Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start

[Tor Lillqvist]

> Help?

Not really. Unless somebody explicitly promises to offer support for
Evolution on Windows, you are more or less on your own;) If it doesn't
work for you, forget it, and stick to some other mail client. As the
current situation is. nobody is going to bother trying to figure out
the reason to random crashes. Sending log files like the one you
included in your mail to this list is pointless.

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[Evolution] wrong number of messages in local Sent folder

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

I was locking if I really have had sent a message an detected that it is
not visible in the local Sent folder while it is there when I check this
folder in the file system with:

$ mutt -R -f .evolution/mail/local/Sent

as well the number is wrong; mutt sees:

-%-Mutt: .evolution/mail/local/Sent [Msgs:1214 New:1214 173M]

while Evo only 1213 (see attachment);

What is this?

matthias

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Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start

[Glen Tupling]

I was told this was a list for both Linux AND  windows versions, so I am 
hoping I get better hints than this.  I have been using evolution for over a 
year now without a hitch, six months ago it became my sole email client.  I 
can't access any of my old emails and I need them.


Evolution version 2.26.2-2 running on Vista Ultimate SP 2  Message is 
Evolution.exe failed to start, windows will now close the application.  I 
get the error below in my event viewer, the bugbuddy will not run.  Just 
prior to receiving this error evolution would not show any messages, all 
folders were greyed out, I could send & receive messages but not view any.


If you want the log file from the event viewer I can post it.

Glen
- Original Message - 
From: "Tor Lillqvist" 

To: "Glen Tupling" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start



Help?


Not really. Unless somebody explicitly promises to offer support for
Evolution on Windows, you are more or less on your own;) If it doesn't
work for you, forget it, and stick to some other mail client. As the
current situation is. nobody is going to bother trying to figure out
the reason to random crashes. Sending log files like the one you
included in your mail to this list is pointless.

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Re: [Evolution] SMTP - How can I tell if a problem is Evo or in the ISP?

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:50 +0100, Steve T wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> I have been using Evo with various EMail accounts. Each account has
> it's own remote pop and smtp server (ie yahoo for personal stuff and
> my business accounts). All of this has been working fine until this
> afternoon. Now, the outbound mail (from one account) seems to sit in
> the outbox (although the sendmail 'display' shows 1 0f 1 messages
> being sent - the progress bar stays at 0) and after a while I get the
> attached message:
> Is this a problem with Evolution or a problem with my smtp provider?

Years ago one could set the environment variable "CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG";
and run evolution like "CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 evolution".  Then you'd
see the SMTP chatter on standard-out.  I assume that still works.

> Evolution 2.8.3 on FC6 

That is pretty old!

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Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 05:53 -0400, Glen Tupling wrote:
> I was told this was a list for both Linux AND  windows versions, so I am 
> hoping I get better hints than this.  I have been using evolution for over a 
> year now without a hitch, six months ago it became my sole email client.  I 
> can't access any of my old emails and I need them.

Is this the evolution from  or
?  
There seem to have been multiple ports over time.

> Evolution version 2.26.2-2 running on Vista Ultimate SP 2  Message is 
> Evolution.exe failed to start, windows will now close the application.  I 
> get the error below in my event viewer, the bugbuddy will not run.  Just 
> prior to receiving this error evolution would not show any messages, all 
> folders were greyed out, I could send & receive messages but not view any.
> If you want the log file from the event viewer I can post it.

I haven't had much luck with the Evos-for-Windows - I hope the upcoming
Bonobo, etc... free builds may be more portable.  But I don't know
anything.  It really might be more useful for you to contact the people
who did the port or to post on the Evolution-hackers list as
Evo-on-Win32 isn't really mainstream.  But please let us know how it
goes.

> > Not really. Unless somebody explicitly promises to offer support for
> > Evolution on Windows, you are more or less on your own;) If it doesn't
> > work for you, forget it, and stick to some other mail client. As the
> > current situation is. nobody is going to bother trying to figure out
> > the reason to random crashes. Sending log files like the one you
> > included in your mail to this list is pointless.

Sadly, for Windows user's there are few, if any, clients with the
capabilities of Evolution.  Evolution is far more than a mail client -
and other clients [like ThunderBird] fall very short
in the other functionality [seriously: what crack head developed TB's
address book?  Gag!].

