[Evolution] Remote content warning box
On Evolution 3.18.2 In 3.18 there was introduced a box that appears at the top of the message to warn you about remote content not being downloaded. I applaud the motives behind such a thing, but personally I find its current incarnation too intrusive. It's almost as big as the headers and pushes the mail down every time it appears - which is incredibly off putting when dealing with lots of messages. Is there any way of modifying this message box behaviour? In future releases, might it be possible to find a more compact way of doing the same thing? What about at the bottom of the message instead of the top? Or using the area to the right of the grey header box that's used for very little? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Remote content warning box
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 10:34 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Is there any way of modifying this message box behaviour? Hi, no, there currently isn't any way to modify its behaviour. Even, a workaround had been added, but it might be removed once a real solution is implemented. See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755418 Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
Thanks Roy. Top of today's to do list is new email provider, and I will seriously consider this. Dave, On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 02:35 AM, agua...@openmailbox.org wrote: > El 2015-12-03 02:22, dave boland escribió: > > Paul, > > > > I have used gmail, but I'm bothered by their privacy and their desire > > to > > sell personal information. Same for Yahoo. > > > > Dave, > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 04:02 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 15:19 -0500, dave boland wrote: > >> > My isp has a 90 day limit that I did not know about. The only > >> > alternative is tw, and I doubt that the will be a big improvement. > >> > >> Ugh. I'm not sure why you're restricted to only those two > >> alternatives, > >> but that's a bummer. You could try getting a gmail account (or > >> something), and have your ISP mail account forward all your mail > >> there. > > -- > > dave boland > > dbola...@fastmail.fm > > Try openmailbox.org. FOSS (running Roundcube), a bit of OpenCloud > storage and no ads. If you like it, give them a bit of cash as well. > It's a small price to pay for privacy. > > Best, > Roy > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
All, I have decided to go with another email provider, but I need to be able to get my current email stored locally (archived). What is the easiest way to do that? I read a procedure online that basically said to highlight the email in a folder (Inbox), then File >> Save. Problem is that the option is actually save as mbox, which is different, but maybe better (don't know). Suggestions? Evolution 3.16.5. Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 22:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote: ---trimmed--- >> My isp has a 90 day limit that I did not know about. The only >> alternative is tw, and I doubt that the will be a big improvement. >> I do think it is time to get better email hosting, which is >> independent of the isp. > There shouldn't be any reason to restrict your mail provider to just > your ISP (unless they are real bastards and block access to other > places! In which case dump them.). Gmail is a reasonable start and it > is integrated nicely with Evolution via Gnome online accounts - > although some of the ways they do things is a bit non-standard. > > P. I use Earthlink (POP protocol) at home with Time-Warner as ISP. No problems with evolution. They are cheap (not free) and do not have the nonstandard features of Gmail. Maybe SPAM filtering is over- aggressive. I can't say whether they read your mail like Google does, but at least I don't see ads based on my email content. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 11:39 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Suggestions? Evolution 3.16.5. Hi, right-click some root folder (under the account name), choose "Copy folder to..." there and pick some On This Computer destination (ideally create a new subfolder there first, thus you do not mix existing folders with the new stuff). Then the selected folder and its subfolders (children) will be copied to the destination. if you've more toplevel folders, then repeat that for each for them. Always check the result of the copy, just in case. Hope it helps, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client
Pete - thanks for your reply. See my comments interleaved below. --Mark -Original Message- > From: Pete Biggs > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:49:12 + > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client > > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 01:24 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > > I've just installed Evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS with Cinnamon > > desktop. So far I like it, but I'm having some problems. > > As others have said, it appears that 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.04 is broken in > various ways (it's to do with the Ubuntu packaging - 3.10 was fine on > other systems). 