[FFmpeg-user] Find all IDR frames of a video with respective timestamps

2024-06-28 Thread Richard Bartczak via ffmpeg-user

Hello,

nothing I have found. Neither via ffprobe, nor via ffmpeg, I have found
a solution.

Gloster

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Find all IDR frames of a video with respective timestamps

2024-06-28 Thread Mark Filipak

On 28/06/2024 14.42, Richard Bartczak via ffmpeg-user wrote:

Hello,

nothing I have found. Neither via ffprobe, nor via ffmpeg, I have found
a solution.


A solution to what, Gloster? What are you trying to solve?

I'll give my latest take on IDR frames: They don't exist, per se. What I think an IDR frame is, is 
an ordinary I-frame, open or closed GOP, that follows a closed GOP.


 closed GOP _ _ An IDR frame
DTS order ..B B P I P B B P..
^
   open GOP _ _ Not an IDR frame
DTS order   ..B B I P B B P..
  ^^^
  The difference is here

Now, in MPEG-2 TSes, there may be an MPEG tag that forces the previous GOP to _become_ a closed GOP, 
but I doubt it because that would require all decoders to buffer all B-frames up to the next P- or 
I-frame and to then throw them away if the next I-frame said "IDR"! That defeats the purpose of open 
GOP, and, besides that, what's on the screen in the meantime? Nothing? A picture repeat? No, no, no.


Yesterday I read that mastering authors are recommending that open GOP be avoided so that all 
I-frames are automatically IDR frames.


It looks to me that MPEG has produced another dog's breakfast.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] key frame

2024-06-28 Thread Mark Filipak

On 27/06/2024 19.27, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user wrote:

  Mark,
For the purpose of being able to look at frame sequences easily, you can 
probably just use something like Resolve.


Thank you, Phil. I tried it on your suggestion. In 48 years of personal computing, that is most 
aggressive application I've ever run. I will start and end on this: It created 14 open firewall 
_input_ ports with 14 listeners under 4 different service names.


As is always the case when I install new software, I disconnected the network before I began and 
checked the firewall after the install and before reconnecting the network.


I have to consider Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve to be a virus hub that is probably selling access to 
my system through those ports to outside clients. If you are running it, I recommend you repair your 
computer. I will help you if you ask.


--Mark.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] key frame

2024-06-28 Thread Richard Bartczak via ffmpeg-user

Mark  an american, stupi..,  like possible.

Where a medicine, no.

Gloster

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] key frame

2024-06-28 Thread Srikanth Kotagiri
If you have unlimited funds the I recommend you get Elecard StreamEye for
inspecting your ts and elementary streams.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 8:27 AM Richard Bartczak via ffmpeg-user <
ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> wrote:

> Mark  an american, stupi..,  like possible.
>
> Where a medicine, no.
>
> Gloster
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] key frame

2024-06-28 Thread Mark Filipak

On 28/06/2024 22.57, Richard Bartczak via ffmpeg-user wrote:

Mark  an american, stupi..,  like possible.

Where a medicine, no.

Gloster


Oh, dear...

Hey, Gloster, do you have the European sickness?

I'm 3rd generation Polish-American. If I was in Poland, I'd be Marek Filipiak. Do you hate me? Do 
you want to conquer me? Do you want to be the Holy Roman Emperor/Kaiser/Czar/Caesar and grind me 
under your heel?


Are y'all a bigot, Gloster?

Hahaha...

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] key frame

2024-06-28 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu
чт, 27 июн. 2024 г., 23:39 Mark Filipak :

> Hello All,
>
> I'm considering buying professional video software to evaluate and analyze
> FFmpeg trims and splices
> and for troubleshooting. My objective is to improve my edits, and to
> improve FFmpeg. I'm retired, I
> have plenty of time, I have plenty of money.
>

It really hard to know what is real thing and what is just advertizement,
but may be asking around this site/program will move you closer to your
goal?

https://www.jongbel.com/manual-analysis/mpeg-ts-utils/




>  From here:
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/uc_system/design/guides/videodg/vidguide/basics.html
> "I-frames are also known as key frames because their content is
> independent of any other frames and
> they can be used as a reference for other frames."
>
> If "key frame" is simply another name for an I-frame, why are there two
> names? pdr0 & Balling at
> trac.ffmpeg.org hint that key frames are specific I-frames with specific
> methods but they don't
> elaborate and I don't want to burden them.
>
> I'd appreciate an explanation of 'key frame', or a link to an existing
> explanation of course. All I
> can find is keyframe animation, which of course is a technique, not an
> MPEG method.
>
> Thank you,
> Mark.
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