Re: [Evolution] Evolution Freezing and IPv6
On Mon, 2022-10-31 at 13:35 -0400, my-no-spam--- via evolution-list wrote: > I've noticed that if I enable IPv6, evolution just hangs opening my > mail and sometimes just freezes if left open. If I disable IPv6, the > application performs like a rock star. Any ideas where I might start > troubleshooting this? I have watched the network connectivity and, > from > what I see, it appears that only one of the three connections to the > remote server actually gets established. It's unclear whether you're switching while Evo is running, or if you completely shut it down first. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 08:19 +0800, Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list wrote: > Many people have contributed their ideas as to how to move forward so > I > hope there is enough now suggested so that we can do that. > > Can I ask the Moderators and those that contribute a lot to this list > to decide where we migrate to before they shut us down. > I for one don't what to be left hanging and will happily "follow the > leaders". I've contacted the other moderators to see if we can reach a consensus on this, but have yet to hear back from them. We'll certainly inform the list if we have something to say. At the moment, my impression is that everyone is waiting for someone else to take a decision, and time is passing by. Clearly the moderators can't simply dictate what's going to happen. As things stand, it appears to be inevitable that the current list will be discontinued and that Evolution support will be provided on Discourse, no matter what any of us think. Therefore the temptation to set up a new list independent of gnome.org has to be weighed against the probable fragmentation of the community, which would not be ideal. However it's not out of the question. One thing I can say is that I would not take on the responsibility of managing a new list on my own. Moderating the current list is not a particularly onerous task because much of the infrastructure is provided by Gnome and we interact with it using a Mailman web page. Also, it's shared among three people. However anyone who proposes a new list should be willing to take on the task of administering it. A Mailman system would probably be easiest, but it would need to be set up and populated i.e. users would have to go through the individual registration system since as Milan pointed out we probably can't simply import the current membership automatically. Cheers poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > One thing I can say is that I would not take on the responsibility > > of > > managing a new list on my own. Moderating the current list is not a > > particularly onerous task because much of the infrastructure is > > provided by Gnome and we interact with it using a Mailman web page. > > Also, it's shared among three people. However anyone who proposes a > > new > > list should be willing to take on the task of administering it. > > This already been taken care of. It hasn't been "taken care of". You have indeed set up a list, but others have also mentioned alternatives. What I would hope is that there be some agreement to avoid fracturing the community more than is necessary. > If people choose to disregard what has been done for them, and simply > keep discussing, and not doing anything about it, then that is their > choice. > > I will not again mention on this list, that a mailing list has been > set > up, by someone willing to administer it, to which, so far, only about > thirty people have subscribed. Not mentioning it is hardly the best way to get sign-ups. I confess that with the multiple discussions around this in the past couple of weeks I'd actually forgotten about it (I've also been ill). No doubt some others are in the same position. > It is clear that the vast majority simply do not want a mailing list. I disagree. I think the majority is waiting to see what the majority wants. This is not uncommon in communities where most people are fairly passive participants. I also that your own first post on this list appears to be dated October 23. > And, with that, I will not mention it again on this list. > > The new list that was set up, has been, now, mentioned enough, by me, > on this list. Do you envisage some decision process for any proposed policy changes, or do you intend to be Benevolent Dictator For Life? What about moderation? Is that going to be only you? I'd also question the phrase "the gnomes" in your list's description page. Perhaps a more diplomatic phrasing would avoid needless sniping. It may well turn out that your list is the most frictionless option, and you do have "first mover" advantage, but I think more people should chip in here. All the best. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 16:27 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > It is clear that the vast majority simply do not want a mailing > > list. > > Hi, > well, I believe that's a wrong assumption. You might also consider > that > if "random people create random list" is not the right thing to do. > The > community should work together, not to be split, because some random > folks think they do the best for the community even they do not wait > for the community decision. Okay, yes, there is not much time, > that's > true, but still. As had been said by someone, there can be made also > a > Discourse post about where the "real" new mailing list is handled. > > That's the reason why I didn't act on my own and did not create the > list myself, on a place I would prefer. I want to be sure the people > are willing to move that way first. And there are supposed to be > multiple moderators/admins, as poc said. I'm not the admin at the > moment and I'd prefer not to be. I've no idea how long I'll stay with > the project and my free time is kinda limited, as for everybody else. > > poc, there had been multiple people offering help even with the > infrastructure. In case the current list admins do not respond, say > till the 6th (this Sunday), would it make sense to engage those > folks, > if they are still willing to co-admin the list, wherever it is? There > should be a voice from them too, of course. I suppose to make the > list > alive will take some time, hence I chose the 6th, to have at least a > week for it to set up. > > Bret, what about you? Would you be willing to co-admin such list? > > I think there had been at least two other folks mentioned here, but I > lost their names, I'm sorry. If you read this, please respond. > > Just my personal opinion and thoughts. I basically agree with all the above. If there is general agreement, I'm willing to continue as a co-moderator, but equally willing to pass that on to someone else. In case it's not sufficiently clear: we are moderators, not administrators. We have *no power* over the list other than defining certain policies (e.g. no digests), dealing with spam, and managing membership. We have nothing to do with the hosting platform or the Mailman implementation. IOW a decision to set up an alternate list doesn't rely on us in any way. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 10:45 -0500, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote: > I know I said I would not chime in again regarding the mailing list, > but I also subscribe to one other list "network-manager" that is/was > housed on gnome infrastructure. Today I received a very simple email > from it that stated it was being re-homed to a freedesktop.org list > and a simple reply to that email (with nothing else) subscribed me to > it. > > I think that should be possible here as well, no? Not sure how that works. Was that email addressed directly to you, or was it a general post to the list? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 17:26 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list wrote: > +1 from me for this option if it is possible to do with that list as > well. What option? Please quote some context when replying, otherwise it's not clear what you mean. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 18:02 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list wrote: > Dnia 2.11.2022 o godz. 12:36:54 Paul Smith pisze: > > to create such a list, and (b) someone with admin privileges to the > > current list to get all the subscriber emails so they can be bulk- > > added. I know that moderators don't have such privileges (I run > > some > > mailman lists myself as an admin, with some moderators helping). > > It depends on the settings of the particular list. You can configure > the > list so that even any subscriber has access to the subscribers list. > > Of course, this list can be quite possibly configured so that only > admin has > access to that list. The moderators can see all the subscribers. However that data is not available to us as a simple text file, CSV file or database, but as a set of web pages, ordered alphabetically. There are no facilities for dumping the entire list, or for uploading a list of subscribers. There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have Mailman2 and Gnome isn't going to change it. So sending individual messages to each member means doing it manually 850 or so times or writing some web-scraping software to get the info. No thanks. Clearly the transition to Discourse will use some automated procedure, but that's under the control of Gnome admins, not us. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 08:03 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:20 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list > wrote: > > I offered, and still do offer, to host mail.gnome.org. > > Hi, > thanks for the offer, and even I do not speak for the GNOME admins, > do > not count with it, they are not going to do/allow it. > > What about co-moderating the new evo list, wherever it will be? > > Speaking of which, as other mailing list(s) are moving to the > freedesktop.org (the network manager list had been mentioned here), I > think, and believe, it would be a perfect fit for the evo list as > well. I tend to agree. Although munging the DNS record would be the most painless solution, I really doubt that Gnome would allow it as they would be in effect handing over responsibility for part of their own domain, at least in terms of perception. If we can get a Gnome admin to provide a membership list in a format suitable for upload to Mailman3, I think this is a promising direction to go in. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have Mailman2 > and Gnome isn't going to change it. Turns out that freedesktop.org also uses Mailman2. However that version does allow the list owner to upload a list of subscribers, something I hadn't noticed before now. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 19:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 13:47 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have > > > Mailman2 > > > and Gnome isn't going to change it. > > > > Turns out that freedesktop.org also uses Mailman2. However that > > version > > does allow the list owner to upload a list of subscribers, > > something I > > hadn't noticed before now. > > I pointed this out earlier and recommended to ask if they will > migrate > to Mailman 3 or a similar mailing list software or if they consider > to > migrate to a forum software, too. I'll bear that in mind. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 02:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Not that it really matters now, but top-posting & HTML mail is > frowned > on here ... > > And your quoting levels are screwed up ... > > And you really should trim posts to just relevant stuff. You aren't > inhabiting an Outlook only world these days ... > > On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 23:46 +, Mike wrote: > > > Yes the VM is, and was, off. > > > > > > And anyway, both are set to leave mail on the server for six days > > > during this rollout of the new platform. So it should not make a > > > difference. :-) I have a mail app running on my Adroid Cell phone > > > and it loaded mail right along with MS Outlook for many years > > > without an issue. So I fail to see how that would or should > > > matter. > > Because sometimes another application grabs an email and marks it as > read before your Evolution can see it. > > Anyway, in another email that seems to have been tagged as spam and > is > awaiting moderation I said that you need to look at the bar above the > message list and make sure the "Show:" drop down says "All Messages" > and not something like "Read Messages". > > But I see yet another of my messages has been tagged as spam for no > good reason. You might, eventually, see this message ... Pete, I've no idea why some of your posts were held for moderation. I've approved them and they should have appeared by now. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Why are my messages being tagged as spam and being moderated? on this list??
