Re: [Evolution] wireless surfing

2007-10-26 Thread art
This is not really an evolution question.  You don't have to use the mail 
servers of the connection provider.  Use the ones that you normally use.

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From:  meredith walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date:  Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:02 am
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Hi, I am surfing on an unsecured wireless connection. But I can't send/receive 
emails from Evolution. I have used the name of the connection for the SMPT. But 
I am wondering whether it is not working I need information a code from the 
service provider - which obviously I don't have, 

If so, is there some way around the problem.  

gg. 




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Re: [Evolution] Evolution keeps forgetting password

2007-10-26 Thread Sankar P

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 02:10 +0200, Christoffer Kj*lb*k wrote:
> > I've been seeing the same thing, and if you're using Evolution with a
> > POP3 account (and perhaps MAPI as well, which I don't use), the password
> > box also says something like "remember password for this session." Since
> > an email session ends when you shut down Evolution, you need to refresh
> > the password each time you restart Evo...at least that's the view from
> > my screen...
> 
> Hi Pete
> 
> I guess i found the "error". I was using APOP for authentication, and
> for some reason that didn't work properly. I have now switch to
> DIGEST-MD5, and it seems to work now.

IIRC,  I fixed an issue a few months back whereby APOP response from
servers where improper (containing non-ASCII things). Just check if that
is the case.

> 
> Best regards
> Christoffer Kj*lb*k 
> > 
> > With best regards,
> > 
> > Pete
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Re: [Evolution] wireless surfing

2007-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 06:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is not really an evolution question.  You don't have to use the mail 
> servers of the connection provider.  Use the ones that you normally use.

To avoid the problems of open relays, your email provider may only allow
SMTP from their own users, i.e. users on their own network, so as you
move around you generally have to configure the SMTP server according to
where you are (or just use a webmail service). Note that the IMAP/POP
server doesn't change.

Other providers do allow SMTP from anywhere, but only with an
authenticated session. You need to ask them how to do this and change
your Evo account info accordingly.

In any case, you make these changes in
Preferences->->Edit->Sending Mail.

I don't know what "the name of the connection" means here, but what you
need is the DNS name of the local SMTP server. The online help gives
detailed instrucions.

poc

> -Original Message-
> 
> From:  meredith walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj:  [Evolution] wireless surfing
> Date:  Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:02 am
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> To:  "evolution-list@gnome.org" 
> 
> Hi, I am surfing on an unsecured wireless connection. But I can't 
> send/receive emails from Evolution. I have used the name of the connection 
> for the SMPT. But I am wondering whether it is not working I need information 
> a code from the service provider - which obviously I don't have, 
> 
> If so, is there some way around the problem.  
> 
> gg. 
> 
> 
> 
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[Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Cambra
Hi,

I represent a company with 600+ end users.  We are actively seeking
replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange
and MS Office.  We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution
with select users and the IT Staff.

The biggest complaint we see with Evolution after one month of use is
the apparent inability of Evolution to properly handle HTML-based e-mail
with Internet content.  For instance, when a user receives an HTML
message with graphics and other content fetched from Internet locations,
the reading pane (lower right pane) freezes.  At this point, you can't
use the reading pane anymore and Evolution can't be closed out.  The
only option to return Evolution to normal functionality is to log off
the user.

We've seen this behavior on Ubuntu 7.10 using Evolution as an Exchange
client.  This is meant as constructive feedback because we want your
technology to succeed.

