Re: [Flash Builder] Mystery email from Adobe Licensing

[charles.monte...@gmail.com]

I appreciated the post. Thanks

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From: "Kevo X Thomson" 
To: , 
Subject: [Flash Builder] Mystery email from Adobe Licensing
Date: Sat, Dec 8, 2012 5:54 pm


Still, those using Flash Builder 4.7 would have found that they required a
new serial number to continue using it.

I thought I might share my findings with others who might have been
affected in the same way. I'm sorry if I ruffled your feathers or broke
etiquette by posting something off topic, but helpful to this mailing list.

It was my first post to the group, and most likely my last.

On 8 December 2012 22:46, Jeffry Houser  wrote:

>
>
> On 12/8/2012 5:37 PM, Kevo X Thomson wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, you need Flash Builder 4.7 to work with Apache Flex.
>>
>
>  You are misinformed:
>
>  If you want to develop applications with Apache Flex 4.8, you can use
> Flash Builder 4.6 just fine.  You can use IntelliJ.  You can use command
> line tools.  I assume FDT would also support it--but have not tried that
> myself.
>
>  If you want to work on the Flex SDK; any of the above options will also
> work.
>
>  If you have questions about Flash Builder, this may be the place to ask
> them: 
> http://forums.adobe.com/**community/flash_builderor
>  possibly here:
> http://helpx.adobe.com/**support.html
>
> --
> Jeffry Houser
> Technical Entrepreneur
> 203-379-0773
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Re: Suggestion : Adopt a package manager like Ruby Gems for Flex as a first class citizen of the SDK

[charles.monte...@gmail.com]

Exactly

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From: "Jonathan Campos" 
To: 
Subject: Suggestion : Adopt a package manager like Ruby Gems for Flex as a 
first class citizen of the SDK
Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 4:57 pm


On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Сергей aSt Егоров wrote:

> No, Jesus! No!
>
> I don't want install ruby when i use flex, it's awful
>

Slow down. I think the idea is good though others immediately thought of
this as a Ruby dependency.

The idea of Gems is similar to the idea of SWCs. This would mean that there
would be a utility somewhere (maybe just an AIR app) that goes out and gets
the SWCs you want along with keeping them up to date. I think this would be
great for sharing libraries between projects.

With gems you can just point to the github repo for the gem and be done.
Something like this could be very powerful to help sharing.

It isn't a bad idea. Don't focus on the Ruby side of it; just put it into
Flexxy terms.

-- 
Jonathan Campos

Re: can't download 4.8

[charles.monte...@gmail.com]

I must admit that I still need design view and rely on fb for packaging / export

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From: "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" 
To: 
Subject: can't download 4.8
Date: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 2:48 pm


That should be all you need.  Keep in mind that some features of Flash
Builder are built around specific SDK versions.  For example, design view,
will not work right with the new version.

I personally am using that method for compiling projects within IntelliJ
with no issues.

-Nick

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Charles Monteiro <
char...@monteirosfusion.com> wrote:

> brilliant deduction :)
>
> that was indeed the problem. I'm installing Apache Flex at the moment. My
> main reason is to test whether my apps will work with it without issue. So
> I will have to point IDEA and FB to use the apache sdk.
>
> Is it as simple as that ? i.e. just telling FB and IDEA in the "regular"
> way to use the specified sdk or is there anything that I need to be aware
> of ?
>
> sorry for the newbieness, Flex is still relatively new to me.
>
> thanks
>
> -charles
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Michael A. Labriola <
> labri...@digitalprimates.net> wrote:
>
> > >Can you try it on firefox and/or IE to see if the same problem exists?
> > >I am behind a proxy and for the life of me, I am not able to figure out
> > how to install Chrome on my machine..  Sorry.
> >
> > Just as another data point. I installed Chrome on a Windows 7 Home
> Premium
> > 64 bit machine and hit the URL.
> >
> > I did not have the problem as demonstrated in the video. This isn't to
> say
> > there isn't an issue, but rather that I don't think it is based on those
> > configuration parameters.
> >
> > Is there a chance you are running out of disk space on the drive where
> you
> > are attempting to install the SDK?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Charles A. Monteiro
> www.monteirosfusion.com
> sent from the road
>

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

[charles.monte...@gmail.com]

Idea has a plugin with that approach but it doesn't support drag drop design, 
rather it renders the hand coded mxml and let's you conffigure. Unfortunately 
still too buggy and again no drag drop design

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From: "Peter Ent" 
To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" 
Subject: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools
Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:47 am


This is a good opportunity for [someone in] the Apache Flex community to
develop such a tool. Using Apache Flex, an AIR app would be able to
present UI components rendered correctly, in real-time, and be able to
read and write local files. If Adobe does not contribute UI tools, the
community can make their own. There are many talented people here with the
background to do this. Of course, time and resources are probably the
biggest constraints.

Peter Ent
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems.

On 10/2/12 6:52 AM, "Michael Schmalle"  wrote:

>Quoting Sebastian Mohr :
>
>> Nope ... I am seeing Flash Catalyst as being the representation for
>> Adobe's work on the Spark-Component model, FXG and Flash Catalyst
>> (formerly codenamed Thermo) with the Designer-Developer workflow
>> started in 2007 [1]. For whatever reasons it took ages to finish it.
>
>
>For the same reason the Spark component set isn't finished and the
>same reason why Flex is now an Apache project and the same reason why
>they axed design view in Flash Builder and the same reason they
>renamed Flex Builder to Flash Builder.
>
>
>-- 
>Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
>http://www.teotigraphix.com
>http://blog.teotigraphix.com
>

Re: To AS4 or not

[charles.monte...@gmail.com]

This now getting troubling if people are representing things correctly. Are all 
current flex based mobile apps doomed ?

