[Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Axel
Hey Team!

Last weekend I switched from my Kubuntu 8.04 Setup to the Mandriva 2008.1 
Setup. I am using Evolution 2.22.0 and I have to say its works better then my 
latest all backports on Kubuntu. 

I had one backend disconnect during the week. And I had one day with 2 freezes 
the other none or just one. Now I am also using compiz. This has one benefit, 
as compiz greys out the evo window if the app is frozen and the window color 
changes, when the app is working again. This also helps. It freezes throughout 
the day for 2-3 seconds approx 10-15 times (i did not count it). 

All in all, it is a seriously better experience then in kubuntu. 

If there are any similar views or concersn please let me know.

Axel


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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:24 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:08 +1000, Greg Vickers wrote:
> > 3) select the quote.  Why are these or a similar option 
> > not available in Evolution?
> 
> You can do this, if I understand what you mean.  Just select some subset
> of the message with your mouse before you click "Reply", and only that
> part of your message will be quoted in the reply.  I just did that to
> create this message, selecting only your comment above.
> 
> 
> Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible
> including different quoting styles, etc.  Specifying where the cursor
> should start in the composer seems like a subset of that.  Maybe this is
> something a plugin could do?

I'm all for flexibility, but as the saying goes "the perfect is the
enemy of the good". If we wait for someone to write a plugin with
various bells and whistles it might never happen, whereas the simple
option I'm asking for would presumably take a lot less effort.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread HggdH


> Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible
> including different quoting styles, etc.  Specifying where the cursor
> should start in the composer seems like a subset of that.  Maybe this is
> something a plugin could do?

+1.

I find myself every so often changing the settings to Quote Msg/Inline,
depending if I am replying to lists/non-customers or to one of my
customers (usually running under Notes or Exchange).

It would be nice to have an option to selectively Quote/Inline, either
at the account level (for me, that would be enough) or at the contact
level.

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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find
> yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and
> then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
> can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed.

About this, there has been committed a patch for a bug #469292 [1],
where the empty line is added at the top only with top-posting enabled.
No change for cursor positioning, though.

Feel free to file a bug, if you wish. (You can CC me there too).
Milan

[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469292

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Re: [Evolution] cross populating events to different calender servers

2008-05-29 Thread Milan Crha
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 15:18 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> Here's my situation (and I am sure I'm not the only one):
> 
> I have a calendar server at my job, which I configured evo to use.  I
> can enter events and see the calendar just fine.
> 
> I also have my "personal" calendar here locally.  No server, just the
> local evolution supported calendar.
> 
> It's perfectly feasible that I could have other calendars via calendar
> servers too, but for now lets just keep it simple with one calendar
> server for work and a personal calendar for home.
> 
> So, now let's say I have a doctor's appointment during what would
> normally be a work day.  I enter that into my personal calendar with all
> of the details.
> 
> Really, though I also want the work calendar to reflect that as "busy"
> time so that people don't see that time as available and book me into a
> meeting during it.
> 
> I also don't really want the details of my doctor's appointment on the
> work calendar, so using that calendar for my personal appointments is
> not an option either.
> 
> What solutions exist other than to manually double book my personal time
> away from work into both calendars?
> 
> Thanx,
> b.

Hi,
I'm not sure whether I can help here, I just want to suggest one thing:
even Evolution supports Publishing of calendars, or also Free/Busy
servers, (Edit->Preferences->Calendar and Tasks), then what about using
company calendar but setting a 'private' flag for the appointment? It
depends on your company calendar, if it supports it and treats it
properly, but it would be easier than the other things, I guess.
You can find it in editing dialog of the appointment under menu
Options->Classifications.
Bye,
Milan

(Note: I do not know much about free/busy servers or how to use
published calendars, so do not ask me.)

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Re: [Evolution] cross populating events to different calender servers

2008-05-29 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> 
>   Hi,

Hi.

> I'm not sure whether I can help here, I just want to suggest one thing:
> even Evolution supports Publishing of calendars,

Publishing in what way?

