Re: [Evolution] FOREIGN KEY constraint failed 3.12.7

2014-11-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 22:15 -0500, Daye Liu wrote:
> Second that this problem had been observed for a while.
> Evolution 3.12.7 under Fedora 21.
> Would be glad to provide any related information.

Please respect threading if referring to some previous post. It's also
useful to quote the relevant part of the post you are commenting on.

poc

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[Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Everyone,

I have 5 users using Fedora 20 that are updated, and each is using
Evolution 3.10.4 within the gnome desktop that have reported problems
with their desktop 'freezing' during an access of evolution as well as
less often firefox.

The machines that have reported failures include Dell Optiplex 780, 760,
745, and 755.  

780 -
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

745 -
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

780 -
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

755 -
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

760 -
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

This has also happened to me.  When the gui freezes, cursor movement is
not affected, but I am unable to access or click any active button on
evolution or any other part of the desktop.  I can switch back and forth
from gui to terminal interface by using F2 and
F1.  The only way I have been able to continue is with a
reboot process.  

I posted this on the Fedora user's group list and received a reply that
this had also been observed by another user that made the deduction that
the problem occurs not only with evolution, but with firefox.  I had
been suspicious of firefox, but have only made the firefox observation
one time.  Apparently those that use the kde desktop even when they use
evolution have not reported this problem.

John Mellor offered this explanation on the Fedora user's list :

> I have also observed this problem, not just in Evolution, but also in
> Firefox.  In my case, the problem appears to be either (a) mail and
> web pages that contain images or videos that have problematic render
> engines on Linux, or (b) massive processor overload when web pages
> that have a large number of videos on them (such as Facebook) try to
> render them all simultaneously without limiting the resource
> utilization.
> 
> Because the problems are across more than one client application, I
> suspect that the problem is actually an inability to limit resource
> utilization by the desktop - in my case Gnome.  It has been like this
> for quite a few Fedora releases now, and other than getting away from
> Gnome, I'm not sure what else to do.  On an underpowered dual-core,
> these lockups are devastating, and sometimes even require an ACPI
> reboot to recover from.

Although John has made this observation in earlier versions of Fedora, I
have only made the observation with Fedora 20.  If you have suggestions
of a remedy, I would very much appreciate it.   I am getting user
requests to change back to an inferior platform of an operating system,
and am not inclined to do so. :)

Please help  ... Thanks,

Greg Ennis 



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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 10:51 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> 
> I have 5 users using Fedora 20 that are updated, and each is using 
> Evolution 3.10.4 within the gnome desktop that have reported 
> problems with their desktop 'freezing' during an access of evolution 
> as well as less often firefox.
> 

Hi,
to know where it froze (not necessarily why), it's good to install 
debug info packages, in this case for evolution-data-server and 
evolution should be enough), then get the desktop into the freeze 
after which switch to a text terminal and invoke this gdb command:
   $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords, 
email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at 
least (quotes for clarity only).

Then post the bt.txt here (*) to check what it is.
Bye,
Milan

(*) It might be better for other users to deal with this in a bug 
report, rather than on this list. I do not mind whether in GNOME's or 
Fedora bugzilla, in this case, because the 3.10.x is too old 
(obsolete) for GNOME, but it's possible it's upstream issue, not 
Fedora's. hard to tell without the backtrace.
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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 10:51 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> 
> I have 5 users using Fedora 20 that are updated, and each is using 
> Evolution 3.10.4 within the gnome desktop that have reported 
> problems with their desktop 'freezing' during an access of evolution 
> as well as less often firefox.
> 

Hi,
to know where it froze (not necessarily why), it's good to install 
debug info packages, in this case for evolution-data-server and 
evolution should be enough), then get the desktop into the freeze 
after which switch to a text terminal and invoke this gdb command:
   $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords, 
email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at 
least (quotes for clarity only).

Then post the bt.txt here (*) to check what it is.
Bye,
Milan

(*) It might be better for other users to deal with this in a bug 
report, rather than on this list. I do not mind whether in GNOME's or 
Fedora bugzilla, in this case, because the 3.10.x is too old 
(obsolete) for GNOME, but it's possible it's upstream issue, not 
Fedora's. hard to tell without the backtrace.

