[fpc-pascal] Looking for a FreePascal Job

2007-03-29 Thread Marc Pertron

Hi,
I'm looking for a new job and i was looking for a compagny using freepascal.
Even on monster.com i didn't found anything.
Do you know compagnies using Delphi/FreePascal and hiring ?
Thanks,
Marc


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Marco van de Voort
> Matt Emson a ?crit :
> >> Free Pascal 1.0.10 was released with a Beos-port, developed by Carl Eric
> >> Cod?re. However, Carl stopped with FPC development, and nobody took over,
> >> so the Beo-port had to be discontinued.
> >> 
> >
> > Not to contradict you, but version 2.11 is available from here:
> > http://bebits.com/app/4321 (which basically links to the BeFPC souceforge
> > file repo.)
> >
> > Olivier Coursiere maintained a port after Carl stopped producung them.
> >   
> This 2.1.1 version is not an officially maintained port. It is a quick 
> port of the "new" RTL (it was new at that time...). This version is 
> based on libc functions instead of system calls used in older versions. 

What is the exact status of Zeta ? Is a free version available, and can it
be run in one of the virtualisation suits?

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RE: [fpc-pascal] Looking for a FreePascal Job

2007-03-29 Thread Helmut Hartl
Hi Marc,

We are a (small) company located here in Austria. We are doing Billing 
Solutions for VOIP Systems,
and SIP Communication Software - Softphones, Clients, Calloperator Software.
We are usig Linux/FPC on serverside, and delphi/fpc clientside. Besides
we made electronics, firmware and other customer design solutions.

But to not "pollute" the mailinglist - maybe you want to contact me 
per mail (helmut dot hartl at firmos dot at)
and tell me something about you - maybe we can do a project together ? 

Regards, helmut


Dipl.- Ing. Helmut Hartl 
Head of Development
FirmOS Business Solutions GmbH
Hauptstraße 52a
8054 Graz-Pirka

 

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 > 
 > Hi,
 > I'm looking for a new job and i was looking for a compagny 
 > using freepascal.
 > Even on monster.com i didn't found anything.
 > Do you know compagnies using Delphi/FreePascal and hiring ?
 > Thanks,
 > Marc
 > 
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt Emson

> What is the exact status of Zeta ? Is a free version available, and can it
> be run in one of the virtualisation suits?

BeOS, yes. Zeta no. The difference is in the API. However, at some point
fairly soon, Zeta moves from GCC 2.95 to GCC 4, so a lot of things will
break and be in a flux. Haiku would be a better basis, however Haiku is not
stable enough to support such a thing. BeOS is your best option currently.
On an API level, current Zeta is fairly compatible with BeOS, so a BeOS
compiler would work for Zeta.

M

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho

But is there such a thing as a free download of beos?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt Emson
> But is there such a thing as a free download of beos?

BeOS R5 PE - runs from a 500MB virtual partition  -
http://bebits.com/app/2680
BeOS MAX - installs to a hard disk, a new version is in BETA -
http://bebits.com/app/3892

MAX is your best bet. BeOS is quite picky with hardware though. Mainly
because it hasn't been commercially developed since 1999/2000. If something
doesn't work, it's either because it's not supported, there's some kind of
IRQ conflict, you're motherboard is pretending to be "Plug and play" (turn
it off if you have the option) or your missing a driver. In the latter case,
a quick look on BeBits usually finds whether or not you're in luck.

I'd be willing to help someone get the build environment set-up. I can offer
advice etc. I don't have an intel BeOS machine at the moment, so I can't
help with compilation. All my Be boxes (Mac and BeBox) are PowerPC. As
porting FPC to BeOS for PowerPC is impossible, I'll not dwell on that ;-)

M


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho

The wikipedia article about zeta doesn´t look very promissing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnussoft_ZETA

On 3/29/07, Matt Emson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As porting FPC to BeOS for PowerPC is impossible, I'll not dwell on that ;-)


why?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt Emson
> The wikipedia article about zeta doesn´t look very promissing:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnussoft_ZETA

That's a bit political thing. Bernd Kortz is the guy that licensed the code
from Palmsource/Access. He's the guy we need to worry about ;-)

> > As porting FPC to BeOS for PowerPC is impossible, I'll not dwell on that
;-)
>
> why?

It uses Apple's PEF as its binary format, it uses Metrowerks as its C++
compiler (mwcc, mwld et al) and no assembler was ever produced (bar inline
assembler.) Without an assembler, or bintools that target PEF, there's
simply no way to make FPC work natively. Interestingly, the C++ ABI is the
same as the one Apple Mac's use (seemingly) as least with Metrowerks tools.
If Metrowerks ever released a Codewarrior MWOB binary objectfile compatible
assembler in source form, porting it would be fairly simple and I guess it
would make an FPC port more likely.

I ran some tests a few years ago, and Metrowerks CW 9 (latest version I
have - runs under MacOS X) and Metrowerks CW 6 both produce valid BeOS
executables if you use the Be headers and libs (copied to MacOS obviously.)
I guess, it's possible to hack a command like assembler from MacOS to work,
but I wouldn't like to try to do it... Some kind of compatibility lib might
work with *a lot* of work.

BeOS for PPC is a dead end though. Not worth the effort. Maybe in my
retirement in 30 odd years ;-)

M

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho

On 3/29/07, Matt Emson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It uses Apple's PEF as its binary format, it uses Metrowerks as its C++
compiler (mwcc, mwld et al) and no assembler was ever produced (bar inline
assembler.)


Lol!!! That´s exactly the same problem I faced with the symbian os emulator.

What´s wrong with codewarrior? They don´t like to release assemblers???

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Fpc running in Zeta?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt Emson
> What´s wrong with codewarrior? They don´t like to release assemblers???

That's Metrowerks for you. They *never* seem to produce assemblers. But,
with the Apple platform, you had MPW, so that wasn't an issue. Else where
... ah.. problem!

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Looking for a FreePascal Job

2007-03-29 Thread Olivier Coursiere

Hi Marc,

There are some Delphi jobs here (no freepascal ones) : 
http://emploi.isagri.fr/. This is the company where i work.


Olivier

Marc Pertron a écrit :

Hi,
I'm looking for a new job and i was looking for a compagny using 
freepascal.

Even on monster.com i didn't found anything.
Do you know compagnies using Delphi/FreePascal and hiring ?
Thanks,
Marc

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