it if delphi is supposed to handle things the exception way? I
think sometimes checking for errors makes the code easier to direct..
except forces you to put the code as if you are using a GOTO except label.

>
> No, I mean is better use try-except than nested IFs/GOTO/etc.

Exceptions are actually GOTO labels.. if you think about what is
happening. If there are any exceptions what happens in your code? You GOTO
the exception area.


>
> Thanks for the tips... but, IMHO, the code above would be more simpler
> like that:
>
> begin
> Result := False; // Success flag
> [...]
> procOne;
> procTwo;
> procThree;
> [...]
> Result := True;
>   except
>  on e: Exception do
>ShowMessage(e.Message);
>   end;
> end;
>
> Marcos Douglas


But that just a goto statement going to the except label.. Exceptions in a
way are actually forcing you to write your code in  a GOTO way.

Often you want to handle errors differently, your above code sends it all
to the GOTO except area.. but what if you have to clean up things
depending on the situation? free memory, etc. It's often never as simple
as going to the exception area. It seems easier on the surface to use
exceptions, but when you look into it, it's often not as simple as writing
all code to GOTO exception area...

Is the above code an exception or an error that you are catching? are
errors and exceptions the same thing? Once again, IMO this whole subject
needs to be researched more (academically too). What is the difference,
precisely and rigorously, between an error and exception?  Are exceptions
errors?  If so, why do some people say only to throw an exception when it
is an exception, and use errors for other cases? If that is the case,
exceptions cannot be the same as errors.

In Java exceptions and errors are the same thing, and/or the water is
muddy and it is not clearly defined. In Delphi the water is muddy.  Often
I see people using TryStrToInt instead of StrToInt, which means that
people actually prefer checking the error (false or true) instead of
checking the exception.

Another interesting article is:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2003/10/13.html


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Re: [fpc-pascal] using exceptions

2012-01-03 Thread Marcos Douglas 
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Lars  wrote:
> Marcos Douglas wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Anton Shepelev 
>> wrote:
>>> Marcos Douglas:
>>>
 It's  not  difficult,  but is boring have always a
 parameter or function return to return  an  error,
 and  have  to  verify  if error then... if not er-
 ror...  if error and error then... etc
>>>
>
> But it is just as boring to write code where you have to check all the
> exceptions.  Often I see people using StrToInt without checking that it
> was a success.  TryStrToInt allows you to avoid exceptions, so if
> exceptions are so good, why do people use trystrtoint and why did borland
> create it if delphi is supposed to handle things the exception way? I
> think sometimes checking for errors makes the code easier to direct..
> except forces you to put the code as if you are using a GOTO except label.

But you do not need test all Exception types.
In 95% of time, in private methods, I just use try-except on e:
Exception do  end.

>> No, I mean is better use try-except than nested IFs/GOTO/etc.
>
> Exceptions are actually GOTO labels.. if you think about what is
> happening. If there are any exceptions what happens in your code? You GOTO
> the exception area.

Ok, I agree with that similarity, but you forgot one thing:
And if the programmer do not test all own functions? The program could
be broke, right? Using Exceptions and have a global try-except (ie
OnException application or something like that) you can finalize your
program better, don't agree?

>> Thanks for the tips... but, IMHO, the code above would be more simpler
>> like that:
>>
>> begin
>>     Result := False; // Success flag
>>     [...]
>>     procOne;
>>     procTwo;
>>     procThree;
>>     [...]
>>     Result := True;
>>   except
>>      on e: Exception do
>>        ShowMessage(e.Message);
>>   end;
>> end;
>>
>> Marcos Douglas
>
>
> But that just a goto statement going to the except label.. Exceptions in a
> way are actually forcing you to write your code in  a GOTO way.
>
> Often you want to handle errors differently, your above code sends it all
> to the GOTO except area.. but what if you have to clean up things
> depending on the situation? free memory, etc. It's often never as simple
> as going to the exception area. It seems easier on the surface to use
> exceptions, but when you look into it, it's often not as simple as writing
> all code to GOTO exception area...

Well, we can simplify using less Exceptions type.
Maybe, as I said before, one Exception type to each class would be
simpler than use many Exceptions. This class only will raise one type
of Exception and catch all others in private, ie, all public methods
should be a try-except and, if catch something, just re-raise the
Exception using the Exception of this class. Well, just a thought...

> Is the above code an exception or an error that you are catching? are
> errors and exceptions the same thing? Once again, IMO this whole subject
> needs to be researched more (academically too). What is the difference,
> precisely and rigorously, between an error and exception?  Are exceptions
> errors?  If so, why do some people say only to throw an exception when it
> is an exception, and use errors for other cases? If that is the case,
> exceptions cannot be the same as errors.

+1

> In Java exceptions and errors are the same thing, and/or the water is
> muddy and it is not clearly defined. In Delphi the water is muddy.  Often
> I see people using TryStrToInt instead of StrToInt, which means that
> people actually prefer checking the error (false or true) instead of
> checking the exception.

I see more StrToInt than TryStrToInt, definitely.

> Another interesting article is:
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2003/10/13.html

Very interesting and I agree when he say:
"I think the reason programmers in C/C++/Java style languages have
been attracted to exceptions is simply because the syntax does not
have a concise way to call a function that returns multiple values, so
it's hard to write a function that either produces a return value or
returns an error."

If we could return more than one value, ok we (maybe) do not need Exceptions.

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[fpc-pascal] Re: Help!!

2012-01-03 Thread Malvin 
Thanks, I will try checking that site

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys-2 [via Free Pascal -
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> On 3 January 2012 13:04, Malvin <[hidden 
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> > Right now i've been trying to build a mysql server using pascal, but i
> don't
> > know where to begin. Can anyone help me?
>
> There are database tutorials on the Free Pascal Wiki site.
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