Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

2009-03-28 Thread Chris G
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:41:23PM +, Art Alexion wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:17 -0400, Chris G wrote:
> > Yes, so do I!  I use xubuntu so I'm not fully Gnome but Gnome
> > applications such as Evolution are fully supported.
> 
> I would be most appreciative if someone can clear this up for me, as a
> co-worker also uses Evolution and other Gnome apps in Xfce.
> 
> It has always been my understanding that once one launches a Gnome app,
> like Evo or Nautilus, in Xfce that the gnome libs are loaded into
> memory, and you may as well be running full Gnome, resource wise.
> 
> Is that true?
> 
Yes, except that when you install something like Evolution in xfce it
only installs those libraries it actually needs.  So, depending on
which bits of Gnome you use, there will be more or less library
baggage brought in with it.

I don't run xfce because of its lower hardware requirements, I just
like the cleaner/leaner way it works.  My system is very new, has an
Intel Quad core processor and 8Gb of memory so the odd extra library
being loaded isn't really an issue.

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Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

2009-03-28 Thread Chris G
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Pavol Srna wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 14:17, Chris G  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:32:13PM +0100, Pavol Srna wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to discuss my own project / idea for Google summer of code
> 2009
> > and if you are interested in, then I would like to find a potential
> mentor for
> > this project.
> >
> What's the function of a mentor in this context?
> 
> 
> I am new to Google summer of code. Now after some talk on IRC chat, I have
> found out that it is not necessary to have a mentor assigned to an idea before
> the application writting will start. However, it is good to know if also the
> developers thing that my idea is worthy. So I would like to appeal to the
> evolution developers if they would be so kind and take a look at my idea. And
> to your question, a mentor , from my point of view, is a person usually a
> developer, who can help and guide student with / through his project.
>  
OK, thanks, so you're looking for someone who knows their way about in
the Gnome/Evolution development process among other things.

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Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

2009-03-28 Thread Art Alexion
I only asked because I tried xfce at his suggestion and found that I needed to 
run a gnome app to get any work done. That being the case, I figured I may as 
well be running gnome right up front. My theory was that doing anything serious 
in xfce was more resource intensive than just running gnome, because you were 
running the gnome libs ON TOP of the xfce libs.

He doesn't NEED to run a low resource desktop either, but says he prefers to. I 
don't think he really is.

Sorry for the top post; only way possible on this blackberry.


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- Original Message -
From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
Sent: Sat Mar 28 06:04:56 2009
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:41:23PM +, Art Alexion wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:17 -0400, Chris G wrote:
> > Yes, so do I!  I use xubuntu so I'm not fully Gnome but Gnome
> > applications such as Evolution are fully supported.
> 
> I would be most appreciative if someone can clear this up for me, as a
> co-worker also uses Evolution and other Gnome apps in Xfce.
> 
> It has always been my understanding that once one launches a Gnome app,
> like Evo or Nautilus, in Xfce that the gnome libs are loaded into
> memory, and you may as well be running full Gnome, resource wise.
> 
> Is that true?
> 
Yes, except that when you install something like Evolution in xfce it
only installs those libraries it actually needs.  So, depending on
which bits of Gnome you use, there will be more or less library
baggage brought in with it.

I don't run xfce because of its lower hardware requirements, I just
like the cleaner/leaner way it works.  My system is very new, has an
Intel Quad core processor and 8Gb of memory so the odd extra library
being loaded isn't really an issue.

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Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

2009-03-28 Thread Chris G
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:01:11AM -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
> Sent: Sat Mar 28 06:04:56 2009
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:41:23PM +, Art Alexion wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:17 -0400, Chris G wrote:
> > > Yes, so do I!  I use xubuntu so I'm not fully Gnome but Gnome
> > > applications such as Evolution are fully supported.
> > 
> > I would be most appreciative if someone can clear this up for me, as a
> > co-worker also uses Evolution and other Gnome apps in Xfce.
> > 
> > It has always been my understanding that once one launches a Gnome app,
> > like Evo or Nautilus, in Xfce that the gnome libs are loaded into
> > memory, and you may as well be running full Gnome, resource wise.
> > 
> > Is that true?
> > 
> Yes, except that when you install something like Evolution in xfce it
> only installs those libraries it actually needs.  So, depending on
> which bits of Gnome you use, there will be more or less library
> baggage brought in with it.
> 
> I don't run xfce because of its lower hardware requirements, I just
> like the cleaner/leaner way it works.  My system is very new, has an
> Intel Quad core processor and 8Gb of memory so the odd extra library
> being loaded isn't really an issue.
> 
> I only asked because I tried xfce at his suggestion and found that I needed 
> to run a gnome app to get any work done. That being the case, I figured I may 
> as well be running gnome right up front. My theory was that doing anything 
> serious in xfce was more resource intensive than just running gnome, because 
> you were running the gnome libs ON TOP of the xfce libs.
> 
> He doesn't NEED to run a low resource desktop either, but says he prefers to. 
> I don't think he really is.
> 
I meant I prefer the xfce user interface not that I preferred to use
less resources, as I said I really don't push my hardware very hard at all.