---

Milan,

Thanks for your help.  I will proceed as above, and if this is a bug
will post it in Fedora Bugzilla.

Thanks again,

Greg

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 10:51 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> 
> I have 5 users using Fedora 20 that are updated, and each is using 
> Evolution 3.10.4 within the gnome desktop that have reported 
> problems with their desktop 'freezing' during an access of evolution 
> as well as less often firefox.
> 

Hi,
to know where it froze (not necessarily why), it's good to install 
debug info packages, in this case for evolution-data-server and 
evolution should be enough), then get the desktop into the freeze 
after which switch to a text terminal and invoke this gdb command:
   $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords, 
email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at 
least (quotes for clarity only).

Then post the bt.txt here (*) to check what it is.
Bye,
Milan

(*) It might be better for other users to deal with this in a bug 
report, rather than on this list. I do not mind whether in GNOME's or 
Fedora bugzilla, in this case, because the 3.10.x is too old 
(obsolete) for GNOME, but it's possible it's upstream issue, not 
Fedora's. hard to tell without the backtrace.
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Milan,

I also had the perception that gpaste increased the frequency of this
problem so I activated gpaste, and it did not take long for the it to
happen again.  This time I was in the middle of an input statement in
evolution in the body of a text.  I have attached bt.txt as you
requested.

Greg
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[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0.3800.2-gdb.py", 
line 9, in 
from gobject import register
  File "/usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/gobject.py", line 3, in 
import gdb.backtrace
ImportError: No module named backtrace
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0.3800.2-gdb.py", 
line 9, in 
from gobject import register
  File "/usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/gobject.py", line 3, in 
import gdb.backtrace
ImportError: No module named backtrace

Thread 17 (Thread 0x7f1309af9700 (LWP 2518)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x003849049a3a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00384b8d0376 in gdbus_shared_thread_func () from 
/lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 16 (Thread 0x7f1308ca8700 (LWP 2519)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x0038490496dc in g_main_context_iteration () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x003849049729 in glib_worker_main () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 15 (Thread 0x7f1303fff700 (LWP 2520)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x0038490496dc in g_main_context_iteration () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7f13082a2b7d in dconf_gdbus_worker_thread () from 
/usr/lib64/gio/modules/libdconfsettings.so
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 14 (Thread 0x7f13037fe700 (LWP 2521)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x003849049a3a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x003cdaa495f4 in source_registry_object_manager_thread () from 
/lib64/libedataserver-1.2.so.18
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 13 (Thread 0x7f12cf7fe700 (LWP 2546)):
#0  0x003846c0bca0 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from 
/lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x003bcdd2e4b6 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::scavengerThread() () from 
/lib64/libjavascriptcor

[Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Harvey Nimmo
Does anyone have an idea where I should look to find out why my
Evolution is now so excruciatingly slow?

I am running Evolution 3.12.7 under Gnome 3.14.1 on Opensuse 13.2
(64-bit) on my desktop computer, having moved from Opensuse 13.1.  

There are 2 email accounts, one under POP (deleting all mails from the
POP server after downloading) and the other under EWS.

On starting evolution, it seems that the EWS account works as expected,
but the POP account mails are being downloaded one at a time needing
about 2-3 minutes per email. Is there a time-out somewhere that I can
tweak?

I think my evolution configuration is a little screwed up anyway. None
of the emails I delete are shown in the Wastebasket, but if I expunge
the wastebasket it is obviously cleaning up something as it needs the
appropriate time to store the folder.

Cheers
Harvey

 



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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Robert Munteanu
Hi Harvey,

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harvey Nimmo  wrote:
> Does anyone have an idea where I should look to find out why my
> Evolution is now so excruciatingly slow?
>
> I am running Evolution 3.12.7 under Gnome 3.14.1 on Opensuse 13.2
> (64-bit) on my desktop computer, having moved from Opensuse 13.1.
>
> There are 2 email accounts, one under POP (deleting all mails from the
> POP server after downloading) and the other under EWS.

I think one good start is to run one account at a time ( by disabling,
not deleting them ) and seeing if this is a problem with one of them (
more likely ) or an interaction between the both .

