[Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
Hi, seemingly the update from 3.38.4 to 3.40.0 changed the view chosen by the user, see attachment. I for example prefer one "force image" button, over two buttons. IMO updates shouldn't override/overwrite existing views, at least an update should check, if a button already exists, instead of adding a duplicate. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > seemingly the update from 3.38.4 to 3.40.0 changed the view chosen by > the user, see attachment. I for example prefer one "force image" > button, > over two buttons. IMO updates shouldn't override/overwrite existing > views, at least an update should check, if a button already exists, > instead of adding a duplicate. IMHO it's not up to the software to check whether you may have manually added icons via some hacks, and then check for each icon if it may be shown by default now, and then remove your custom icon's position. If you make random customizations then it is up to you to maintain and rebase these customizations. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:51 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > wrote: > > seemingly the update from 3.38.4 to 3.40.0 changed the view chosen by > > the user, see attachment. I for example prefer one "force image" > > button, > > over two buttons. IMO updates shouldn't override/overwrite existing > > views, at least an update should check, if a button already exists, > > instead of adding a duplicate. > > IMHO it's not up to the software to check whether you may have manually > added icons via some hacks, and then check for each icon if it may > be shown by default now, and then remove your custom icon's position. > > If you make random customizations then it is up to you to maintain and > rebase these customizations. > Quite. What if you have a system with multiple users each making customisations? How is that to be reconciled? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:51 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > wrote: > > seemingly the update from 3.38.4 to 3.40.0 changed the view chosen by > > the user, see attachment. I for example prefer one "force image" > > button, > > over two buttons. IMO updates shouldn't override/overwrite existing > > views, at least an update should check, if a button already exists, > > instead of adding a duplicate. > > IMHO it's not up to the software to check whether you may have manually > added icons via some hacks, and then check for each icon if it may > be shown by default now, and then remove your custom icon's position. > > If you make random customizations then it is up to you to maintain and > rebase these customizations. Hi, adding this icon by a "hack" was quite important a while ago, not really a "random customizations". I don't have a link to the email archive at hand. However, those who suffer from the same "hack" and don't remember what the action is named, but who want to get rid of a duplicated icon: $ ls -hAl .config/evolution/ui/evolution-mail.ui*; diff .config/evolution/ui/evolution-mail.ui* .rw-r--r-- rocketmouse rocketmouse 6.8 KB Sat Apr 10 11:34:13 2021 .config/evolution/ui/evolution-mail.ui .rw-r--r-- rocketmouse rocketmouse 6.8 KB Mon May 18 08:44:22 2020 .config/evolution/ui/evolution-mail.ui-BAK-2021-04-10 80a81 > Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:51 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > seemingly the update from 3.38.4 to 3.40.0 changed the view chosen by > > > the user, see attachment. I for example prefer one "force image" > > > button, > > > over two buttons. IMO updates shouldn't override/overwrite existing > > > views, at least an update should check, if a button already exists, > > > instead of adding a duplicate. > > > > IMHO it's not up to the software to check whether you may have manually > > added icons via some hacks, and then check for each icon if it may > > be shown by default now, and then remove your custom icon's position. > > > > If you make random customizations then it is up to you to maintain and > > rebase these customizations. > > > Quite. What if you have a system with multiple users each making > customisations? How is that to be reconciled? Hi, I don't insist in such a feature, I only want to answer your question. It should not remove the button/icon from the .config, but when launching Evolution, Evolution could still add the button/icon as mentioned by the .config/evolution/ui/evolution-mail.ui and if so, to skip adding it to the toolbar in addition to a default location. Evolution could only add the button/icon to a default location or don't add it at all, if .config doesn't contain it. This would work without issues even for multi user systems and is done by "if config-file, then, else" equivalents for a lot of settings by programmers of all kind of different programming languages, for software all the time. It's not something unusual to provide such a feature. I was just surprised to see a duplicated button/icon after an update. A button/icon that was seemingly considered as unneeded for several releases by the developers, hence the "hack". Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 15:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > adding this icon by a "hack" was quite important a while ago, not > really > a "random customizations". I don't have a link to the email archive > at > hand. However, those who suffer from the same "hack" and don't > remember > what the action is named, but who want to get rid of a duplicated > icon: Those users could also simply read the user docs instead of searching random archives: Help 🡒 Contents 🡒 Customizing tool bar and menu items Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view
> > I was just surprised to see a duplicated button/icon after an update. A > button/icon that was seemingly considered as unneeded for several > releases by the developers, hence the "hack". > I think that would be better phrased as "I was delighted to see that the developers had found time to add a feature that I thought was needed for a while. Now I'll just have to try and remember how I made the changes a while ago to add it to my personal config and reverse them." P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Phishing [was Re: Suppressing Tool Tips]
I recently received the following two messages from t...@prost-net.de addressed to me directly and not via the list. My mail filter put them into my evolution folder and, on finding them there, I unwisely read them. It appears that someone is using the list to get addresses for phishing. Be forewarned! On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 jonrysh@pacbell wrote> How can I suppress tool tips in evolution? Preferably for evolution > only and not for other applications. On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 19:12 +0300, t...@prost-net.de wrote: > Der Vertrag wurde aktualisiert, bitte überprüfen Sie es. > https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1we5Cef3XBSeOiT49IKYsguBzshVEyHlp&export=download > Das Passwort des Archivs: The archive contains a single file (information_91355.vbs), which I read but did not execute. I don't see what damage could arise from reading the file. Is this correct? On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 01:33 +0300, t...@prost-net.de wrote: > Ich habe einige Änderungen vorgenommen. Bitte prüfen Sie das. > https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag_-4idvS3jkddLaaMWHzsOOE1E?e=KNt8yE > Das Passwort des Archivs: The link is to what looks like my own OneDrive account. I (foolishly) entered the password, , given in the message. In fact, I don't have an account on OneDrive, so the damage appears to be minor. -- Sincerely Jonathan Ryshpan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
