[Evolution] backup the specific folder

2009-04-29 Thread Muhammad Sharfuddin
Evolution 2.6

I just want to take backup of "Inbox" and "Sent" 

should I also backup .cmeta, .ev-summary,

ev-summary-meta, .ibex.index, .ibex.index.data ?

inside /root/.evolution/mail/local/

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  8820553 Apr 29 11:28 Inbox
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  195 Apr 29 15:00 Inbox.cmeta
-rw--- 1 root root  757 Apr 29 11:28 Inbox.ev-summary
-rw--- 1 root root  273 Apr 29 11:28 Inbox.ev-summary-meta
-rw--- 1 root root    17408 Apr 29 11:26 Inbox.ibex.index
-rw--- 1 root root 5628 Apr 29 11:26 Inbox.ibex.index.data
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  504 Apr 28 17:26 Inbox.sbd/

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8603 Apr 29 13:27 Sent
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   13 Apr 29 13:41 Sent.cmeta
-rw--- 1 root root  416 Apr 29 13:27 Sent.ev-summary
-rw--- 1 root root   93 Apr 29 13:27 Sent.ev-summary-meta
-rw--- 1 root root    18432 Apr 29 13:25 Sent.ibex.index
-rw--- 1 root root 5864 Apr 29 13:25 Sent.ibex.index.data
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1984 Apr 29 13:28 Sent.sbd/

Regards





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Re: [Evolution] "MigrateEvolutionToNewComputer" did not work

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:35 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> So all the above I did, and Evolution is not opening on the new
> computer. I should also state that Evolution was never used or opened
> on the new computer prior to transferring over the above directories.
> What went wrong, and what do I need to do to get Evo to open???

Run Evo from a command line and see what the messages say.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] backup the specific folder

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 02:27 -0700, Muhammad Sharfuddin wrote:
> Evolution 2.6
> 
> I just want to take backup of "Inbox" and "Sent" 
> 
> should I also backup .cmeta, .ev-summary,
> ev-summary-meta, .ibex.index, .ibex.index.data ?
> 
> inside /root/.evolution/mail/local/
> 
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  8820553 Apr 29 11:28 Inbox
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  195 Apr 29 15:00 Inbox.cmeta
> -rw--- 1 root root  757 Apr 29 11:28 Inbox.ev-summary
> -rw--- 1 root root  273 Apr 29 11:28 Inbox.ev-summary-meta
> -rw--- 1 root root17408 Apr 29 11:26 Inbox.ibex.index
> -rw--- 1 root root 5628 Apr 29 11:26 Inbox.ibex.index.data
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  504 Apr 28 17:26 Inbox.sbd/
> 
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8603 Apr 29 13:27 Sent
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   13 Apr 29 13:41 Sent.cmeta
> -rw--- 1 root root  416 Apr 29 13:27 Sent.ev-summary
> -rw--- 1 root root   93 Apr 29 13:27 Sent.ev-summary-meta
> -rw--- 1 root root18432 Apr 29 13:25 Sent.ibex.index
> -rw--- 1 root root 5864 Apr 29 13:25 Sent.ibex.index.data
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1984 Apr 29 13:28 Sent.sbd/
> 
> Regards
> 
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If you don't, Evo will just recreate them if you ever have to restore
from the backup, but they don't take up much space so it's your
decision.

poc

PS *Please* don't post HTML-formatted mail to this list. It's very
difficult to edit the reply properly (which is why I ended up quoting
your entire message above).

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Re: [Evolution] (no subject)

2009-04-29 Thread Dinbandhu
Patrick,

-Original Message-
>From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
>Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM
>To: evolution-list@gnome.org
>Subject: Re: [Evolution] "MigrateEvolutionToNewComputer" did not work
>
>On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:35 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
>> So all the above I did, and Evolution is not opening on the new
>> computer. I should also state that Evolution was never used or opened
>> on the new computer prior to transferring over the above directories.
>> What went wrong, and what do I need to do to get Evo to open???
>
>Run Evo from a command line and see what the messages say.

Here is the output:

swa...@ubuntu:~$ evolution

(evolution:27765): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL 
parameter.

GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.18.2/glib/gmem.c:136: failed to allocate 
31740376080 bytes
aborting...
Aborted
swa...@ubuntu:~$ 

Please let me know.
Thanks,
Swarup
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[Evolution] preventing ctrl-backspace from putting text into the clipboard

2009-04-29 Thread Matt LeClair
I'm running Ubuntu Hardy with Evolution 2.22.3.1

I use ctrl-backspace to delete a word preceding my cursor all the time
when composing messages in gnome. However, I've noticed that the
behavior of this shortcut also cuts that text and puts it in the
clipboard. Applications such as openoffice or gedit, however, merely
delete the word and leave the clipboard untouched. I've used tools such
as glipper or parcellite to record clipboard history, but it's still
annoying to track back through it to find the string I want that I
literally cut using ctrl-x.

I'm not trying to tell you that ctrl-backspace shouldn't put text in the
clipboard - I have no idea what people like. But I would like to remove
this functionality for myself because I find it very annoying.

I searched the mailing list and found that others have suggested looking
at ~/.gnome2/accels/evolution
or /usr/share/evolution/2.22/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml

Does anyone know exactly how I would disable the cut functionality of
the ctrl-backspace shortcut in Evolution running under Ubuntu 8.04?

thank you very much,

Matt

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Re: [Evolution] (no subject)

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 10:05 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> Patrick,
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
> >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM
> >To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> >Subject: Re: [Evolution] "MigrateEvolutionToNewComputer" did not work
> >
> >On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:35 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> >> So all the above I did, and Evolution is not opening on the new
> >> computer. I should also state that Evolution was never used or opened
> >> on the new computer prior to transferring over the above directories.
> >> What went wrong, and what do I need to do to get Evo to open???
> >
> >Run Evo from a command line and see what the messages say.
> 
> Here is the output:
> 
> swa...@ubuntu:~$ evolution
> 
> (evolution:27765): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL 
> parameter.
> 
> GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.18.2/glib/gmem.c:136: failed to 
> allocate 31740376080 bytes
> aborting...
> Aborted

Looks like a bug (that's a ridiculously large number to be allocating).
You need to report this to Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.gnome.org). Post
the BZ number here so other people can add to it if they want.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] (no subject)

2009-04-29 Thread Dinbandhu
-Original Message-
>From: Srinivasa Ragavan 
>Sent: Apr 29, 2009 11:31 AM
>To: Dinbandhu 
>Subject: Re: [Evolution] (no subject)
>
>On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 10:05 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
>> Patrick,
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> >From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
>> >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM
>> >To: evolution-list@gnome.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Evolution] "MigrateEvolutionToNewComputer" did not work
>> >
>> >On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:35 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
>> >> So all the above I did, and Evolution is not opening on the new
>> >> computer. I should also state that Evolution was never used or opened
>> >> on the new computer prior to transferring over the above directories.
>> >> What went wrong, and what do I need to do to get Evo to open???
>> >
>> >Run Evo from a command line and see what the messages say.
>> 
>> Here is the output:
>> 
>> swa...@ubuntu:~$ evolution
>> 
>> (evolution:27765): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL 
>> parameter.
>> 
>> GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.18.2/glib/gmem.c:136: failed to 
>> allocate 31740376080 bytes
>> aborting...
>> Aborted
>> swa...@ubuntu:~$ 
>
>Are you moving from a 32bit to 64bit or vice-versa?

Yes, I am moving from 32bit to 64bit. My original computer was 32 bit, as was 
the interim computer I transfered evolution successfully to last week. But my 
new computer, where I am getting this problem with evo not opening, is 64bit.

