Re: [Evolution] 3.16.0 e-mail date coming out as "?" instead of correct time/date

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 15:48 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote:
> This is in regards to Evolution 3.16.0 running under Ubuntu 15.04.
> 
> Recently, some dates on non-USA e-mail have been coming out as "?" 
> instead of 26.06.15 14:57 (for example)
> 
> The latest case was two very important e-mails from a long-time 
> correspondent in Paris, France, area.  They went to the bottom of my 
> InBox.  I would not have known they were there except they flashed up 
> on the screen as they came in.  Message header shows: Delivery-Date: 
> Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:09:46 -0700 .
> 
> Is there a reason for the "?"?

Hi,
it depends on the columns you've shown in the message list. The Date
column corresponds to the Date header, not Delivery-Date. The Received
column corresponds to the Received headers, which are set by the
server(s).

I suspect the original message doesn't contain the Date header. It is
probably there right now, because Evolution added it on its own, though
it was too late for the message summary to get the change.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Google Contacts stopped working 3.10.4

[Pete Biggs]

> 
> I am assuming (maybe incorrectly?) that by GOA you mean Gnome Online
> Accounts - which appears on my Ubuntu desktop as a globe with some keys
> in front of it? WHen I start that program I am prompted to select my
> primary contacts account and given a choice of either LOCAL ADDRESS BOOK
> or ONLINE ACCOUNTS.

Don't know anything about Ubuntu, except that they sometimes do some
strange things.  I would suspect that what is labelled as "online
accounts" depends on which desktop you are running.  The safest thing
is to run 'gnome-control-center' from a command line to get direct
access to the Gnome Online Account configuration applet.

> 
> > > Clicking on "online account " does nothing whatsoever...
> > 
> > Once you have configured your Google GOA, and turned on "Contacts" in
> > the GOA configuration, you will see the account listed in the Contacts
> > section of Evolution clicking on "contacts" under that should show
> > everything.
> 
> What exactly do you mean by "Configured Google GOA?"

I mean that you have configured Gnome Online Accounts to have access to
your Google account.

> 
> I think I've followed your suggestion but I am still getting the error
> message 'This address book cannot be opened.  This either means that an
> incorrect URI was entered, or the server is unreachable.'

Remove your Google account completely from Evolution addressbook
section - it's not going to work and it will avoid confusion.  In fact
once you get your GOA setup working you can remove Google from mail as
well as the configuration for that will be handled externally to
Evolution.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 08:54 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 19:41 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > One thing: having restarted Evo the newly configured (via GOA) 
> > Gmail
> > account now shows as Unnamed, while previously it had shown as
> > @gmail.com. There doesn't appear to be any way to change 
> > this.
> 
>   Hi,
> that's https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732598
> 

I added this comment to BZ:

In fact my complaint is not only that the original name was lost, but
that even before being lost the original name couldn't be changed to my
preference. It was just set to the account's email address without
asking.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution launches java?

[mario chiari]

Hi

thanks reply.
Which plugins? I did install IcedTea-web for firefox, does it matter for
Evolution?
m.



Il giorno mer, 24/06/2015 alle 19.35 +0200, Milan Crha ha scritto:
> On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 16:54 +0200, mario chiari wrote:
> > I just discovered that when I launch Evolution from my terminal
> > (Fedora 20), I get a message about Java (see below). Why so?
> 
>   Hi,
> it's not running it, it's the opposite. When evolution starts, it lists
> all available plugins and disables them. Unfortunately WebKit also
> loads those plugins (even they will be disabled a tick later) and some
> of them gives a notice of them during this load on the console.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 08:57 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 19:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > It's set to "Defer to desktop preferences", which in turn is set to 
> > 
> > "no proxy".
> 
>   Hi,
> setting "Direct connection" would be safer. If I recall correctly, 
> then
> there used to be a "problem" that the system proxy settings were 
> moved,
> but the evolution code didn't know it and read it from the old keys.
> Probably not the case now, as it's long time ago; I do not know.
> 

None of the options is "direct connection". I see:

Defer to Desktop
Manual
Automatic
None

Automatic wants me to give a URL to get the settings from, so
presumably I have to specify Manual and fill in the various fields by
hand. Is that what you mean?

poc
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Re: [Evolution] new to evo

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 17:22 +0200, Wolf Drechsel wrote:
> thank you very much for that reply.
> Can that be true? - I'm using one of the most popular Linux distros -
> and cannot find a seriously useable PIM?