3.10 is also very old now and unsupported. So, your recommendation? Should I get the latest stable release? I assume that would be 3.18.2 from https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution/3.18/. Or do you think that wouldn't work on Ubuntu. Any idea why the Ubuntu folks have not kept this updated? In fact, I don't think I've used Evolution enough to have found actual bugs. > > > > 1. I've configured 2 accounts: one for POP, one for IMAP -- different > > servers > > (personal, work). The POP accounts works just fine. The IMAP account works > > for > > sending (which means the SMTP works), but I can't get my mail. I've > > configured > > iPhone, Android, Outlook, roundCube to connect to the IMAP server and they > > all > > work. I believe I'm using the same settings for Evolution, but nothing. > > When I > > monitor the dovecot log on the IMAP server it shows nothing at all when I do > > send/receive on Evolution. Yet I can `telnet popserver.com 143 and it > > connects > > and shows in the dovecot log. It's as if Evolution isn't even trying the > > IMAP > > connection. I've tried ports 143 and 993, with and without TLS. Nada. Any > > idea > > what's going on? > > Run Evolution from the command line to see if any errors are shown. If > there is nothing obvious, run it with IMAP debugging enabled - see > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging > > and that will tell you what is happening. In fact, I now have this working. Not sure what the problem was. Maybe an expired security certificate. I saw a warning on that when trying to connect using Thunderbird and when I fixed the cert, Evolution started working. > > 2. On the POP account, I have a calendar. I've clicked Actions > Publish > > Calendar, but nothing at all happens. Why? > > What do you mean that you "have a calendar" on the POP account? And > what did you expect to happen when you publish the calendar? Have you > setup the location to publish to? I shouldn't have said "on the POP account". Ignore that. What I expect to happen when I click on 'Publish' is to see a dialog, like Outlook, with options to publish to a WebDAV server and asking for the name of the server, date range to publish, etc. Instead, nothing at all happens. After reading your comment, I suppose I do need to configure this first. In Preferences > Calendar and Tasks > Locations > Add, I see where to do this. I'll go through the instruction in https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/calendar-publishing.html.en and post back if I have issues. > > 3. I've "labeled" one of the messages as 'Important' (right-click message > > > Label > Important). This is indicated on the 'Label' drop-down as a red > > square. > > However, the message does not show this anywhere. I can select 'Show > > > Important' and it does filter by that, but I'd like to see the red square > > somewhere in my message list view. Doable? > > > Messages marked as "Important" will be coloured red in the message list > and have a flag/indicator in the third column (the actual icon used > depends on your window manager and theme). There is no indication in > the message view of the flag status. > > But you should also be aware that there is a difference between the > "Important" flag (Right click > Mark as Important) and the Evolution > internal label "Important" (Right click > Label > Important). The > labels only apply to the messages on a specific machine - i.e. they are > held in a local database; the flag, which is an IMAP property, will be > present on whatever client is using the IMAP store. > > Yes, I know it's confusing, it's historical. The rationale is that the > labels can be modified to say anything - it just so happens one of them > says "Important" by default; the Flag is a marker that by convention > means "this message is important" on mail clients. OK, yes, a bit confusing. I'm going to reply to this with a new thread. > P. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit
[Evolution] Issues with labels and flags
On Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:49:12 + Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 01:24 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > > 3. I've "labeled" one of the messages as 'Important' (right-click message > > > Label > Important). This is indicated on the 'Label' drop-down as a red > > square. > > However, the message does not show this anywhere. I can select 'Show > > > Important' and it does filter by that, but I'd like to see the red square > > somewhere in my message list view. Doable? > > > Messages marked as "Important" will be coloured red in the message list > and have a flag/indicator in the third column (the actual icon used > depends on your window manager and theme). There is no indication in > the message view of the flag status. > > But you should also be aware that there is a difference between the > "Important" flag (Right click > Mark as Important) and the Evolution > internal label "Important" (Right click > Label > Important). The > labels only apply to the messages on a specific machine - i.e. they are > held in a local database; the flag, which is an IMAP property, will be > present on whatever client is using the IMAP store. > > Yes, I know it's confusing, it's historical. The rationale is that the > labels can be modified to say anything - it just so happens one of them > says "Important" by default; the Flag is a marker that by convention > means "this message is important" on mail clients. Yes, confusing. Here is another comment from Milan Crha in response to your comment: On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 13:13:20 +0100 Milan Crha wrote: > this is true only if the server doesn't support custom flags. If it > does, then even the labels are stored server-side (IMAP speaking). > Furthermore, Evolution uses the same standard labels as Thunderbird, > thus you can see what you've set in Thunderbird when opening the same > folder in the Evolution and vice versa. Milan's point about Thunderbird answers another question (why label names are the same in Tbird and Evolution). But here's the thing: When I 'tag' something to e.g. "Personal" in Thunderbird (green), it shows up as green in Evolution. But when I 'label' something as "Personal" (green) in Evolution, it does not show in Thunderbird. 