Swarup
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Re: [Evolution] (no subject)

2009-04-29 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 12:34 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> -Original Message-
> >From: Srinivasa Ragavan 
> >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 11:31 AM
> >To: Dinbandhu 
> >Subject: Re: [Evolution] (no subject)
> >
> >On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 10:05 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> >> Patrick,
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> >From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
> >> >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM
> >> >To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> >> >Subject: Re: [Evolution] "MigrateEvolutionToNewComputer" did not work
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:35 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> >> >> So all the above I did, and Evolution is not opening on the new
> >> >> computer. I should also state that Evolution was never used or opened
> >> >> on the new computer prior to transferring over the above directories.
> >> >> What went wrong, and what do I need to do to get Evo to open???
> >> >
> >> >Run Evo from a command line and see what the messages say.
> >> 
> >> Here is the output:
> >> 
> >> swa...@ubuntu:~$ evolution
> >> 
> >> (evolution:27765): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with 
> >> NULL parameter.
> >> 
> >> GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.18.2/glib/gmem.c:136: failed to 
> >> allocate 31740376080 bytes
> >> aborting...
> >> Aborted
> >> swa...@ubuntu:~$ 
> >
> >Are you moving from a 32bit to 64bit or vice-versa?
> 
> Yes, I am moving from 32bit to 64bit. My original computer was 32 bit, as was 
> the interim computer I transfered evolution successfully to last week. But my 
> new computer, where I am getting this problem with evo not opening, is 64bit.
> 
This is a known problem, in the way old data was written by version
prior to Evolution 2.24. The only way you can migrate is remove or
move .summary and/or .ev-summary files from your .evolution/mail/. This
would let Evolution do auto-migration, instead of migrating from the
summary files. If you have IMAP or other remote accounts, it downloads
summary from the server. export FILTER_RECENT=1 if you have filters to
archive mails from remote, servers, as it might download old mails and
you don't want to re-archive them.

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Re: [Evolution] (no subject)

2009-04-29 Thread Dinbandhu
-Original Message-
>From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
>Sent: Apr 29, 2009 11:09 AM
>To: Dinbandhu 
>Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org
>Subject: Re: [Evolution]
>
>On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 10:05 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
>> Patrick,
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> >From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
>> >Sent: Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM
>> >To: evolution-list@gnome.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Evolution] "MigrateEvolutionToNewComputer" did not work
>> >
>> >On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:35 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
>> >> So all the above I did, and Evolution is not opening on the new
>> >> computer. I should also state that Evolution was never used or opened
>> >> on the new computer prior to transferring over the above directories.
>> >> What went wrong, and what do I need to do to get Evo to open???
>> >
>> >Run Evo from a command line and see what the messages say.
>> 
>> Here is the output:
>> 
>> swa...@ubuntu:~$ evolution
>> 
>> (evolution:27765): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL 
>> parameter.
>> 
>> GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.18.2/glib/gmem.c:136: failed to 
>> allocate 31740376080 bytes
>> aborting...
>> Aborted
>
>Looks like a bug (that's a ridiculously large number to be allocating).
>You need to report this to Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.gnome.org). Post
>the BZ number here so other people can add to it if they want.

But if the procedure works on other computers, then why would we think there is 
a bug involved? i.e. if it were something systemic, then wouldn't we expect 
many people to be affected? This OS is 8.10, and so quite established. I am not 
using Jaunty.  Could it be something that happens when one tries to move from a 
32bit to a 64bit system?

Thanks,
Swarup
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Re: [Evolution] Error refreshing folder

2009-04-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 19:53 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 19:19 +0200, Svante R Signell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:44 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:17 +0200, Svante R Signell wrote:
> > > > The problem is not at the server end. Using evolution on another box,
> > > > like this box or the webmail alternative all is OK. Which files to
> > > > remove/move away?
> > > > .evolution/mail/imap/.../folders/INBOX/??
> > > 

> > > If you have a folders.db file in ~/.evolution/mail/imap/
> > > then yours is a recent version of Evo. Try just moving it aside ("mv
> > > folders.db folders.db.backup"). Do this with Evo completely stopped of
> > > course ("evolution --force-shutdown"), then restart Evo and see what
> > > happens.
> > 
> > I have evo 2.26.1.1 installed so there is a database file present. I'll
> > try moving away folders.db when back home. 

Removing folders.db worked OK.

> Not sure about Calendar (I don't use it).
...
>  Looks like something left behind by
> Thunderbird or another client (Mail.app?).