Yes this is true.  ((Popularity != Quality)==True)

As a l-o-n-g time LINUX user - as someone who sits at a LINUX
workstation and does *work* all day [things other than fiddling with
LINUX for kicks];  I can tell you with great confidence there are many
many LINUX users [people who install LINUX, fiddle, surf the web, write
snarky BLOG posts, install LINUX, fiddle... install LINUX, fiddle,...]
and a smaller set of LINUX Users [see the capital-U] of people who
install LINUX and then proceed to do productive things using real tools
and applications.  To be a productive user, on LINUX, a key ingredient
is to learn to ignore ~90% of the LINUX 'verse;  they are just bored
tinkerers who love to try out packages.

> What do folks recommend? - Is Linux Mint a reasonable choice?

I use openSUSE, and have for a decade.

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA

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Re: [Evolution] new to evo

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 20:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 17:56 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> I also use Fedora, but it's important to note that you are assumed to
> be willing to update your system regularly. Fedora releases are not
> supported for more than a year, so if that doesn't suit you another
> distro might be better. Personally I don't have a problem with this 
> but each person has their own requirements.

This is generally true of any decent desktop environment - remember
that Microsoft releases updates about every other Tuesday!  And they
generally install automatically [unless you disabled that].

I do not understand the concept of LTS for a desktop.

I run the rolling release [Tumbleweed] of openSUSE.  But it is up to me
when to update.  So I update when I have the time, and it is okay if
maybe something has an issue.  When I am swamped with work - or it is
*MONDAY* - or I have a deadline; then I just work and ignore updates. 
 If everything is working you always have the option to LEAVE IT ALONE.

People who think it is a great idea to do updates on Sunday night...
that is not a technology problem.

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA

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Re: [Evolution] 3.16.0 e-mail date coming out as "?" instead of correct time/date

[John Lauterbach]

Thank you, Milan.  Looks like one needs to use "Received" as opposed to "Date". 
 "Date" is still showing "?" while received is showing correct date and time.
John
-Original Message-
From: Milan Crha 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] 3.16.0 e-mail date coming out as "?" instead of 
correct time/date
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:00:58 +0200
On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 15:48 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote:
> This is in regards to Evolution 3.16.0 running under Ubuntu 15.04.
> 
> Recently, some dates on non-USA e-mail have been coming out as "?" 
> instead of 26.06.15 14:57 (for example)
> 
> The latest case was two very important e-mails from a long-time 
> correspondent in Paris, France, area.  They went to the bottom of my 
> InBox.  I would not have known they were there except they flashed up 
> on the screen as they came in.  Message header shows: Delivery-Date: 
> Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:09:46 -0700 .
> 
> Is there a reason for the "?"?
Hi,
it depends on the columns you've shown in the message list. The Date
column corresponds to the Date header, not Delivery-Date. The Received
column corresponds to the Received headers, which are set by the
server(s).
I suspect the original message doesn't contain the Date header. It is
probably there right now, because Evolution added it on its own, though
it was too late for the message summary to get the change.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

[Rudolf Künzli]

You should set it to "None" which results in a direct connection !