Cheers,

Robert

>
> On starting evolution, it seems that the EWS account works as expected,
> but the POP account mails are being downloaded one at a time needing
> about 2-3 minutes per email. Is there a time-out somewhere that I can
> tweak?
>
> I think my evolution configuration is a little screwed up anyway. None
> of the emails I delete are shown in the Wastebasket, but if I expunge
> the wastebasket it is obviously cleaning up something as it needs the
> appropriate time to store the folder.
>
> Cheers
> Harvey
>
>
>
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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Milan,

Here is another capture of the second time today this has happened on my 
machine.

In looking at the contents of this file, it is apparent that "no module
named backtrace" is present in my system.  If I need to install
something else please let me know.  I did install evolution-data-server,
but there did not appear to be any way to turn this on or off so after
the install, I do not know whether it is active or not.

Greg
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[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0.3800.2-gdb.py", 
line 9, in 
from gobject import register
  File "/usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/gobject.py", line 3, in 
import gdb.backtrace
ImportError: No module named backtrace
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0.3800.2-gdb.py", 
line 9, in 
from gobject import register
  File "/usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/gobject.py", line 3, in 
import gdb.backtrace
ImportError: No module named backtrace

Thread 18 (Thread 0x7f303fc09700 (LWP 4295)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x003849049a3a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00384b8d0376 in gdbus_shared_thread_func () from 
/lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 17 (Thread 0x7f303edb8700 (LWP 4296)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x0038490496dc in g_main_context_iteration () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x003849049729 in glib_worker_main () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 16 (Thread 0x7f303e3ab700 (LWP 4297)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x0038490496dc in g_main_context_iteration () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7f303e3b2b7d in dconf_gdbus_worker_thread () from 
/usr/lib64/gio/modules/libdconfsettings.so
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 15 (Thread 0x7f303dbaa700 (LWP 4298)):
#0  0x0038464ea71d in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0038490495b4 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x003849049a3a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x003cdaa495f4 in source_registry_object_manager_thread () from 
/lib64/libedataserver-1.2.so.18
#4  0x00384906ea45 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 14 (Thread 0x7f3009ffb700 (LWP 4318)):
#0  0x003846c0bca0 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from 
/lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x003bcdd2e4b6 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::scavengerThread() () from 
/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0.so.0
#2  0x003bcdd2e4e9 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::runScavengerThread(void*) () 
from /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0.so.0
#3  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 13 (Thread 0x7f30097fa700 (LWP 4319)):
#0  0x003846c0bca0 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from 
/lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x003cd8950cfb in WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop() () from 
/lib64/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so.0
#2  0x003cd8952c9d in WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread() () 
from /lib64/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so.0
#3  0x003bcdd470f6 in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) () from 
/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0.so.0
#4  0x003846c07ee5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#5  0x0038464f4b8d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 12 (Thread 0x7f2fafd6a700 (LWP 4323)):
#0  0x003846c0bca0 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from 
/lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x7f2fafdd1e39 in PluginRequestProcessor::queueProcessorThread() () 
from /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
#2  0x7f2fa

Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on
openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a matter of
fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at the same time.
When using Claws instead of Evolution, there are no performance issues,
so I guess it's GTK 3 what does cause the issues. My machine is an
Athlon dual-core with 4 GiB and my install is a 64-bit architecture
Arch Linux, IOW all software are current stable releases from upstream.
JFTR even if I would like to run GNOME on my machine, I couldn't,
because my machine is much to slow to run GNOME 3. You should test
Xfce4, openbox, JWM, Mate or KDE. Yes, even KDE on my machine is ok,
but Cinnamon does behave as bad as GNOME 3 does. I suspect you need
another WM/DE.
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on
> openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a matter of
> fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at the same time.
> When using Claws instead of Evolution, there are no performance issues,
> so I guess it's GTK 3 what does cause the issues. My machine is an
> Athlon dual-core with 4 GiB and my install is a 64-bit architecture

2.1 GHz

> Arch Linux, IOW all software are current stable releases from upstream.
> JFTR even if I would like to run GNOME on my machine, I couldn't,
> because my machine is much to slow to run GNOME 3. You should test
> Xfce4, openbox, JWM, Mate or KDE. Yes, even KDE on my machine is ok,
> but Cinnamon does behave as bad as GNOME 3 does. I suspect you need
> another WM/DE.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Harvey Nimmo

