[Evolution] E-mail tracking - workflow inquiry

2007-05-09 Thread Javier Kohen
I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 and I'd like to hear the community's view on
best practices for my current workflow.

In particular, I would like to hear how you keep all your pending e-mail
at a glance. That is, how you track unread e-mail (this one is easy by
default), but also e-mail you have read, but still need to act upon. For
instance, sometimes I need to reply to an e-mail, but I have to wait to
get some information from a third-party, or I'm waiting for an answer to
an e-mail and I don't want to forget, or I need to work on a request and
then get back to the sender. I like to keep these e-mails handy until I
can fully process them.

I receive e-mail from several e-mail accounts through POP3 and local
delivery. E-mail is moved to different folders according to mailing list
and source account; I leave the main inbox for personal e-mail and have
a subfolder for my corporate e-mail. I don't have any remote folders at
the time.

I used to mark pending e-mail as unread, but that proved unmanageable
whenever I had 30 of those and new e-mail arrived. I would accidentally
mark some as read, or miss _really_ unread incoming e-mail.

Currently, I have created a virtual folder so I can track the e-mail
that I haven't read and that is pending a response. The folder groups
unread messages, messages I mark with with the Important tag, those
marked as "Follow Up" and last those with the "Pending task" label. I
spend about 95% of the time I use Evolution in that folder, leaving
aside mail reading and composing, of course.

My current workflow works, but I'm having a problem that makes me
question this approach. Namely the fact that Evolution allocates several
hundreds of megabytes for its process. More so if you include EDS. I've
read that virtual folders could be the origin of the huge memory usage,
so I'm trying to get rid of them or, at least, avoid having a single
virtual folder that pulls all the mailboxes.

Looking forward to your input.
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Re: [Evolution] E-mail tracking - workflow inquiry

2007-05-09 Thread Robin Laing
Javier Kohen wrote:
> I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 and I'd like to hear the community's view on
> best practices for my current workflow.
> 
> In particular, I would like to hear how you keep all your pending e-mail
> at a glance. That is, how you track unread e-mail (this one is easy by
> default), but also e-mail you have read, but still need to act upon. For
> instance, sometimes I need to reply to an e-mail, but I have to wait to
> get some information from a third-party, or I'm waiting for an answer to
> an e-mail and I don't want to forget, or I need to work on a request and
> then get back to the sender. I like to keep these e-mails handy until I
> can fully process them.
> 
> I receive e-mail from several e-mail accounts through POP3 and local
> delivery. E-mail is moved to different folders according to mailing list
> and source account; I leave the main inbox for personal e-mail and have
> a subfolder for my corporate e-mail. I don't have any remote folders at
> the time.
> 
> I used to mark pending e-mail as unread, but that proved unmanageable
> whenever I had 30 of those and new e-mail arrived. I would accidentally
> mark some as read, or miss _really_ unread incoming e-mail.
> 
> Currently, I have created a virtual folder so I can track the e-mail
> that I haven't read and that is pending a response. The folder groups
> unread messages, messages I mark with with the Important tag, those
> marked as "Follow Up" and last those with the "Pending task" label. I
> spend about 95% of the time I use Evolution in that folder, leaving
> aside mail reading and composing, of course.
> 
> My current workflow works, but I'm having a problem that makes me
> question this approach. Namely the fact that Evolution allocates several
> hundreds of megabytes for its process. More so if you include EDS. I've
> read that virtual folders could be the origin of the huge memory usage,
> so I'm trying to get rid of them or, at least, avoid having a single
> virtual folder that pulls all the mailboxes.
> 
> Looking forward to your input.
> 
> 

One of the features I miss from Thunderbird is Tags.  The ability to 
mark messages in different ways to know what needs to be done.  It is 
easy looking at my inbox for a message heading that is a different 
colour.  Also the ability to sort by the tags.

I have yet to try TB 2 that is supposed to allow multiple tags per message.

Combine this with individual folders, auto tagging filters and it is 
almost heaven.

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Re: [Evolution] E-mail tracking - workflow inquiry

