[Evolution] bug during transition from V2 to V3

[Anglade Pierre-Matthieu]

Hello,

I've recently upgraded my evolution (and gnome, and gtk, and so on) from
the older version 2 to version 3 ; precisely I've installed evolution
3.10.4-r1 from gentoo.

At startup evolution has asked to transition his file from older to newer
format. Once accepted the transition it has started a never ending work
using more and more memory. After few hours it has reached 10GB of memory
use (exceeding what could be gracefully used on my 6GB RAM pc). It is now
running since more than 1 week.

My questions are the following :
- Am I in the right place to ask for help ?
- Is there anyway to evaluate if the transition is still in progress ?
- Is my problem a bug or a normal behavior ?
- Is there anything I can do to help evolution perform his format
transition ?

Best regards

-- 
Pierre-Matthieu Anglade
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Re: [Evolution] bug during transition from V2 to V3

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 09:40 +0200, Anglade Pierre-Matthieu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've recently upgraded my evolution (and gnome, and gtk, and so on) from
> the older version 2 to version 3 ; precisely I've installed evolution
> 3.10.4-r1 from gentoo.
> 
> At startup evolution has asked to transition his file from older to newer
> format. Once accepted the transition it has started a never ending work
> using more and more memory. After few hours it has reached 10GB of memory
> use (exceeding what could be gracefully used on my 6GB RAM pc). It is now
> running since more than 1 week.
> 
> My questions are the following :
> - Am I in the right place to ask for help ?

Yes.

> - Is there anyway to evaluate if the transition is still in progress ?

I guess ps or top would tell you if the process is still running. Also
strace to see if it's making process.

> - Is my problem a bug or a normal behavior ?

Hard to say without more information. There are behaviours which depend
on the size of the mailstore, which you don't mention. It does seem to
be taking along time though so there might be a problem.

> - Is there anything I can do to help evolution perform his format
> transition ?

Again, hard to say without more information. For example, if your
accounts are IMAP it's relatively easy to transition them as all the
mail is on the server. If they're POP then all the local mail files have
to be converted from mbox to maildir format. In the latter case there
are ways to do the conversion offline, i.e. stopping Evo completely and
using conversion tools from the Shell. Alternatively, you can set up a
new Evo instance and then import the old mailboxes, which will convert
them on the fly. You would also have to save your address books and
re-import them, which depends on how they are set up.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] bug during transition from V2 to V3

[Anglade Pierre-Matthieu]

Hello,

Thank you for your answer. Here are more in formations corresponding to
your questions. Please, do not hesitate to ask many more. I'm very grateful
for any kind of help and then very willing to fully collaborate.

Process running ?
* To be able to use my computer, I have to SIGSTOP the process every
morning and then SIGCONT it every evening. So far, it is running since one
week. Now that the memory use has increased to it's maximum, it is seldom
able to use more than 1% of the cpu (because it is always wanting datas
stored in the swap). Before, getting to ~8GB it was persistently using
~100% of cpu. It is clear that the process is running. What is unclear for
me — and the real purpose of my question — is whether it is really working
efficiently or it has just fallen into some kind of infinite loop.

Size of the mailstore
* I'm not sure of the mailstore location. Here is what I currently have on
disk :
$ du -ms .local/share/evolution/mail/ .config/evolution/mail/
3500.local/share/evolution/mail/
2   .config/evolution/mail/

Kind of accounts
* Previously I was using a pop3 account. And I'm keeping all the associated
old emails. Now, I'm currently using an imap account. YET… for as much as
I've been able to guess, evolution IS still storing some of my emails on
disks : when I sort them out in some kind of "local folders". (I must
apologize, but I'm not able to use technically accurate wording about
emails : I'm definitely not an expert regarding these technologies).



On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 09:40 +0200, Anglade Pierre-Matthieu wrote:
>
> > - Is there anything I can do to help evolution perform his format
> > transition ?
>
> Again, hard to say without more information. For example, if your
> accounts are IMAP it's relatively easy to transition them as all the
> mail is on the server. If they're POP then all the local mail files have
> to be converted from mbox to maildir format. In the latter case there
> are ways to do the conversion offline, i.e. stopping Evo completely and
> using conversion tools from the Shell.


* I'm definitely interested in knowing more about the way to work this out
offline if it exist. Especially by shell commands. It's usually so much
more easy to understand. But you wording makes me fear the mix of pop and
imap is not a very favorable configuration (I was very surprised that
evolution was asking my password during its conversion process ; so I guess
it does require some kind of connection).


> Alternatively, you can set up a
> new Evo instance and then import the old mailboxes, which will convert
> them on the fly. You would also have to save your address books and
> re-import them, which depends on how they are set up.
>

* I guess I don't understand what you mean by a new Evo instance. Would you
mind elaborate on this please ?

Thanks for all,

PMA
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[Evolution] Evo/Linux-Friendly ISP

[Marc Hurst]

Can anyone recommend an ISP in the United States that is Linux friendly?

My current ISP recently updated their servers; and now they do not 
communicate with Evolution on my Debian Linux machines. They are 
unwilling and/or unable to test their server against a Linux client.


Any recommendations?

Thanks,
--Marc


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Re: [Evolution] Evo/Linux-Friendly ISP

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 12:05 -0400, Marc Hurst wrote:
> Can anyone recommend an ISP in the United States that is Linux friendly?
> My current ISP recently updated their servers; and now they do not 
> communicate with Evolution on my Debian Linux machines. They are 
> unwilling and/or unable to test their server against a Linux client.
> Any recommendations?

Always -> Fastmail.fm

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA

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Re: [Evolution] Evo/Linux-Friendly ISP

[Paul Smith]

On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 12:16 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 12:05 -0400, Marc Hurst wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend an ISP in the United States that is Linux friendly?
> > My current ISP recently updated their servers; and now they do not 
> > communicate with Evolution on my Debian Linux machines. They are 
> > unwilling and/or unable to test their server against a Linux client.
> > Any recommendations?
> 
> Always -> Fastmail.fm

Are you looking for just email?  Or a full site hosting service?  For
the latter I've used bluehost.com shared hosting for years and generally
have been pretty happy.  They run their servers on Linux and you can get
SSH access if you want to log in and bang around (not sudo/root, but
it's good enough for many things).  Plus the usual cpanel etc. stuff
obviously; you can do it all through the web if you prefer.  I'm
old-school :-).

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