Best regards,
-- 

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 06:35 -0600, Todd Ness wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:23 -0400, Rob Cambra wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I represent a company with 600+ end users.  We are actively seeking
> > replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange
> > and MS Office.  We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution
> > with select users and the IT Staff.
> > 
> > The biggest complaint we see with Evolution after one month of use is
> > the apparent inability of Evolution to properly handle HTML-based
> > e-mail with Internet content.  For instance, when a user receives an
> > HTML message with graphics and other content fetched from Internet
> > locations, the reading pane (lower right pane) freezes.  At this
> > point, you can't use the reading pane anymore and Evolution can't be
> > closed out.  The only option to return Evolution to normal
> > functionality is to log off the user.
> > 
> > We've seen this behavior on Ubuntu 7.10 using Evolution as an Exchange
> > client.  This is meant as constructive feedback because we want your
> > technology to succeed.
> Some things I have found to make evolution a little better.
> give it a wrapper script similar to this.
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> export EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH=1
> ulimit -n 1024
> exec /usr/bin/evolution
> 
> the file limit helped a lot.

Interesting. I don't think EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH is relevant here
however.

> Also, instead of logging the user out you can open a shell and run:
> pkill -f evolution
> and then start your client up again.

The canonical way to kill Evo is "evolution --force-shutdown", but of
course "pkill" is easier to type. Is there a difference? I've no idea,
and the online help is silent.

> I have been asking several questions the last 2 weeks about why
> evolution freezes as well and have not seen much help.
> I would assume that they will need more information such as the version
> of evolution you are running.
> run this command in a terminal...
> rpm -qa|grep evolution 

The OP implied he's using Ubuntu, so no rpm. Within Evo, Help->About
gives you the version info.

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Todd Ness


On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:23 -0400, Rob Cambra wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I represent a company with 600+ end users.  We are actively seeking
> replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange
> and MS Office.  We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution
> with select users and the IT Staff.
> 
> The biggest complaint we see with Evolution after one month of use is
> the apparent inability of Evolution to properly handle HTML-based
> e-mail with Internet content.  For instance, when a user receives an
> HTML message with graphics and other content fetched from Internet
> locations, the reading pane (lower right pane) freezes.  At this
> point, you can't use the reading pane anymore and Evolution can't be
> closed out.  The only option to return Evolution to normal
> functionality is to log off the user.
> 
> We've seen this behavior on Ubuntu 7.10 using Evolution as an Exchange
> client.  This is meant as constructive feedback because we want your
> technology to succeed.
Some things I have found to make evolution a little better.
give it a wrapper script similar to this.
#!/bin/bash

export EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH=1
ulimit -n 1024
exec /usr/bin/evolution

the file limit helped a lot.

Also, instead of logging the user out you can open a shell and run:
pkill -f evolution
and then start your client up again.

I have been asking several questions the last 2 weeks about why
evolution freezes as well and have not seen much help.
I would assume that they will need more information such as the version
of evolution you are running.
run this command in a terminal...
rpm -qa|grep evolution 

But, who knows maybe the lack of information will get a response
Good Luck from a guy who is totally invested in non-Windows platforms
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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Peter Lord

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 at 08:23 -0400, Rob Cambra wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I represent a company with 600+ end users.  We are actively seeking
> replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange
> and MS Office.  We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution
> with select users and the IT Staff.
> 
> The biggest complaint we see with Evolution after one month of use is
> the apparent inability of Evolution to properly handle HTML-based
> e-mail with Internet content.  For instance, when a user receives an
> HTML message with graphics and other content fetched from Internet
> locations, the reading pane (lower right pane) freezes.  At this
> point, you can't use the reading pane anymore and Evolution can't be
> closed out.  The only option to return Evolution to normal
> functionality is to log off the user.
> 
> We've seen this behavior on Ubuntu 7.10 using Evolution as an Exchange
> client.  This is meant as constructive feedback because we want your
> technology to succeed.
> 
> Best regards,


I'm going through a similar exercise ... but on opensuse 10.3.

I see that opensuse have a applied quite a few patches on top of the
evolution 2.12 source.  Also, I've noticed some recent opensuse updates
in some of the pre-requisists ( such as libsoup ).  Net result seems to
be that its pretty stable for me.

Suggest its worth checking if there are similar patches applied to the
Ubuntu packages.

