Re: [Evolution] Feedback

2011-01-12 Thread Han Pilmeyer
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 14:02 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote:

> I am a new evolution user on Ubuntu 10.10.  An initial observation:
> mail
> folders often show some unread when there are no unread. When I click
> to
> mark all unread as read, I get a dialog asking if I want
> subdirectories
> as well as current directory, then after all that, the folder still
> shows the same unread number.  Only a close/reopen seems to clear it. 


I'm also on 10.10, but I haven't seen this behavior in years. Perhaps
this is because I use the following environment variables in the script
that I use to start Evolution:

export EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH=1
export FORCE_VFOLDER_COUNT=y
 
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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2011, 23:41 -0500 schrieb Philippe LeCavalier:
> On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 22:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:03 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: 
> > > It would be nice if the right click on a message menu contained a "reply
> > > to list" option, as does the main Message menu.
> > 
> > Bugzilla.

I'd close it as WONTFIX anyway. For follow-up insults please refer to
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308829 :-P

> Have I gone crazy or did a previous revision have that feature?

You are right. In version 2.1/2.2 the context menu got cleaned up, as it
has 21 entries that didn't let anybody find anything anymore.
You have a good memory.

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Re: [Evolution] Feedback

2011-01-12 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:11 -0500, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 14:02 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: 
> > I am a new evolution user on Ubuntu 10.10.  An initial observation: mail
> > folders often show some unread when there are no unread. When I click to
> > mark all unread as read, I get a dialog asking if I want subdirectories
> > as well as current directory, then after all that, the folder still
> > shows the same unread number.  Only a close/reopen seems to clear it.  
> > 
> > It is annoying that the dialog keeps requesting indication of subdirs or
> > just current.  Couldn't/Shouldn't that be a preference option? 
> I mentioned this here a while back and couldn't get anyone to agree it
> was annoying so I never filed a bug report on it...I knew I wouldn't
> be the only one :)
> 
> Anyone else?
> 
Didn't Matthew just say that this was fixed in 2.32?

And it seems particularly illogical to highlight something as a bug and
then not report it - so what if you are the only person affected, it may
be symptomatic of an underlying more serious issue or it may just be an
edge case, but let the developers decide.

P.

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[Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Richard
Hi All
I'm staring to find my way around now, but how do I get Evo to filter
existing mail all folders. I can do this manually by highlighting the
contents of each folder, and filtering on date received.  I would like
it to do this on start up automatically
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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 12.01.2011, 09:46 + schrieb Richard:
> Hi All
> I'm staring to find my way around now, but how do I get Evo to filter
> existing mail all folders. I can do this manually by highlighting the
> contents of each folder, and filtering on date received.  I would like
> it to do this on start up automatically

What kind of filters do you have?
What kind of accounts do you have?
What do you want to do?

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Pete Biggs

> I'm staring to find my way around now, but how do I get Evo to filter
> existing mail all folders. I can do this manually by highlighting the
> contents of each folder, and filtering on date received.  I would like
> it to do this on start up automatically

Evo will only filter "new" messages in the INBOX - and "new" in this
context means messages that have not been seen either by Evo or by any
other MUA (it's an IMAP function - Evo just asks for a list of new
messages - and "new" does not equate to "unread").

The option to filter new messages is at

  Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts -> (select account) -> Edit ->
Receiving Options -> Apply filters to new messages in INBOX

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Richard
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 10:13 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > I'm staring to find my way around now, but how do I get Evo to filter
> > existing mail all folders. I can do this manually by highlighting the
> > contents of each folder, and filtering on date received.  I would like
> > it to do this on start up automatically
> 
> Evo will only filter "new" messages in the INBOX - and "new" in this
> context means messages that have not been seen either by Evo or by any
> other MUA (it's an IMAP function - Evo just asks for a list of new
> messages - and "new" does not equate to "unread").
> 
> The option to filter new messages is at
> 
>   Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts -> (select account) -> Edit ->
> Receiving Options -> Apply filters to new messages in INBOX
> 
> P.
> 
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Thanks Pete
That's a real shame, as Using POP3 I hold about 1.5 GB of mail, which if
I filter on relative age I stop the mail file expanding to much by
either deleting or moving to an archive.
IMAP is not well handled by my isp, virginmedia, I use IMAP on my
Android phone, I only get mail in batches or not at all.
That's not using connection to a cell site, that's using the wireless
interface on my router, so it uses exactly the same route to the server
as this computer. :(
I've got the filtering of incoming mail sorted, the filtering has really
improve since the last time I looked at Evo. But If at sometime in the
future a plugin to allow automatic filtering of existing read mail it
would be a nice feature.

