Re: KDE: Default Style

2007-12-04 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Monday 03 of December 2007 10:26:40 Laith Juwaidah napisaƂ(a):
> I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better looks
> than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE, now that
> KDE4 is on the way, it will have even more power, and I really don't think
> we should take that away from KDE users just because GNOME can't do that!

I see that kind of behavior as trollish.

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Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Sourada
I don't know, what he meant, but he replied so that I am not sure the
others caught what I meant - I mean focus ring style for other
components than button, that can have focus, as well.

On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> You mean button's focus style or button's style?
> 
> Dnia 01-12-2007, sob o godzinie 17:11 +0100, Mark pisze:
> > > >  1| http://img.wklej.org/images/12466focus-clearlooks.png
> > 
> > > Yep, complete rework of focus rings is on the schedule. For the buttons
> > > I'll probably make it similar to Clearlooks, as with other components I
> > > am not sure yet. It needs to be modern looking, easy to perceive and we
> > > need to get rid of the ugly looking dash-lined rectangles... Sketches,
> > > suggestions, patches welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Martin
> > 
> > Do you need sketches? i would go for the clearlooks. Nodoka with the
> > clearlooks button style.. seems a perfect fit to me.
> > 
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Re: KDE: Default Style

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Sourada

On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:26 +0100, Laith Juwaidah wrote:
> -1
> 
> I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better
> looks than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE,
Let's face the fact that this is quite subjective. The default KDE look
seems to me like unfinished work, while the default GNOME look
(Clearlooks) is polished and professional. One of the reasons I don't
use KDE is that it looked ugly to me with every theme I tried. KDE4
seems to be getting better, we'll see...

>  now that KDE4 is on the way, it will have even more power, and I
> really don't think we should take that away from KDE users just
> because GNOME can't do that!
> 
Default theme is not about power. It is about clean a professional look.
Eyecandy like animations, reflections, ... sure does more harm than
good. Try to use one theme for several years. With most of the themes
out in the wild you'll get bored of them after few months, while
Clearlooks is the exact opposite, and I hope Nodoka is going to be same
in that way.

> Cheers!
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Re: KDE: Default Style

2007-12-04 Thread Laith Juwaidah
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 14:45:53 Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:26 +0100, Laith Juwaidah wrote:
> > -1
> >
> > I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better
> > looks than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE,
>
> Let's face the fact that this is quite subjective. The default KDE look
> seems to me like unfinished work, while the default GNOME look
> (Clearlooks) is polished and professional. One of the reasons I don't
> use KDE is that it looked ugly to me with every theme I tried. KDE4
> seems to be getting better, we'll see...

I'm not talking about the default theme, I remeber when I first tried Linux, 
it was SuSE Enterprise Linux Desktop (10 I guess), it had both GNOME and KDE 
installed but the default desktop environment was GNOME, I did't know Linux 
had more than one desktop environment and all that, so I just kept using 
GNOME, I tried to change the way it looks, but... The only one that I found I 
liked was Industrial, then, I found the miracle of KDE, I tried it and I had 
much more choices by default, and all of them look better than GNOME's, well, 
other than redmonde :P

>
> >  now that KDE4 is on the way, it will have even more power, and I
> > really don't think we should take that away from KDE users just
> > because GNOME can't do that!
>
> Default theme is not about power. It is about clean a professional look.
> Eyecandy like animations, reflections, ... sure does more harm than
> good. Try to use one theme for several years. With most of the themes
> out in the wild you'll get bored of them after few months, while
> Clearlooks is the exact opposite, and I hope Nodoka is going to be same
> in that way.
>

I agree with you that a theme gets boring after a while (I pitty windows 
users :P) but I totally disagree when it comes to clearlooks, it's just 
another theme, people will get bored of it after a while.

Plus, the default theme is not the way you measure how powerful a desktop 
environment is, when it comes to graphics, it's about what the comunity can 
create for it using whatever is provided to them by the developers.

I'm not here to criticise GNOME, all I'm saying is that when it comes to 
decorations, KDE can do more.

Cheers!

> > Cheers!
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Re: Request for project icon and logo

2007-12-04 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
Cool, Any way we can get a matching "D-Feet" spelled out for the web
page?

 
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 17:04 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >> John (J5) Palmieri wrote:
> >>> Hey guys I have a project I am releasing through Fedora.  It is called
> >>> D-Feet and is a GTK+ based debugger for D-Bus.  Go wild, I just want
> >>> something that is readily identifiable.
> >>
> >> Here are a couple of unpolished sketches.
> > 
> > And a shinier version (still no Tango and no Echo). I'm not sure if the 
> > perspective is the best one here.
> 
> This should be better.
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