Yes, maybe this comes from the webmail setup or another Mail.app. After removing
 folders.db then all directories were recreated again. All is fine,
 thank you. I even saved some 70MB of disk space, how come??

/srs 

> poc
> 

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Re: [Evolution] (no subject)

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:09 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> But if the procedure works on other computers, then why would we think
> there is a bug involved?

Because the error message is from deep in a library routine and mentions
trying to allocate an absurd amount of memory. It *is* a bug. The
trigger for the bug may be in an external file, but it's still a bug for
Evo to collapse in this way. Apps are supposed to check their inputs and
behave sensibly, even if it's just to give the user a meaningful error
message.

>  i.e. if it were something systemic, then wouldn't we expect many
> people to be affected? This OS is 8.10, and so quite established. I am
> not using Jaunty.  Could it be something that happens when one tries
> to move from a 32bit to a 64bit system?

That appears to be the case. Something about incompatible file formats
between older and newer versions of Evo when the machine architecture
also changes. In other words, a bug.

poc

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[Evolution] migration strategies - Help!

2009-04-29 Thread bg
I presently run Fedora Core2 and Evo 1.4.6.  Yeah, I know :-)

I am about to sketch out a strategy for upgrading to (32-bit)
Ubuntu 8.10, which includes Evo 2.24.3, although what with
the rather aggressive nature of the synaptic package manager, 
I will doubtless be involuntarily upgraded to a slightly later
version within hours of installing.

I have cruised out through the Web and read any number of FAQs and docs.
It has given me the impression that Evo doesn't expect
anyone to upgrade Evo versions, because every migration
discussion I've seen refers to importing address books, folders,
folder rules, and existing messages, from just about any other
package out there *except* Evo. In playing with the trial installation
on another box, I've verified that Evo doesn't recognize
importing of those elements from previous Evo versions.

This seems just a trifle odd :-)

Obviously I am missing something. I need to pursue this before I
launch the upgrade, because I have a large investment of time in
all of the mentioned elements, and have no desire to have to recreate
them manually from scratch.

I am confident that there is a way for me to preserve my Evo 1.4.6
Contacts, Folders & Filters, and the thousands of existing messages
hanging around in those folders, and subsequently pass all of that
data to my new Evo 2.24.3 (or whatever synaptic has it up to by then).
But I cannot find documentation which demonstrates how to accomplish
this.

Can anyone point me to an appropriate resource?

Thanks,

Brewster Gillett

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Re: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help!

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 19:28 -0700, bg wrote:
> I presently run Fedora Core2 and Evo 1.4.6.  Yeah, I know :-)
> 
> I am about to sketch out a strategy for upgrading to (32-bit)
> Ubuntu 8.10, which includes Evo 2.24.3, although what with
> the rather aggressive nature of the synaptic package manager, 
> I will doubtless be involuntarily upgraded to a slightly later
> version within hours of installing.
> 
> I have cruised out through the Web and read any number of FAQs and docs.
> It has given me the impression that Evo doesn't expect
> anyone to upgrade Evo versions, because every migration
> discussion I've seen refers to importing address books, folders,
> folder rules, and existing messages, from just about any other
> package out there *except* Evo. In playing with the trial installation
> on another box, I've verified that Evo doesn't recognize
> importing of those elements from previous Evo versions.
> 
> This seems just a trifle odd :-)
> 
> Obviously I am missing something. I need to pursue this before I
> launch the upgrade, because I have a large investment of time in
> all of the mentioned elements, and have no desire to have to recreate
> them manually from scratch.
> 
> I am confident that there is a way for me to preserve my Evo 1.4.6
> Contacts, Folders & Filters, and the thousands of existing messages
> hanging around in those folders, and subsequently pass all of that
> data to my new Evo 2.24.3 (or whatever synaptic has it up to by then).
> But I cannot find documentation which demonstrates how to accomplish
> this.
> 
> Can anyone point me to an appropriate resource?

Well a good starting point would be the archives of this list. Also,
check the FAQ, e.g.:

http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_transfer_all_my_Evolution_data_from_an_old_home_directory_to_a_new_home_directory.3F

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