Re: [Evolution] DST

2007-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 00:50 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> On 3/25/07, Matthew Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Newer stable releases of Evoluton tend to utilize newer features of the
> > GNOME developer platform as they become available.  Upgrading from older
> > stable versions will likely require you to also upgrade GNOME's core
> > libraries such as GTK+ and GLib.  A decent packaging system should be
> > able to handle the transition smoothly.  I wouldn't advise trying to do
> > it manually.
> 
> so, are you suggesting that with RH enterprise desktop, that going
> from one version of evo to another is possible and that RH provides
> packages to do this?

FYI, the latest Evo RPMs on Fedora 6 (stable) are for 2.8.3. If you go
for the development version (essentially a beta of Fedora 7) you have to
update a large number of Gnome packages, which in turn triggers updates
to stuff that has nothing to do with Evo.

Personally, I just recompile from the tarballs (it's not hard if you
follow the README) and run Evo 2.10 quite happily on my Fedora 6 KDE
desktop. I don't use Garnome or jbuild precisely because they
enthusiastically recompile over 30 other packages which I don't care
about.

However I do appreciate the point you raise about supporting a large set
of users; I certainly wouldn't want to do this in that case.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] problem witch GPG mail encryption (version 2.10.0)

2007-03-26 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 14:51 +0200, Ondrej Vesely wrote:
> 
> The numbering is  added by me.
> I think, that the problem is that public key is not found although
> command " gpg --list-keys" tells me that my keys are correctly
> installed. Do you have any ideas, how to make encryption working? File
> encryption provided by seahorse integration with nautilus works fine. 

You need the public key of the person to whom you're trying to send the
mail.

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Re: [Evolution] DST

2007-03-26 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 07:49 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 00:50 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> > so, are you suggesting that with RH enterprise desktop, that going
> > from one version of evo to another is possible and that RH provides
> > packages to do this?

No.  RHEL 5 is branched from the initial release of Fedora Core 6, and
as such provides GNOME 2.16.0, which includes Evolution 2.8.0.  But we
support those versions for the lifetime of the RHEL release.  I, for
example, am still supporting Evolution 2.0.2 in RHEL 4.

Exceptions to the rule have been made, however, and there is some talk
of whether it would make sense to upgrade the major desktop applications
(Firefox, OpenOffice, and Evolution) at some point before RHEL 6.  I'm
in favor of that; it would make my job easier.  But nothing official has
been decided.


> FYI, the latest Evo RPMs on Fedora 6 (stable) are for 2.8.3. If you go
> for the development version (essentially a beta of Fedora 7) you have
> to update a large number of Gnome packages, which in turn triggers
> updates to stuff that has nothing to do with Evo.

Given that RHEL 5 uses yum now, upgrading Evolution at your own risk
might be as easy as pointing it to a Fedora repository.  But Patrick is
right about the dependencies and obviously we don't support that.

Matthew Barnes

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[Evolution] Evolution and attachment names

2007-03-26 Thread Marcus Senna Borges de Barros
Hello there,

I am using Evolution 2.8.1 on Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) to connect to an
Exchange Server, and I've noticed that whenever you attach a file whose
name contains accented characters, the Outlook users receive the
attachment as att.dat (for instance, at243765.dat), and
therefore they are not able to open it directly within Outlook. The only
way to access the information is to save and rename the file (if you
know what kind of file it is).

I doesn't happen in the opposite direction (Outlook -> Evolution).
Evolution is able to display the accented characters normally.

Has anybody gone through this? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
 

Marcus
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Re: [Evolution] DST

2007-03-26 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 3/26/07, Matthew Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Exceptions to the rule have been made, however, and there is some talk
> of whether it would make sense to upgrade the major desktop applications
> (Firefox, OpenOffice, and Evolution) at some point before RHEL 6.  I'm
> in favor of that; it would make my job easier.  But nothing official has
> been decided.

OK, so the situations are analagous.

I guess then, from my perspective (being a reseller/integrator trying
to develop linux desktop offerings for customers) I would certainly
vote to enable upgrade of "the major desktop applications" within
versions. SUSE supports SLED for 5 years.

That is a whale of a long time to expect staying at the same version
for all of these apps. In fact, it almost seems ridiculous to even
contemplate it.

I can understand that only a few apps could be consistently upgraded
over the life of the distro ... otherwise there would never be a new
distro version, just updating the existing one. But at the same time,
if customers have elected the stabilitiy of a distro supported for 5
years, that does not mean that they would willingly choose a
commitment to outdated desktop applications.