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on
> openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a matter of
> fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at the same time.
> When using Claws instead of Evolution, there are no performance issues,
> so I guess it's GTK 3 what does cause the issues. My machine is an
> Athlon dual-core with 4 GiB and my install is a 64-bit architecture
> Arch Linux, IOW all software are current stable releases from upstream.
> JFTR even if I would like to run GNOME on my machine, I couldn't,
> because my machine is much to slow to run GNOME 3. You should test
> Xfce4, openbox, JWM, Mate or KDE. Yes, even KDE on my machine is ok,
> but Cinnamon does behave as bad as GNOME 3 does. I suspect you need
> another WM/DE.

Thanks. I did not think of Gnome as being the possible culprit. I have
an Intel Pentium dual-core with 1 GB. I would need to familiarise myself
with the options for OpenSuse. (I have no appetite for building my own!)

Cheers
Harvey


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 22:02 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on
> > openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a matter of
> > fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at the same time.
> > When using Claws instead of Evolution, there are no performance issues,
> > so I guess it's GTK 3 what does cause the issues. My machine is an
> > Athlon dual-core with 4 GiB and my install is a 64-bit architecture
> > Arch Linux, IOW all software are current stable releases from upstream.
> > JFTR even if I would like to run GNOME on my machine, I couldn't,
> > because my machine is much to slow to run GNOME 3. You should test
> > Xfce4, openbox, JWM, Mate or KDE. Yes, even KDE on my machine is ok,
> > but Cinnamon does behave as bad as GNOME 3 does. I suspect you need
> > another WM/DE.
> 
> Thanks. I did not think of Gnome as being the possible culprit.

GNOME was not mentioned as a possible culprit for Evolution issues in
the email that you quoted.

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 14:15 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> In looking at the contents of this file, it is apparent that "no module
> named backtrace" is present in my system.  If I need to install
> something else please let me know.  

Please install debug packages for evolution and evolution-data-server.

> I did install evolution-data-server,

Evolution would have never worked if e-d-s had not been installed.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:50:00 +0100
Andre Klapper  wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 22:02 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on
> > > openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a
> > > matter of fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at
> > > the same time. When using Claws instead of Evolution, there are
> > > no performance issues, so I guess it's GTK 3 what does cause the
> > > issues. My machine is an Athlon dual-core with 4 GiB and my
> > > install is a 64-bit architecture Arch Linux, IOW all software are
> > > current stable releases from upstream. JFTR even if I would like
> > > to run GNOME on my machine, I couldn't, because my machine is
> > > much to slow to run GNOME 3. You should test Xfce4, openbox, JWM,
> > > Mate or KDE. Yes, even KDE on my machine is ok, but Cinnamon does
> > > behave as bad as GNOME 3 does. I suspect you need another WM/DE.
> > 
> > Thanks. I did not think of Gnome as being the possible culprit.
> 
> GNOME was not mentioned as a possible culprit for Evolution issues in
> the email that you quoted.

Yesno ;). Indeed I experience the same or a similar issue, at least a
performance issue, if I run Evolution and at least another application
that is very resource hungry. I don't have the same problem if I use a
GTK 2 based MUA instead, so it might or might not be related to GTK 3
in combination with my computer. The issues I experience with GNOME and
Cinnamon are most likely related to the graphics, but when experiencing
performance issues, it never can harm to test a lightweight WM/DE. JFTR
receiving and storing the received messages works perfect when running
Evolution only or Evolution and a few other applications that aren't
that resource hungry as virtual box is. Btw. when running a distro that
provides a complete environment by a default install, it can't
harm to check, if all started services are needed. If I wouldn't use
Arch Linux, but install Suse or Debian etc., I would do an "expert"
install or what ever it's called. IMO it's better to spend a few
minutes to chose what we need, instead of having tons of unneeded
services running, that could cause trouble. Perhaps I'm to pedantic,
since I use my Linux much for real-time audio work, maybe no unneeded
service has really impact to an application as Evolution.
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread N B Day
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:06 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote:
> Does anyone have an idea where I should look to find out why my
> Evolution is now so excruciatingly slow?
> 
> I am running Evolution 3.12.7 under Gnome 3.14.1 on Opensuse 13.2
> (64-bit) on my desktop computer, having moved from Opensuse 13.1.  
> 
> There are 2 email accounts, one under POP (deleting all mails from the
> POP server after downloading) and the other under EWS.
> 
> On starting evolution, it seems that the EWS account works as expected,
> but the POP account mails are being downloaded one at a time needing
> about 2-3 minutes per email. Is there a time-out somewhere that I can
> tweak?
> 
> I think my evolution configuration is a little screwed up anyway. None
> of the emails I delete are shown in the Wastebasket, but if I expunge
> the wastebasket it is obviously cleaning up something as it needs the
> appropriate time to store the folder.