[ in fact there were a couple of fixes which I wanted and arn't in the
opensuse patch list, so I've taken the source rpm and added these in
myself :-) ]

Pete


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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Cambra
We're using Evolution 2.12.0.

Regards,

RC

-Original Message-
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Todd Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:53:20 -0400


On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 06:35 -0600, Todd Ness wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:23 -0400, Rob Cambra wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I represent a company with 600+ end users.  We are actively seeking
> > replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange
> > and MS Office.  We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution
> > with select users and the IT Staff.
> > 
> > The biggest complaint we see with Evolution after one month of use is
> > the apparent inability of Evolution to properly handle HTML-based
> > e-mail with Internet content.  For instance, when a user receives an
> > HTML message with graphics and other content fetched from Internet
> > locations, the reading pane (lower right pane) freezes.  At this
> > point, you can't use the reading pane anymore and Evolution can't be
> > closed out.  The only option to return Evolution to normal
> > functionality is to log off the user.
> > 
> > We've seen this behavior on Ubuntu 7.10 using Evolution as an Exchange
> > client.  This is meant as constructive feedback because we want your
> > technology to succeed.
> Some things I have found to make evolution a little better.
> give it a wrapper script similar to this.
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> export EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH=1
> ulimit -n 1024
> exec /usr/bin/evolution
> 
> the file limit helped a lot.

Interesting. I don't think EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH is relevant here
however.

> Also, instead of logging the user out you can open a shell and run:
> pkill -f evolution
> and then start your client up again.

The canonical way to kill Evo is "evolution --force-shutdown", but of
course "pkill" is easier to type. Is there a difference? I've no idea,
and the online help is silent.

> I have been asking several questions the last 2 weeks about why
> evolution freezes as well and have not seen much help.
> I would assume that they will need more information such as the version
> of evolution you are running.
> run this command in a terminal...
> rpm -qa|grep evolution 

The OP implied he's using Ubuntu, so no rpm. Within Evo, Help->About
gives you the version info.

poc


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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Todd Ness

> Pkill just searches for all processes of the current user which match
> the leading pattern evolution and kills them.
> 
> evolution --force-shutdown kills
> evolution
> evolution-data-server
> evolution-exchange
> evolution-alarm-notify
> 
> In this case there isnt much of a difference since you probably
> dont have any other application called evolution-* which is
> running but is unrelated to evolution.
> 
> Its fairly straightforward to see that using evolution --force-shutdown
> is a much safer bet.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Cheers,
> Shreyas
the -f flag matches on the entire command line. yes the
--force-shutdown, any how I just used this option and it has the added
benefit that it restarts evolution for you so a much better plan (I
think)

The real question is why does evolution have so many problems? I restart
10-15 times a day.

First I thought it might be a problem with the exchange option of
"synchronize for offline usage" I won't try to get the exact wording
because that is what caused evolution to hang for 5 minutes during the
last reply. 
Why did I think this? because most of the time the status bar would get
a "Retrieving message 1234123421..." and a "Downloading for offline
usage..." the text may be off some on these I apologize if that is the
case.
So, I turned this off and well it was better for a couple of hours and
then it was back to the same old problems no mail showing up. can't
change to a different folder.
Although I do get a new error dialog more often, "Can't refresh folder,"
and a few "Could not contact server", "lost contact with backend
exchange process", but these do not all of these require restarts.
Filters on exchange 2.12.0 seem to have stopped working whereas they
worked on 2.8, but that was much worse about staying connected and
getting new mail.

Then I submit questions and get no answers, but, I have found out that
if I submit a slightly wrong answer for somebody I do generate replies,
and I appreciate Patrick correcting my mistakes, I will not make the
same ones again.

BTW, entourage the MS mail client for Macintosh can sit here next to my
Linux box and run all day, reminders pop up, mail comes in, no problems,
so I am pretty sure that it is not a network issue.