> or also Free/Busy
> servers, (Edit->Preferences->Calendar and Tasks),

That depends on people wanting to book meetings in my corporate calendar
to observe the free/busy from my personal calendar.  What if I have many
personal calendars?  What if my corporate calendar server won't reflect
the free/busy of my personal calendar?

> then what about using
> company calendar but setting a 'private' flag for the appointment?

And what happens when I've used the company calendar to book my next
year's worth of personal appointments and then I get fired, or the
company calendar's data store crashes and there is no back up?  Or what
if I have privacy concerns about putting my personal data on the company
calendar server.  Or what if my company forbids me from putting personal
events in their calendar?

> It
> depends on your company calendar,

It *way* depends on it.

Thanx for the thoughts though.

b.



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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:43 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find
> yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and
> then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
> can
> say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. 

Which is why I always select the text I want to quote *before* hitting
reply.  This select to quote feature is an extremely valuable, if
overlooked feature that is in evo and kmail.  I really miss it when I
have to use a webmail program or that windows program.


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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:08 -0400, Greg Vickers wrote:
> If I'm feeling exceptionally lazy or have had a 
> bad day, or am replying in kind to a top poster, I'll just top post 

The only thing worse than top post and quote everything, is a thread
with mixed top and bottom posting.  You can't follow anything.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 07:54 -0400, Axel wrote:
> Last weekend I switched from my Kubuntu 8.04 Setup to the Mandriva
> 2008.1 Setup. I am using Evolution 2.22.0 and I have to say its works
> better then my latest all backports on Kubuntu. 
> 
> I had one backend disconnect during the week. And I had one day with 2
> freezes the other none or just one. Now I am also using compiz. This
> has one benefit, as compiz greys out the evo window if the app is
> frozen and the window color changes, when the app is working again.
> This also helps. It freezes throughout the day for 2-3 seconds approx
> 10-15 times (i did not count it). 
> 
> All in all, it is a seriously better experience then in kubuntu. 
> 
> If there are any similar views or concersn please let me know.

I have the luxury of 3 or 4 computers attached to a kvm at my desk.  I
was using Ubuntu for evo because I preferred debian administration to
rpm-based.  Evo worked fine through 2.12 on gutsy (7.10), but
experienced constant exchange disconnects after upgrading to hardy
(8.04) which installs evo 2.22.1.

I switched back to SLED 10.1 which only experiences a disconnect a month
or more (Novell/evo 2.6)  I haven't mentioned this before because I
think with the Novel tweaks, the comparison is not fair.  2.6 seems to
have identical functionality to 2.22.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:12 -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> but experienced constant exchange disconnects after upgrading to hardy
> (8.04) which installs evo 2.22.1.

I think I've mentioned this before recently, but FYI: this was tracked
down to a bug in OpenLDAP (which Evo Exchange uses to connect to the
Exchange Global Address Server).  This same bug was causing all kinds of
other issues in places like xscreensaver, etc.  See this:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/openldap2.3/+bug/215904

and this:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512605

A fix for this has been uploaded to the Hardy "proposed" repository
within the last day or two.  "Proposed" is not enabled by default but
it's easy to enable (go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources,
the Updates tab, and select "Pre-released updates (hardy-proposed)").

With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable for
me.

FWIW, YMMV, etc.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Art Alexion
Thanks.  I'll give it a try.



On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable
> for
> me.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Update

2008-05-29 Thread Axel
Art please also send an update - not that I dont trust Paul, but its good to 
get re-verified by others too. 
I might move back ;-) Its so quick to migrate my /documents and the automated 
evo backup stuff. 

BTW I agreed with debian update approach. I also like it much better then the 
rpm approach. Mandriva did a good job in improving it though. What I like is, 
that Mandriva worked very well in integrating the different tools, writing some 
improved configuration interface, etc. It feels a bit more mature and neat from 
an interface point of view. Plus some added utilities. 

The big picture of course is, that its almost the same. I mean OOO, Evo, 
xserver is no difference. And the channels in Ubuntu are very well managed, 
more updates are faster available - just a view of a few days though. 

Cheers,
Axel



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Thanks.  I'll give it a try.