Same basic setup here ... but no POP.  It has all worked very well for
me since I installed spamassassin (which doesn't get installed by
default for some reason).  Without spamassassin I would some times get a
race condition with "Unknown background operation" messages.  It seemed
to be spam-check related and installing sa *seems* to have cured it.
Maybe spam checking is holding your POP operations up.

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Hi,

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 14:15 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> In looking at the contents of this file, it is apparent that "no module
> named backtrace" is present in my system.  If I need to install
> something else please let me know.  

Please install debug packages for evolution and evolution-data-server.

> I did install evolution-data-server,

Evolution would have never worked if e-d-s had not been installed.

andre

---

Andre,

Sorry to ask a beginner question here, but what are the debug packages
for evolution.  When I do a 'yum search evolution', I do not see any
package that has debug as part of the name.  When I do a 'yum search
debug'  I do not find anything with evolution in the name.

Thanks for your help

Greg

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:16:33 -0800
N B Day  wrote:
> Same basic setup here ... but no POP.  It has all worked very well for
> me since I installed spamassassin (which doesn't get installed by
> default for some reason).  Without spamassassin I would some times
> get a race condition with "Unknown background operation" messages.
> It seemed to be spam-check related and installing sa *seems* to have
> cured it. Maybe spam checking is holding your POP operations up.

FWIW I'm using bogofilter.

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 16:18 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> Sorry to ask a beginner question here, but what are the debug packages
> for evolution.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Debuginfo
http://linux.die.net/man/1/debuginfo-install

debuginfo-install 

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Pete Biggs

> 
> Sorry to ask a beginner question here, but what are the debug packages
> for evolution.  When I do a 'yum search evolution', I do not see any
> package that has debug as part of the name.  When I do a 'yum search
> debug'  I do not find anything with evolution in the name.

yum --enablerepo=fedora-debuginfo install evolution-debuginfo 
evolution-data-server-debuginfo

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Gregory P. Ennis


-Original Message-
From: Pete Biggs 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:51:00 +

> 
> Sorry to ask a beginner question here, but what are the debug packages
> for evolution.  When I do a 'yum search evolution', I do not see any
> package that has debug as part of the name.  When I do a 'yum search
> debug'  I do not find anything with evolution in the name.

yum --enablerepo=fedora-debuginfo install evolution-debuginfo 
evolution-data-server-debuginfo

P.
-
Thanks Pete!

Greg

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 14:16 -0800, N B Day wrote:
> It has all worked very well for
> me since I installed spamassassin (which doesn't get installed by
> default for some reason).

It's not installed by default because there are other anti-spam tools,
including Bogofilter which I personally prefer for individual use (SA is
more suitable for server-side filtering).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 17:27 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Biggs 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:51:00 +
> 
> > 
> > Sorry to ask a beginner question here, but what are the debug packages
> > for evolution.  When I do a 'yum search evolution', I do not see any
> > package that has debug as part of the name.  When I do a 'yum search
> > debug'  I do not find anything with evolution in the name.
> 
> yum --enablerepo=fedora-debuginfo install evolution-debuginfo 
> evolution-data-server-debuginfo
> 
> P.
> -
> Thanks Pete!