2007-05-09 Thread Sankar P
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:40 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> Javier Kohen wrote:
> > I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 and I'd like to hear the community's view on
> > best practices for my current workflow.
> > 
> > In particular, I would like to hear how you keep all your pending e-mail
> > at a glance. That is, how you track unread e-mail (this one is easy by
> > default), but also e-mail you have read, but still need to act upon. For
> > instance, sometimes I need to reply to an e-mail, but I have to wait to
> > get some information from a third-party, or I'm waiting for an answer to
> > an e-mail and I don't want to forget, or I need to work on a request and
> > then get back to the sender. I like to keep these e-mails handy until I
> > can fully process them.
> > 
> > I receive e-mail from several e-mail accounts through POP3 and local
> > delivery. E-mail is moved to different folders according to mailing list
> > and source account; I leave the main inbox for personal e-mail and have
> > a subfolder for my corporate e-mail. I don't have any remote folders at
> > the time.
> > 
> > I used to mark pending e-mail as unread, but that proved unmanageable
> > whenever I had 30 of those and new e-mail arrived. I would accidentally
> > mark some as read, or miss _really_ unread incoming e-mail.
> > 
> > Currently, I have created a virtual folder so I can track the e-mail
> > that I haven't read and that is pending a response. The folder groups
> > unread messages, messages I mark with with the Important tag, those
> > marked as "Follow Up" and last those with the "Pending task" label. I
> > spend about 95% of the time I use Evolution in that folder, leaving
> > aside mail reading and composing, of course.
> > 
> > My current workflow works, but I'm having a problem that makes me
> > question this approach. Namely the fact that Evolution allocates several
> > hundreds of megabytes for its process. More so if you include EDS. I've
> > read that virtual folders could be the origin of the huge memory usage,
> > so I'm trying to get rid of them or, at least, avoid having a single
> > virtual folder that pulls all the mailboxes.
> > 
> > Looking forward to your input.
> > 
> > 
> 
> One of the features I miss from Thunderbird is Tags.  The ability to 
> mark messages in different ways to know what needs to be done.  It is 
> easy looking at my inbox for a message heading that is a different 
> colour.  Also the ability to sort by the tags.
> 
> I have yet to try TB 2 that is supposed to allow multiple tags per message.
> 
> Combine this with individual folders, auto tagging filters and it is 
> almost heaven.

I started some work on supporting multiple labels per message and the
ability to add new labels as well. I couldn't complete the syncing of
new flags alone (instead of all the flags) to server, because of some
other high-priority work. You will be getting this soon (hopefully in
the 2.11.X cycle).


> 
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Re: [Evolution] E-mail tracking - workflow inquiry

2007-05-09 Thread Brett Johnson
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:17 +, Javier Kohen wrote: 
> In particular, I would like to hear how you keep all your pending e-mail
> at a glance. That is, how you track unread e-mail (this one is easy by
> default), but also e-mail you have read, but still need to act upon.

I use a two-bit system :o)

First, I have a custom sort on my inbox view, which sorts on the
"Important" IMAP attribute, and the "Followup" evolution flag first.
Then if I need to respond to an email eventually, I'll right-click on
the message and select "Mark for followup...".  Sometimes I'll also
select "Mark as important" to flag messages as well.  The "important"
attribute is nice because it's an IMAP attribute, which means it's
stored on the server, which means it'll be there when you connect from a
different client.  The "followup" flag is only local to the current
evolution instance.

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Re: [Evolution] E-mail tracking - workflow inquiry

2007-05-09 Thread Javier Kohen
El mié, 09-05-2007 a las 10:55 -0600, Brett Johnson escribió:
> On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:17 +, Javier Kohen wrote: 
> > In particular, I would like to hear how you keep all your pending e-mail
> > at a glance. That is, how you track unread e-mail (this one is easy by
> > default), but also e-mail you have read, but still need to act upon.
> 
> I use a two-bit system :o)
> 
> First, I have a custom sort on my inbox view, which sorts on the
> "Important" IMAP attribute, and the "Followup" evolution flag first.
> Then if I need to respond to an email eventually, I'll right-click on
> the message and select "Mark for followup...".  Sometimes I'll also
> select "Mark as important" to flag messages as well.  The "important"
> attribute is nice because it's an IMAP attribute, which means it's
> stored on the server, which means it'll be there when you connect from a
> different client.  The "followup" flag is only local to the current
> evolution instance.

Well, this is what my current workflow looks like, only that I need to
work with two inbox folders (personal and work) and several mailing
lists, whose messages are sorted by different filters into corresponding
folders.

Assuming that you also sort your e-mail in folders according to source,
or projects, or mailing lists, or any other criteria, how do you scale
your two-bit system to cope with multiple folders?

Thanks,
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Re: [Evolution] E-mail tracking - workflow inquiry

2007-05-09 Thread Alpár Jüttner
A related question:

Is it possible to create a search folder showing all messages that are
marked for "Follow Up" but not marked as "Completed"?

Thanks,
Alpar

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[Evolution] evolution froze

2007-05-09 Thread Emmanuele Salvati

hi all,

since yesterday I am having big trouble with evolution:
I start it, it hangs right away and I see a message saying:

unable to retrieve message: interrupted system call
and it starts using all the cpu and the fan starts running.
I use ubuntu 7.04 on a macbook.
yesterday I was running evolution and it suddendly hung.
I killed it and since then I am no longer able to use it.
I am able to do nothing but kill it with top.
I also tried to apt-get remove it and reinstall it, but nothing.
I removed ${HOME}.evolution/cache but nothing.
any suggestions ?

thank you,
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