'Tagging' in Thunderbird adds tag letters to the IMAP filename (e.g. the trailing "b" in cur/1449002747.6406_0.mail:2,Sb). 'Labeling' in Evolution does not. So, does Evolution have the ability to do actual IMAP flagging like Thunderbird? Evolution does seem to be able to properly render IMAP flags, but can it set the flags? Evolution 'labels' appear to be an internal thing. --Mark ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 13:26 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > > As others have said, it appears that 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.04 is broken in > > various ways (it's to do with the Ubuntu packaging - 3.10 was fine on > > other systems). 3.10 is also very old now and unsupported. > > So, your recommendation? Should I get the latest stable release? I > assume that would be 3.18.2 from > https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution/3.18/. Or do you think > that wouldn't work on Ubuntu. Any idea why the Ubuntu folks have not > kept this updated? Ubuntu is no different than any other distribution: Red Hat, Fedora, SuSE, etc. If you use a distribution release which is going on 2 years old, then the software versions in that release will be old and not supported upstream. Release-based distributions don't put newer versions of software in already-published releases. This is quadruply-true of Evolution which is NOT a stand-alone application like Firefox etc.: it's an integrated component of the GNOME desktop. If you want a newer version of Evolution you'll have to upgrade to a newer version of the entire GNOME desktop. If you want a newer version of Evolution, then simply upgrade your version of Ubuntu. If you switch to the current Ubuntu 15.10 release (I personally prefer the Ubuntu GNOME version, not native Ubuntu, but whatever) then you'll get Evolution 3.16.5 which is not the latest but is much closer. [1] There are exceptions, usu ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client
Yes, I quite understand about the whole version/package delay thing. I've also used Slackware for years which is even more dramatic in this respect. However, I though I was using the "latest" stable version. The http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop site shows 14.04.03 LTS and 15.10 versions downloadable. Possibly I'm confused. I thought 14.04.03 was the latest stable and 15.10 beta-ish, techies invited to test. Am I mistaken? What exactly is the difference between "The latest version of ... Ubuntu (15.10)" and "Long Term Support" version (14.04.03). Maybe I got off on the wrong foot to begin with. --Mark -Original Message- > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client > From: Paul Smith > To: Mark Foley > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org > Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:41:02 -0500 > > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 13:26 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > > > As others have said, it appears that 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.04 is broken in > > > various ways (it's to do with the Ubuntu packaging - 3.10 was fine on > > > other systems). 3.10 is also very old now and unsupported. > > > > So, your recommendation? Should I get the latest stable release? I > > assume that would be 3.18.2 from > > https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution/3.18/. Or do you think > > that wouldn't work on Ubuntu. Any idea why the Ubuntu folks have not > > kept this updated? > > Ubuntu is no different than any other distribution: Red Hat, Fedora, > SuSE, etc. If you use a distribution release which is going on 2 years > old, then the software versions in that release will be old and not > supported upstream. Release-based distributions don't put newer > versions of software in already-published releases. > > This is quadruply-true of Evolution which is NOT a stand-alone > application like Firefox etc.: it's an integrated component of the GNOME > desktop. If you want a newer version of Evolution you'll have to > upgrade to a newer version of the entire GNOME desktop. > > If you want a newer version of Evolution, then simply upgrade your > version of Ubuntu. If you switch to the current Ubuntu 15.10 release (I > personally prefer the Ubuntu GNOME version, not native Ubuntu, but > whatever) then you'll get Evolution 3.16.5 which is not the latest but > is much closer. > > > [1] There are exceptions, usu > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 14:08 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > Yes, I quite understand about the whole version/package delay thing. > I've also used Slackware for years which is even more dramatic in this > respect. However, I though I was using the "latest" stable version. > > The http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop site shows 14.04.03 LTS and > 15.10 versions downloadable. Possibly I'm confused. I thought > 14.04.03 was the latest stable