Re: [Evolution] Date Format in Mail View

2006-12-13 Thread Veith, Patrick
Am Mittwoch, den 13.12.2006, 11:42 +0530 schrieb Sankar P: 
> On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 18:49 +0100, Veith, Patrick wrote:
> > snip --- 
> > 1. HH:MM
> > 2. today HH:MM
> > 3. Yesterday HH:MM
> > 4.  HH:MM
> > 5. DD. , 16:35
> > 6.  DD 
> > 
> > This is quite a large list of possible formats, which does not suite my
> > requirements very well. So i searched the ubuntu user groups and tried
> > to find a solution in the internet for a more strict formatting (e.g.
> > only HH:MM-DD.MM.). Is there a way to change the format?
> > 
> > snip ---
> 
> You can create a new view-column, say absolute-date, and display the
> absolute date (without qualifying the date) there.
> 
> The place where the qualification is done is in
> evolution/mail/meesage-list.c:1458 (filter_date)
> 
> 
> > cu
> > 
> > Patrick
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Cool, thanks this sound like the right idea. I will checkout and try to
patch the current cvs version. Right now i just updated myself on the
developer information to be able to keep in line with coding-style etc. 

I will probably go for a -MM-DD HH:MM format as suggested by David
Oxland (I will also look up display in Thunderbird and look up the
mentioned ISO-Standard).

@David Oxland: If you can name the standard, this would be a great help.

(This will take some time so, so please be patient with me.)

Regards,

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[Evolution] Antw: Re: Folder for sent mail?

2006-12-13 Thread Heiko Jansen
Sankar P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, Dez 13, 2006 um  7:01 AM in
Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> When composing a mail KMail offers me the opportunity to decide where to put 
>> the out-copy of that mail (drop-down menu in composer window). I haven t 
>> found that opportunity in Evolution. Instead, every copy is stuffed 
>> indifferently in the same outbox from where I have to copy it manually to 
>> the right folder.
> 
> For GroupWise provider of Evolution, you cannot change the Sent-items
> folder. However, if you are not so specific about sending via GroupWise
> and can use SMTP/Sendmail, you can configure a dummy-account with
> Sending protocol alone set. Then you can choose to configure where you
> want to move the sent items. Edit->Preferences->Edit account->Defaults
> page is where you need too look.

Hmm. Tried that a minute ago (Evo 2.8.2 from openSUSE 10.2).
Created a new SMTP account and send a mail, choosing the new account as origin 
in the composer window. I also chose a folder in the GroupWise account as the 
place where the copy should be stored (entry in the field was 
"groupwise://...").
In the end the mail was send but the copy materialized in the "Sent Mail" folder
under "On this computer"!
If I can t chose a folder from the GroupWise account, then this approach won t
help me to organize all related mails (sent and received) together!?
Or have I just missed something?

Heiko

PS: Is there anything Evolution can do to fix this dumb behaviour of GW, or can 
it only be solved in GW itself?



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[Evolution] Exchange

2006-12-13 Thread Stephens, Bill {PBSG}
I'm unable to authenticate to my exchange.  I've tried the
https://owaserver/exchange/alias and my domain\user and password, but
just keep getting authentication failed.  I'm use open suse 10.2,
evolution-exchange 2.8.2, and have been going through the newsgroups and
googling for a few weeks now, and haven't been successful.  Any
additional hints would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Evolution] Strange behaviour

2006-12-13 Thread Calum Benson
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 07:02 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 13:41 +0530, Srinidhi B S wrote:
> > You have "Caret Mode" enabled. Uncheck View -> Caret Mode or simply
> > press  key, and the preview pane will not scroll down. :)
> > 
> > Faced the same problem this morning and got the fix too. :)
> 
> This bites more people...
> 
> I've been working on a patch that gives a visual indication of when
> Caret mode is enabled.  It displays "Caret" in the mailer's status bar
> with a helpful tooltip, sorta like the way Epiphany does it.  I still
> need to get it working for individual mail message windows.

Wouldn't it be easier just to fix the caret mode behaviour so that it
didn't display messages from the bottom up?  (Unless that's an
accessibility requirement.)

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Re: [Evolution] Antw: Re: Folder for sent mail?