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 02:15 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Camels and straws come to mind ... Just noticed this and cleared the block. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 12:53 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 08:03 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:20 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > I offered, and still do offer, to host mail.gnome.org. > > > > Hi, > > thanks for the offer, and even I do not speak for the GNOME admins, > > do > > not count with it, they are not going to do/allow it. > > > > What about co-moderating the new evo list, wherever it will be? > > > > Speaking of which, as other mailing list(s) are moving to the > > freedesktop.org (the network manager list had been mentioned here), > > I > > think, and believe, it would be a perfect fit for the evo list as > > well. > > I tend to agree. Although munging the DNS record would be the most > painless solution, I really doubt that Gnome would allow it as they > would be in effect handing over responsibility for part of their own > domain, at least in terms of perception. > > If we can get a Gnome admin to provide a membership list in a format > suitable for upload to Mailman3, I think this is a promising > direction > to go in. I mailed the freedesktop people a couple of days ago: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/sitewranglers/2022-November/013286.html but have had no reply. Possibly that isn't the right mailing address, but it was the only one I could see that seemed relevant. If anyone has more insight, please let me know. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 14:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 14:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > 1. > > https://osuosl.org/services/hosting/ > > https://osuosl.org/request-hosting/ > > The mc mailing list already migrated from gnome.org to OSU OSL. > Yury V. Zaytsev yury at shurup.com seems to be the one responsible > for > doing it. Consider to ask Yury V. Zaytsev. > > https://lists.midnight-commander.org/pipermail/mc/2022-October/005510.html > https://lists.midnight-commander.org/mailman/listinfo/mc I've contacted OSUOSL about this. Let's see what they say. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?
On Sun, 2022-11-06 at 06:07 +, Mike wrote: > I purged evolution from the PC, deleted the .config/evolution > folders, deleted the trash, rebooted, reinstalled at 12:36 and ran it > at 12:37. I did not import the backup file, so that isn't the > problem. > None of these errors are in the VM install though the VM install > happened only five days ago, both via ftp.debian.org via apt-get onto > the same computer (one instance the VirtualBox Debian 11.5 and the > other on the actual hardware running Debian 11.5) [...] This is really quite difficult to read. Please refrain from posting in HTML on this list, or replying on HTML formatting to make the post readable. The standard used here is plain text, and most people don't even look at the HTML version if it exists. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 08:47 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 02.11.2022 um 20:09 + schrieb Patrick > O'Callaghan: > > What option? Please quote some context when replying, otherwise > > it's > > not clear what you mean. > > In general you are right, but that answer was a reply to only one > option available in that mail from Greg asking if that would be > possible as well, so it is clear even without quoting it - just to be > complete: > > ... > re-homed to a freedesktop.org list > ... Sorry, but it really isn't at all clear unless the reader scrolls back to look at the earlier mail you are replying to, which for some people might mean looking at the archive. That's why we encourage people to always quote the relevant part when replying. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 11:56 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list wrote: > Am Montag, dem 07.11.2022 um 10:40 + schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Sorry, but it really isn't at all clear unless the reader scrolls > > back > > to look at the earlier mail you are replying to, which for some > > people > > might mean looking at the archive. That's why we encourage people > > to > > always quote the relevant part when replying. > > > > poc > > I don't expect that people are scrolling if they use the threading > info > on the mail which puts it where it does belong in evolution - we're > on > the evolution list, right ;) - with threaded view on it is placed > where > it should and that people archive their mails on an ongoing > discussion > ... may happen yes, but in that case => yes they need the archive if > they want to have context - or just ignore it ;) > > So we can agree to disagree on that matter (partly) and move on ;-). I think it's unwise to assume that everyone reads mail in the same way, or that everyone keeps every ongoing thread in their mailbox (even assuming there is a precise meaning for "ongoing"). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 18:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 09:07 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > quoted context > > Hi, > > right now the same topic is endlessly discussed on > questi...@freebsd.org > and on evolution-list@gnome.org . It is discussed every now and then > on > every computer related mailing list. On questi...@freebsd.org and on > evolution-list@gnome.org it's not discussed for the first time, it's > not > discussed for the second time, it's not discussed for the... > > If somebody is new to a computer related mailing list or if somebody > every now and then makes a mistake, be polite. If a subscriber wants > to > change common computer mailing list's posting style rules, ignore the > subscriber. > > If an English language mailing list is to old fashioned, because it > isn't hip anymore to write from left to right and from top to bottom > or > to reply by using context, people are free to use a hip media. > Everybody > is free trying to solve a technical issue by exchanging ideas with > spaghetti formatted HTML text and thumbs up icons. > > The next step is to use software written in > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_code . > > An insider tip, spaghetti code is the new black. I think it's probably better to drop this discussion, at least for now. We are in the process of trying to decide whether to set up a new list. If people want to discuss correct usage on that new list, if and when it happens, then fine, but for now let's all take a step back. Thanks. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list
On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 08:46 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 19:40 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > At any moment now posting access to this mailing list can be > > removed > > without further warning, so once again I want to make you aware of > > the alt-evolution mailing list, which is a "plan B". > > Hi, > what a nice coincidence. We are currently in the process of setting > up > the new list, poc may send a note about it, unless he'll consider > this > mine as a replacement. > > First of all, I've got a note from a GNOME admin that the lists will > possibly shut down within 7 to 10 days since yesterday. There should > be > set up a new list meanwhile. > > While I've been very keen on the freedesktop.org hosting, we received > a > response from them that they do not intent to host any desktop > applications in their mailing lists, thus this site is out of > question. > > There is an ongoing work to setup the list under lists.osuosl.org, > with > a name evolution-us...@lists.osuosl.org . It's not done yet, there > will > be a separate email about it once it's done. This is a very fresh > information, it happened roughly 9 hours ago (which is why I begun > this > email with "what a nice coincidence"). I guess the new name is fine, > but if anyone has a better suggestion or an objection, then do not > hesitate and express your opinion on it. > > I plan to update the user documentation and the Wiki page with the > new > official mailing list once the things are set up, though the users > with > an old/ancient Evolution, even the current online help, will still > reference this list. There's not much I can do about it, I'm afraid. > > I'd like to thank poc, as he's leading this effort and he does all > the > paper work behind it. > > That being said: stay tuned, you'll be updated when the things are > ready. Yes, I was about to say much the same but you got in ahead of me Milan :-) Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few days. We'll make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've decided not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, i.e. users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is mainly to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security information to a new site. We expect the current list to continue as part of the Gnome Discourse system, but we aren't in control of that. This means that there will be (at least) two lists going forward, which is unfortunate but unavoidable. Stay tuned. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do we do now? V4 - need to decide.