and 15.10 beta-ish, techies invited to > test. Am I mistaken? What exactly is the difference between "The > latest version of ... Ubuntu (15.10)" and "Long Term Support" version > (14.04.03). Maybe I got off on the wrong foot to begin with. Probably this belongs on an Ubuntu list not here, but basically the Ubuntu Long Term Support releases are more like Red Hat Enterprise releases: the LTS releases are released every 2 years or so and intended to be used on systems where you don't need the latest software but you want support and you don't want to upgrade your system very often. They are supported for 5 years. So, Ubuntu 14.04 was released in April 2014 and will be supported until April 2019. But note "support" means security and important bug fixes, it does not mean "new versions of software". In 2019, Ubuntu 14.04 will still have the same version of Gnome and Evolution as it did when it was released. The next LTS release will be 16.04, out next April. That one will have Evolution 3.18 available BTW and be supported until 2021. Non-LTS Ubuntu releases are supported for only 9 months... so you need to upgrade to the next one within 3 months of it being released (Ubuntu releases come out every 6 months) if you want continuous support. However, non-LTS releases are not "beta-ish": they are real releases and not restricted only to techies and pretesters. Every Ubuntu release goes through a beta period before it's released. The big difference is the support lifetime, not the quality: you are signing up to upgrade your system more often if you want it to be supported. Regardless of LTS/non-LTS, though, it's still always the case that a newer version of a software package like Evolution (etc.) will never be backported to an already-published release of Ubuntu so you'll always have to upgrade to a newer release if you want it. HTH! ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Using Evolution with Exchange
I am on Debian Jessie. Should I be able to use an Exchange server by setting it up in Gnome Online Accounts, or do I need to install other packages first? If I try installing evolution-ews in Synaptic, it fails, and I get the following error: evolution-ews: Depends: libebook-contacts-1.2-0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libedata-book-1.2-20 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libevolution (<3.13) but 3.18.2-1 is to be installed Depends: evolution (<3.13) but 3.18.2-1 is to be installed I get server errors when I try using Gnome Online Accounts. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client
Yes, you are right. This would be more approriate in a Ubuntu forum, but probably not practical for us to move this thread there. Besides, I've seen a number of posts here (including mine) where the solution to many problems is to get the latest version of Evolution. So probably this thread will help others and keep redundant clutter off the list. So, since I amd doing research for a future office-wide migration from Windows to Ubuntu (for workstations), I really should be using the non-LTS versions so I am utilizing the latest software of all packages. When I am happy with what I've tested and am ready to migrate the office (a year or two from now) I can snag whatever the most current LTS version is and install that on workstations. Thanks for the clarification. I will upgrade my system and get a more recent Evolution and see if my issues still persist. THX --Mark -Original Message- > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client > From: Paul Smith > To: Mark Foley > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org > Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 14:34:09 -0500 > > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 14:08 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > > Yes, I quite understand about the whole version/package delay thing. > > I've also used Slackware for years which is even more dramatic in this > > respect. However, I though I was using the "latest" stable version. > > > > The http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop site shows 14.04.03 LTS and > > 15.10 versions downloadable. Possibly I'm confused. I thought > > 14.04.03 was the latest stable and 15.10 beta-ish, techies invited to > > test. Am I mistaken? What exactly is the difference between "The > > latest version of ... Ubuntu (15.10)" and "Long Term Support" version > > (14.04.03). Maybe I got off on the wrong foot to begin with. > > Probably this belongs on an Ubuntu list not here, but basically the > Ubuntu Long Term Support releases are more like Red Hat Enterprise > releases: the LTS releases are released every 2 years or so and intended > to be used on systems where you don't need the latest software but you > want support and you don't want to upgrade your system very often. They > are supported for 5 years. So, Ubuntu 14.04 was released in April 2014 > and will be supported until April 2019. But note "support" means > security and important bug fixes, it does not mean "new versions of > software". In 2019, Ubuntu 14.04 will still have the same version of > Gnome and Evolution as it did when it was released. > > The next LTS release will be 16.04, out next April. That one will have > Evolution 3.18 available BTW and be supported until 2021. > > Non-LTS Ubuntu releases are supported for only 9 months... so you need > to upgrade to the next one within 3 months of it being released (Ubuntu > releases come out every 6 months) if you want continuous support. > > However, non-LTS releases are not "beta-ish": they are real releases and > not restricted only to techies and pretesters. Every Ubuntu release > goes through a beta period before it's released. The big difference is > the support lifetime, not the quality: you are signing up to upgrade > your system more often if you want it to be supported. > > Regardless of LTS/non-LTS, though, it's still always the case that a > newer version of a software package like Evolution (etc.) will never be > backported to an already-published release of Ubuntu so you'll always > have to upgrade to a newer release if you want it. > > HTH! > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
