Re: [Evolution] Executing evolution logs the user out

[Pete Biggs]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 02:25 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-12-20 at 17:02 -0700, Bart wrote:
> > I'm calling for an administrator to put an end to this.  Please.
> 
> I was thinking about this. 
> The original poster is not subscribed hence postings are in moderation
> but it feels weird if folks who are explicitly CCed reply to the list
> and if the list does not have those postings actually quoted.

That explains why I wasn't seeing some things ...

If you have the list config set to not send duplicates, then when you
are sent a direct copy of the mail, you never receive the list copy, so
have no idea that it hadn't been seen by everyone.

I was going to ask if there was someway of flagging up that a poster was
not subscribed to the list - but that wouldn't work when things are sent
direct and CC'd to the list. (Not being subscribed is NOT a crime, there
are plenty of other ways of reading the posts and there's no reason not
to help non-subscribers ... [and I apologise for the multiple negatives
in that sentence!]).

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Executing evolution logs the user out

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 10:32 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> If you have the list config set to not send duplicates, then when you
> are sent a direct copy of the mail, you never receive the list copy,
> so have no idea that it hadn't been seen by everyone.

You do see the CC header though.

> I was going to ask if there was someway of flagging up that a poster
> was not subscribed to the list - but that wouldn't work when things
> are sent direct and CC'd to the list. (Not being subscribed is NOT a
> crime, there are plenty of other ways of reading the posts and there's
> no reason not to help non-subscribers ... [and I apologise for the
> multiple negatives in that sentence!]).

Interesting idea, but I don't think Postfix supports it.

Complaining about the list while not being subscribed to it (rather than
just asking a question) counts as trolling in my book.

poc



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Re: [Evolution] Executing evolution logs the user out

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:30:45 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> You do see the CC header though.

Just a few replies were CC'ed ;) and I guess less of us care about what
replies were CC'ed and what replies were not CC'ed ;D.

Merry Christmas!
Ralf

PS: Since it's Christmas time there's less traffic, so IMO it was more
entertaining, than an annoyance. The OP perhaps should consider that
its an misinterpretation to evaluate the replies as being rough.

If no user (and/or developer) is able to help, than likely more
information is needed.

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[Evolution] UTF-8: Non-ASCII in subject: –

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


with Debian Sid/unstable and Evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1 using
the sign – in the subject line, it is incorrectly shown in the message
list, but correctly shown in the message view. Let’s see if you can
reproduce this.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] UTF-8: Non-ASCII in subject: –

[Andre Klapper]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 12:55 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> with Debian Sid/unstable and Evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1 using
> the sign – in the subject line, it is incorrectly shown in the message
> list, but correctly shown in the message view. Let’s see if you can
> reproduce this.

Not with this message. 3.12.8 on Fedora 21. 
What does "incorrectly" actually mean?

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Re: [Evolution] UTF-8: Non-ASCII in subject: –

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 12:55 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear Evolution folks,
> 
> 
> with Debian Sid/unstable and Evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1 using
> the sign – in the subject line, it is incorrectly shown in the message
> list, but correctly shown in the message view. Let’s see if you can
> reproduce this.

Looks the same to me. What should it look like?

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Executing evolution logs the user out

[Pete Biggs]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 11:30 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 10:32 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > If you have the list config set to not send duplicates, then when you
> > are sent a direct copy of the mail, you never receive the list copy,
> > so have no idea that it hadn't been seen by everyone.
> 
> You do see the CC header though.

Sure, but what I mean is that even if someone subscribed to the list
CC's me or the list, then I will only ever see the one sent directly to
me - because of the non-duplicate setting the list software won't send a
list version to me so I won't know if it has been received by the list
or not.  For instance the CC'd email you replied to didn't appear on the
list for another 36 hours or so (headers say it was sent 19Dec@07:14 and
received by list members 20Dec@18:46), but no doubt you received it
straight away and never got the list version.


> 
> Complaining about the list while not being subscribed to it (rather than
> just asking a question) counts as trolling in my book.
> 
Quite.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] UTF-8: Non-ASCII in subject: –

[Pete Biggs]

> 
> with Debian Sid/unstable and Evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1 using
> the sign – in the subject line, it is incorrectly shown in the message
> list, but correctly shown in the message view. Let’s see if you can
> reproduce this.

On Evo 3.12.8/ Fedora 21 the symbol is shown correctly as an en-dash in
the message list, header list and message body.

You might try running Evo from the command line to see if there are any
error messages that indicate where the problem might be - perhaps you
need another character set installed?

P.

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[Evolution] SIGSEGV when sending message

[Adam Tauno Williams]

I am getting frequent [but not always] segfaults when sending a message,
or immediately following sending a message.

evolution-3.12.7-1.1.x86_64
Linux linux-86wr.site 3.16.6-2-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT
glibc-2.19-16.2.5.x86_64
libgtk-2_0-0-2.24.25-4.4.1.x86_64
libgtk-3-0-3.14.4-4.1.x86_64

Does this backtrace mean anything to anyone?