On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 08:54 +0800, Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list wrote: > Hi all, > as Steve has mention it is my understanding also that at any moment > now > this list will stop. > > Please could the moderators/admin/main contributors please have a > discussion and decide where we move to. > > If we can be automatically moved great but not required. > I am very sure the people on the list will follow if we are given the > statement "This list is now at ., please subscribe (or > whatever)". See Milan and my replies within that thread. Please don't break threading. When the new list is ready, we'll announce it as a separate posting. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list
On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 15:59 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:37:33 + > > > > > > Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few days. > > We'll > > make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've > > decided > > not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, i.e. > > users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is > > mainly > > to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security > > information to a new site. > > Understood, but how will you tell all of us the subscription process > if > the current list is no longer postable and we don't get on discourse? We expect the new list to be up and running before the switchover to Discourse. We will also very likely make an announcement on the new Discourse instance whenever it's live. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list
On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 17:32 -0600, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 22:09 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 15:59 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Patrick O'Callaghan said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:37:33 + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few > > > > days. > > > > We'll > > > > make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've > > > > decided > > > > not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, > > > > i.e. > > > > users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is > > > > mainly > > > > to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and > > > > security > > > > information to a new site. > > > > > > Understood, but how will you tell all of us the subscription > > > process > > > if > > > the current list is no longer postable and we don't get on > > > discourse? > > > > We expect the new list to be up and running before the switchover > > to > > Discourse. We will also very likely make an announcement on the new > > Discourse instance whenever it's live. We will of course announce the new list here once it's live. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 07:23 -0600, Overthefalls via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 11:37 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Note that we've decided > > not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, i.e. > > users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is > > mainly > > to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security > > information to a new site. > > > > We expect the current list to continue as part of the Gnome > > Discourse > > system, but we aren't in control of that. > > Does that mean that list subscribers will automatically have some > kind > of account setup with discourse, do you know? For those who object to > discourse, it may be safer to unsubscribe now and check the wiki for > further details if that's the case. Based on my own experience (and Milan's) I'm 99% sure that this will not happen. You'll have to register with the Discourse system. GNOME have said that once the transition happens, mail to the current list address will simply bounce. Expect a more complete announcement soon. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] New Mailing List
As most of you will be aware, the GNOME Project has announced that its mailing lists, including this one, are to be transitioned from the Mailman system to a Discourse (web-based) forum. The new forum has already been set up and can be found at: https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/evolution Note that Discourse does support a mailing list based access method, but that isn't its main focus. so for those of us who prefer a more traditional mailing list along the current model, we (the moderators, with input from Milan) have asked the Oregon State University Open Systems Lab (OSUOSL) to host a new list for Evolution users, and they have agreed. The new list information page can be found at: https://lists.osuosl.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-users We'll refer to these various instances as follows: OLD: the current list (evolution-list@gnome.org) NEW: the new list (evolution-us...@lists.osuosl.org) DIS: the new Discourse instance (see above) Some points to note: * Users can subscribe to the NEW list from now, but for the time being posts will be held (deferred) until nearer the time the OLD list is shut down. This is to enable a smoother transition of the archive, hopefully without loss of data. * Membership of the NEW list is entirely voluntary. We decided not to auto-subscribe anyone, so if you're interested, you need to do this yourself (see the NEW list page above). The NEW list has uploaded the existing archives from the OLD list. * At some point in the next few days, mail to the OLD list will start to bounce. It's currently unclear if we'll get a warning before this happens. * In the interests of continuity, we encourage people to keep the same email address on the NEW list as they used on the OLD one. * You can of course subscribe to DIS as well as NEW, but please DO NOT CROSS-POST between any of these lists. Cross-posting has a lot of potential for confusion as replies will by default also be cross posted, often leading to incomplete threads on one or more forums. If you want to post something in more than one place, choose one primary and then refer to it by URL in the other places. Thanks to all who collaborated on this, especially Lance Albertson of OSUOSL who has been indispensable in getting this to work. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] New Mailing List
On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 20:03 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 12:20 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The new list information page can be found at: > > > > https://lists.osuosl.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-users > > Hi, > I updated the Wiki page: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution#Online_Support > > and added the evolution-users list to the user documentation: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/commit/ded1ecd696f83b31cd33a431afac2da336a93906 > > It will be shown in 3.47.1 and later versions, thus released as part > of > the 3.48.0 stable series. > > There are still places where the old list is mentioned (like the > previous versions, in long term support distros and so on), but > there's > nothing I can do about it. Thanks Milan. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] New mailing list reminder
This is just a head's up that the new list is now available for subscription, see: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-November/msg00181.html We've had some sign-ups in the last day or so but most people still haven't bothered. It's important to know that when this (OLD) list is shut down, it could happen without warning. It's not under our control, and we've been told that once it happens any posts here will simply bounce. Of course if we get an update on this we will post it. Due to the uncertainty, I'm going enable posting to the NEW list as of now. Once again, please do *not* cross-post to both lists. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] FINAL REMINDER
This list is now closing and future posts will bounce. For details, please see: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-November/msg00181.html poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Newly created search folder does not appear
On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 23:23 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 10:58 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I have tried to report this as a bug, but the location of evolution's > > bugzilla appears to have changed and I am not able to find it. > > The top banner on https://bugzilla.gnome.org informs you where to > report bugs. If the banner is somehow unclear, please explain why it is > unclear so we can fix the banner. Note that the Evolution Help still tells you to report bugs to Bugzilla. That should probably point directly to Gitlab instead. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 11:52 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 11:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > Do you delete messages in a separate message window instead of the main > > window? What is a "parent folder"? It's unclear to me what this means. > > I have this same requirement but have not been able to find a setting > to change it. Maybe I am missing something. > > When viewing a message in a separate window, after I delete the > message, I prefer to go back to the message list rather than have the > next message in the list displayed in the separate window. I guess it > is just something I got used to with other mail clients. But it is not > a big deal for me as the benefits of Evolution far outweigh the few > habits I formed with other applications. I'd forgotten this was even possible as I never use it. I have Evolution set to Wide View and just use the Preview pane. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Newly created search folder does not appear
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 11:37 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 22:39 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 23:23 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 10:58 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > > I have tried to report this as a bug, but the location of > > > > evolution's > > > > bugzilla appears to have changed and I am not able to find it. > > > > > > The top banner on https://bugzilla.gnome.org informs you where to > > > report bugs. If the banner is somehow unclear, please explain why > > > it is > > > unclear so we can fix the banner. > > > > Note that the Evolution Help still tells you to report bugs to > > Bugzilla. That should probably point directly to Gitlab instead. > > That's been fixed already && redirects from Bugzilla's enter_bug.cgi to > Gitlab are in place && there is a banner on Bugzilla. What is missing? It says nothing about Evolution specifically, being a general banner for Gnome. It also makes you log in to even discover whether Evolution is covered by the Gitlab page. Then after logging in you have to search for Evolution, then click on the Issues tab. It would be much simpler just to include a direct pointer to: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues (and the equivalents for evolution-data-server etc.) poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 07:28 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > I agree, it's not a major deal-breaker, > and I do like Evolution otherwise. It's > mainly annoying, but potentially > dangerous with respect to spam and > malware messages. It's only potentially dangerous if you open HTML-formatted messages, which is why they are discouraged on most mailing lists, including this one. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Newly created search folder does not appear
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 16:32 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 14:46 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 11:37 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 22:39 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Note that the Evolution Help still tells you to report bugs to > > > > Bugzilla. That should probably point directly to Gitlab instead. > > > > > > That's been fixed already && redirects from Bugzilla's enter_bug.cgi to > > > Gitlab are in place && there is a banner on Bugzilla. What is missing? > > > > It says nothing about Evolution specifically, being a general banner > > for Gnome. > > There is a general banner because it is a general issue. > We will not list each and every name of 650 GNOME modules. > It should not say anything about Evolution specifically. > > > It also makes you log in to even discover whether Evolution > > is covered by the Gitlab page. > > What is "it"? Gitlab? > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution redirects to > https://gitlab.gnome.org/users/sign_in if you're not > logged into Gitlab. After log into Gitlab you are redirected to > https://gitlab.gnome.org/explore/groups which lets you search if > Evolution is in Gitlab. You end up on the very same page if you do not > log in and just go to https://gitlab.gnome.org/ instead. > If you want a URL parameter to redirect back to the intended URL after > the login dialog interference, feel free to file a feature request. > > > Then after logging in you have to search > > for Evolution, then click on the Issues tab. It would be much simpler > > just to include a direct pointer to: > > > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution > already redirects to > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new . > When you are logged into Gitlab. See above. > So what you ask for is already the case. If you are logged in. > > I don't know where you want to see what exactly. Andre, I'm talking about the content of the Evolution Help page, specifically the text which starts: How to report bugs If you do not need help for configuration but you are sure that you have found a mistake or wrong behavior in the Evolution software, or if you want to request a feature, you can file a report in the . What I would like is for *that text* to point directly to the Issues page for Evo on Gitlab, rather than the general BZ page for Gnome. That's all I mean. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] conversations/threads
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 17:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 17:53 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > > At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients, Evolution > > is marked as being able to display both conversation and threaded > > views. > > > > While I have been able to find Group by Threads, I have not been able > > to find any settings for conversations. > > What's a "conversation"? Surely it's just the same as "thread". > > If you mean grouping messages by subject, then Preferences -> Mail > Prefences -> General -> "Fall back to threading messages by subject" Pete, it's a term used in Gmail and some other MUAs, referring to the context of sent and received messages to and from the same correspondent(s) on the same subject. It's similar to a thread but also includes your own replies, and the component messages are all treated as a unit in the interface. From the Gmail help: When people reply to an email, Gmail groups responses together in conversations with the newest email on the bottom. A conversation breaks off into a new conversation if the subject line changes or the conversation gets to more than 100 emails. > > Is this maybe some mistake on > > the wikipedia page? > > > > Surely not. I'd be shocked, shocked! poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 15:33 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > Thanks for the hints. I just changed the wrapping figure to 70. I > guess prefer curse the darkness. On a related matter, please don't top-post on the list. It makes threads harder to follow. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Newly created search folder does not appear