Milan, Thanks for the info. All went reasonably well, but I did run into one issue that I need to fix. One of the sub-folders didn't copy and now I'm getting the error "Error refreshing folder: STATUS Invalid mailbox name." What do I do now? I would really like to get this folder back. two other question. My isp says they support pop3. Would I be smart to use that instead of imap+ and leave the mail on the server (which is what I used to do, and I assume Evolution 3.16.5 can still do)? Finally, I see a potential problem with copying folders. Assuming I want to keep my archive on my computer current, I will have to copy the inbox weekly or monthly. Then I'll have a mess of archives. Is there a better way of creating archives on my computer? Thanks, Dave On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 01:21 PM, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 11:39 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > Suggestions? Evolution 3.16.5. > > Hi, > right-click some root folder (under the account name), choose "Copy > folder to..." there and pick some On This Computer destination (ideally > create a new subfolder there first, thus you do not mix existing > folders with the new stuff). Then the selected folder and its > subfolders (children) will be copied to the destination. if you've more > toplevel folders, then repeat that for each for them. > > Always check the result of the copy, just in case. > Hope it helps, > Milan > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Issues with labels and flags
Mark Foley wrote: > Milan's point about Thunderbird answers another question (why label > names are > the same in Tbird and Evolution). But here's the thing: When I 'tag' > something > to e.g. "Personal" in Thunderbird (green), it shows up as green in > Evolution. > But when I 'label' something as "Personal" (green) in Evolution, it > does not > show in Thunderbird. 'Tagging' in Thunderbird adds tag letters to > the IMAP > filename (e.g. the trailing "b" in cur/1449002747.6406_0.mail:2,Sb). > 'Labeling' in Evolution does not. Is it an IMAP account or a local Maildir? Or are you looking at the filename at the server filesystem? It looks like what Dovecot does for locally storing the label (in addition of using the index): http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir#IMAP_keywords In that case, evolution seems to be doing something "wrong" (or perhaps not recognising that the server can store them), as Dovecot isn't picking them (while with thunderbird it does). Can you provide the IMAP commands sent by evolution? In order to get evolution log, you can use: CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution &>log.txt ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Using Evolution with Exchange
Michael Wenyon wrote: > I am on Debian Jessie. Should I be able to use an Exchange server by > setting it up in Gnome Online Accounts, or do I need to install other > packages first? You will need evolution-ews in order to connect using Exchange Web Services (you could also connect by IMAP to Exchange). > If I try installing evolution-ews in Synaptic, it fails, and I get > the > following error: > > evolution-ews: > Depends: libebook-contacts-1.2-0 but it is not going to be installed > Depends: libedata-book-1.2-20 but it is not going to be installed > Depends: libevolution (<3.13) but 3.18.2-1 is to be installed > Depends: evolution (<3.13) but 3.18.2-1 is to be installed > You have some "misconfiguration" in your apt sources. Debian Jessie has evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1+b1, which won't conflict with the evolution-ews you are trying to install. It looks like you added another source that provides a newer evolution version, but not an accompaning evolution-ews. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
Even easier would be to configure the same account in evolution using POP, which is what you had been using in the previous evolution version. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Using Evolution with Exchange
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 14:41 -0500, Michael Wenyon wrote: > I am on Debian Jessie. Should I be able to use an Exchange server by > setting it up in Gnome Online Accounts, or do I need to install other > packages first? GOA is for access to Google services (Gmail, contacts etc.). AFAIK it has nothing to do with Exchange or EWS. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 17:18 -0500, dave boland wrote: > two other question. My isp says they support pop3. Would I be smart > to use that instead of imap+ and leave the mail on the server (which > is what I used to do, and I assume Evolution 3.16.5 can still do)? Definitely not. POP (including POP3) does not support folders on the server side, or indeed many other features of IMAP. The only purpose in setting "leave on server" for POP is so you can read your mail from multiple clients, and even then it's usually assumed that one of those clients will delete the mail from the server after downloading it. IMHO the only justification for using POP is when the server side doesn't support IMAP. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