2006-12-13 Thread Sankar P
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:30 +0100, Heiko Jansen wrote:
> Sankar P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, Dez 13, 2006 um  7:01 AM in
> Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >> When composing a mail KMail offers me the opportunity to decide where to 
> >> put 
> >> the out-copy of that mail (drop-down menu in composer window). I haven t 
> >> found that opportunity in Evolution. Instead, every copy is stuffed 
> >> indifferently in the same outbox from where I have to copy it manually to 
> >> the right folder.
> > 
> > For GroupWise provider of Evolution, you cannot change the Sent-items
> > folder. However, if you are not so specific about sending via GroupWise
> > and can use SMTP/Sendmail, you can configure a dummy-account with
> > Sending protocol alone set. Then you can choose to configure where you
> > want to move the sent items. Edit->Preferences->Edit account->Defaults
> > page is where you need too look.
> 
> Hmm. Tried that a minute ago (Evo 2.8.2 from openSUSE 10.2).
> Created a new SMTP account and send a mail, choosing the new account as 
> origin 
> in the composer window. I also chose a folder in the GroupWise account as the 
> place where the copy should be stored (entry in the field was 
> "groupwise://...").
> In the end the mail was send but the copy materialized in the "Sent Mail" 
> folder
> under "On this computer"!
> If I can t chose a folder from the GroupWise account, then this approach won t
> help me to organize all related mails (sent and received) together!?
> Or have I just missed something?

It seems that the GroupWise server supports appending mails only to the
Mailbox folder. So you may have to copy it to MAILBOX and have some
filters to move the mails to desired folders. 

But the best option will be to set up Server-side rules to govern these
and continue using Evoltuion's GroupWise to send mails, as it has some
advantages over SMTP/Sendmail like message-tracking, priority etc.

> 
> Heiko
> 
> PS: Is there anything Evolution can do to fix this dumb behaviour of GW, or 
> can 
> it only be solved in GW itself?
> 
> 

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Re: [Evolution] Exchange

2006-12-13 Thread Peter N. Spotts
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 09:39 -0600, Stephens, Bill {PBSG} wrote:
> I'm unable to authenticate to my exchange.  I've tried the
> https://owaserver/exchange/alias and my domain\user and password, but
> just keep getting authentication failed.  I'm use open suse 10.2,
> evolution-exchange 2.8.2, and have been going through the newsgroups and
> googling for a few weeks now, and haven't been successful.  Any
> additional hints would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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Bill,

Here's how I got my 2.8.2 to worked on our system:

In Evolution, I set up a new account, identifying it as ms exchange,
instead of POP3 etc. Under the "Receiving Email" tab, I used my office
username (your alias?) in the username field, then
https://owaserver/exchange -- no alias after exchange -- in the OWA URL:
field. Because I use Evolution on my personal laptop, which doubles as
my work machine, I made sure to use my office email address in the
appropriate fields under the "Identity" tab. 

After I did all that, I got a folder tree for office email in
Evolution's email-folder pane. And I can click-and-drag the office email
into folders I have under On This Computer, where I archive them.

Pete

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Re: [Evolution] Antw: Re: Folder for sent mail?

2006-12-13 Thread Heiko Jansen
Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 18:40 schrieb Sankar P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[Re: Antw: Re: [Evolution] Folder for sent mail?]:
> It seems that the GroupWise server supports appending mails only to the
> Mailbox folder. So you may have to copy it to MAILBOX and have some
> filters to move the mails to desired folders.
>
> But the best option will be to set up Server-side rules to govern these
> and continue using Evoltuion's GroupWise to send mails, as it has some
> advantages over SMTP/Sendmail like message-tracking, priority etc.

Rules are definitely not a sane option here!
I can´t even imagine how many complex rules I´d need to organize my mails 
correctly. And since they would still be rather imperfect I´d need to check 
the sent-mail folder again and again if something lept through. Also, more 
complex rules mean that it´s more likely that mails get send to the wrong 
folder and are therefore lost (unless I do time consuming searches).
 
I´ll try to use the GW account as IMAP account and forget about 
the "advanced stuff" since that´s something I´d use only once in a while 
while on the other hand I constantly need to have an overview what happens 
on certain topics, with certain communication partners etc.
Hope that works together with still using GW for contacts, calender and the 
like.
In KDE Kontact that´s how it works right now, but the GW intergration for 
the other features (calendar etc.) is less mature than in Evo.

I must say that I´m very much disappointed with GroupWise here.