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Richard
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 12:07 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.01.2011, 09:46 + schrieb Richard:
> > Hi All
> > I'm staring to find my way around now, but how do I get Evo to filter
> > existing mail all folders. I can do this manually by highlighting the
> > contents of each folder, and filtering on date received.  I would like
> > it to do this on start up automatically
> 
> What kind of filters do you have?
> What kind of accounts do you have?
> What do you want to do?
> 
> andre

Thanks Andre
Pete has answered my question. I've altered the sig block to include Evo
version and OS, to aid future questions to the list
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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Han Pilmeyer
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

> I'd close it as WONTFIX anyway. For follow-up insults please refer to
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308829 :-P
> 
> > Have I gone crazy or did a previous revision have that feature?
> 
> You are right. In version 2.1/2.2 the context menu got cleaned up, as
> it
> has 21 entries that didn't let anybody find anything anymore.
> You have a good memory. 


Could it perhaps be made context sensitive or would that not be a good
GUI practice?

For instance only offer "reply to list" if the message has a list,
"reply to all" if the message has multiple recipients, "undelete" if the
message has been marked for delete, etc.

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 12:13 +0100, Han Pilmeyer wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > I'd close it as WONTFIX anyway. For follow-up insults please refer
> > to
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308829 :-P
> > > Have I gone crazy or did a previous revision have that feature?
> > You are right. In version 2.1/2.2 the context menu got cleaned up,
> > as it
> > has 21 entries that didn't let anybody find anything anymore.
> > You have a good memory. 
> Could it perhaps be made context sensitive or would that not be a good
> GUI practice?

It already is.

> For instance only offer "reply to list" if the message has a list,
> "reply to all" if the message has multiple recipients, "undelete" if
> the message has been marked for delete, etc.

Delete / Undelete show up in a context sensitive manner.

It not being there is ok with me [Ctrl-L!]; context-menus easily bloat.

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:10 +, Richard wrote: 
> Thanks Andre
> Pete has answered my question. I've altered the sig block to include Evo
> version and OS, to aid future questions to the list

Adding the Evo version to your sig is redundant, given that the info is
already in your mail headers if anyone wants to look. And if you use
this version to ask a question about a different version (say a later
one which isn't working for you), it's still not useful. Plus many
people don't even read sigs (I usually can't be bothered).

What I'm saying is that if in future you ask an Evo question on the
list, it would still be a good idea to mention the version in the body
of the message.

Cheers

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Pete Biggs

> That's a real shame, as Using POP3 I hold about 1.5 GB of mail, which if
> I filter on relative age I stop the mail file expanding to much by
> either deleting or moving to an archive.

So if it's POP then all the mail you are interested in is on your local
machine - i.e. your mail is in the INBOX in "On This Computer"


> I've got the filtering of incoming mail sorted, the filtering has really
> improve since the last time I looked at Evo. But If at sometime in the
> future a plugin to allow automatic filtering of existing read mail it
> would be a nice feature.
> 

One option is to look at Search Folders - setup two search folders of
"Received date" "is before" "2 weeks ago" and "is after" "2 weeks ago".
That way all your most recent mail is in one folder and the older stuff
is in another folder. If you want to archive your older stuff just
highlight everything in the older folder and move the messages to a
different (real) folder.

Remember that search folders are virtual - they don't exist in reality
and all your mail is still in your Inbox until it is moved elsewhere -
the search folders are just a window onto a subset of the mail.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Richard
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 07:07 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:10 +, Richard wrote: 
> > Thanks Andre
> > Pete has answered my question. I've altered the sig block to include Evo
> > version and OS, to aid future questions to the list
> 
> Adding the Evo version to your sig is redundant, given that the info is
> already in your mail headers if anyone wants to look. And if you use
> this version to ask a question about a different version (say a later
> one which isn't working for you), it's still not useful. Plus many
> people don't even read sigs (I usually can't be bothered).
> 
> What I'm saying is that if in future you ask an Evo question on the
> list, it would still be a good idea to mention the version in the body
> of the message.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> poc
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OK poc all noted, I'll play around with the block again
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[Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Matthias Apitz


Hello,

I wanted to setup a filter in Evo which forwards incoming mail, based on
the senders addr, to some other account... and I'm surprised that there
is no action option for this, really?

Thanks

matthias
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[Evolution] Tasks in main window

2011-01-12 Thread Jeremy Nell
Not sure how to ask this, so follow me if you can.

In Gmail, the Tasks window sits in the main inbox window, which is
intuitive because I can see my tasks (to-do) while viewing my mail.  The
tasks are simplified, so I can read more by clicking on them, but there
is just enough for me to see and be reminded of things.