I also run some KDE applications (e.g. digikam) so I have much of the
the KDE libraries installed too.

I'm sure this is the way most people do things isn't it?  Decide which
user interface (or just the look) that they prefer and then install
the applications they prefer without worrying too much about whether
they are Gnome apps, KDE apps or whatever.

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Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

2009-03-28 Thread Art Alexion
Perhaps true. I prefer the KDE interface, but at work I use gnome solely for 
running evo for exchange and tsclient for administering windows servers.

I have the luxury of just using a separate computer connected to a kvm to run 
kde.

While I installed evo at home, for work email, it is easier to just pull out 
this blackberry.

I'd really like a summer of code project to port evo to the blackberry ;-)

That, or support the GAL outside the firewall the way OWA and BES do...

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- Original Message -
From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
Sent: Sat Mar 28 08:22:50 2009
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:01:11AM -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
> Sent: Sat Mar 28 06:04:56 2009
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Own project / idea for Google summer of code 2009
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:41:23PM +, Art Alexion wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:17 -0400, Chris G wrote:
> > > Yes, so do I!  I use xubuntu so I'm not fully Gnome but Gnome
> > > applications such as Evolution are fully supported.
> > 
> > I would be most appreciative if someone can clear this up for me, as a
> > co-worker also uses Evolution and other Gnome apps in Xfce.
> > 
> > It has always been my understanding that once one launches a Gnome app,
> > like Evo or Nautilus, in Xfce that the gnome libs are loaded into
> > memory, and you may as well be running full Gnome, resource wise.
> > 
> > Is that true?
> > 
> Yes, except that when you install something like Evolution in xfce it
> only installs those libraries it actually needs.  So, depending on
> which bits of Gnome you use, there will be more or less library
> baggage brought in with it.
> 
> I don't run xfce because of its lower hardware requirements, I just
> like the cleaner/leaner way it works.  My system is very new, has an
> Intel Quad core processor and 8Gb of memory so the odd extra library
> being loaded isn't really an issue.
> 
> I only asked because I tried xfce at his suggestion and found that I needed 
> to run a gnome app to get any work done. That being the case, I figured I may 
> as well be running gnome right up front. My theory was that doing anything 
> serious in xfce was more resource intensive than just running gnome, because 
> you were running the gnome libs ON TOP of the xfce libs.
> 
> He doesn't NEED to run a low resource desktop either, but says he prefers to. 
> I don't think he really is.
> 
I meant I prefer the xfce user interface not that I preferred to use
less resources, as I said I really don't push my hardware very hard at all.

I also run some KDE applications (e.g. digikam) so I have much of the
the KDE libraries installed too.

I'm sure this is the way most people do things isn't it?  Decide which
user interface (or just the look) that they prefer and then install
the applications they prefer without worrying too much about whether
they are Gnome apps, KDE apps or whatever.

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Re: [Evolution] Errors When Viewing Mail

2009-03-28 Thread Scott Richards
Steven, 
I've been there too.

1) upgrade -- 2.24.x is fixed
or (I'm assuming you're in the in-box with view selected as unread)
2) use v-folder (search folder)  with folder view =  'view all'.
Search filter is "all unread"
or
3) turn off  "mark as read after N seconds" in mail pref's. , & use
Ctl-K to mark as read

Pretty much what's hat's happening is the fie is being auto-marked read
just after it opens and you selected 'view  unread' for the folder, so
it goes away.

Scott


On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 16:54 -0400, steven sprague wrote: 

> When I double click on a single message (not using message preview) the
> mail viewer opens, I see the message for a second and then the display
> is a blank message / page.
> 
> If I go back and use the preview message (Ctrl-M) function I get the
> split screen and can see the message fine. Can you tell me what's
> happened to the program to stop allowing me a new window view of single
> messages? 
> 
> If there is a fix point me in the right direction.
> 
> Using Evolution 2.12.3 on Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop 5.2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
> Steven
> 
> Steven L. Sprague, PMPĀ®, CSM
> Mobile: 919.672.9621
> Email: ste...@sprague-enterprises.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution help usinf ATT.net

2009-03-28 Thread hggdh
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
Brian Trimble  wrote:

> I loaded Unbuntu 8.1 and I tried to set up Evolution and I could not
> get it to work. I called ATT ( Bellsouth) and they could offer no
> help. 
> 
> Please advise


You hve more chances of getting help if you go to
https://answers.launchpad.net/ and search/ask there, Also, when stating
your question there please provide more data: "could not get it to
work" really does not provide us with anything to work on.

Instead please give the exact error message(s) you get. Also, please
state your Evolution version (click on Help/About).

Regards,

..hggdh..


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