[Evolution] Birthday Calendar
Hello, I've managed to get evolution set up to use an openldap server for my address book and I've installed the evolutionperson.schema, so I have all of the additional attributes available (like birthday) in my contact entries. Everything is working exactly as expected. What I'm trying to figure out now is how to set up a "Birthdays & Anniversaries" Calendar that uses my LDAP address book. Has anyone done this? ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
Given that top-posting is frowned on by many list users, is it not ironic that Evolution encourages it? I can't believe this hasn't been raised before, but I can't find any previous discussion of it, just plenty of complaints about top-posters. IMHO there should be an option to locate the text cursor before or after quoted matter. I'm happy to file a ER in Bugzilla if there isn't one already. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 18:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Given that top-posting is frowned on by many list users, is it not > ironic that Evolution encourages it? I can't believe this hasn't been > raised before, but I can't find any previous discussion of it, just > plenty of complaints about top-posters. On the contrary, we've gone round and round about this in one bug after the other. I personally think it's rather silly, but users seem quite passionate about where the cursor should go. Current consensus is that since many bottom posters still like to place a greeting at the top, we leave the cursor at the top. Also, placing the cursor at the top encourages bottom posters to use selective quoting rather than quoting the sender's entire email (or mailing list digest, as the case may be). The initial cursor position is not going to change people's habits. Top posters will continue to top post and bottom posters will continue to grumble no matter what we do. Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:08 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 18:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Given that top-posting is frowned on by many list users, is it not > > ironic that Evolution encourages it? I can't believe this hasn't been > > raised before, but I can't find any previous discussion of it, just > > plenty of complaints about top-posters. > > On the contrary, we've gone round and round about this in one bug after > the other. I personally think it's rather silly, but users seem quite > passionate about where the cursor should go. I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I can say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. > Current consensus is that since many bottom posters still like to place > a greeting at the top, we leave the cursor at the top. Also, placing > the cursor at the top encourages bottom posters to use selective quoting > rather than quoting the sender's entire email (or mailing list digest, > as the case may be). Very unconvincing I'm afraid. In my experience bottom posters are already more likely to quote selectively. What about encouraging the top-posters to do it as well, given that so few of them seem to do it? > The initial cursor position is not going to change people's habits. Top > posters will continue to top post and bottom posters will continue to > grumble no matter what we do. On the contrary. IMHO placing the cursor at the bottom is quite likely to change at least some people's habits. However this is beside the point. I'm not trying to make everyone to do it my way, which is why I'm proposing to make it an option. It would seem on the surface to be an extremely trivial feature to add. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
Hi all, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 00:08 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: >> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 18:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> Given that top-posting is frowned on by many list users, is it not >>> ironic that Evolution encourages it? I can't believe this hasn't been >>> raised before, but I can't find any previous discussion of it, just >>> plenty of complaints about top-posters. >> On the contrary, we've gone round and round about this in one bug after >> the other. I personally think it's rather silly, but users seem quite >> passionate about where the cursor should go. > > I don't know what your personal preference is, but if like me you find > yourself first deleting the extra line Evo introduces at the top, and > then scrolling to the bottom for *every single reply you type* all I can > say is that it quickly becomes very irritating indeed. > >> Current consensus is that since many bottom posters still like to place >> a greeting at the top, we leave the cursor at the top. Also, placing >> the cursor at the top encourages bottom posters to use selective quoting >> rather than quoting the sender's entire email (or mailing list digest, >> as the case may be). > > Very unconvincing I'm afraid. In my experience bottom posters are > already more likely to quote selectively. What about encouraging the > top-posters to do it as well, given that so few of them seem to do it? For what it's worth, I top post the "Hi (all/fred/others)", then go on to selectively quote. If I'm feeling exceptionally lazy or have had a bad day, or am replying in kind to a top poster, I'll just top post (with vengeance!) >> The initial cursor position is not going to change people's habits. Top >> posters will continue to top post and bottom posters will continue to >> grumble no matter what we do. > > On the contrary. IMHO placing the cursor at the bottom is quite likely > to change at least some people's habits. However this is beside the > point. I'm not trying to make everyone to do it my way, which is why I'm > proposing to make it an option. It would seem on the surface to be an > extremely trivial feature to add. Thunderbird gives three (!) options, 1) reply above quote, 2) reply under quote or, 3) select the quote. Why are these or a similar option not available in Evolution? Cheers, -- Greg Vickers Phone: +61 7 3138 6902 IT Security Engineer & Project Manager Queensland University of Technology, CRICOS No. 00213J ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top-posting in Evolution
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:08 +1000, Greg Vickers wrote: > 3) select the quote. Why are these or a similar option > not available in Evolution? You can do this, if I understand what you mean. Just select some subset of the message with your mouse before you click "Reply", and only that part of your message will be quoted in the reply. I just did that to create this message, selecting only your comment above. Personally I'd like to see the quoting process a lot more flexible including different quoting styles, etc. Specifying where the cursor should start in the composer seems like a subset of that. Maybe this is something a plugin could do? ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