Heiko
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Re: [Evolution] Date Format in Mail View

2006-12-13 Thread Robin Laing
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 09:26 +0100, Veith, Patrick wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 13.12.2006, 11:42 +0530 schrieb Sankar P: 
> > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 18:49 +0100, Veith, Patrick wrote:
> > > snip --- 
> > > 1. HH:MM
> > > 2. today HH:MM
> > > 3. Yesterday HH:MM
> > > 4.  HH:MM
> > > 5. DD. , 16:35
> > > 6.  DD 
> > > 
> > > This is quite a large list of possible formats, which does not suite my
> > > requirements very well. So i searched the ubuntu user groups and tried
> > > to find a solution in the internet for a more strict formatting (e.g.
> > > only HH:MM-DD.MM.). Is there a way to change the format?
> > > 
> > > snip ---
> > 
> > You can create a new view-column, say absolute-date, and display the
> > absolute date (without qualifying the date) there.
> > 
> > The place where the qualification is done is in
> > evolution/mail/meesage-list.c:1458 (filter_date)
> > 
> > 
> > > cu
> > > 
> > > Patrick
> > > ___
> > > Evolution-list mailing list
> > > Evolution-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
> 
> Cool, thanks this sound like the right idea. I will checkout and try to
> patch the current cvs version. Right now i just updated myself on the
> developer information to be able to keep in line with coding-style etc. 
> 
> I will probably go for a -MM-DD HH:MM format as suggested by David
> Oxland (I will also look up display in Thunderbird and look up the
> mentioned ISO-Standard).
> 
> @David Oxland: If you can name the standard, this would be a great help.
> 
> (This will take some time so, so please be patient with me.)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Patrick

Hi Patrick,

The ISO standard is ISO 8601:2004.
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/popstds/datesandtime.html

http://www.probabilityof.com/ISO8601.shtml


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Re: [Evolution] Moving Evo from one HDD to another

2006-12-13 Thread Robin Laing
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:46 +1100, Andrew Cowie wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 23:58 +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: 
> > I have tried to get my .evolution file to the new drive
> 
> The only thing that I've ever found that's reliable is to Log Out of
> GNOME, and then from a console vt run rsync to push my entire home
> directory from one box to the other. Anything short of that missed
> settings and worse would corrupt your address book because
> evolution-data-server hadn't safely close down.
> 
> I actually use this quite successfully presently to pass my environment
> between desktop and laptop. Of course, there's the restriction that I
> only use one at a time, but hey. If I'm moving to my laptop it's cause
> I'm going out/abroad/whatever, so it doesn't matter.
> 
> Script with the rsync command line attached in case anyone is
> interested.
> 
> AfC
> Sydney
> 

As closing evolution doesn't close all the background processes that it
starts, I have had to start running "pkill evolution" every time.  What
a pain.

Use pkill or kill to ensure that evolution is stopped.

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Re: [Evolution] Moving Evo from one HDD to another

2006-12-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:48 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:46 +1100, Andrew Cowie wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 23:58 +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: 
> > > I have tried to get my .evolution file to the new drive
> > 
> > The only thing that I've ever found that's reliable is to Log Out of
> > GNOME, and then from a console vt run rsync to push my entire home
> > directory from one box to the other. Anything short of that missed
> > settings and worse would corrupt your address book because
> > evolution-data-server hadn't safely close down.
> > 
> > I actually use this quite successfully presently to pass my environment
> > between desktop and laptop. Of course, there's the restriction that I
> > only use one at a time, but hey. If I'm moving to my laptop it's cause
> > I'm going out/abroad/whatever, so it doesn't matter.
> > 
> > Script with the rsync command line attached in case anyone is
> > interested.
> > 
> > AfC
> > Sydney
> > 
> 
> As closing evolution doesn't close all the background processes that it
> starts, I have had to start running "pkill evolution" every time.  What
> a pain.
> 
> Use pkill or kill to ensure that evolution is stopped.

I second that. Even "evolution --force-shutdown" can leave processes
lying around.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Antw: Re: Folder for sent mail?

2006-12-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 18:57 +0100, Heiko Jansen wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 18:40 schrieb Sankar P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> [Re: Antw: Re: [Evolution] Folder for sent mail?]:
> > It seems that the GroupWise server supports appending mails only to the
> > Mailbox folder. So you may have to copy it to MAILBOX and have some
> > filters to move the mails to desired folders.
> >
> > But the best option will be to set up Server-side rules to govern these
> > and continue using Evoltuion's GroupWise to send mails, as it has some
> > advantages over SMTP/Sendmail like message-tracking, priority etc.
> 
> Rules are definitely not a sane option here!
> I can´t even imagine how many complex rules I´d need to organize my mails 
> correctly. And since they would still be rather imperfect I´d need to check 
> the sent-mail folder again and again if something lept through. Also, more 
> complex rules mean that it´s more likely that mails get send to the wrong 
> folder and are therefore lost (unless I do time consuming searches).