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 19:48 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 17:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Andre, I'm talking about the content of the Evolution Help page, > > specifically the text which starts: > > > >How to report bugs > > > >If you do not need help for configuration but you are sure that you > >have found a mistake or wrong behavior in the Evolution software, or > >if you want to request a feature, you can file a report in the > >. > > > > What I would like is for *that text* to point directly to the Issues > > page for Evo on Gitlab, rather than the general BZ page for Gnome. > > That's all I mean. > > Ah. Thanks for clarifying! > You're right, it linked only to the GNOME Gitlab frontpage so far > instead of the Evolution issues in GNOME Gitlab. Fixed for 3.30: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/commit/1d9f78c896067e5497a13688fb060115f0cc9f45 > > Thanks again! Cheers poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] error with message filter
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:53 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:35 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > What is the account type (IMAP, EWS, ...) you see this on, please? > > Thanks for the reply Milan. > > This was with an IMAP account. All I can think of is that the filter > deleted the message after sending as it was supposed to, then the IMAP > tried to retrieve the message after it was deleted. > > I changed back to POP3 so the issue is no longer there. The only reason I can think of that might explain this is if your Sent folder is on the IMAP server. If this isn't the case, why do you think IMAP is trying to read the sent message? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] error with message filter
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 13:07 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The only reason I can think of that might explain this is if your Sent > > folder is on the IMAP server. If this isn't the case, why do you think > > IMAP is trying to read the sent message? > > Yes, this was an IMAP account, so the Sent folder was on the server. It doesn't need to be. You can put it anywhere you have access to. If you have switched to POP, I presume you've also moved the Sent folder. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] error with message filter
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 14:27 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The only reason I can think of that might explain this is if your Sent > > folder is on the IMAP server. If this isn't the case, why do you think > > IMAP is trying to read the sent message? > > Maybe I was not so clear in my initial description or further comments, > Patrick. > > The problem is occurring because an Evolution filter is deleting the > message after send, as it is instructed to, but then Evoution is trying > to load it again in the IMAP Sent folder. Does that make more sense? That's what I understood. I assume it's because the IMAP server notices that the Sent folder changed, so Evo is trying to reload it. You could just use a Sent folder locally as you are now doing with POP, and retain the other benefits of IMAP. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 19:35 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 08:49 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 22:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Gary, perhaps it just happened by accident, when you trimmed the > > > quote, but the quote is not marked as a quote. > > > > > > This happens regularly with Evolution when changing from HTML to > > > Plain Text. > > > > > > When running into unexpected behavior, please file tickets. > > > In this case: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/86 > > > > > > With the same mail it doesn't happen here. > > > > I guess like the spelling bug, it happens when it happens. I send in > > plain text to two addresses. The other is a colleague, and maybe 2 > > out 10 replies to him lose the indicators. > > I wonder if it's related, at least somewhat, to the issue I raised here > a month or so ago. Bug filed as: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/86 > > As far as I'm aware that's completely reproducible with any plain text > email (it happens every time on all three of my systems using Evolution > 2.28.1 and did not happen with 2.26.x). There seem to be some issues > with quoting in HTML mode in either Evolution or webkit2. I take it you mean 3.28.1, not 2.28.1. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Having trouble building on Ubuntu 18.04
On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 15:19 +, Bryan Everly wrote: > On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 10:21 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 16:47 +, Bryan Everly wrote: > > I installed NSPR (sudo apt-get install libnspr4-dev) and have > Please try and use a more conventional quoting style (see most of the other traffic on the list for examples). This reply is extremely difficult to read in plaintext mode, which is the preferred style on this list. Thank you. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Files -> Save as mbox trashed white space
On Sat, 2018-08-25 at 13:38 +, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list wrote: > I got an inline patch which I saved as mbox(the only save function I know), > besides replacing all \n -> \n\r Evo also replaced all > TABs with SPACE, trashing the patch beyond salvage. > > Using 3.29.90 Note that this is a test version. Stable versions have even numbers, the current one being 3.28.x. Please file a bug report. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Cannot access gmail
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 13:11 -0500, Christopher M via evolution-list wrote: > Hello, > > I am having to send this email from gmail's webmail. > > When I opened Evolution this morning I was greeted with an error. > > https://imgur.com/a/kZrdd8L > > I deleted the account out of Evolution and reset the account up as a > pop account. > > I am still getting the same error. The account was working fine yesterday. > > How do I fix this? Evolution has changed in a number of ways over the years, so it's *essential* to give your Evolution version when asking for help. See Help->About. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cannot access gmail
On Thu, 2018-08-30 at 11:12 -0500, Christopher M wrote: > > Evolution has changed in a number of ways over the years, so it's > > *essential* to give your Evolution version when asking for help. > > > > See Help->About. > > > > > HI POC, > > Oops! Please see my signature. [You replied twice for some reason] Putting Evo version info in your signature is up to you, but I doubt that many people will think to look for it there. Personally I tend to ignore any signature text other than the sender's name (apologies to all the people who spend time including witty quotes and elaborate contact info). I recommend explicitly mentioning your Evo version in the body of the message when asking questions here. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] list etiquette
On Fri, 2018-08-31 at 09:53 +, Gary Curtin wrote: > Last week the moderator asked me not to express emotion in my posts. I > responded privately to him and requested a link to the list posting > etiquette so that I would not commit further faux pas, but unfortunately > he did not respond. > > I would like to participate in conversations, but as I have not been > able to locate any list rules, I am not sure how to proceed. If anybody > can point me in the direction of where to find these rules, I would be > most appreciative. There are no list-specific rules. There are certain practices which are frowned on (top-posting, using HTML and not mentioning your Evo version when asking a question being the main ones), and from time to time it falls to one of us to remind people. We haven't felt the need for a formalised document so far, and I for one would prefer to avoid it as these things tend to get out of hand. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] list etiquette
On Fri, 2018-08-31 at 16:15 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > On 31/08/2018 14:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > There are no list-specific rules. There are certain practices which are > > frowned on (top-posting, using HTML and not mentioning your Evo version > > when asking a question being the main ones), and from time to time it > > falls to one of us to remind people. We haven't felt the need for a > > formalised document so far, and I for one would prefer to avoid it as > > these things tend to get out of hand. > > Thanks for that Patrick. > > As it is not fromwned upon, there is no reason for me to refrain from > using emoticons like LOL! when discussing issues with Evolution. I didn't say it wasn't frowned on. I mentioned a group of things which are usually considered among the most irritating, but good netiquette always involves being considerate of others' opinions. I don't know which specific message gave rise to this issue so I can't have an opinion about the specific case. I don't think this needs to be codified further. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] I am using Evolution 3.20.5. For a long time everything work fine. But today I have problem. Can not receive mail. When I click on "send/receive" I got message: "No support for LOGIN a
On Fri, 2018-08-31 at 17:03 +0200, zeljkocve...@beotel.net wrote: > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Your message has no content, just a very long Subject line. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to authenticate: Timeout was reached
On Fri, 2018-08-31 at 17:26 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote: > I added gmail by following the notes in > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/accounts-add.html.en > It worked for about a day and now ... at the top > > Failed to refresh folder "...INBOX" > The reported error was "Failed to authenticate: Timeout was reached" > > This is persistent across starting/stopping evolution. > What do I need to do to reinitialized the connection? > > 3.24.6 (3.24.6-1.fc26) > gnome-online-accounts-3.24.4-3.fc26.x86_64 Without looking into the specifics, I'd strongly suggest updating your system to get a more recent version of Evolution. Fedora 26 has been EOLed and is no longer supported. F28 currently offers Evo 3.28.5. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] list etiquette
On Sat, 2018-09-01 at 13:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2018-09-01 at 10:56 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > GNOME has a CoC at https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct > > Those _advices_ belong to all the "good" CoC common sense _advices_ :). > They are _not_ too long to read and easy to understand, and btw. they > include all those detailed Geek Feminism things without the need to > mention each detail. Those _advices_ are without a Hagakure [1] > attitude. Samurai tend to either behead other for "nothing" or to submit > Seppuku for "nothing" [2], something some people wish to see for FLOSS > communities, too. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagakure > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku > > Note, the "Kaishaku" Wiki (linked by the Seppuku Wiki) is completely > wrong for Samurai. The term "beheaded" is wrong. A "cut leaving a little > skin remaining" is not the same as "beheading" and makes a big > difference regarding respect and honour for Samurai. The term "Harakiri"is > frowned upon and not the same as "Seppuku". IOW we better stay with short and > easy to follow advices that are up to date regarding common sense of many > civilisations :). This reply is a perfect example of why I for one don't want these discussions. This has *nothing* to do with Evolution and within a couple of messages has branched off into something called Geek Feminism and the terminology of Samurai. Please stop this *NOW*. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unable to enter data for spouse in Personal Information Tab
On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 17:22 -0500, C Thomas Watts via evolution-list wrote: > I have recently installed Evolution 3.28.1-2. When entering or editing a > contact, under the Personal Information Tab under the Sub Heading of > Miscellaneous, there is a box labeled: Spouse. When I click on it, it does > get an orange parameter but I cannot enter anything in that box. When I > right click the sub menu (Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete etc). is completely > grayed out. I do have Birthday and Anniversary dates in their respective > locations. Please don't re-post the same question you already asked. There is some additional information in this version, but that should appear as a reply within the same thread, e.g. to Andre's answer to you, and not as a new message. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Hyphens (changed!)
On Tue, 2018-10-02 at 08:57 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Maybe the mail delivery system changed the order of your messages, I do > not know. Still, asking the same thing multiple times in multiple > threads is a bad idea. Exactly. These questions should have formed part of a single thread, since they're all about the same thing. If you want to add or change something, just reply to your own message. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic Fill in by writing mail
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:03 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, i'm using evo 3.18.2 and is it possible by starting to > edit/writing a mail that automaticly a personal salutation and further > infos/text (and so on) will be fill in? > I know it from a Mailer i used years ago on Windows (the bat) there > was it possible. > Look under Help->Advanced Mail Composing-> Using Message Templates (this is for 3.28, it may be different in your version). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Templates
After answering a question on templates, I had a look at how they work. Some things are not clear or need improvement: * How do you assign a name to a template? * How do you arrange for a template to quote the body of the reply in the standard quoting style? (currently it just substitutes $ORIG[body] for the text of the message, with no quoting indents. * After editing a template and saving it you don't want to actually send it, so you get the standard "do you want to discard this message"? dialogue, which not appropriate here. I can file one or more bugs unless there's something I'm not understanding about this. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] moving addresses from place to place?