So, sorry to take over your original string with my complaints too, but
I do have a vested interest in getting tools that will enable an
enterprise to use a Linux desktop and not have these sorts of issues.


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Re: [Evolution] Help. Unable to store Inbox

2007-10-26 Thread cs
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:46 -0400, Robert Kochis wrote:
> I am running Fedora Core 6 with Evolution 2.8.3
> I have 2 problems.  I get an error message stating "Error while
> Storing Folder Inbox" followed by an unable to retrieve email.  Any
> ideas what is happening here.
> 
> Secondly, I preform a Message -> Check for junk and it does not remove
> ANY emails.  I have over 260 emails marked as Junk.  I am performing
> this test when I have a number of unread emails that are obviously
> Junk.  Any assistance would be appreciated.  
> Thanks, Bob 

POP or IMAP?
can you use webmail etc to check it's not an account problem (full
mailbox)?

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 19:03 +0530, Shreyas Srinivasan wrote:
> On 10/26/07, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 06:35 -0600, Todd Ness wrote:
> > > > I represent a company with 600+ end users.  We are actively seeking
> > > > replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange
> > > > and MS Office.  We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution
> > > > with select users and the IT Staff.
> > > Also, instead of logging the user out you can open a shell and run:
> > > pkill -f evolution
> > > and then start your client up again.
> >
> > The canonical way to kill Evo is "evolution --force-shutdown", but of
> > course "pkill" is easier to type. Is there a difference? I've no idea,
> > and the online help is silent.
> 
> Pkill just searches for all processes of the current user which match
> the leading pattern evolution and kills them.

With the "-f" flag it doesn't have to be a leading pattern. Not that it
matters in this case.

> evolution --force-shutdown kills
> evolution
> evolution-data-server
> evolution-exchange
> evolution-alarm-notify
> 
> In this case there isnt much of a difference since you probably
> dont have any other application called evolution-* which is
> running but is unrelated to evolution.
> 
> Its fairly straightforward to see that using evolution --force-shutdown
> is a much safer bet.

Except that Evo needs to connect to an X server even just to shut down.
I've occasionally wanted to log in remotely and kill an Evo session, and
pkill is simpler in this case. (I know you can do "ssh -X" but I for one
never remember that until I've already logged in :-)

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Except that Evo needs to connect to an X server even just to shut down.
> I've occasionally wanted to log in remotely and kill an Evo session, and
> pkill is simpler in this case. (I know you can do "ssh -X" but I for one
> never remember that until I've already logged in :-)

Handy tip:

"--force-shutdown" just spawns ${libexec}/evolution/2.12/killev.
Calling killev directly doesn't require a display.

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Reid Thompson
Reid Thompson wrote:
> Matthew Barnes wrote:
>> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> Except that Evo needs to connect to an X server even just to shut down.
>>> I've occasionally wanted to log in remotely and kill an Evo session, and
>>> pkill is simpler in this case. (I know you can do "ssh -X" but I for one
>>> never remember that until I've already logged in :-)
>>
>> Handy tip:
>>
>> "--force-shutdown" just spawns ${libexec}/evolution/2.12/killev.
>> Calling killev directly doesn't require a display.
>>
>> Matthew Barnes
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> FAQ update??
> 
> Evolution has frozen / has crashed, what shall I do?
> 
> You can kill Evolution by running the command evolution --force-shutdown 
> (you need an X display to do this). If possible, also submit a bug 
> report (see above).
> 
Never mind -- created account and added.
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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Reid Thompson
Matthew Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> Except that Evo needs to connect to an X server even just to shut down.
>> I've occasionally wanted to log in remotely and kill an Evo session, and
>> pkill is simpler in this case. (I know you can do "ssh -X" but I for one
>> never remember that until I've already logged in :-)
> 
> Handy tip:
> 
> "--force-shutdown" just spawns ${libexec}/evolution/2.12/killev.
> Calling killev directly doesn't require a display.
> 
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FAQ update??