Alternatively (and more reliably IMHO), set up virtual folders for your
most common correspondents, defining the search criteria as From, To or
CC. This works as far as it goes, but of course doesn't scale as easily
as the Kmail way since there's more work involved in setting it up for
each correspondent.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Exchange

2006-12-13 Thread Ted Rodriguez-Bell
Bill Stephens writes:
> I'm unable to authenticate to my exchange.  I've tried the
> https://owaserver/exchange/alias and my domain\user and password, but
> just keep getting authentication failed.  I'm use open suse 10.2,
> evolution-exchange 2.8.2, and have been going through the newsgroups and
> googling for a few weeks now, and haven't been successful.  Any
> additional hints would be greatly appreciated.
> 

If the alias and the user name are different, Evolution can't do it.  It
used to (I'm writing this with 2.0.4, which can), but this feature
stopped working in 2.2.  There's a bug filed (273627) but it hasn't been
fixed.  I'm still using Fedora Core 3 on my work laptop because I want
to keep using Evolution, and that's the best solution I can offer.

See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273627

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[Evolution] More "Exchange" (Receipts)

2006-12-13 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hello everyone,

I'm doing some tests with the "return receipt' feature and today I used MS 
Outlook to test this feature. It turns out that Microsoft Outlook also has 
the option to prompt you what you want to do when someone requests a receipt.  
When you click "don't send" it won't send it.  Evolution also prompts you but 
it will send the receipt whatever your option is (of course, using the 
connector).  Is this a known bug? Is it already fixed in the newest version? 

Thanks!
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Re: [Evolution] Antw: Re: Folder for sent mail?

2006-12-13 Thread Sankar P
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 15:03 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 18:57 +0100, Heiko Jansen wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 18:40 schrieb Sankar P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > [Re: Antw: Re: [Evolution] Folder for sent mail?]:
> > > It seems that the GroupWise server supports appending mails only to the
> > > Mailbox folder. So you may have to copy it to MAILBOX and have some
> > > filters to move the mails to desired folders.
> > >
> > > But the best option will be to set up Server-side rules to govern these
> > > and continue using Evoltuion's GroupWise to send mails, as it has some
> > > advantages over SMTP/Sendmail like message-tracking, priority etc.
> > 
> > Rules are definitely not a sane option here!
> > I can´t even imagine how many complex rules I´d need to organize my mails 
> > correctly. And since they would still be rather imperfect I´d need to check 
> > the sent-mail folder again and again if something lept through. Also, more 
> > complex rules mean that it´s more likely that mails get send to the wrong 
> > folder and are therefore lost (unless I do time consuming searches).
> 
> Alternatively (and more reliably IMHO), set up virtual folders for your
> most common correspondents, defining the search criteria as From, To or
> CC. This works as far as it goes, but of course doesn't scale as easily
> as the Kmail way since there's more work involved in setting it up for
> each correspondent.

Instead of manually setting up the vFolders, you can use "vFolder on
Sender" from Message menu, to make it (a little) easier.

> 
> poc
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Re: [Evolution] More "Exchange" (Receipts)

2006-12-13 Thread Sankar P
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 20:32 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm doing some tests with the "return receipt' feature and today I used MS 
> Outlook to test this feature. It turns out that Microsoft Outlook also has 
> the option to prompt you what you want to do when someone requests a receipt. 
>  
> When you click "don't send" it won't send it.  Evolution also prompts you but 
> it will send the receipt whatever your option is (of course, using the 
> connector).  Is this a known bug? Is it already fixed in the newest version? 

It is a known bug. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331969 
It is not yet fixed. 

> 
> Thanks!
> Jorge
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Re: [Evolution] More "Exchange" (Receipts)

2006-12-13 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 11:07 pm, Sankar P wrote:
> It is a known bug. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331969
> It is not yet fixed.


Right on!  Thanks Sankar.  Exactly what I wanted to know.

Regards,
Jorge
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Re: [Evolution] More "Exchange" (Receipts)

2006-12-13 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 11:07 pm, Sankar P wrote:
> It is a known bug. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331969
> It is not yet fixed.

Ahhh I see the bug is assigned to you!   Could you please tell us about the 
progress? Do you think it will be fixed in the near furture? Is it a tough 
issue to solve? Is Microsoft collaborating with you? 

I'll appreciate your comments.

Thanks in advance.
Jorge
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