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 00:20 +0200, Ángel wrote: > Well, it Should Work™ ☺ What should work? Please quote the relevant part(s) of the message you are replying to, as is the convention on mailing lists. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Command to "Send as attachment"
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 10:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > PS: > > To sent mails by command line I wouldn't use Evolution with 'mailto'. > Consider to use a 'sendmail' replacement such as 'msmtp', see > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2014-May/msg00183.html. SendEmail is another option. 'dnf install sendemail'. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Command to "Send as attachment"
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 18:01 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 16:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 10:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > PS: > > > > > > To sent mails by command line I wouldn't use Evolution with 'mailto'. > > > Consider to use a 'sendmail' replacement such as 'msmtp', see > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2014-May/msg00183.html. > > > > SendEmail is another option. 'dnf install sendemail'. > > Hi, > > while it seems to be easy to use, upstream unfortunately released the > last version 9 years ago. > > On Arch Linux: $ yaourt -Syua sendemail > > http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/ > https://tecadmin.net/send-email-from-gmail-smtp-via-linux-command/ There is a Fedora package for F28 (latest stable version) so I don't think that matters. SMTP hasn't changed in 9 years. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Error fetching message info: unknown body response
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 10:11 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2018-10-27 at 21:57 -0400, Josh wrote: > > Here you go. > > Hi, > thanks. > > > uuencoded to preserve formatting and special chars if > > any. > > Ehm, it's called "Preformatted" in the composer, but if you want to > preserve any special characters too, then a real attachment makes it, > instead of pasting it into the message body. > > I'm sorry to say it, but I've no idea how to decode it. Maybe it's a > shame, but I work with base64 most of the time and it doesn't make me > any issue to encode/decode it, I know of the tools which can help with > it. I do not know with uuencode. The "inline content detector" in > evolution doesn't look for uuencode (maybe it did in the past, but it > was faulty and I think even considered "old fashion", thus if it was > there, then it had been dropped in favor of more convenient ways of > achieving the same, without any ambiguity - any free form text parsing > and trying to find special meaning out of it is faulty, easy to > confuse). > > Well, to be precise, I can write a little program which will use Camel > (part of evolution-data-server), which will decode it, but it doesn't > change anything on my confusion why you chose such a complicated way to > share the log. It might be complicated for you too, definitely more > than just picking Insert->Attachment in the message composer. +1 Also, for large attachments (I don't mean this one necessarily) please use a pastebin service and post the link. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] IMPAX RECEIVING PROBLEMS
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 14:38 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > RE: 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 > > It appears that Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 can handle only one (1) > IMPAX > account. Adding a second IMPAX account ... Just for the record, it's IMAPX. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] IMPAX RECEIVING PROBLEMS
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 21:24 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > It needs a bit of patience sometimes - if it's slow, it's going to be > slow terminating the connection, especially if it is dealing with large > messages: it needs to cleanly finish what it's doing before closing > otherwise it could end up confused about what has or has not been > downloaded. I used to see this a lot in older versions of Evo, but not for a long time now. One thing that always irritated me was that if I simply killed the Evolution process and restarted it, it would re-sync much faster than if I let it run. This never seemed to make any sense to me. I even considered filing an RFE about it, suggesting there should be an option to just force-close an account without waiting (I don't remember if I ever got round to it). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] IMPAX RECEIVING PROBLEMS
On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 08:36 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 21:47 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I even considered filing an RFE about it, suggesting there should be > > an option to just force-close an account without waiting (I don't > > remember if I ever got round to it). > > Hi, > I do not recall seeing anything like that. I suppose you didn't see it > for some time now, did you? You can force disconnect by using > File->Work offline, and once it's fully offline (the plug at the > bottom-left part, in the status bar, is unplagged and no other > operations are showing in the status bar) use File->Work Online to > reconnect all the accounts. Whether it'll have the same effect as > quitting Evolution and starting it again I do not know. More > interesting would be to know the reason for the slowness. Would there > be any memory leaks involved? Who knows. Yes, I haven't seen it in a long time so rather forgot about it. I knew about the Offline/Online toggle of course, but can't remember right now if it worked as well as restarting Evo. If I can find something in the archives I'll post it here. I'm almost certain I did mention it on the list a long time ago, probably for Evo 2.x > In any case, the UI itself is not supposed to be locked, all the > network operations are ran in their own threads, not in the main/UI > thread, thus for example the window repaints when other window is moved > above it. As I recall the UI never locked. Indeed one of the symptoms was that I would switch folders, see that the new folder was taking an age to refresh, switch again, see the same thing again, etc., all the while seeing a growing list of pending operations on the status pane. My question was always "why doesn't Evo just have a short timeout on the folder I'm not looking at and prioritise the one I *am* looking at? It can't rely on folder status being completely in synch anyway and is going to check again if I come back to that folder, so it shouldn't insist to the detriment of the user experience." poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution
On Fri, 2018-11-02 at 00:50 +0100, Robin Kuiper via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > Evolution has an issue, the way it marks a VTODO complete is not > according to the iCal spec > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545#section-3.8.2.1). it does not > specify it in UTC time. When i mark a task complete, it saved as follows: > > > COMPLETED;TZID=/freeassociation.sourceforge.net/Europe/Amsterdam;X-VOBJ-FLO > ATINGTIME-ALLOWED=TRUE:20181101T144500 > > Which is not UTC time. Not following the specification causes davdroid > to fail. > I hope this can be resolved! Remember always to mention your version of Evolution (Help->About). Also, try to choose a more informative subject line when posting on the list. A subject of "Evolution" doesn't say anything. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sorry for the inconvenience
On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 10:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > "Questions and concerns for the attention of a person should be sent to > > evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org" > > If something went wrong, I guess it's best to get in contact > with Patrick O'Callaghan , but first either send Please use the evolution-list-owner address, which will reach all three moderators and not just me. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Error fetching message info: unknown body response
On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 08:44 -0500, Josh wrote: > On 11/6/18 03:31, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > is one of those which > > cannot be recovered from. > Again, I must strongly disagree because other clients, based on my test > results, posted in one of my previous messages, managed to correctly > recover and there is no valid reason why evolution can't do the same for > the benefit of end users. As Milan has pointed out, the server in question is in error. The specific problem is of a class known as a framing error (i.e. the boundaries within the data are being violated). Apparently Thunderbird tries to work around it. However the problem with framing errors is that unless you do a careful heuristic analysis of the entire message stream they can lead to situations in which the fix actually creates other problems in some circumstances, and these can easily happen at some distance from where the server made its mistake and be very hard to diagnose. Maybe TB has managed to avoid this, maybe not. I've no idea, but Evo has very limited developer resources and this in my view is definitely not a priority. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bogofilter plugin
On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 21:11 +0100, Martin Monperrus wrote: > Hi all, > > I've installed evolution-plugin-bogofilter on my Debian testing box but > bogofilter does not appear > in the plugin list window. > > Am I missing something? You don't say what version of Evolution this is (Help->About). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail authentication request
On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 11:26 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > I have the best Internet service I can afford (50 Mbps down /10 Mbps up, Cox > Business Cable); however, it is too slow for evolution or perhaps the mail > servers I am using are too slow. I am getting repeated "Mail authentication > requests. How do I keep these from popping up or keep them from popping up > when > I acknowledge the first one? Do you don't say what version of Evolution you have, nor what kind of account this is. What makes you think it has to do with the connection speed? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] IMAP problems evolution 3.30.1-1build1
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 19:31 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > I set up evolution 3.30.1-1build1 on another PC that I had just upgraded from > Ubuntu 18.04 to 18,10. I added all my email accounts as IMAP and they all ran > fine together just as they do under another popular email program. > > The IMAP problem exists with both the evolution on my PC and the evolution on > my > secretary's PC. They have been around for several updates in evolution and > the > underlying Ubuntu OS. Both of them have the same problem when you add second > IMAP account. Since they have different folders and the number of e-mails in > each folder (one folder for each client, and one folder for each vendor or > professional society), I suspect that something in the evolution code is > corrupt > and not the database folders. > > Is the following a correct course of action to solve the problem? > > 1.Back up evolution data files onto a USB hard drive using the Back Up > Evolution Data function. > 2.Totally remove evolution from the system. > 3.Reinstall evolution and set up all e-mail accounts as IMAP. > 4.If they all work together, restore the data files. > > If the above steps are the correct ones and I still have problems, what do I > do > next? Removing and reinstalling Evolution is probably pointless, all the more so as you say the same problem occurs on two different machines. Linux isn't Windows. You're just restoring all the Evolution components to what they were before you removed them. You can also verify the package installation. On Fedora this would be "rpm -V ". On Ubuntu I assume there's something similar. That would check that there isn't bit-rot in the installed components, but frankly the likelihood of this manifesting as anything other than a crash is infinitesimal. Before doing all this however, check the number of concurrent connections to the mail server, under ->Receiving Options. See if it's different between the machines that work and those that don't. If all else fails, by all means try recreating the accounts. There may be some configuration error. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Non-intuitive design POP/On this computer User Interface