Anyway, thanx for clarifying ... it does appear as though this *could*
be possible (ie upgrading SLED evo to newest version) but it is not
trivial ...

I do wish evo was a little less dependant on gnome parts ...

Peter
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Re: [Evolution] DST

2007-03-26 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 08:15 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> OK, so the situations are analagous.
> 
> I guess then, from my perspective (being a reseller/integrator trying
> to develop linux desktop offerings for customers) I would certainly
> vote to enable upgrade of "the major desktop applications" within
> versions. SUSE supports SLED for 5 years.
> 
> That is a whale of a long time to expect staying at the same version
> for all of these apps. In fact, it almost seems ridiculous to even
> contemplate it.
> 
> I can understand that only a few apps could be consistently upgraded
> over the life of the distro ... otherwise there would never be a new
> distro version, just updating the existing one. But at the same time,
> if customers have elected the stabilitiy of a distro supported for 5
> years, that does not mean that they would willingly choose a
> commitment to outdated desktop applications.

Newer versions of RHEL and (I believe) SLED are released long before the
support period for the previous version expires.  The period between
RHEL releases is about two years, even though we support a particular
release (to varying degrees) for seven.  This give enterprises the
option to upgrade when *they're* ready.  We still provide bug fixes for
RHEL 4 and security updates (and, it turns out, DST updates) for RHEL 3.

I assume SUSE uses a similar model for SLED.

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution and attachment names

2007-03-26 Thread Ritesh Khadgaray
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 12:50 +, Marcus Senna Borges de Barros wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> I am using Evolution 2.8.1 on Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) to connect to an
> Exchange Server, and I've noticed that whenever you attach a file
> whose name contains accented characters, the Outlook users receive the
> attachment as att.dat (for instance, at243765.dat),
Just curious, what does file  say ?
ms/tnef by any chance ?


>  and therefore they are not able to open it directly within Outlook.
> The only way to access the information is to save and rename the file
> (if you know what kind of file it is).
> 
> I doesn't happen in the opposite direction (Outlook -> Evolution).
> Evolution is able to display the accented characters normally.
> 
> Has anybody gone through this? Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> 
> Marcus
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution and attachment names

2007-03-26 Thread Marcus Senna Borges de Barros

Em Seg, 2007-03-26 às 22:07 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray escreveu:

> On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 12:50 +, Marcus Senna Borges de Barros wrote:
> > Hello there,
> > 
> > I am using Evolution 2.8.1 on Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) to connect to an
> > Exchange Server, and I've noticed that whenever you attach a file
> > whose name contains accented characters, the Outlook users receive the
> > attachment as att.dat (for instance, at243765.dat),
> Just curious, what does file  say ?
> ms/tnef by any chance ?
> 


Couldn't get this information in Outlook, but I've found something
interesting, looking at the Internet header (I changed all references to
IP addresses and machine names for security purposes):

===[ beginning of the header

Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0

Received: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX from YYY.YYY.YYY.YYY
YYY.YYY.YYY.YYY via HTTP with MS-WebStorage 6.0.6249

Received: from XX by XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX; 26 Mar 2007 14:26:32 -0300

Subject: Teste with PDF attachment

From: Marcus Senna Borges de Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: Marcus Senna Borges de Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-OuVjLRx27ClpfYfvShvr"

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:26:31 -0300

Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mime-Version: 1.0

X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2 


--=-OuVjLRx27ClpfYfvShvr

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-akr/NTBmH+RlAmZi1Vlx"


--=-akr/NTBmH+RlAmZi1Vlx

Content-Type: text/plain

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


--=-akr/NTBmH+RlAmZi1Vlx

Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8



--=-akr/NTBmH+RlAmZi1Vlx--

--=-OuVjLRx27ClpfYfvShvr

Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*=ISO-8859-1''Cartilha%20Dom%
E9stica.pdf

Content-Type: application/pdf; name*=ISO-8859-1''Cartilha%20Dom%
E9stica.pdf

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64



--=-OuVjLRx27ClpfYfvShvr--


===[ end of the header


Looks like the file contains the correct name (in this case, it's
"Cartilha Domestica.pdf", with the accented "e"). Somehow, Outlook can
translate it to the correct name. If I open the same email in Evolution,
it gets the right name.


Regards,
 

Marcus.
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