Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38 composer oddities

2020-12-04 Thread Pete Biggs


> 
> > Second, when replying to an HTML mail in plain text the conversion of
> > the HTML is not good, well, non-existent. All that seems to happen is
> > that the markup is removed without any attempt to mimic the layout.
> > Straight forward text is acceptable, but with tables it results in
> > all the text of the table running into one long line, no line breaks
> > or spaces to try and separate things, just everything pushed
> > together.
> 
> I'd not call it non-existent, when the only issue is with the tables,
> or at least when the markup is removed. You are right the tables are
> not covered well. It's a bug. Feel free to file it against Evolution.
> I do not know how well a multiline cell of a table can be converted
> into the plain text to cover layout closely.
> 
Perhaps an easier approach is to use the Plain Text version in a reply
if it exists, or at least make it an option. (I understand that some
plain text versions are useless in that they just say "use html".)

Even if I switch to the plain text version, replying uses the HTML
version. Or rather the default display version is always used, not what
is currently being displayed.

How about instead of just a "Lose formatting" button you have two
buttons "Convert HTML" and "Use Plain Text version" (with the latter
greyed our if no version present).

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38 composer oddities

2020-12-04 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 09:27 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Even if I switch to the plain text version, replying uses the HTML
> version. Or rather the default display version is always used, not
> what is currently being displayed.

Hi,
there's a bug for it filled.

> How about instead of just a "Lose formatting" button you have two
> buttons "Convert HTML" and "Use Plain Text version" (with the latter
> greyed our if no version present).

I'm afraid it's too late, the message is gone at the time of the format
question. The question is shown also when switching the mode in the
composer, not only on open of it.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-12-04 Thread Chris Ramsden via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 23:31 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 22:47 +0100, Ángel wrote:
> > I suspect evolution is launching gpg and awaiting for gpg to return
> > the
> > result. Maybe gpg is trying to automatically fetch the key from the
> > keyservers and hanging at that point?
> 
>   Hi,
> no idea from my side. The only thing one can try:
> 
>$ CAMEL_DEBUG=gpg evolution
> 
> and when it's frozen, then
> 
>$ ps ax | grep gpg
> 
> and check whether it's running or not. Having evolution waiting on the
> gpg response, it'll be shown in the backtrace:
> 
>$ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" --pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
> 
> In case you'd like to share it anywhere, check the bt.txt for any
> private information, like passwords, email addresses, server
> addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at least (quotes for clarity
> only).
> 
> I do not know whether it's needed here, 3.30.5 is too old (limited
> manpower, I'm sorry).
> 
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
> 
Hey, thank you for looking into this. 

Without doing the diagnostics, I do know that other signed messages are
handled properly, almost always with the warning that the key isn't
known. 

Two issues arising:: 

1. Does Evolution have any tools or support for downloading public keys
etc? I've used such a capability in other email clients. Do I need to
learn how to use gpg directly at the command line? 

2. How can I get a later version of the binary for Evolution? My
Debian-based distro (LMDE) offers only 3.30.5-1.1. 

Thanks!

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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-12-04 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 11:42 +0100, Chris Ramsden via evolution-list
wrote:
> 1. Does Evolution have any tools or support for downloading public
> keys etc?

Hi,
the Evolution doesn't have any such option, but it also doesn't block
the key auto-retrieve, unless the application is in the offline mode.
Thus when you've configured gpg to download keys from some server and
you are online, gpg can download it.

> 2. How can I get a later version of the binary for Evolution? My
> Debian-based distro (LMDE) offers only 3.30.5-1.1. 

That's the question for your distribution. Maybe you can get it as a
Flatpak, the version from Flathub.org is fine.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-12-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 14:01 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > 2. How can I get a later version of the binary for Evolution? My
> > Debian-based distro (LMDE) offers only 3.30.5-1.1. 
> 
> That's the question for your distribution. Maybe you can get it as a
> Flatpak, the version from Flathub.org is fine.

Insert standard disclaimer here? Flatpack versions live in their own
sandbox and don't fully communicate with the rest of your desktop.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-12-04 Thread Chris Ramsden via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 13:07 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 14:01 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > > 2. How can I get a later version of the binary for Evolution? My
> > > Debian-based distro (LMDE) offers only 3.30.5-1.1. 
> > 
> > That's the question for your distribution. Maybe you can get it as a
> > Flatpak, the version from Flathub.org is fine.
> 
> Insert standard disclaimer here? Flatpack versions live in their own
> sandbox and don't fully communicate with the rest of your desktop.
> 
> poc
> 
> 
Noted.

Thank you. 

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Chris

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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-12-04 Thread Chris Ramsden via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 14:01 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 11:42 +0100, Chris Ramsden via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > 1. Does Evolution have any tools or support for downloading public
> > keys etc?
> 
>   Hi,
> the Evolution doesn't have any such option, but it also doesn't block
> the key auto-retrieve, unless the application is in the offline mode.
> Thus when you've configured gpg to download keys from some server and
> you are online, gpg can download it.
> 
> > 2. How can I get a later version of the binary for Evolution? My
> > Debian-based distro (LMDE) offers only 3.30.5-1.1. 
> 
> That's the question for your distribution. Maybe you can get it as a
> Flatpak, the version from Flathub.org is fine.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
> 
> 
I looked into the key management tools offered by my distro and found
they were not working well - in fact hanging when trying to import
keys. 

I installed gpg2 and gpg-agent and a) key import started working, and
b) the troublesome messages are now all rendered properly in Evolution.

Again, thank you for your time on this. 

-- 
Chris


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