In Evolution, I have to actually click on Tasks to see my tasks, which
is fine, but not completely intuitive because I often forget to click to
see what tasks I have.

Is there a plugin / way to include a summary of my tasks in the main
Mail window, somewhere? 



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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Pete Biggs

> 
> I wanted to setup a filter in Evo which forwards incoming mail, based on
> the senders addr, to some other account... and I'm surprised that there
> is no action option for this, really?
> 

Err, yes there is, at the bottom of the Action list: "Forward to:".  If
your version of Evo doesn't have it (and I wouldn't know what it is
because not only don't you tell us, but you used Mutt to send the mail),
then you can use the "Pipe to program" option.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering

2011-01-12 Thread Richard
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:41 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > That's a real shame, as Using POP3 I hold about 1.5 GB of mail, which if
> > I filter on relative age I stop the mail file expanding to much by
> > either deleting or moving to an archive.
> 
> So if it's POP then all the mail you are interested in is on your local
> machine - i.e. your mail is in the INBOX in "On This Computer"
> 
That's correct Pete, and it's that mail I would like to filter on age
and probably delete.
I can do this manually by writing a filter rule, selecting all the mail
in the inbox and use apply filters, or search by age. It would be a
useful feature

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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, January 12, 2011 a las 11:58:29AM +, Pete Biggs 
escribió:

> Err, yes there is, at the bottom of the Action list: "Forward to:".  If
> your version of Evo doesn't have it (and I wouldn't know what it is
> because not only don't you tell us, but you used Mutt to send the mail),
> then you can use the "Pipe to program" option.

Sorry not to mention the version I'm using: 2.24.5. There is no
"Forward to:", but I will play around with piping it through sendmail;

I'm using Evo only for my business mails (because I have to), for
private and OpenSource stuff, I will stick with mutt and vi(1); this may
change when there is some vi-pluging for writing mail with Evo :-)

Thanks

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Han Pilmeyer
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 06:27 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

> Delete / Undelete show up in a context sensitive manner.
> 
> It not being there is ok with me [Ctrl-L!]; context-menus easily
> bloat. 


Good point. So perhaps then it would make sense to replace "Reply All"
with "Reply List" when the message is from a list?
And do not have a "Reply All" when there is only a single recipient for
the message.

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Re: [Evolution] Tasks in main window

2011-01-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:57 +0200, Jeremy Nell wrote:
> Not sure how to ask this, so follow me if you can.
> In Gmail, the Tasks window sits in the main inbox window, which is
> intuitive because I can see my tasks (to-do) while viewing my mail.
> The tasks are simplified, so I can read more by clicking on them, but
> there is just enough for me to see and be reminded of things.
> In Evolution, I have to actually click on Tasks to see my tasks, which
> is fine, but not completely intuitive because I often forget to click
> to see what tasks I have.

You see tasks and memos as side-bars in the Calendar view.

> Is there a plugin / way to include a summary of my tasks in the main
> Mail window, somewhere? 

Not that I'm aware of [I which I could get the same tasks, memos, and an
upcoming events sidebars though.  TB & Outlook do this.  Especially with
a wide screen.].



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Re: [Evolution] Feedback

2011-01-12 Thread Philippe LeCavalier

Quoting Pete Biggs :


On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:11 -0500, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:

On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 14:02 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote:
> I am a new evolution user on Ubuntu 10.10.  An initial observation: mail
> folders often show some unread when there are no unread. When I click to
> mark all unread as read, I get a dialog asking if I want subdirectories
> as well as current directory, then after all that, the folder still
> shows the same unread number.  Only a close/reopen seems to clear it.
>
> It is annoying that the dialog keeps requesting indication of subdirs or
> just current.  Couldn't/Shouldn't that be a preference option?
I mentioned this here a while back and couldn't get anyone to agree it
was annoying so I never filed a bug report on it...I knew I wouldn't
be the only one :)

Anyone else?


Didn't Matthew just say that this was fixed in 2.32?

Yes. Didn't my response precede his?


And it seems particularly illogical to highlight something as a bug and
then not report it - so what if you are the only person affected, it may
be symptomatic of an underlying more serious issue or it may just be an
edge case, but let the developers decide.
When the person receiving the bug tells you it's not important there's  
little purpose in filling said bug. ;) Ironically it got fixed  
nonetheless. Perhaps I misunderstood something at the time...dunno.


Phil
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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Philippe LeCavalier

Quoting Matthias Apitz :




Hello,

I wanted to setup a filter in Evo which forwards incoming mail, based on
the senders addr, to some other account... and I'm surprised that there
is no action option for this, really?