When is AS4 due?  Do we know for sure when the new vm's will cut out support 
for As 3 which is required for flex support?
Should I be coding in pure AS ?

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From: "sébastien Paturel" 
To: 
Subject: To AS4 or not
Date: Fri, Oct 19, 2012 6:02 pm


So the only way to make flex run on the new VM is to rewrite the SDK 
code, and with no easy way to do so?
Do you know if the next AIR runtime will only work for AS4?

Le 19/10/2012 23:53, Gordon Smith a écrit :
> I think this would be difficult as the new VM is not designed to run AS3.
>
> - Gordon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:50 PM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
>
> and using Falcon to compile AS3 to generate new VM bytecode?
> is it more realistic to achieve?
>
> Le 19/10/2012 20:54, Gordon Smith a écrit :
>>> Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't be open sourced but would it be possible 
>>> to adapt Falcon to target the new VM?
>> Yes, it would be possible. Falcon/ASC 2.0 was the starting point for Adobe's 
>> development of an AS4 compiler. But it's been many developer-years of work 
>> for us and it isn't trivial. ActionScript is more complex than MXML.
>>
>> - Gordon
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: João Fernandes [mailto:joaopedromartinsfernan...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:53 AM
>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon)
>>
>> Alex, couldn't we simply use AS4 and have multiple target platforms ?
>>
>> Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't be open sourced but would it be possible to 
>> adapt Falcon to target the new VM?

Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon

[charles.monte...@gmail.com]

I had seen that before but had forgotten , thanks for pointing this out, so to 
summarize any 4.6 based apps will at the very least run on whatever runtimes 
are put out by adobe for the next 5 year's , that certainly allows for some 
time to figure out a forward path, pls correct if that's the wrong conclusion

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From: "Om" 
To: 
Subject: ASC 2.0 and Falcon
Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 3:08 pm


From the Adobe Flex Whitepapaper [1]

Adobe runtime support of Flex
> Flash Player 11.2 and Adobe AIR 3.2, which are anticipated to ship in the
> first quarter of 2012, will be tested with applications built using Adobe
> Flex 4.6. *Adobe will test future releases of Flash Player and AIR
> against the Adobe Flex 4.6 SDK and maintain backwards compatibility for
> five years.*


[1]  http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html

Thanks,
Om

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM, sébastien Paturel
wrote:

> Hi Thibault,
> Thanks for the precision.
> But one last info needed: will next AIR for mobile runtime will embed only
> the new vm? meaning that only ASNext projects will be able to run with AIR
> on new mobile devices / OS targetted by Adobe?
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
>
> Le 25/10/2012 17:53, Thibault Imbert a écrit :
>
>  Hi Sebastien,
>>
>> To confirm, such a framework like Feathers or Starling would have to be
>> updated to ASNext to run on the new VM.
>>
>> Sent from mobile, please pardon brevity/errors.
>> __**__
>> From: sébastien Paturel
>> Sent: 10/25/2012 8:45 AM
>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon
>>
>> In the short term, it will be needed by flex to run on VM3, to be able
>> to create apps for new mobile hardware, and run better on retina Display.
>> According to jonathan Campos, it is feasable to render flex sdk on
>> starling for the next main release.
>> And if i understand well what thibault said, we don't need anything more
>> then that to run on next VM (for example no need to be AS4)
>> "having a look at Feathers (work from Josh >Tynjala - feathersui.com) on
>> top of Starling, which will run beautifully in our next runtime"
>> It still has to be confirmed, but it could be a good short term solution
>> (still relying on Adobe's runtime), to let flex the time to do more deep
>> mutli target long term changes, even if it means starting again from
>> scratch.
>>
>> If the solution is to start over, it could be the perfect time to ask if
>> AS3 is the better choice for a multi target language, and if flex should
>> not leverage what has been done with haxe.
>> thats the question i was asking to Alex (i was not meaning AS4)
>>
>> jangaroo is great, but only for JS transcompilation, and future flex
>> will need to target more platforms, like Haxe does.
>> i wonder how jangaroo resolved issues with AS3 to JS compilation, that
>> haxe resolved by dropping the feature directly from the language?
>>
>>
>> Le 25/10/2012 17:01, Kevin Newman a écrit :
>>
>>> On 10/18/12 7:28 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>>
 Yes, the community has to figure out what the essence of Flex really
 is. To me, it's an rapid-development application framework, the
 combination of a procedural language with a declarative language, and
 a widely-deployed runtime that can support RIAs. The runtime of the
 future for RIAs seems to be native code for mobile devices and
 HTML/Javascript for browser apps. The best procedural language is
 anything that can be compiled to these runtimes. MXML is a perfectly
 good declarative language for UIs.

>>> Maybe the real discussion should be less about supporting AVM3 and
>>> more about supporting a native compile framework - something like haXe
>>> NME maybe (already open source). How much of Adobe's LLVM based iOS
>>> AOT source is open? (if any)
>>>
>>> http://www.haxenme.org/
>>>
>>> For Javascript, there's already Jangaroo (open source):
>>> http://www.jangaroo.net/home/
>>>
>>> Kevin N.
>>>
>>>
>>
>