Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2020-01-26 at 17:46 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> Is there anything to be done about the built in text editor. It
> often...

Hi,
those are semi-known bugs (they are filled, they are not only that much
known by the users, I think). It's being (slowly) worked on them. The
current plan is to have most of those issues fixed by the 3.38.0
release (yes, really that far away), but no promises.

> Would I be likely to have less trouble with an external editor?

Maybe.

> If so, which one would be best?

No idea. I stick to the built in editor myself. It can be that my type
flow (aka work flow) doesn't reproduce the bugs that you face that
often.
Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] forward email by filter rule failed

2020-01-27 Thread @web.de
Version: 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1

I observe unexpected behavior by forwarding emails by a filter rule. an
example log entry is like follows:

2020-01-24 11:37:04 - Applied filter "01: Spam_Beschwerde" to
message from Girokonto  - "Für die ganze
Familie: Das kostenlose Girokonto¹"
Header 'From' value ' "Girokonto" '
does match '@nl.'
Finished test of message uid:1649 subject:'Für die ganze
Familie: Das kostenlose Girokonto¹' from '@vivaldi.net : INBOX' as
MATCHED
Filter '01: Spam_Beschwerde' matched

Action: Set Seen flag
Action: Forward message to
'allgemeiner-s...@internet-beschwerdestelle.de'
Action: Set Junk flag
   Filter '01: Spam_Beschwerde' did not match


(1) From log point of view all seems to be processed like intended, but
what ios about the last line after the action set? What does this line
telling me?

(2) The mail has not been sent. Instead it's in the local outgoing
folder and never will be sent correctly, but if I reopen the mail and
send again, the sending process is successful.

My question:

(A) Is it possible (e.g. by a hidden setting)  to prevent sending the
mail via the local  account and maybe get rid of local account, because
I don't need?
(B) How can I make it possible that the forwarding via filter rule run
successful withaout reopeneing the mail?

Best regards,
Sebastian


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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-01-26 at 17:46 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> Is there anything to be done about the built in text editor.  It often
> deletes more than is highlighted, sometimes deletes less.  It fails to
> convert all of a highlighted text region to a new format (say Bulleted
> List).  It does not restore what was deleted when pressing ctrl/z:
> sometimes more sometimes less.  Generally this kind of thing happens
> with text pasted in from an external source.  Would I be likely to have
> less trouble with an external editor?  If so, which one would be best?

I've never seen this, but I wonder if it's affected by your current
theme or font (including size).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] forward email by filter rule failed

2020-01-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2020-01-26 at 20:13 +0100, @web.de wrote:
> (1) From log point of view all seems to be processed like intended,
> but what ios about the last line after the action set? What does this
> line telling me?

Hi,
the "did not match" text looks like a bug in the code. I do not know
whether it's fixed in the current stable version (3.34.x) or not.

> (2) The mail has not been sent. Instead it's in the local outgoing
> folder...

That's expected and intended behavior. Messages are piled into On This
Computer/Outbox to be sent later, all together.

> and never will be sent correctly,

Really? Can you try to right-click the Outbox folder and pick Flush
Outbox from the context menu, or File->Sent/Receive->Send All? It will
send the messages, unless a wrong From account was picked by the
filter.

> (A) Is it possible (e.g. by a hidden setting) to prevent sending the
> mail via the local account and maybe get rid of local account,
> because I don't need?

No, as I said above, the use of the On This Computer/Outbox folder is
intentional. What you can change, with a hidden option, is to flush the
Outbox after filters are finished. That can be done with:

   $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail flush-outbox true

I'm not sure whether you've that option available in your version
though.

> (B) How can I make it possible that the forwarding via filter rule
> run successful withaout reopeneing the mail?

See the answer for (A).

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 10:20 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I've never seen this, but I wonder if it's affected by your current
> theme or font (including size).

Hi,
you are right, I didn't mention it in my previous reply to this thread.
A lot of issues with undo/redo had been caused by certain fonts and/or
their sizes.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread 황병희
Hellow Jon^^^

Jonathan Ryshpan  writes:

> Is there anything to be done about the built in text editor. It often deletes 
> more than is highlighted, sometimes deletes less. It fails to convert all of 
> a highlighted text region to a new format (say Bulleted
> List). It does not restore what was deleted when pressing ctrl/z: sometimes 
> more sometimes less. Generally this kind of thing happens with text pasted in 
> from an external source. Would I be likely to have
> less trouble with an external editor? If so, which one would be best?

If you like Emacs, choose Emacs for that. You could use Emacs' good
things all with Evolution. That's very good, fantastic^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 09:20 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-01-26 at 17:46 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > Is there anything to be done about the built in text editor.  It
> > oftendeletes more than is highlighted...
> 
> I've never seen this, but I wonder if it's affected by your
> currenttheme or font (including size).

Judging by your reply, you probably send messages in plain text; I
never see these problems when composing messages in plain text.  I
prefer to use HTML since the formatting is more elegant; but I may
change.

About fonts: The only info I see about fonts is in 
Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences
Which is 
Message Display
[unchecked]  Use the same fonts as other applications
Standard Font   Cantarell Regular   15
Fixed Width FontMonospace Regular   14

Thanks all - jon



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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 19:23 +0900, 황병희 wrote:
> Hellow Jon^^^
>
> Jonathan Ryshpan  writes:
>
> > Would I be likely to have less trouble with an external editor? If
> > so, which one would be best?
>
> If you like Emacs, choose Emacs for that. You could use Emacs' good
> things all with Evolution. That's very good, fantastic^^^

I don't consider "If you like XYZ, then use XYZ" style comments too
helpful... And everybody, please do NOT turn this thread into some "I
like blue better than red" bikeshed discussion. Thanks in advance.

andre
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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 07:41 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 09:20 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-01-26 at 17:46 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > Is there anything to be done about the built in text editor.  It
> > > often
> > > deletes more than is highlighted...
> >
> > I've never seen this, but I wonder if it's affected by your current
> > theme or font (including size).
>
> Judging by your reply, you probably send messages in plain text; I
> never see these problems when composing messages in plain text. I
> prefer to use HTML since the formatting is more elegant; but I may
> change.

If you find any reproducible issues in Evolution, then please write
clear complete bug reports in the issue tracker if not reported yet:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/?state=opened
https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/BugReportingGuidelines

Thanks,
andre
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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 07:41 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 09:20 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-01-26 at 17:46 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > Is there anything to be done about the built in text editor.  It
> > > oftendeletes more than is highlighted...
> > 
> > I've never seen this, but I wonder if it's affected by your
> > currenttheme or font (including size).
> 
> Judging by your reply, you probably send messages in plain text;

Of course. I also prefer receiving them in plain text.

> I
> never see these problems when composing messages in plain text.  I
> prefer to use HTML since the formatting is more elegant; but I may
> change.

Evolution permits a certain amount of formatting without using HTML.
This is called Rich Text.

Lists:
 * One
 * Two
   1. Two dot one
   2. Two dot two

Indented paragraphs:
   Like this
  And this
   And this

Right-justified:
 Like this line for example
 And centered

Plus of course the Preformatted option which just puts in whatever you type or 
paste from a copy buffer without trimming lines.

I find these pretty much cover anything I need to do.

poc


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Re: [Evolution] Editor woes

2020-01-27 Thread 황병희
> do NOT turn this thread into some "I like blue better than red"

Thanks for guidence^^^

Sincerely,

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