On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> With this package update, Evo Exchange on Hardy has been very stable
> for
> me.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:28 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find
> > yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and
> > then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
> > can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed.
> 
> About this, there has been committed a patch for a bug #469292 [1],
> where the empty line is added at the top only with top-posting enabled.
> No change for cursor positioning, though.

The discussion in BZ is somewhat confusing. There's reference to a
"top-posting" option, but turning it off doesn't disable top-posting.
What's that about?

> Feel free to file a bug, if you wish. (You can CC me there too).
>   Milan

I'll add a comment to the BZ page.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:58 -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:43 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you
> find
> > yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top,
> and
> > then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I
> > can
> > say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. 
> 
> Which is why I always select the text I want to quote *before* hitting
> reply.  This select to quote feature is an extremely valuable, if
> overlooked feature that is in evo and kmail.  I really miss it when I
> have to use a webmail program or that windows program.

I agree. I use it all the time. However the only difference is that you
don't have to delete the stupid extra line at the top. Otherwise it
still leaves the cursor in "wrong" place.

If the logic of not including the extra line is that the user probably
doesn't want to include a salutation, why isn't the cursor placed at the
bottom?

poc

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[Evolution] Default outgoing account

2008-05-29 Thread Caleb Marcus
In my Evolution setup, I have two accounts... an IMAP/SMTP email
account, and an nntp news account. I have the email account set as my
default account, yet when I compose a new message, the news account is
what's in the From dropdown by default. How can I fix this?

Another issue I have is that the way Evolution is designed, every
account must have an outgoing server... even a news account. It didn't
give me the option of selecting no outgoing server type, I had to select
either Sendmail or SMTP, even though I didn't plan on sending any actual
email on that account.


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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails

2008-05-29 Thread andy
Mats Taraldsvik wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I got so annoyed with the undescriptive subject lines it's learning
> alerts ( itslearning.com ) (and my university) uses, that I wrote a
> Python script (attached) to take care of this.
>
> -> I added a filter rule to pipe the mail to this script.
>
> It uses an smtp-client in python standard library to send mail to
> evolution, and regular expressions to get info from the contents and add
> to the subject line.
>
> I can help with tweaking the script, if you find use for it.
>
> Regards,
> Mats Taraldsvik
>
> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 17:22 +0100, andy wrote:
>   
>> Reid Thompson wrote: 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 

   Message -> Forward As -> Redirect

 Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
 whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
 is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
 email intact.

 This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.

 Pete
 
 
>>> Edit as New Message, Save Draft does create a 'new' message -- it's
>>> essentially a copy with modifications.  The Message-id is changed
>>> i.e. the message id from your email
>>> Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Edit as New Message, Save Draft
>>>
>>> the message id from the Draft
>>> Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> and placing both emails in the same folder with threading on, lists the
>>> draft as a thread child to your email
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>>>   
>> Dear Paul, Reid, Patrick & Pete
>>
>> First off, thank you very much for all of your replies and
>> suggestions. Those are all very much appreciated and there are a
>> number of pretty decent workarounds contained therein.
>>
>> My wife has seemingly stumbled on a fix that she feels comfortable
>> with which is a variation of something already suggested: she will
>> merely forward these emails to herself with the subject line she wants
>> that will be meaningful to her and delete the original. It's a bit of
>> a pain, but I will monitor some of those emails and see if there is
>> some way that I can (semi-)automate this process - e.g. when an email
>> from Companies House arrives, set a rule to forward it to her email
>> address and so it will pop-up waiting for a new subject line.
>>
>> Once again, thank you so much from both of us!
>>
>> You're a good crowd.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Andy
>>
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Mats

Thank you for sending me this code/ programme - that's very generous of you!

Not being a programmer, but familiar with some basic Python, please let 
me know if I have understood this properly:

The programme is executed before Evolution retrieves emails from the 
server, iterates through the emails on the server and, according to 
specific terms of the regular expression, will retitle subject lines. 
 From there, it passes the function back to Evo to download the emails.

Is that a correct reading of the code's functionality?

If so, I presume that there is an option within Evo to execute code 
before it runs its mail fetch or mail send operations, and that this 
code would be called at that time?

Once again, many thanks Mats for your generosity in sharing this and in 
your offer of help. That was really thoughtful of you.

All the best

Andy

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