On Sun, 2018-11-18 at 12:38 +0100, Chide wrote: > And as a follow-up to my previous question, a feature request based on > it at the end of this post. It may save other users quite some time if > they end up in the same "corner" of evolution as I did... > > (Note that I'm a fan of evolution, already been happily using it for > years, hence this is no critique, but a tip to make it even better ;-)) > > On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 19:21 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 14:03 +0100, Chide wrote: > > > Version Evolution: 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 > > > I created a new POP account. It worked. > > > Then I switched it off (Edit -> Accounts -> Mail Accounts). It > > > disappeared from the Mail overview. > > I don't see a bug. As far as I know, POP accounts do not have and > > never had a separate node in the folder pane in Evolution's mail view > > (contrary to IMAP accounts). > > All mail of any POP accounts ends up under "On this Computer". > > I must say that this is a quite confusing, and non-intuitive user- > interface design decision within evolution. "Intuitive", like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. What you mean is "other email clients I've used don't work this way". There are many differences between Evo and other MUAs and this is one of them. Evo was designed as an IMAP client and that's where it takes its design cues from. It supports POP of course, but there's no question that for most people POP is a protocol of last resort. If you want to organise your POP mail into folders, use Search folders. There are several discussions of this on the list archives. In fact it's even in the Help, under the heading "Separating POP mail for more than one account". > One would expect that switching on the POP account (in the Mail > Accounts preferences) itself should show it in the mail-client. But it > does not. I think it would be a more consistent design decision to, for > example, warn the user that he or she should also switch on "On this > computer" once he or she checks the box next to a POP account. Or even > switch it on automatically. > > After all, for what reason would someone check a POP box, and not want > to see it? It's on by default. In fact I didn't even know it was possible to switch it off (not that I've ever looked). If someone does switch it off, presumably they know what they're doing. I guess Evo could offer to turn it back on if a POP account is created, but it seems like a minor issue. Feel free to file a Request For Enhancement. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Head of the Institute of Evolution, University of Haifa, Israel
On Sun, 2018-11-25 at 08:31 +0200, Ido Izhaki wrote: > The Institute of Evolution This message was posted to the Evolution mailing list which is concerned only with the software package known as Evolution and available on Linux systems. It is NOT concerned with processes of biological evolution. Please refrain from posting further material unrelated to the purpose of the list. Patrick O'Callaghan List Moderator ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution and gmail
On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 14:01 -0700, William Dossett via evolution-list wrote: > I've tried everything I can think of and have found googling and I can't make > evolution work with gmail. I've been doing that for years. In fact I'm answering this via a Google account (G Suite in this case, but I also have a standard Gmail account with the same setup). Your message omits three things which are fairly relevant: 1) Which version of Evolution is this? (Help->About) 2) What kind of Gmail connection are you setting up (POP or IMAP)? 3) Are you using GOA (Gnome Online Accounts) for authentication? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't work with comcast.
On Fri, 2018-12-07 at 02:54 -0500, John Thomas Bakkila via evolution- list wrote: > I can send email fine but I can't recieve anything. Some of the > settings required by comcast are not on the evolution settings. Such as > the SSL option for receiving email. > Is there a solution? > I am using the Ubuntu operating system. You don't say what version of Evolution you have (see Help->About). This is much more relevant than the operating system. Have you tried using TLS instead of SSL? Or STARTTLS? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send email, but not receive.
On Sat, 2018-12-08 at 00:42 -0500, John Thomas Bakkila via evolution- list wrote: > I use Ubuntu and my email is with Comcast. > Comcast requires SSL for incoming and outgoing, but the SSL option > isn't on the dropdown list. > I really like Evolution. It's a great format. How do I get it to work? > > I sent this email via Evolution. You asked this question already. Your previous question was held for moderation because you aren't subscribed to this list, and you would have received a notification of this, so there's no point in repeating the question unless it's to add more information. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't work with comcast.
On Sat, 2018-12-08 at 21:15 +, John Thomas Bakkila via evolution- list wrote: > So...evolution doesn't work with all email clients... [Please don't top-post] This is a meaningless sentence. Evolution *is* an email client. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search feature slow - in one account only
On Wed, 2018-12-12 at 11:07 +0100, Herr Oswald wrote: > > The 1300 messages in a folder is literally nothing, it should be > > instant. > > Agreed. > With "whole message" as well? Is 23s for "search the whole news" with > 1700 messages acceptable? - I think on a 8core xeon it should be > faster. If you're searching the message content, it has to be fetched from your IMAP server. If you're just searching the headers, Evolution already has them. The speed of your machine is not the determining factor. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search feature slow - in one account only
On Wed, 2018-12-12 at 08:09 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > Indeed. I regularly use ripgrep / rg to search multiple gigabytes of mail > spool and it can do that faster than 23 seconds. > _ Presumably its local mail spool, so that's unsurprising. The OP has his mail on an IMAP server. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search feature slow - in one account only
On Thu, 2018-12-13 at 11:35 +0100, Andrea Vai wrote:
> Hi Herr,
> Il giorno gio, 13/12/2018 alle 11.17 +0100, Herr Oswald ha scritto:
> > Thank you very much to everybody for all that clarification.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > And another thing:
> > I've been using evo for 4 years now, but never had the idea that the
> > magnifier symbol could be home of a control. To me, it ever only was
> > an
> > invitation "type text here". I do not have a brilliant other idea to
> > make it more speaking, maybe somebody else has? - Here some
> > suggestions:
> > * place a little triangle besides the magnifier - as in the pop up
> >menus
> > * make the word "search" a pop up menu with the options
> > * place a hamburger between "search" and the magnifier
> > ... well, certainly there are better ideas around.
>
> In my 3.28.5, the rollover text on the lens ("click here to change
> search type") is in my opinion (and, indeed, has been to me in the
> past) clear enough to invite people to click on it. Don't you have it
> the same way?
That only works if you think to roll over it. Some people may not. I
think a more obvious indicator has some merit.
However the best way to make such suggestions is to file a Request For
Enhancement (RFE) on the Gitlab page, and post the link here so others
can comment. See:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues
Otherwise they get lost.
poc
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Re: [Evolution] Event Text Colors - Duh
On Sun, 2018-12-16 at 08:27 -0500, AtomicCanine via evolution-list wrote: > Of COURSE as soon as I sent the earlier note I ran across a discussion > of very similar items in the 'Board' section. > > Sorry for the noise. We've all done it. However, in future please reply to your original message when you want to add something to the same topic, rather than starting a new thread. That way everything stays together, thanks. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] SNI for "other" DEs
On Mon, 2018-12-17 at 09:51 +0100, Roy wrote: > Running Evo with the Enlightenment (in Mageia 6 & 7), there is no SNI > indicator that appears in E's systray, but, as at least one member of > this list is/was running KDE/Plasma, I imagine that there is one. What is SNI? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] SNI for "other" DEs
On Mon, 2018-12-17 at 15:07 +0100, Roy wrote: > > De: Patrick O'Callaghan > > Para: evolution-list@gnome.org > > > > What is SNI? > > > > poc > > Sorry, I should have recognized the ambivalence. StatusNotifierItem - > the standard that is replacing Xembed systray notification. Plasma > shifted to these a couple of years ago, along with Enlightenment. > > At the moment I am running stalonetray in Mageia 7 for another > indicator, and Evo's task/appointment reminder appears there, but not > in the E systray. Some programs have incorporated the change, some have > separate packages (e.g.,pidgin-indicator). > > Ah, and Patrick, I was thinking of you as I recall seeing that you > shifted to KDE after Gnome Shell appeared. Do you have a systray > indicator in Plasma? I've actually never used Gnome in any of its incarnations (other than very briefly to test something). It's always been KDE/Plasma. I have an appointment reminder that appears when an appointment is pending but is otherwise hidden, but no mail notifier. I don't recall actually configuring it (unless it was a long time ago). I have Evo permanently open in its own virtual desktop and just glance at it from time to time. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Double Delete
On Wed, 2018-12-19 at 16:11 -0800, Mr. J wrote: > On Wed, 2018-12-19 at 23:45 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-12-19 at 12:30 -0800, Mr. J wrote: > > > Friends: Quite often when I select one message to delete, the > > > system > > > grabs the next message and deletes it also. I guess the problem > > > could > > > be my mouse or software, but has anyone else experienced this > > > condition? > > > > No. > > Which exact Evolution version? > > Full separate window of the message that you delete, or the main > > window > > with the list of messages? > > How do you delete? Ctrl+D? Delete key? Toolbar icon? Something > > else? > > Which type of email account? POP, IMAP, something else? > > > > andre > > Evolution 3.28.5; Ubuntu 18.01.1. > Deleting from main/preview window with whole list. (I suspect I > wouldn't note the extra deletion otherwise.) > I use the toolbar icon. Haven't tried other shortcuts. > POP account(s -- two). I'd check your mouse first. Try a different mouse, or use xev to see mouse events when you click (e.g. in a terminal window). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:50 +0100, Bjoern Schiessle wrote: > Hi all, > > it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a > text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail in > Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens > Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click? Not from within Evolution. > If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for > suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting > involved. Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a message could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it possibly being moved around. There is no universal way to do this. There could conceivably be an Evo-specific way, using Evo's on-disc cache, but a) as it's a cache it can easily disappear or be reorganised, and b) the link would only work on a single machine (and then only within the same user account on the machine). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 22:40 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:59 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:50 +0100, Bjoern Schiessle wrote: > > > it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a > > > text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail > > > in Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens > > > Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click? > > > > Not from within Evolution. > > > > > If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for > > > suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting > > > involved. > > > > Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You > > would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a > > message could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it > > possibly being moved around. There is no universal way to do this. > > I suppose the “universal” way to link to messages is using a mid: URL > that refers to the Message-ID in a message's header. > See: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392 The Message-ID is mainly useful in debugging because it can be used to trace the flow of a message across mail servers. Although the definition describes it as a universal message *locator*, it's really more like a URI than a URL. To make it work as a link there would need to be a standard way to follow it to the message itself, which would ideally work on IMAP, POP, Exchange etc., but that doesn't exist at present. > Evolution currently doesn't support this, but I guess it would be > possible to add it if someone is motivated enough… > > Soem thoughts: > * I'm not sure if Evolution keeps an index of Message-IDs; if not it >could take a rather long time to find the right message in a large >mailbox (or multiple large ones). > * Maybe some IMAP servers index & allow searching for it? Again, this (if it even exists) would be mailstore-specific, not a universal solution. Within these limitations it could possibly be used for what the OP wants. However I think the limitations are such as to make it probably not worth investing a lot of time on. But feel free to try :-) poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How do I stop evolution from duplicating sent items?
