Re: [Evolution] How do you install 2.29 on Ubuntu 9.10?

2009-12-11 Thread Pete Biggs

> 
> I would like to know how to offer this, my knowledge of Outlook and the
> business users needs, to the Evolution team on a regular basis.  Not just by
> putting a bug in Bugzilla.  Because technically, offering advice for new
> features is not a bug.  And of course, sometimes it takes multiple
> conversations and screenshots for someone else to understand what I'm trying
> to convey.

Bugzilla is not only used for bugs - there is a class of "bug" called a
"feature request" that allows you to request a feature or a usability
improvement.  But the bottom line is that you have to compete for very
limited developer time in order to implement new features - and that
competition is against bug fixes, backend performance improvements,
keeping up with other changes to the underlying GUI and so on.  There
has also recently on this list been some calls for a freeze on new
features in order to give time to try and squash some persistent bugs
and usability problems.

What I'm trying to get across is that your must-have show-stopper
Outlook look-a-like business orientated feature may not get implemented
on a time scale you think is suitable.  However, if it *is* something
that the community thinks is important, then you will get support for it
on the bugzilla ticket and there is more chance the developers will look
kindly on it.  Also, if it *is* something that is important, then there
is likely to already be a feature request for it and the best thing is
to add your voice to it there.

However a word of warning - requesting a feature because it's in Outlook
might be counter productive - Evolution is *not* an Outlook clone, it
doesn't pretend to be one.  This is not MS bashing,  it's not a
Thunderbird or kmail or whatever clone either.  

P.

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Re: [Evolution] SMTP one connectiom

2009-12-11 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:51 +0300, andrew wrote:
> Is there any way to force Evolution making only one connection at a
> time?

Hi,
I'm sorry, there isn't any such option.

I think there is a bugreport about that at http://bugzilla.gnome.org ,
but I'm not sure.
Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] "File CC" option

2009-12-11 Thread Anderson Luiz Perazzoli
Dear friends,

I am a Thunderbird user and decided to give Evolution a try.

I think I could adopt Evolution for my daily use if I can find a way
to be able to choose, when typing a new message, which folder the
message shall be saved to (instead of the default 'Sent' folder). In
Thunderbird I accomplish this by using the excellent "TB Change From
and Fcc on Compose" plugin.

Does Evolution (or a plugin for it) offer this functionality? I have
searched extensively but found nothing.

Thanks for your help!

Anderson
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Re: [Evolution] How do you install 2.29 on Ubuntu 9.10?

2009-12-11 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/12/11 Bryan Karlan :

[snip]

> I'm learning all this and have found Linux to be a great alternative, but
> still having some small issues with it.  Such as display drivers and
> Homegroup access.  However, I feel these will be resolved, especially as
> people who are new to Linux bring up issues that experienced users of Linux
> aren't familiar with.  Such as migration issues.

Yes, absolutely. As time goes by, you also get used to systems, and loose
insight in what newbies might find confusing. Getting feedback from new users
is very important. However, we're beginning to move very far away from the
original topic, and this probably isn't a very good place for discussing issues
with Ubuntu or GNU+Linux in general. Evolution isn't really concerned with
Linux at all. You can run Evolution on many different operating systems,
and though the software Evolution is part of Ubuntu, the development of it
is completely separate. This is also something that takes a little time getting
used to when you're new to free software.

> All I wanted to do in this email was to find a way to get some new features
> out of Evolution that would make it a full fledged alternative for Outlook
> for me and many other people who depend on the program for their livelihood.

Bugzilla is called a bug tracker, but really, it is an _issue_
tracker. This includes
feature requests. Storing those things in an issue tracker makes it easier
to keep track of. It's customary to first search bugzilla for a
similar issue, and
if you don't find one, file one. When you've done that, you can send a message
to the mailinglists and invite the community to discuss it. You include the
link, and those who are interested can help refine the ideas and work on
implementing it.

> I've always wanted to have server access but found it both expensive and
> that it didn't serve my needs because it doesn't sync Journaling, which I
> use extensively.  I've tried the online CRM's but have found them overly
> complicated, Salesforce, PlanPlusonline, etc... and hard to sync to Outlook
> successfully.  In fact, let's be honest, you can't even rely on Windows
> Mobile Sync to work consistently, in fact it will often corrupt the pst file
> in bizarre ways that nobody at Microsoft has ever heard of, (yeah right).