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Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start

[Tor Lillqvist]

> I haven't had much luck with the Evos-for-Windows - I hope the upcoming
> Bonobo, etc... free builds may be more portable.

Maybe, maybe not. Firstly, there needs to be a stable dbus port to
Windows. Currently the dbus situation on Windows is a bit unclear.
There are several competing ports, with unclear and perhaps
conflicting goals and policies regarding upstreaming etc. (Hopefully I
am just pessimistic here, so sorry if you think this sounds like FUD.)

Secondly somebody needs to keep the Evolution et al code buildable and
working on Windows, and somebody (else?) needs to create installers
etc. (Well, me and Fridrich probably will keep trying, in our copious
spare time... Sadly I must admit I haven't for instance built
Evolution myself in half a year at least.)

> It really might be more useful for you to contact the people
> who did the port

We are listening;)

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Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start

[Glen Tupling]

This is the version from dipconsultants

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Tauno Williams" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start



On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 05:53 -0400, Glen Tupling wrote:

I was told this was a list for both Linux AND  windows versions, so I am
hoping I get better hints than this.  I have been using evolution for 
over a
year now without a hitch, six months ago it became my sole email client. 
I

can't access any of my old emails and I need them.


Is this the evolution from  or
? 
There seem to have been multiple ports over time.



Evolution version 2.26.2-2 running on Vista Ultimate SP 2  Message is
Evolution.exe failed to start, windows will now close the application.  I
get the error below in my event viewer, the bugbuddy will not run.  Just
prior to receiving this error evolution would not show any messages, all
folders were greyed out, I could send & receive messages but not view 
any.

If you want the log file from the event viewer I can post it.


I haven't had much luck with the Evos-for-Windows - I hope the upcoming
Bonobo, etc... free builds may be more portable.  But I don't know
anything.  It really might be more useful for you to contact the people
who did the port or to post on the Evolution-hackers list as
Evo-on-Win32 isn't really mainstream.  But please let us know how it
goes.


> Not really. Unless somebody explicitly promises to offer support for
> Evolution on Windows, you are more or less on your own;) If it doesn't
> work for you, forget it, and stick to some other mail client. As the
> current situation is. nobody is going to bother trying to figure out
> the reason to random crashes. Sending log files like the one you
> included in your mail to this list is pointless.


Sadly, for Windows user's there are few, if any, clients with the
capabilities of Evolution.  Evolution is far more than a mail client -
and other clients [like ThunderBird] fall very short
in the other functionality [seriously: what crack head developed TB's
address book?  Gag!].

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Re: [Evolution] SMTP - How can I tell if a problem is Evo or in the ISP?

[Steve T]

Adam, 
Thanks for the reply. The issue turned out to be nothing to do with
Evolution. As it turned out my router was faulty (not completely dead) -
so I was getting some very odd occurrences, one of which was the
inability to send mail (although receiving was ok).


On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 06:32 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:50 +0100, Steve T wrote:
> > Good afternoon.
> > I have been using Evo with various EMail accounts. Each account has
> > it's own remote pop and smtp server (ie yahoo for personal stuff and
> > my business accounts). All of this has been working fine until this
> > afternoon. Now, the outbound mail (from one account) seems to sit in
> > the outbox (although the sendmail 'display' shows 1 0f 1 messages
> > being sent - the progress bar stays at 0) and after a while I get the
> > attached message:
> > Is this a problem with Evolution or a problem with my smtp provider?
> 
> Years ago one could set the environment variable "CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG";
> and run evolution like "CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 evolution".  Then you'd
> see the SMTP chatter on standard-out.  I assume that still works.
> 
> > Evolution 2.8.3 on FC6 
> 
> That is pretty old!
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Re: [Evolution] SMTP - How can I tell if a problem is Evo or in the ISP?

[Steve T]

Matthias,
Thanks for the reply.
The problem was the router as it happened. The CAMEL_ environment
variable also works (see other reply) to get 'debug' out.