Thanks

matthias
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Mathias,

This is just my opinion but what you are referring to is beyond the  
scope of any MUA. If you use IMAP, look at the IMAPFilter project it  
does exactly what you want. Or look at what your mail host can offer  
you server-side.


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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, January 12, 2011 a las 07:04:15AM -0600, Philippe LeCavalier 
escribió:

> Quoting Matthias Apitz :
> 
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I wanted to setup a filter in Evo which forwards incoming mail, based on
> > the senders addr, to some other account... and I'm surprised that there
> > is no action option for this, really?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > matthias
> >
> Mathias,
> 
> This is just my opinion but what you are referring to is beyond the  
> scope of any MUA. If you use IMAP, look at the IMAPFilter project it  
> does exactly what you want. Or look at what your mail host can offer  
> you server-side.

In principle I agreed and in an normal open world I would use procmail for
this. But with Evo and in my concrete environment, I can't use IMAP,
only OWA and the Exchange connector, and have no direct access to the
Exchange server.

Thanks

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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:28 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Wednesday, January 12, 2011 a las 11:58:29AM +, Pete Biggs 
> escribió:
> 
> > Err, yes there is, at the bottom of the Action list: "Forward to:".  If
> > your version of Evo doesn't have it (and I wouldn't know what it is
> > because not only don't you tell us, but you used Mutt to send the mail),
> > then you can use the "Pipe to program" option.
> 
> Sorry not to mention the version I'm using: 2.24.5. There is no
> "Forward to:", but I will play around with piping it through sendmail;
> 
> I'm using Evo only for my business mails (because I have to), for
> private and OpenSource stuff, I will stick with mutt and vi(1); this may
> change when there is some vi-pluging for writing mail with Evo :-)

A composer hook has been mentioned as being "almost ready" for quite
some time now. In fact I think it may already exist in some distros, but
I can't remember what it's called.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:30 +0100, Han Pilmeyer wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 06:27 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > Delete / Undelete show up in a context sensitive manner.
> > 
> > It not being there is ok with me [Ctrl-L!]; context-menus easily
> > bloat. 
> 
> Good point. So perhaps then it would make sense to replace "Reply All"
> with "Reply List" when the message is from a list?
> And do not have a "Reply All" when there is only a single recipient
> for the message.

We've already had a long thread about this, leading to changes in 2.32.
If you're using an earlier version, update to 2.32 if possible.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 09:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:30 +0100, Han Pilmeyer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 06:27 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > Delete / Undelete show up in a context sensitive manner.
> > > 
> > > It not being there is ok with me [Ctrl-L!]; context-menus easily
> > > bloat. 
> > 
> > Good point. So perhaps then it would make sense to replace "Reply All"
> > with "Reply List" when the message is from a list?
> > And do not have a "Reply All" when there is only a single recipient
> > for the message.
> 
> We've already had a long thread about this, leading to changes in 2.32.
> If you're using an earlier version, update to 2.32 if possible.

Forgot the reference. It's at:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2010-July/msg00135.html

poc


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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Albert Wagner
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 22:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:03 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: 
> > It would be nice if the right click on a message menu contained a "reply
> > to list" option, as does the main Message menu.
> 
> Bugzilla.
> 
> poc
> 
Not a bug.  Just a preference.

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Albert Wagner
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2011, 23:41 -0500 schrieb Philippe LeCavalier:
> > On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 22:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > > On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:03 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: 
> > > > It would be nice if the right click on a message menu contained a "reply
> > > > to list" option, as does the main Message menu.
> > > 
> > > Bugzilla.
> 
> I'd close it as WONTFIX anyway. For follow-up insults please refer to
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308829 :-P
> 
> > Have I gone crazy or did a previous revision have that feature?
> 
> You are right. In version 2.1/2.2 the context menu got cleaned up, as it
> has 21 entries that didn't let anybody find anything anymore.
> You have a good memory.
> 
> andre
I'm in 2.30.3. The Message menu has 21, which includes "reply to list"
The context menu has 20 and does not include "reply to list". It looks
like removing the one most often used key on a mailing list was
considered "cleaned". 

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 07:53 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 22:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:03 -0600, Albert Wagner wrote: 
> > > It would be nice if the right click on a message menu contained a "reply
> > > to list" option, as does the main Message menu.
> > 
> > Bugzilla.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> Not a bug.  Just a preference.
> 

Bugzilla is where you file enhancement requests as well (there's no
point requesting enhancements on this mailing list - this list is
primarily for helping people)

P.

