[Evolution] spam filter or not to spam filter

2007-07-03 Thread michael
When I first start evolution and it fetches new mail from 6 accounts, it
seems that often not all new emails are checked for spam. For example,
if I later select a bunch of new emails and manually "check for junk"
then indeed many of the new emails are flagged as spam.

I'm running Evolution 2.6.3 under Debian (seems to happen for both
'etch' and 'unstable')

I've had a quick look in /var/log/syslog but nothing jumps out as to why
this may be happening.

All suggestions welcome.
Thanks, Michael

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Re: [Evolution] spam filter or not to spam filter

2007-07-03 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 10:12 +0100, michael wrote:
> When I first start evolution and it fetches new mail from 6 accounts, it
> seems that often not all new emails are checked for spam. For example,
> if I later select a bunch of new emails and manually "check for junk"
> then indeed many of the new emails are flagged as spam.
> 
> I'm running Evolution 2.6.3 under Debian (seems to happen for both
> 'etch' and 'unstable')
> 

I seem to write this a lot here! :

Only "new" mail is filtered - "new" is not the same as "unread".  If
another program or email application has already "seen" the mail, then
that mail is no longer "new" according to the IMAP specs, and so since
it isn't flagged as "new", Evo doesn't filter it.  The "other program"
may be another email application or web mail interface, or it may even
be a mail notification applet somewhere.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Crashes on Global Contact lookups

2007-07-03 Thread Hans van der Merwe

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 08:29 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 15:54 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> > How do I debug crashes involving Contact lookups (Global Address Book on
> > exchange)?
> > 
> > I have Evo 2.8.3 and E2K_DEBUG on 4, but I can't seem to see where it
> > crashes or why.
> > It also doesn't crash repeatably - seem to be a timing thing.
> > 
> Have you got bug-buddy installed?  Most of the time, E2K_DEBUG traces
> are used for verifying/debugging server communication part and not
> crashes.
> 
> If you have debug symbols installed,

How do I do that?




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Re: [Evolution] Crashes on Global Contact lookups

2007-07-03 Thread Hans van der Merwe

On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 04:57 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 12:39 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 08:29 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 15:54 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> > > > How do I debug crashes involving Contact lookups (Global Address Book on
> > > > exchange)?
> > > > 
> > > > I have Evo 2.8.3 and E2K_DEBUG on 4, but I can't seem to see where it
> > > > crashes or why.
> > > > It also doesn't crash repeatably - seem to be a timing thing.
> > > > 
> > > Have you got bug-buddy installed?  Most of the time, E2K_DEBUG traces
> > > are used for verifying/debugging server communication part and not
> > > crashes.
> > > 
> > > If you have debug symbols installed,
> > 
> > How do I do that?
> Which distro do you use?  Install debuginfo packages for Evolution,
> Evolution-data-server, Evolution-exchange, gtkhtml and libsoup.  Check
> whether you have bug-buddy package installed, if not install it.
> 
> Now, run evolution and whenever you get a crash, bug-buddy will pop-up
> and gather the stack trace from there and file a bug in
> bugzilla.gnome.org.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> V. Varadhan

Using openSUSE 10.2 - will do, thanks





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Re: [Evolution] spam filter or not to spam filter

2007-07-03 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 10:12 +0100, michael wrote:
> When I first start evolution and it fetches new mail from 6 accounts, it
> seems that often not all new emails are checked for spam. For example,
> if I later select a bunch of new emails and manually "check for junk"
> then indeed many of the new emails are flagged as spam.
> 
> I'm running Evolution 2.6.3 under Debian (seems to happen for both
> 'etch' and 'unstable')
> 
> I've had a quick look in /var/log/syslog but nothing jumps out as to why
> this may be happening.
> 
> All suggestions welcome.
> Thanks, Michael
> 

I've seen this too.  It seems to happen for me when evo learns about new
messages while writing inbox state during a shutdown.  It doesn't scan
those messages for junk (or run any other kind of filter on them) but
they're no longer marked as new when evo starts up again.

If I don't have my Inbox selected when I shut down, then I don't have
the problem, because the inbox had it's state written when I switched
folders.  Since I rarely shut down evo, and rarely have my inbox
selected (most of my mail gets filtered into local folders), it rarely
happens to me.  I can imagine that, if you start  and stop evo a lot, or
you mostly work in your inbox, then you'll have this problem a lot.

Probably the solution is for evo to either not scan for new messages
when shutting down, or do the full filter run on them before actually
shutting down.  Probably the former, since evo takes a long time to shut
down already.

Daniel

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Re: [Evolution] spam filter or not to spam filter

2007-07-03 Thread michael
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 10:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 10:12 +0100, michael wrote:
> > When I first start evolution and it fetches new mail from 6 accounts, it
> > seems that often not all new emails are checked for spam. For example,
> > if I later select a bunch of new emails and manually "check for junk"
> > then indeed many of the new emails are flagged as spam.
> > 
> > I'm running Evolution 2.6.3 under Debian (seems to happen for both
> > 'etch' and 'unstable')
> > 
> 
> I seem to write this a lot here! :
> 
> Only "new" mail is filtered - "new" is not the same as "unread".  If
> another program or email application has already "seen" the mail, then
> that mail is no longer "new" according to the IMAP specs, and so since
> it isn't flagged as "new", Evo doesn't filter it.  The "other program"
> may be another email application or web mail interface, or it may even
> be a mail notification applet somewhere.
> 
> P.


Daniel & Pete,
Firstly thanks for the replies.
But to clarify, I'm not talking about shutting down Evo at all. I'm
talking about (eg) when I first fire it up in the morning. What I seeing
is Evo (inc spam filter) running. No other web browsers reading the
email. So I would think the unread email is indeed new... so shouldn't
it be being filtered?

I was wondering if it was spamd that somehow was either timing out or
only checking a max number of emails or something like that... but I'm
not sure how to check this in order to eliminate that...

Thanks, Michael

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Re: [Evolution] A couple of problems I have with Evo 2.8.0

2007-07-03 Thread Internaut at Large
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 13:25 -0700, Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
> I'm running CentOS 5 with the L&G incorporated build of Evolution -
> 2.8.0.  I have a couple of problems I was hoping someone could help
> with:
> 
> 1) The worst one: that 4.4/4.5 release of CentOS (RHEL) had an
> Evolution wherein there was a button on the button bar (for lack of a
> better term) that allowed me to move messages to a folder.  Now there
> isn't one.  I have to right click the item (or list of selected items)
> to get a submenu that offers this option.  Is there another way to do
> this or is there a way I can put that button back on the bar? 

I add the following to evolution-mail-message.xml:
425,428d424
<   
< 

Unfortunately, I have to do so every time I upgrade ... 

-dkap



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