Rudolf

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On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 11:48 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 08:57 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 19:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > It's set to "Defer to desktop preferences", which in turn is set 
> > > to 
> > > 
> > > "no proxy".
> > 
> > Hi,
> > setting "Direct connection" would be safer. If I recall correctly, 
> > then
> > there used to be a "problem" that the system proxy settings were 
> > moved,
> > but the evolution code didn't know it and read it from the old 
> > keys.
> > Probably not the case now, as it's long time ago; I do not know.
> > 
> 
> None of the options is "direct connection". I see:
> 
> Defer to Desktop
> Manual
> Automatic
> None
> 
> Automatic wants me to give a URL to get the settings from, so
> presumably I have to specify Manual and fill in the various fields by
> hand. Is that what you mean?
> 
> poc
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Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 13:31 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> You should set it to "None" which results in a direct connection !

Thanks, I would never have guessed that.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] new to evo

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 07:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 20:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 17:56 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> > I also use Fedora, but it's important to note that you are assumed 
> to
> > be willing to update your system regularly. Fedora releases are not
> > supported for more than a year, so if that doesn't suit you another
> > distro might be better. Personally I don't have a problem with this 
> 
> > but each person has their own requirements.
> 
> This is generally true of any decent desktop environment - remember
> that Microsoft releases updates about every other Tuesday!  And they
> generally install automatically [unless you disabled that].

I update my system every morning as a matter of course, but that's not
what I'm talking about. Fedora brings out a new release every 6 months
and only supports the current release and the previous one. Releases
over a year old will not get even critical security updates, so
upgrading the release is something the sysadmin has to take specific
steps to do. If he doesn't, even regular package updates will not get t
he new release.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] new to evo

[Rudolf Künzli]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 07:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 20:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 17:56 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> > > I also use Fedora, but it's important to note that you are 
> > > assumed 
> > to
> > > be willing to update your system regularly. Fedora releases are 
> > > not
> > > supported for more than a year, so if that doesn't suit you 
> > > another
> > > distro might be better. Personally I don't have a problem with 
> > > this 
> > 
> > > but each person has their own requirements.
> > 
> > This is generally true of any decent desktop environment - remember
> > that Microsoft releases updates about every other Tuesday!  And 
> > they
> > generally install automatically [unless you disabled that].
> 
> I update my system every morning as a matter of course, but that's 
> not
> what I'm talking about. Fedora brings out a new release every 6 
> months
> and only supports the current release and the previous one. Releases
> over a year old will not get even critical security updates, so
> upgrading the release is something the sysadmin has to take specific
> steps to do. If he doesn't, even regular package updates will not get 
> t
> he new release.
> 
> poc

I second that entirely !!!

Rudolf
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Re: [Evolution] Sort Contacts by Birthday

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 11:37 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> yes, it should be doable. File an enhancement request at
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution
> please.
> 

Hi,
just for a record, and easier archive searching, Oliver filled:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751488
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] evolution launches java?

[Milan Crha]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 11:53 +0200, mario chiari wrote:
> Which plugins? I did install IcedTea-web for firefox, does it matter 
> for Evolution?

Hi,
I do not know. It's for all WebKitGTK+ (not Evolution) finds in the
standard/well-known paths for plugins, where also other web browsers
look for them.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

[Milan Crha]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:38 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 13:31 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> > You should set it to "None" which results in a direct connection !
> 
> Thanks, I would never have guessed that.

Hi,
right, the "None" stands for "None Proxy server".
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 14:51 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:38 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 13:31 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> > > You should set it to "None" which results in a direct connection 
> > > !
> > 
> > Thanks, I would never have guessed that.
> 
>   Hi,
> right, the "None" stands for "None Proxy server".
>   

I should have realised that of course. Perhaps "No Proxy" or "Direct
Connection" would be slightly clearer.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Google Contacts stopped working 3.10.4

[Jon Parker]

On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 09:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Remove your Google account completely from Evolution addressbook
> section - it's not going to work and it will avoid confusion.  In fact
> once you get your GOA setup working you can remove Google from mail as
> well as the configuration for that will be handled externally to
> Evolution.

Through a combination of adding and deleting accounts both in Evolution
itself and GOA (which I can't remember) I'm pleased to say that
everything is now working. Therefore please nobody change anything, ever
again!

Jon

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