If I may digress for a moment, I have to say I find your quoting style
rather confusing. Compare with the style used by essentially everyone
else on this and similar lists to see what I mean (or just look at this
reply itself for an example). It has the advantage of separating
multiple levels of quotes within quotes, which yours doesn't.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Mittelstaedt
Am Mittwoch, den 12.11.2014, 21:06 +0100 schrieb Harvey Nimmo:
> Does anyone have an idea where I should look to find out why my
> Evolution is now so excruciatingly slow?
> 
> I am running Evolution 3.12.7 under Gnome 3.14.1 on Opensuse 13.2
> (64-bit) on my desktop computer, having moved from Opensuse 13.1.  
> 
> There are 2 email accounts, one under POP (deleting all mails from the
> POP server after downloading) and the other under EWS.
> 
> On starting evolution, it seems that the EWS account works as expected,
> but the POP account mails are being downloaded one at a time needing
> about 2-3 minutes per email. Is there a time-out somewhere that I can
> tweak?
> 
> I think my evolution configuration is a little screwed up anyway. None
> of the emails I delete are shown in the Wastebasket, but if I expunge
> the wastebasket it is obviously cleaning up something as it needs the
> appropriate time to store the folder.
> 
> Cheers
> Harvey
> 
>  
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You may consider using something like fetchmail,
http://www.fetchmail.info/, for your pop accounts and then set up 
a local mailbox account under evolution pointing to the file where
fetchmail stores the emails. I used this in the past and worked very
well. The code for pop may be orphaned a bit in evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 13:07 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> 
> I also had the perception that gpaste increased the frequency of 
> this problem so I activated gpaste, and it did not take long for the 
> it to happen again.  This time I was in the middle of an input 
> statement in evolution in the body of a text.  I have attached 
> bt.txt as you requested.
> 

Hi,
this one is better, because it shows something happening in the main 
thread (Thead 1, at the very bottom), but otherwise is pretty much the 
same as the first backtrace. There is nothing really happening in 
evolution, I suppose from the backtrace that you have configured two 
IMAP accounts with "Listen for server change notification" option on. 
The evolution is just waiting for the notifications on both accounts. 
The second backtrace shows that a new mail arrived and it was 
notifying you about its arrival. This is done through libnotify, which 
uses D-Bus to talk to the daemon. I guess there happened some 
consequence on the D-Bus which made your desktop environment (maybe 
gnome-shell?) in a freeze, even the evolution as such is not frozen. 
I'm not a gnome-shell developer, thus I wouldn't be much of help here, 
but I would try to get a backtrace of the running gnome-shell process, 
to see what it does. Make sure you'll have installed debuginfo package 
for it, of the same version as the binary package. You can use Pete's 
command, I would change there only one thing:

   $ yum --enablerepo=fedora-debuginfo \
 --enablerepo=updates-debuginfo install gnome-shell-debuginfo

(3.10.4-9.fc20 is the current gnome-shell version in Fedora 20).

Also run evolution from a terminal and check what it claims about:
  $ evolution &>log.txt

That may give a hint as well. As you mentioned that the FireFox is 
also affected, I really do not think this is an application issue (the 
only common part might be NSS /NSPR and SQLite being used by both 
Evolution and FireFox), thus it seems to me as a good idea to aim the 
investigation towards gnome-shell. It can be even lower in the stack, 
like some D-Bus daemon, or libnotify or... who knows. I do not want to 
guess too much.

Bye,
Milan

P.S.: I hope you'll not mind, by I second Patrick's request in this 
thread. Your first reply to my first email in this thread confused me, 
making it look like you resent my own mail. If you use evolution, I 
hope you do :), then use Ctrl+L (to Reply to a list), alternatively 
Ctrl+Shift+R (Reply to all), which should compose a reply with a style 
as set in Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Reply Style. I 
think the default is Quoted, which makes it clear which text is new 
and which old.
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Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 04:27 +0100, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote:
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> 
> You may consider using something like fetchmail,
> http://www.fetchmail.info/, for your pop accounts and then set up 
> a local mailbox account under evolution pointing to the file where
> fetchmail stores the emails. I used this in the past and worked very
> well. The code for pop may be orphaned a bit in evolution.

Before considering something like this, I recommend to run   top  ,
maybe it shows what's fishy.

Regards,
Ralf

PS: Since we are writing about quoting styles in another thread. The
footnote usually isn't automatically quoted and shouldn't be quoted.


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