On Tue, 2019-01-01 at 14:15 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Mon, 2018-12-31 at 22:52 +, Russell Thamm via evolution-list > wrote: > > When I send an email, my provider places the item in the Sent folder. > > Evolution also insists in putting the item in the Sent folder. > > Furthermore, Evolution always takes several minutes to do this. > > You can configure where sent items are saved to - probably the easiest > *work around* is to change it to some local folder (i.e. under "On This > Computer"). But that's a work around since you are still storing the > mail. > > > Can I configure this Evolution to stop duplicating sent items? > > No, Evolution will always store the sent mail somewhere - this is a > GOOD thing. It's your ISP that's doing strange things - perhaps you > should be asking how you can stop them from duplicating items. Gmail automatically stores sent mail in its Sent folder. AFAIK there is no way to turn that off (it's part of their "conversation" paradigm). P ersonally I just configure Evo to use a local folder. This works. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 13:03 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 18:12 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 10:19 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 15:06 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 09:31 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > > > RE: 3.30.1-1build1 OS: Ubuntu 18.10 > > > > > Within the past hour, I sent out an e-mail using one of the > > > > > IMAPXaccounts on my PC. I went to find the sent mail in the Sent > > > > > folderfor the e-mail account I used and the sent message was not > > > > > there. > > > > > Ithen logged on the webmail for the account, and it was not > > > > > thereeither. > > > > > I could not find the e-mail in any other mail account on myPC. I used > > > > > my > > > > > PC to send a test e-mail to two other e-mail accounts Ican use. The > > > > > test > > > > > message went to the correct Sent folder on my PCand on the webmail > > > > > account. > > > > > What do I need to do to find the text of the missing e-mail? > > > > > > > > Was the mail actually sent? (i.e. did the recipient get it?) > > > > If not, is it still in your Outbox (under "On This Computer")? > > > > P.Thank you. I have checked the general outbox, sent, and > > > > draftsfolders. Message was not in those folders. > > > > John: Your threading level is broken in the last two lines. ^ > > If you do not have filters for outgoing email defined [1], then maybethat > > message got lost and there is a bug somewhere. If you can identify > > reproducible steps and this happens more often toyou, a bug report would be > > welcome. > > andre > > [1] > > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters.html > > id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker"> > > The original e-mail came in on 26/12 to the IMAPX with GoDaddy. I forwarded > > the message using my IMAPX account with ARVIXE. I am going to try the same > > procedure and see what happens. As Andre said, something is broken in your reply quoting. Please try to fix this as it makes following the thread more difficult than necessary. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 20:35 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > > As Andre said, something is broken in your reply quoting. Please try tofix > > this as it makes following the thread more difficult thannecessary. > > poc > > ___evolution-list mailing > > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > Please let me know correct choice for "Reply style" and Forward Style" I suggest Quoted for replies and Attachment for forwarding. I note that your earlier replies on this list were fine, so I'm guessing something has changed in the past few weeks. I'd also suggest not posting in HTML as many of us only read the plaintext version and the other copy is a waste of space, but that's a different issue. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
On Thu, 2019-01-03 at 09:08 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > This is with Plain Text and Quote reply set. And yet it's still wrong. Your actual text in the reply posted to the list starts with '> ', which is the usual convention for quoted material (and my reply -- i.e. this message -- then adds another '> ', as per convention, which is why you're seeing two sets). Nothing in Evolution would do that by default, so either you are entering those characters manually, or you're maybe using an external editor which is doing it. That's what's causing the confusion. Note that this text I'm typing does NOT start with those characters. They only appear to the left of the section of your message that I'm quoting. Also, as Pete also said, please consider trimming your replies to the relevant part of the message you are commenting on (as I'm doing here). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
On Thu, 2019-01-03 at 09:54 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > On Thu, 2019-01-03 at 14:38 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-01-03 at 09:08 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > > > > This is with Plain Text and Quote reply set. > > > > And yet it's still wrong. Your actual text in the reply posted to the > > list starts with '> ', which is the usual convention for quoted > > material (and my reply -- i.e. this message -- then adds another '> ', > > as per convention, which is why you're seeing two sets). Nothing in > > Evolution would do that by default, so either you are entering those > > characters manually, or you're maybe using an external editor which is > > doing it. That's what's causing the confusion. Note that this text I'm > > typing does NOT start with those characters. They only appear to the > > left of the section of your message that I'm quoting. > > > > Also, as Pete also said, please consider trimming your replies to the > > relevant part of the message you are commenting on (as I'm doing here). > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > > Is this correct format? J No. The last line (the one you typed most recently) should have nothing in front of it but instead has '> ', which is the convention for "this is quoted material" (and of course now it has two copies of '> ' since I'm quoting it back to you). IOW it's exactly the same as the rest of the message, which actually *is* quoted material, so there's nothing to distinguish it. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Getting “Failed to issue REPORT: HTTP error code 404 (Not Found)”.
On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 21:23 +, Graham Sivill wrote: > I did reply earlier to this and attached the > output from the two commands as text files as I wasn't sure what I was > looking at. However because the email and attachments exceeded 40KB the > moderator rejected my message. The usual procedure in these cases is to upload the file to a public file-sharing site such as Pastebin (Google Docs or Dropbox will also work) and post the URL here. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] X-evolution-account setting
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 16:04 -0800, Van Snyder via evolution-list wrote:
> My outgoing mail isn't sent directly from my own computer. It's sent
> from an smtp server. But the X-evolution-account setting is my own
> computer. That is apparently interfering with some setting in the smtp
> server. I get messages like this:
>
> : host aspmx.l.google.com[74.125.195.26] said: 550-5.7.1
> Unauthenticated email from jpl.nasa.gov is not accepted due to 550-5.7.1
> domain's DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of 550-5.7.1
> jpl.nasa.gov domain if this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 550-5.7.1
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the 550
> 5.7.1
> DMARC initiative. cd2si22321609plb.39 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA
> command)
>
> My IT service guys -- the guys supposedly knowledgeable about (maybe
> even administrators for) the smtp server, insist it's because the
> X-evolution-accunt setting is my own computer, not the domain name for
> the smtp server.
>
> I looked through all the settings for my mail account and didn't see any
> mention of my own computer, or X-evolution settings.
>
> So I did the following:
>
> # foreach f ( ~/.??* )
> # find $f -type f -exec grep -il x-evolution-account {} \;
> # end
>
> The only files it found were in .cache/mozilla, .mozilla/firefox, and
> files that are mail messages under .evolution.save and .local/share.
>
> Nothing in those files looked like settings.
>
> How can I cause the X-evolution-account setting to be the domain for my
> smtp server, not my own computer?
>
> Or does the above problem arise from some other cause?
Headers beginning with 'X-' are explicitly non-standard. They are used
in an ad hoc way by various bits of mail software and should not
normally be used to analyse spam. Furthermore, nothing in the error
message you quote above mentions the 'X-' header, so why do you think
it's causing the problem, or why do your sysadmins think so?
Note that your message to the list does not contain this header, though
it does have several other 'X-' headers.
I also note that your version of Evo appears to be really ancient
(assuming it's the one indicated by the Mailer header. The 2.x series
was discontinued a long time ago. This may or may not be relevant.
poc
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Re: [Evolution] help with duplicate contacts and merging.