On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 08:18 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:

> El día Tuesday, September 08, 2009 a las 05:50:26PM +0100, Steve T escribió:
> 
> > Good afternoon.
> > I have been using Evo with various EMail accounts. Each account has it's
> > own remote pop and smtp server (ie yahoo for personal stuff and my
> > business accounts). All of this has been working fine until this
> > afternoon. Now, the outbound mail (from one account) seems to sit in the
> > outbox (although the sendmail 'display' shows 1 0f 1 messages being sent
> > - the progress bar stays at 0) and after a while I get the attached
> > message:
> > 
> > 
> > Is this a problem with Evolution or a problem with my smtp provider?
> > 
> > Evolution 2.8.3 on FC6
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Just watch as root with tcpdump the outbound SMTP traffic, like
> 
> # tcpdump -Xx -n host XXX and port 25
> 
> where XXX is the IP addr of your SMTP server. Concerning -Xx, check the
> man page of FC6, I'm using FreeBSD and may be in FC6 the flags to
> produce human readable output are different.
> 
> May be there is even a debug flag or environment variable to log the
> SMTP traffic by Evo itself? But the above will work in any case.
> 
> HIH
> 
>   matthias
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Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to start

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 13:55 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
> > I haven't had much luck with the Evos-for-Windows - I hope the upcoming
> > Bonobo, etc... free builds may be more portable.
> Maybe, maybe not. Firstly, there needs to be a stable dbus port to
> Windows. Currently the dbus situation on Windows is a bit unclear.
> There are several competing ports, with unclear and perhaps
> conflicting goals and policies regarding upstreaming etc. (Hopefully I
> am just pessimistic here, so sorry if you think this sounds like FUD.)

I don't think it is FUD. :)  I've been a UNIX admin for almost two
decades - pessimism is my middle name.  I'm aware of the D-Bus issue as
I develop .NET (Mono) apps... and there is no D-Bus on Win32. :(

Porting non-trivial apps across platforms is ... non-trivial!

> Secondly somebody needs to keep the Evolution et al code buildable and
> working on Windows, and somebody (else?) needs to create installers
> etc. (Well, me and Fridrich probably will keep trying, in our copious
> spare time... Sadly I must admit I haven't for instance built
> Evolution myself in half a year at least.)

Understood.  

> > It really might be more useful for you to contact the people
> > who did the port
> We are listening;)

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[C de-Avillez]

On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 09:12 -0400, Joshua Tarplin wrote:
> Please unsubscribe me

Please oversubscribe yourself. At the bottom of all emails sent by the
mailing list you will find a link:

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Go there, and unsubscribe yourself.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashes frequently

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 21:23 -0700, David L wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:26 AM, David L wrote:
> 
> > evolution crashes for me all the time.  I send the bug buddy reports
> > but they seem to go into a black hole recently in fedora... I get links
> > to some gnome bug page that doesn't exist.
> 
> For example, I just tried to report my semi-daily evolution crash
> and got this link:
> http://crash.gnome.org/report/index/48dac56a-9dc0-11de-ac45-0007e9333148?date=2009-09-10-04
> 
> When I click on this link, I get this message:
> 
> Service Temporarily Unavailable
> 
> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to
> maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

Servers sometimes go offline. That's life. If it happens frequently then
yes, there's a problem.

> It doesn't inspire confidence the somebody is looking at all
> the bug reports I send in.  I noticed fedora12 will have a
> new bug reporting feature:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ABRTF12
> 
> Maybe that will work better.?  In the mean time, am I just
> wasting my time reviewing the crash details and reporting
> evolution bugs using bug buddy?

Presumably that will report to the Fedora Bugzilla rather than the Gnome
one. That's not a problem in itself (if it's not a specific Fedora
problem it will eventually be pushed upstream).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] SMTP and VFOLDERS (Two Separate Issues)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 21:15 +0100, Steve Tucknott wrote:
> Secondly, all the VFOLDERS that I have have suddenly been duplicated
> on the screen.

Didn't you ask that exact same question yesterday, and didn't I attempt
to answer it, and didn't you reply to the answer? If not, why are you
asking it again without so much as an acknowledgment ("I tried this but
it didn't work, here's some more information ...")?

poc

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Re: [Evolution] SMTP and VFOLDERS (Two Separate Issues)

[Steve T]

Patrick,
Yep - these are the duplicates that I mentioned yesterday (I had two
problems SMTP issue and VFolders - the SMTP issue came first so I tried
to raiose that and the mails didn't go, then later after closing Evo and
restarting it I got the duplicated VFolders - all in all a bad day).
They just seem to have been delayed - I tried a few different email
accounts as I first thought it was down to the SMTP connection I was
using. Apologies for the hassle.