How do I do that? I went through all the account properties and could not find a way to change to POP without recreating the account, which I don’t want to do. Also, does Evolution have the ability to leave mail on the server so I have access to it remotely? It used to, but that was a few versions ago. Thanks, Dave On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 06:13 PM, Ángel González wrote: > Even easier would be to configure the same account in evolution using > POP, which is what you had been using in the previous evolution > version. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 07:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 17:18 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > two other question. My isp says they support pop3. Would I be smart > > to use that instead of imap+ and leave the mail on the server (which > > is what I used to do, and I assume Evolution 3.16.5 can still do)? > > Definitely not. POP (including POP3) does not support folders on the > server side, or indeed many other features of IMAP. The only purpose in > setting "leave on server" for POP is so you can read your mail from > multiple clients, and even then it's usually assumed that one of those > clients will delete the mail from the server after downloading it. > > IMHO the only justification for using POP is when the server side > doesn't support IMAP. > > poc Fair enough. However, I need a plan that gets the emails on my computer so they can be archived, and do so as automatically as possible. My isp deletes email older than 90 days, and I don't want to have to do archiving manually all the time. So what do I do if POP3 is not the answer? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
dave boland wrote: > How do I do that? I went through all the account properties and > could not find a way to change to POP without recreating the account, > which I don’t want to do. You need to configure your email as a new evolution account. There's no way to "reconfigure an IMAP account as POP". You can do so without removing the earlier account using IMAP, though. > Also, does Evolution have the ability to leave mail on the server so > I have access to it remotely? It used to, but that was a few > versions ago. Yes, there's an option «Keep mails on server» Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client
Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 01:24 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > > I've just installed Evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS with > > Cinnamon > > desktop. So far I like it, but I'm having some problems. > > As others have said, it appears that 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.04 is broken > in > various ways (it's to do with the Ubuntu packaging - 3.10 was fine on > other systems). 3.10 is also very old now and unsupported. I disagree. It has some quirks (none Ubuntu-specific AFAIK), but nothing that makes it unusable (actually you may not even notice them). I have been using it for a long time without problems. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
POP won't allow him to download the files he has already moved to server folders, but it's the easiest solution for any future mail he receives IMHO. Not everyone needs to access his mail from multiple devices. :-) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
Dave In Evolution as you are setup now you have 2 accounts "On My Computer" and whatever you named the Account with your ISP. Under the On My Computer inbox you can create a hierarchy of folders to contain your archives. Then create a filter rule that looks at your IMAP inbox (or other folders as you wish) and copies to the folders in the On My Computer. Every time you fetch mail all new messages should then be copied locally. -Original Message- From: evolution-list [mailto:evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of dave boland Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:25 PM To: Patrick O'Callaghan ; evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 07:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 17:18 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > two other question. My isp says they support pop3. Would I be smart > > to use that instead of imap+ and leave the mail on the server (which > > is what I used to do, and I assume Evolution 3.16.5 can still do)? > > Definitely not. POP (including POP3) does not support folders on the > server side, or indeed many other features of IMAP. The only purpose in > setting "leave on server" for POP is so you can read your mail from > multiple clients, and even then it's usually assumed that one of those > clients will delete the mail from the server after downloading it. > > IMHO the only justification for using POP is when the server side > doesn't support IMAP. > > poc Fair enough. However, I need a plan that gets the emails on my computer so they can be archived, and do so as automatically as possible. My isp deletes email older than 90 days, and I don't want to have to do archiving manually all the time. So what do I do if POP3 is not the answer? Dave, -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list "Email Firewall" made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately.. == ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email