On Thu, 2019-01-10 at 11:13 -0700, Jeanette Perry wrote: > ## this is the first time i posted a broadcast email any place. i am not > actually sure what to expect or how this works. I am not expecting > instant answers but in case someone responds right away, I am needing to > leave in 20 minutes, and will be back in a few hours. i will probably be > hitting send button at 11:00 am MST. > I am also thinking i will get the > answers in my email -- so if i am supposed to be going to some place or > doing something else to find them, please let me know what/where that is. > and probs in painful details as i am self learning so my knowledge is > sketchy and all over the place. thank you. i did ask to be part of the > group, i am now waiting for an instructional email, so this may not send ? You will get any replies to your query in your email, assuming you are subscribed to the list. Most people set up a filter so the list traffic gets stored in a special-purpose folder, but that's up to you. There is no "instructional email" other than the basic information on subscribing or unsubscribing. Note that the links for this are included at the end of every message on the list. You can consult the full archive of posts (i.e. message to the list) which go back many years, at: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/ Some additional points: * When asking a question, be sure to include your version of Evolution as the answer may depend on this. You can find your version by looking under Help->About when running Evolution. * "Top-posting" in replies is confusing. When posting a reply, select the specific part you want to comment on and type your reply after it (i.e. do what I'm doing here). If there are several parts to comment on, insert your comment after each part. * Try to avoid using HTML in messages to the list. Plaintext is always preferred and many of us only ever see the Plaintext version. Welcome to the list. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [OT / Meta] Evolution list as source of spam
On Mon, 2019-01-14 at 23:25 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Well, sort of a source of spam. > > At times I've mentioned that I seem to see an increase in spam when I > post to the evo list - mostly it's subjective and others have not seen > it and I'm certainly willing to accept it is coincidental. > > However, recently I've seen lots of failed delivery attempts on my mail > server. Nothing new about that, it's a regular occurrence. But these > failed addresses are message IDs that have, obviously, been harvested > from somewhere. Specifically, I'm getting log messages of the type: > > 2019-01-14 20:57:31 H=(mail.rentautos.eu) [85.14.240.55] > F= rejected RCPT > <1421662613.17426.6.ca...@biggs.org.uk>: Unknown user > > (I don't think there's anything there that needs to be redacted! The > hosts and From addresses change frequently.) > > Every single one of those message-ID type addresses are from mails I > have sent to the Evolution mailing list. They are from a while ago - > 2015 to be precise - but still, someone is obviously harvesting > anything that even vaguely looks like an email address from an evo > mailing list archive somewhere. > > I know there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about it, and these > things are just noise in my logs, it's just interesting that it is > evidence that someone/something has been harvesting the list and no > doubt our real addresses have got themselves on a list somewhere. I've seen a few of those, though only very occasionally. Possibly my spam filter (Gmail) is trapping them, though I'd need to look to be sure. The archives are of course on-line, and even though they don't directly the poster's address is (trivially) obscured it would not be difficult to write a script to harvest this info. And of course anyone who keeps a private archive could also be a source. Even storing old list traffic (as I do myself) would be be vulnerable to intrusions. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help! I have hidden the Menu Bar
On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 14:23 +, talyazaps via evolution-list wrote: > I'm a new Evolution user, and a fantastic so far. You don't say what version. It's important always to mention this, see Help->About. > My problem is: > I have hidden almost everything including the menu bar (trying to get a > really clean, clear layout! !) and now I can't do anything! > How do I get it back? ? I'm going to uninstall and reinstall I suppose if all > else fails. Reinstalling Evolution will make no difference whatever. Linux is not Windows. The configuration setting that's causing this is part of your own user environment and will not be reset by a reinstall. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help! I have hidden the Menu Bar
On Sat, 2019-01-19 at 11:27 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 14:23 +, talyazaps via evolution-list wrote: > > I have hidden almost everything including the menu bar (trying to get > > a really clean, clear layout! !) and now I can't do anything! > > > > How do I get it back? > > Open the Help on your machine. The dropdown in the upper corner let's > you choose "All Help". Find the Evolution help. Open it. Go to "The > Evolution main window": "If you ever accidentially hide the menu bar, > press Alt and re-enable it by toggling View ▸ Layout ▸ Show Menu Bar." > > Reinstalling never ever solves a problem. To be pedantic, it might solve a problem if there was something damaged in the actual installation, but I've never seen that happen and if it did it would be an indication of greater problems, so generally speaking reinstalling is a waste of time. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Signatures are not saved
On Thu, 2019-01-24 at 12:53 -0500, Paulo Cesar G Costa wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2019, at 1:28 AM, Milan Crha via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > > By the way, you just hijacked a thread. Do not start new conversation > > by replying to an existing (and totally unrelated) message and change > > the subject, it's not enough. Rather click the address of the mailing > > list to really start a new thread. > > Bye, > > Milan > > Oops. I’m sorry. I thought that changing the title would create a new threat. > My apologies. > I’ll initiate a new threat and include the tests I will do tonight using the > terminal. No, changing the subject line does not create a new thread (or threat, which something completely different!). Threads are tied together mainly through the In-Reply-To: header. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter Problems
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 12:46 -0800, Douglas Summers wrote: > (Evolution 3.28, Mint 19.1) > > I have (2) email addresses that refuse to cooperate - one never > believes that it's spam, the other that it's not. The first one is from > Microsoft (no surprise here, huh?) and the other I accidentally marked > as spam and must manually change it every time a new message arrives. > > How can I fix this? Maybe start by saying what spam filter you have. Evolution supports several. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter Problems
On Wed, 2019-02-06 at 14:05 -0800, Douglas Summers wrote: > On Wed, 2019-02-06 at 23:00 +0100, Ángel wrote: > > On 2019-02-05 at 15:08 -0800, Douglas Summers wrote: > > > The only spam plug-in that's installed is Bogofilter. This is > > > happening > > > on a Hotmail account. > > > > What is filtering the email as spam? Hotmail or your local evolution > > client? > > > > If hotmail automaticall files the email as spam on arrival instead of > > delivering into your inbox, then there is little that evolution can > > do > > when it gets to it. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Yes, never thought of that. It explains why I can never place Microsoft > Rewards emails into spam! :-) No it doesn't, unless your local spam filter isn't working. You haven't said what mail protocol you're using, though for a Hotmail account I assume it's POP. In which case all of your mail is coming into your On This Computer folder unless your input filters move it somewhere else (which is what the spam filters do of course). Note that you can configure the (local) spam filter to pay attention to the spam indication coming from the server. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter Problems
On Wed, 2019-02-06 at 14:25 -0800, Douglas Summers wrote: > You > > haven't > > said what mail protocol you're using, though for a Hotmail account I > > assume it's POP. In which case all of your mail is coming into your > > On > > This Computer folder unless your input filters move it somewhere else > > (which is what the spam filters do of course). Note that you can > > configure the (local) spam filter to pay attention to the spam > > indication coming from the server. > > > I'm using EWS on one account and IMAPX on the other; both are > hotmail.com addresses, but I only need emails on one of them (IMAPX). Check the settings under Preferences->->Receiving Options. You can (separately) turn on or off filtering and junk processing for all folders or only for the Inbox. If only the Inbox is being looked at, anything put in a folder at the server end will not be further processed. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 17:41 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote: > Pardon me for asking this again.. I lost my notes I had saved that I > took down from this group. You could always look at the archive: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/ poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying Attachments
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 14:23 +, Norman Lambert via evolution-list wrote: > I've only just joined this group and am not yet > into its etiquette. Welcome to the list. Please note some general guidelines when replying to messages. Most of these are common practice in nearly all technical mailing lists: * Avoid top-posting, i.e. add your remarks *after* the material youwant to comment on rather than before it. * Quote only the specific material you want to comment on, rather than including the entire message. In Evolution the easiest way to do this is by selecting the text before hitting Reply. * In the same vein, remove the boilerplate text (the horizontal line and everything below it) from the end of the message you are quoting. The list software will add another copy even if it's already there. * Whenever possible, use Reply-to-List rather than Reply-to-All. This makes threading easier. Unfortunately it's not always possible, because someone already broke the thread by using Reply-to-All. * Never introduce a new topic by hitting Reply and changing the Subject. This is called thread hijacking and is frowned on. * Use plaintext in preference to HTML. Cheers poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Rules for different accounts]]
On Sat, 2019-02-16 at 12:56 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote: > I am not sure if my reply went though.. > > I accidently had EVO set to compose in HTML and I never got an email > from the group with what I replied...And I didn't catch my error until > after I sent the email.. > > So I am going to send this again if thats okay? The easy way to check is just to look at the list archive. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Rules for different accounts]]
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 11:12 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote: > On Sat, 2019-02-16 at 22:24 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The easy way to check is just to look at the list archive. > > > > poc > > > > > > I looked at the archives, but I don't remember what month I asked that > question in. I know it was sometime last year. > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-July/msg00116.html poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > Home\thunderbird\xx.default\Mail\Local Folders\Saved_Mail.sbd Sorry, but I have to ask: are those the actual pathnames, including 'Home' and the '\' characters? Because if they are it looks like you're using Windows. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