Now you're being very vague. You want "server access". What kind of
server? There are many different kinds of servers for storing contacts,
calendar entries, notes, tasks, etc. There are also many different
implementations of each kind of server. Evolution supports standard
protocols for this, like LDAP for contacts, CalDAV for calendars, tasks
and memos, and of course standard protocols for mail. You can setup
the different servers your self, or you can get complete solutions that
handles all the protocols behind the scene.

You're interested in CRM, you say, but CRM is _what_ you do, not _how_
you do it. Again, there are many solutions for it that's available as free
software, and is compatible with Evolution.
[snip]

> I thought that I could run the newer version of Evolution and see what they
> have done.  I'm finding out through this thread that that is not really an
> option and that it is best that I wait for the next distro to contain the
> next version of Evolution.  That being said, I would like to explain to
> someone who cares what a very strong user of Outlook can contribute to the
> discussions about what should be available on the new version.  I believe
> that I could contribute greatly to the discussion and offer some great
> suggestions for the next version despite the fact that I can't see it.

You can see it. Ubuntu 10.04 is in alpha 1. You can download the image and
run it in a live session, or install it in a virtual machine if you
want to. You
_can_ also install it in your current setup, but it's a bit
complicated. I'm very
curious about the next version myself, as there have been some rather
significant in this version. I'll download the alpha 1 image, install it in a VM
and watch as it matures.

> I would like to know how to offer this, my knowledge of Outlook and the
> business users needs, to the Evolution team on a regular basis.  Not just by
> putting a bug in Bugzilla.  Because technically, offering advice for new
> features is not a bug.  And of course, sometimes it takes multiple
> conversations and screenshots for someone else to understand what I'm trying
> to convey.

Great. You'll learn how to contribute by observing how things are done in the
free software community. Again, feature requests etc, have their home on
bugzilla, and each issue has their own comment thread. More general
discussions probably belong to the mailinglist with a link to the issue on
bugzilla.

Many of us use Evolution the way you describe and many have years of
experience. This doesn't mean we always agree though. There is no single
best way of doing office work. It depends on personal preference, what you
do and many other things.

As I said b

[Evolution] How to connect to exchange 2007 server

2009-12-11 Thread Jaap A. Haitsma
Hi,

At my job we have an exchange 2007 server. How do I need to set it to
be able to connect from home over the internet with evolution mapi
plugin. On Windows we use outlook anywhere to do this. I've tried
reusing the settings I use for that with Evolution MAPI but it doesn't
work?

Are there settings on the exchange server that we need to change?

Thanks

Jaap
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[Evolution] No warning for message with no recipient in To: line

2009-12-11 Thread Chris
Shouldn't there be some kind of warning when trying to send an email
with nothing in the To: line? I don't see one here. Now when trying to
send one with only a recipient on the Cc or Bcc line I get a warning
about nothing being on the To line but nothing when all three are blank.
Should this be reported as an Evo bug?
 

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Re: [Evolution] No warning for message with no recipient in To: line

2009-12-11 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 19:47 -0600, Chris wrote:
> Shouldn't there be some kind of warning when trying to send an email
> with nothing in the To: line? I don't see one here. Now when trying to
> send one with only a recipient on the Cc or Bcc line I get a warning
> about nothing being on the To line but nothing when all three are blank.
> Should this be reported as an Evo bug?
>  
Yes, I believe it should, I've made that mistake before as well.

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Re: [Evolution] "File CC" option

2009-12-11 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:37 -0200, Anderson Luiz Perazzoli wrote:
> I am a Thunderbird user and decided to give Evolution a try.
> 
> I think I could adopt Evolution for my daily use if I can find a way
> to be able to choose, when typing a new message, which folder the
> message shall be saved to (instead of the default 'Sent' folder). In
> Thunderbird I accomplish this by using the excellent "TB Change From
> and Fcc on Compose" plugin.
> 
> Does Evolution (or a plugin for it) offer this functionality? I have
> searched extensively but found nothing.

Not currently but I've been thinking about implementing this.  It would
be another "header" field in the composer window (beneath From, Subject,
To, etc.) and hidden by default, but I'm still thinking through what the
drop-down menu should look like.

No promises on an ETA.  It will be when I find time.

Matthew Barnes

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