(gdb) bt
#0  0x73c0205b in g_slice_alloc (countp=0x60c5d8, ix=0) at gslice.c:747
#1  0x73c0205b in g_slice_alloc (tmem=, ix=0) at 
gslice.c:801
#2  0x73c0205b in g_slice_alloc (mem_size=mem_size@entry=16) at 
gslice.c:996
#3  0x7474c478 in gtk_tree_path_copy (path=0x4188ac0) at 
gtktreemodel.c:935
#4  0x745b19ea in gtk_combo_box_get_active_iter 
(combo_box=combo_box@entry=0x4356e00 [GtkhtmlComboBox], 
iter=iter@entry=0x7fffd640)
at gtkcombobox.c:4435
#5  0x74500f80 in gtk_combo_box_accessible_get_name (obj=0x46a7100 
[GtkComboBoxAccessible]) at a11y/gtkcomboboxaccessible.c:120
#6  0x7fffe9c74b29 in append_cache_item (obj=obj@entry=0x46a7100 
[GtkComboBoxAccessible], data=data@entry=0x7fffd810) at cache-adaptor.c:192
#7  0x7fffe9c74efe in emit_cache_add (cache=, obj=) at cache-adaptor.c:282
#8  0x73ebcf47 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECTv (closure=0x336ffe0, 
return_value=, instance=, args=, 
marshal_data=0x0, n_params=, param_types=0x3368770) at 
gmarshal.c:1312
#9  0x73eba0a7 in _g_closure_invoke_va (closure=0x336ffe0, 
return_value=0x0, instance=0x7fffcc0082c0, args=0x7fffdaa8, n_params=1, 
param_types=0x3368770) at gclosure.c:831
#10 0x73ed23b8 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x7fffcc0082c0, 
signal_id=, detail=0, var_args=var_args@entry=0x7fffdaa8)
at gsignal.c:3218
#11 0x73ed3002 in g_signal_emit 
(instance=instance@entry=0x7fffcc0082c0, signal_id=, 
detail=detail@entry=0) at gsignal.c:3365
#12 0x7fffe9c6b72c in add_pending_items (gobj=0x46a7100 
[GtkComboBoxAccessible], cache=0x7fffcc0082c0 [SpiCache]) at 
accessible-cache.c:189
#13 0x7fffe9c6b72c in add_pending_items (data=) at 
accessible-cache.c:306
#14 0x73be68e5 in g_main_context_dispatch (context=0x6466b0) at 
gmain.c:3111
#15 0x73be68e5 in g_main_context_dispatch 
(context=context@entry=0x6466b0) at gmain.c:3710
#16 0x73be6c48 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x6466b0, 
block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=) at 
gmain.c:3781
#17 0x73be6f0a in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x336fa10) at gmain.c:3975
#18 0x7465e955 in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:1207
---Type  to continue, or q  to quit---
#19 0x00403895 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffde78) at main.c:685


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Re: [Evolution] Executing evolution logs the user out

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 15:23 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 11:30 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 10:32 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > If you have the list config set to not send duplicates, then when you
> > > are sent a direct copy of the mail, you never receive the list copy,
> > > so have no idea that it hadn't been seen by everyone.
> > 
> > You do see the CC header though.
> 
> Sure, but what I mean is that even if someone subscribed to the list
> CC's me or the list, then I will only ever see the one sent directly to
> me - because of the non-duplicate setting the list software won't send a
> list version to me so I won't know if it has been received by the list
> or not.  For instance the CC'd email you replied to didn't appear on the
> list for another 36 hours or so (headers say it was sent 19Dec@07:14 and
> received by list members 20Dec@18:46), but no doubt you received it
> straight away and never got the list version.

Right. I just meant it's a clue to the user having replied to the list.
Not 100% reliable but nothing in email ever is.

poc

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[Evolution] Learning/understanding Evolution

[Deslich, Jeffery J (IS)]

I'm a Systems Engineer that recently took on the role of system administration 
for a medium sized data center. I've no previous experience with Evolution. 
Does anyone have suggestions on reference/learning materials or classes to 
learn to administer Evolution?
Thanks,
Jeffery Deslich
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Re: [Evolution] Debugging theme comflict

[Milan Crha]

On Sat, 2014-12-13 at 19:42 +0100, Roy Reese wrote:
> Running Evo 3.12.8 under Manjaro Enlightment (E19) edition (fully 
> updated).
>  
> I recently switched to the E17gtk theme which provides an 
> Enlightenment-like theme to gtk programs. Evo looks great in the 
> theme, but the calendar (ONLY) crashes with a floating point 
> exception.

Hi,
the problem is with the Theme, it doesn't invoke "Style-changed" for 
some reason, which breaks expectations on the Calendar view. If you 
move the mouse cursor out of the window, then you'll be able to see it 
and eventually change the Calendar view to a different type. A similar 
issue can be seen in KDE with oxygen-gtk theme. More on your bug
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741796
and another recently filled and discussed here as well:
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741667

Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] SIGSEGV when sending message

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 11:05 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> I am getting frequent [but not always] segfaults when sending a 
> message, or immediately following sending a message.
> 
> evolution-3.12.7-1.1.x86_64
> Linux linux-86wr.site 3.16.6-2-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT
> glibc-2.19-16.2.5.x86_64
> libgtk-2_0-0-2.24.25-4.4.1.x86_64
> libgtk-3-0-3.14.4-4.1.x86_64
> 
> Does this backtrace mean anything to anyone?
> 

Hi,
the backtrace not, in particular, but the circumstances do, see:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734530
Evolution 3.12.9 is your candidate here.
Bye,
Milan

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