Evolution has frozen / has crashed, what shall I do?

You can kill Evolution by running the command evolution --force-shutdown (you 
need an X display to do this). If possible, also submit a bug report (see 
above).
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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:45 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Except that Evo needs to connect to an X server even just to shut down.
> > I've occasionally wanted to log in remotely and kill an Evo session, and
> > pkill is simpler in this case. (I know you can do "ssh -X" but I for one
> > never remember that until I've already logged in :-)
> 
> Handy tip:
> 
> "--force-shutdown" just spawns ${libexec}/evolution/2.12/killev.
> Calling killev directly doesn't require a display.

That's useful to know.

In earlier incarnations of Evo, the recommendation was to run "killev",
since this was also installed as a command. Why was this changed?

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:04 -0600, Todd Ness wrote:
> > Pkill just searches for all processes of the current user which match
> > the leading pattern evolution and kills them.
> > 
> > evolution --force-shutdown kills
> > evolution
> > evolution-data-server
> > evolution-exchange
> > evolution-alarm-notify
> > 
> > In this case there isnt much of a difference since you probably
> > dont have any other application called evolution-* which is
> > running but is unrelated to evolution.
> > 
> > Its fairly straightforward to see that using evolution --force-shutdown
> > is a much safer bet.
> > 
> > Hope that helps.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Shreyas
> the -f flag matches on the entire command line. yes the
> --force-shutdown, any how I just used this option and it has the added
> benefit that it restarts evolution for you so a much better plan (I
> think)

AFAIK "--force-shutdown" does not restart Evo automatically. I've
certainly never seen it do this. It justs shuts it down.

> The real question is why does evolution have so many problems? I restart
> 10-15 times a day.
> 
> First I thought it might be a problem with the exchange option of
> "synchronize for offline usage" I won't try to get the exact wording
> because that is what caused evolution to hang for 5 minutes during the
> last reply. 
> Why did I think this? because most of the time the status bar would get
> a "Retrieving message 1234123421..." and a "Downloading for offline
> usage..." the text may be off some on these I apologize if that is the
> case.
> So, I turned this off and well it was better for a couple of hours and
> then it was back to the same old problems no mail showing up. can't
> change to a different folder.
> Although I do get a new error dialog more often, "Can't refresh folder,"
> and a few "Could not contact server", "lost contact with backend
> exchange process", but these do not all of these require restarts.
> Filters on exchange 2.12.0 seem to have stopped working whereas they
> worked on 2.8, but that was much worse about staying connected and
> getting new mail.
> 
> Then I submit questions and get no answers, but, I have found out that
> if I submit a slightly wrong answer for somebody I do generate replies,
> and I appreciate Patrick correcting my mistakes, I will not make the
> same ones again.

I'm not an Evo devel, just a user of several years' experience with this
software. I generally butt in when I happen to know the answer or see
some ambiguity in someone else's. Sorry if that's irritating at times,
but I know what it's like to ask questions and get no answers. I posted
one a while back about periodic freezing of the Evo UI, which I would
have expected to generate some reaction, but either no-one else is
seeing this, or I wasn't sufficiently clear, or there isn't enough data
for a meaningful answer. In any case it's still happening, literally
while I type this.

What you might try doing is setting "export CAMEL_DEBUG=all" and running
Evo from the command line. That will generate many many debug messages
which might help to track down the problem.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Cambra
Patrick,

I'll try that debug option.  Maybe I can get that data to someone in a
position to take action.  I'm excited about the possibility of an
Outlook replacement but unfortunately, I can't see Evo being the one
yet.