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Re: [Evolution] A suggested convenience feature

2011-01-12 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 12:13 +0100, Han Pilmeyer wrote:
> Could it perhaps be made context sensitive or would that not be a good
> GUI practice?
> 
> For instance only offer "reply to list" if the message has a list,
> "reply to all" if the message has multiple recipients, "undelete" if
> the message has been marked for delete, etc.

Well we did replace "Reply to All" in the toolbar with "Group Reply",
whose behavior is configurable wrt mailing lists.  Would make sense to
replace "Reply to All" with "Group Reply" in the message context menu as
well, for consistency.

But I would oppose any -additional- items in that menu.  It's bloated
enough as is.

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Reid Thompson

On 1/12/2011 8:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I'm using Evo only for my business mails (because I have to), for
>  private and OpenSource stuff, I will stick with mutt and vi(1); this may
>  change when there is some vi-pluging for writing mail with Evo:-)

A composer hook has been mentioned as being "almost ready" for quite
some time now. In fact I think it may already exist in some distros, but
I can't remember what it's called.

External editor
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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 08:50 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> On 1/12/2011 8:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >> I'm using Evo only for my business mails (because I have to), for
> >> >  private and OpenSource stuff, I will stick with mutt and vi(1); this may
> >> >  change when there is some vi-pluging for writing mail with Evo:-)
> > A composer hook has been mentioned as being "almost ready" for quite
> > some time now. In fact I think it may already exist in some distros, but
> > I can't remember what it's called.
> External editor

As I thought, not in Fedora.

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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 08:50 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> > On 1/12/2011 8:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >> I'm using Evo only for my business mails (because I have to), for
> > >> >  private and OpenSource stuff, I will stick with mutt and vi(1); this 
> > >> > may
> > >> >  change when there is some vi-pluging for writing mail with Evo:-)
> > > A composer hook has been mentioned as being "almost ready" for quite
> > > some time now. In fact I think it may already exist in some distros, but
> > > I can't remember what it's called.
> > External editor
> 
> As I thought, not in Fedora.
> 
> poc
> 

do you have build capability -- the plugin itself is not very big

$ ls -rlt
total 64
-rw-r--r-- 1 rthompso staff   816 Nov  3 07:30 
org-gnome-external-editor.error.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 rthompso staff   917 Nov  3 07:30 
org-gnome-external-editor.eplug.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 rthompso staff  2517 Nov  3 07:30 Makefile.am
-rw-r--r-- 1 rthompso staff 12335 Nov  3 07:30 external-editor.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 rthompso staff   995 Nov  3 07:30 
apps-evolution-external-editor.schemas.in
-rw-r--r-- 1 rthompso staff 31923 Jan 12 11:25 Makefile.in

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Re: [Evolution] filter && forwarding incoming mail

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:30 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 08:50 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> > > On 1/12/2011 8:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > >> I'm using Evo only for my business mails (because I have to),
> for
> > > >> >  private and OpenSource stuff, I will stick with mutt and
> vi(1); this may
> > > >> >  change when there is some vi-pluging for writing mail with
> Evo:-)
> > > > A composer hook has been mentioned as being "almost ready" for
> quite
> > > > some time now. In fact I think it may already exist in some
> distros, but
> > > > I can't remember what it's called.
> > > External editor
> >
> > As I thought, not in Fedora.
> >
> > poc
> >
> 
> do you have build capability -- the plugin itself is not very big
> 
I've built Evo in the past, though doing it in Fedora is much less
automated than for Ubuntu (thanks to Paul's Makefile). However I prefer
to use only yum repos to keep my system up to date where possible, and
this plugin is not a showstopper for me. I only mentioned it because
Matthias brought it up.

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[Evolution] Building evolution plugins separately (WAS: filter && forwarding incoming mail)

2011-01-12 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 14:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:30 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> > do you have build capability -- the plugin itself is not very big
> > 
> I've built Evo in the past, though doing it in Fedora is much less
> automated than for Ubuntu (thanks to Paul's Makefile). However I prefer
> to use only yum repos to keep my system up to date where possible, and
> this plugin is not a showstopper for me. I only mentioned it because
> Matthias brought it up.
> 
> poc
>
On a related note: Previously I asked about the external-editor plugin and was 
simply told it was part of 'experimental plugins', which google revealed simply 
to be a Debian/Ubuntu package. Prompted by this conversation, I continued 
searching I found out that all these experimental plugins are simply part of 
the evolution source itself.

I'm currently typing in vim using external editor (Evo 2.32.1), having modified 
my distro's evolution package to compile that as well.

So a quick question, would it be possible to compile the experimental plugins 
without having to ./configure -> make evolution itself? This would allow me to 
package them separately instead of having to package an entire 
evolution-with-plugins package which basically duplicates my distro's package.


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