Apologies for the hassle.On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 09:19 -0430, Patrick
O'Callaghan wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 21:15 +0100, Steve Tucknott wrote:
> > Secondly, all the VFOLDERS that I have have suddenly been duplicated
> > on the screen.
> 
> Didn't you ask that exact same question yesterday, and didn't I attempt
> to answer it, and didn't you reply to the answer? If not, why are you
> asking it again without so much as an acknowledgment ("I tried this but
> it didn't work, here's some more information ...")?
> 
> poc
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashes frequently

[David L]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 21:23 -0700, David L wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:26 AM, David L wrote:
>> 
>> > evolution crashes for me all the time.  I send the bug buddy reports
>> > but they seem to go into a black hole recently in fedora... I get links
>> > to some gnome bug page that doesn't exist.
>>
>> For example, I just tried to report my semi-daily evolution crash
>> and got this link:
>> http://crash.gnome.org/report/index/48dac56a-9dc0-11de-ac45-0007e9333148?date=2009-09-10-04
>>
>> When I click on this link, I get this message:
>>
>> Service Temporarily Unavailable
>>
>> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to
>> maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
>
> Servers sometimes go offline. That's life. If it happens frequently then
> yes, there's a problem.

Just searched this list archives and found this:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2009-March/msg00028.html

where they said this:

"That's Bug Buddy sending crash reports to crash.gnome.org, a service
that doesn't work and never has, and apparently is down now.  It
continues to be a pretty embarrassing situation for GNOME. "

It has been my experience that his server has usually (always?) been
offline for most of this year.  I suspect that the dozens of crash reports
I've sent using this mechanism have gone nowhere.


David
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashes frequently

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 07:27 -0700, David L wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 21:23 -0700, David L wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:26 AM, David L wrote:
> >> 
> >> > evolution crashes for me all the time.  I send the bug buddy reports
> >> > but they seem to go into a black hole recently in fedora... I get links
> >> > to some gnome bug page that doesn't exist.
> >>
> >> For example, I just tried to report my semi-daily evolution crash
> >> and got this link:
> >> http://crash.gnome.org/report/index/48dac56a-9dc0-11de-ac45-0007e9333148?date=2009-09-10-04
> >>
> >> When I click on this link, I get this message:
> >>
> >> Service Temporarily Unavailable
> >>
> >> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to
> >> maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
> >
> > Servers sometimes go offline. That's life. If it happens frequently then
> > yes, there's a problem.
> 
> Just searched this list archives and found this:
> 
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2009-March/msg00028.html
> 
> where they said this:
> 
> "That's Bug Buddy sending crash reports to crash.gnome.org, a service
> that doesn't work and never has, and apparently is down now.  It
> continues to be a pretty embarrassing situation for GNOME. "
> 
> It has been my experience that his server has usually (always?) been
> offline for most of this year.  I suspect that the dozens of crash reports
> I've sent using this mechanism have gone nowhere.

Fair enough. I don't think I've ever used Bug Buddy (or at least not in
a very long time). I just send reports to http://bugzilla.gnome.org.

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Re: [Evolution] SMTP and VFOLDERS (Two Separate Issues)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:08 +0100, Steve T wrote:
> Patrick,
> Yep - these are the duplicates that I mentioned yesterday (I had two
> problems SMTP issue and VFolders - the SMTP issue came first so I
> tried to raiose that and the mails didn't go, then later after closing
> Evo and restarting it I got the duplicated VFolders - all in all a bad
> day). They just seem to have been delayed - I tried a few different
> email accounts as I first thought it was down to the SMTP connection I
> was using. Apologies for the hassle.

But the two emails are not a duplicates of each other. The content is
substantially the same, but it's not the same message and hence cannot
have been re-delivered through some mailsystem error.

Never mind.

poc

PS BTW, please don't top-post on this list. It annoys a lot of people
and makes threads harder to read.

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[Evolution] Expression syntax for advanced contact search

[Sean Carlos]

I'd like to find all of my contacts with certain "home country" and / or 
"business country" values.


The only way to do this seems to be to use the Advanced Search feature 
which supports a user entered expression (not all data fields are 
exposed through the table or card views, is there a way around this?).


Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any documentation which lists field 
names... any ideas?  A sample example would be great too!


My current alternative is to export the data to OpenOffice but that 
makes data updating rather cumbersome.


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