Regards,
RC
-Original Message-
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Todd Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: evolution-list 
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:41:54 -0400


On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:04 -0600, Todd Ness wrote:
> > Pkill just searches for all processes of the current user which match
> > the leading pattern evolution and kills them.
> > 
> > evolution --force-shutdown kills
> > evolution
> > evolution-data-server
> > evolution-exchange
> > evolution-alarm-notify
> > 
> > In this case there isnt much of a difference since you probably
> > dont have any other application called evolution-* which is
> > running but is unrelated to evolution.
> > 
> > Its fairly straightforward to see that using evolution --force-shutdown
> > is a much safer bet.
> > 
> > Hope that helps.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Shreyas
> the -f flag matches on the entire command line. yes the
> --force-shutdown, any how I just used this option and it has the added
> benefit that it restarts evolution for you so a much better plan (I
> think)

AFAIK "--force-shutdown" does not restart Evo automatically. I've
certainly never seen it do this. It justs shuts it down.

> The real question is why does evolution have so many problems? I restart
> 10-15 times a day.
> 
> First I thought it might be a problem with the exchange option of
> "synchronize for offline usage" I won't try to get the exact wording
> because that is what caused evolution to hang for 5 minutes during the
> last reply. 
> Why did I think this? because most of the time the status bar would get
> a "Retrieving message 1234123421..." and a "Downloading for offline
> usage..." the text may be off some on these I apologize if that is the
> case.
> So, I turned this off and well it was better for a couple of hours and
> then it was back to the same old problems no mail showing up. can't
> change to a different folder.
> Although I do get a new error dialog more often, "Can't refresh folder,"
> and a few "Could not contact server", "lost contact with backend
> exchange process", but these do not all of these require restarts.
> Filters on exchange 2.12.0 seem to have stopped working whereas they
> worked on 2.8, but that was much worse about staying connected and
> getting new mail.
> 
> Then I submit questions and get no answers, but, I have found out that
> if I submit a slightly wrong answer for somebody I do generate replies,
> and I appreciate Patrick correcting my mistakes, I will not make the
> same ones again.

I'm not an Evo devel, just a user of several years' experience with this
software. I generally butt in when I happen to know the answer or see
some ambiguity in someone else's. Sorry if that's irritating at times,
but I know what it's like to ask questions and get no answers. I posted
one a while back about periodic freezing of the Evo UI, which I would
have expected to generate some reaction, but either no-one else is
seeing this, or I wasn't sufficiently clear, or there isn't enough data
for a meaningful answer. In any case it's still happening, literally
while I type this.

What you might try doing is setting "export CAMEL_DEBUG=all" and running
Evo from the command line. That will generate many many debug messages
which might help to track down the problem.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Todd Ness
You are right again. my personal wrapper was getting executed when I was
running and it of course was not forwarding the command line args to
the /usr/bin/evolution, so at any rate the next 3 times the UI hung I
was just restarting the UI and not the background processes which made
it fail even more frequently and eventually would not start at all.

I have added the DEBUG option as well, and maybe a developer might ask
for something to figure out this problem. 

it is sad to think that MS might make a better exchange mail tool with
the release of the full feature browser client for FireFox in exchange
2007.

> AFAIK "--force-shutdown" does not restart Evo automatically. I've
> certainly never seen it do this. It justs shuts it down.
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Re: [Evolution] Bug

2007-10-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:23 -0400, Rob Cambra wrote:
> For instance, when a user receives an HTML message with graphics and
> other content fetched from Internet locations, the reading pane (lower
> right pane) freezes.

I'm not sure this is really the problem.  By default Evo doesn't fetch
any images or content, so unless your users have enabled that to happen
by default (why?!?!) it shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe you're seeing this bug:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435620

I still run into this in Evo 2.12; it would be nice if someone fixed it.
There should be plenty of info in the bug and attached emails to allow
it to be reproduced and fixed.  The problem might be in gtkhtml though,
not Evo per se.  Note that in order to be this bug, the CPU must be
active while Evo tries to display the message.  If the CPU is idle it's
something else (you didn't mention either way).


Other than that and a few other small glitches Evo 2.12 has been easy to
upgrade to and works better than previous releases.  I do get occasional
hangs for no apparent reason (no CPU overload), but they don't last that
long.

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