Very cool. I'll look into this tomorrow. Dave, On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 07:40 PM, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: > > Dave > > In Evolution as you are setup now you have 2 accounts "On My Computer" > and whatever you named the Account with your ISP. Under the On My > Computer inbox you can create a hierarchy of folders to contain your > archives. Then create a filter rule that looks at your IMAP inbox (or > other folders as you wish) and copies to the folders in the On My > Computer. Every time you fetch mail all new messages should then be > copied locally. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: evolution-list [mailto:evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf > Of dave boland > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:25 PM > To: Patrick O'Callaghan ; evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to easily archive imap email > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 07:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 17:18 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > > two other question. My isp says they support pop3. Would I be smart > > > to use that instead of imap+ and leave the mail on the server (which > > > is what I used to do, and I assume Evolution 3.16.5 can still do)? > > > > Definitely not. POP (including POP3) does not support folders on the > > server side, or indeed many other features of IMAP. The only purpose in > > setting "leave on server" for POP is so you can read your mail from > > multiple clients, and even then it's usually assumed that one of those > > clients will delete the mail from the server after downloading it. > > > > IMHO the only justification for using POP is when the server side > > doesn't support IMAP. > > > > poc > > Fair enough. However, I need a plan that gets the emails on my computer > so they can be archived, and do so as automatically as possible. My isp > deletes email older than 90 days, and I don't want to have to do > archiving manually all the time. So what do I do if POP3 is not the > answer? > > Dave, > -- > dave boland > dbola...@fastmail.fm > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > "Email Firewall" made the following annotations. > -- > > Warning: > All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail > system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the > recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is > intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of > this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you > have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, > distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you > have received this message in error, please notify the sender > immediately.. > > == > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Issues with labels and flags
> From: Ángel González > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 23:59:26 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Issues with labels and flags > > Mark Foley wrote: > > Milan's point about Thunderbird answers another question (why label > > names are > > the same in Tbird and Evolution). But here's the thing: When I 'tag' > > something > > to e.g. "Personal" in Thunderbird (green), it shows up as green in > > Evolution. > > But when I 'label' something as "Personal" (green) in Evolution, it > > does not > > show in Thunderbird. 'Tagging' in Thunderbird adds tag letters to > > the IMAP > > filename (e.g. the trailing "b" in cur/1449002747.6406_0.mail:2,Sb). > > 'Labeling' in Evolution does not. > > Is it an IMAP account or a local Maildir? Or are you looking at the > filename at the server filesystem? It is an IMAP account hosted on a remote (office) server in Maildir format served by Dovecot. > It looks like what Dovecot does for locally storing the label (in > addition of using the index): > http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir#IMAP_keywords Yes, I am *very* familiar with that page! I keep reading and re-reading it hoping, like some Hogwarts character, that some magic insight will pop out. > In that case, evolution seems to be doing something "wrong" (or perhaps > not recognising that the server can store them), as Dovecot isn't > picking them (while with thunderbird it does). Well, Pete Biggs said (in a part of the message you didn't include): "The labels only apply to the messages on a specific machine - i.e. they are held in a local database; the flag, which is an IMAP property, will be present on whatever client is using the IMAP store." So, he is making a distinction between lables and flags. But I see no mechanism for setting one versus the other in Evolution. Also, it could be I need a newer version of Evolution, which I'm going to try getting this evening. > Can you provide the IMAP commands sent by evolution? > > In order to get evolution log, you can use: > > CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution &>log.txt Ha! If you can tell me how to do that, I'd be glad to try. Is that CAMEL... line you have the howto? Do I just type that at a command line, as is? Do I have to be root? Do I do it before starting Evolution? Need a bit more info on this. Meanwhile, I'll try upgrading Ubuntu/Evolution. Hope that doesn't hose my whole system. --Mark ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
