[Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread Lynda Metref
Hi everyone!

I use evolution on my laptop (Ubuntu breezy) and I want to send email from
my work and also from home. The point is that I cannot use the same smtp
server at the two places. I have several email account configured, and I
send mails from all account in the two place (work and home).

Now I need to change manually the smtp server almost each time I want to
send an email... it's a little bit annoying... Is there a way to configure
several smtp server for all accounts at the same time (the smtp server
should depend on your Internet config not on your email identity)?

Thanks

Lynda

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Re: [Evolution] Arrow keys vs mouse navigation

2005-11-14 Thread Parthasarathi Susarla
On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 14:51 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> Why is navigating the message list with the arrow keys so much slower
> than using the mouse?
> 
> When I push the down arrow to go to the mext message it seems like there
> is a delay of about 2 seconds before the focus even moves and the next
> message starts to render.  But if navigate by repeatedly clicking the
> last fully visible message subject in the message list, causing it to
> scroll down by one message, the focus moves and the message renders
> instantaneously.  This makes navigating with the arrow keys
> excruciatingly slow.
> 
> Lee
Its fast enough for me. I mean, i surely dont see a delay, the only
delay ofcourse, is in fetching the message from the server (IMAP).

Cheers,
partha

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Re: [Evolution] Shared folders and synchronization

2005-11-14 Thread Parthasarathi Susarla
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 10:19 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> We recently started using Cyrus shared folders for local mailing lists.
> Evo seems to work fine, except for one detail: if I delete a message in
> a shared folder, Evo will mark it deleted even though the folder does
> not permit deletion. After restarting Evo, the message will again be
> present (i.e. not marked as deleted).
> 
> So obviously Evo doesn't check if the folder permits deletion until it
> tries to update the IMAP folder on quitting. It's not enough just to
> change folders, or hit Send/Receive, or even go Offline and Online. You
> actually have to Quit.
> 
> However if I try to move a message into a shared folder, Evo objects
> immediately with a "Permission Denied" (as it should).
> 
> So I have two comments:
> 
> 1) I don't see why it can't stop me deleting at once, since it has to
> know the shared nature of the folder.
Evo currently does not have the support built-in
> 
> 2) It looks like the *only* way to make sure Evo is completely synched
> with an IMAP server is by quitting and restarting. Is this true?
> 

Actually not. A folder change should sync with the server always.

You could file a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org

Cheers,
partha

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Re: [Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread Greg Tassone
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 21:46 +0800, Lynda Metref wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I use evolution on my laptop (Ubuntu breezy) 

Which version of Evolution is that?


> and I want to send email from
> my work and also from home. The point is that I cannot use the same smtp
> server at the two places. I have several email account configured, and I
> send mails from all account in the two place (work and home).
> 
> Now I need to change manually the smtp server almost each time I want to
> send an email... it's a little bit annoying... 

At least in the 2.2 series of Evolution (which is what I'm using), my
suggestion is to create multiple accounts/configurations for each of the
affected accounts -- e.g., one for work and one for home for each
address.  Use the same E-mail address on both, but only one of them
needs to be configured for incoming mail.  Set each to their respective
outgoing settings (SMTP server, etc.).  Give each of them a good
descriptive name.  Then just pick one or the other at the top of each
E-mail message depending on whether you're at home or at work.

> Is there a way to configure
> several smtp server for all accounts at the same time 

Not that I know of.

> (the smtp server
> should depend on your Internet config not on your email identity)?

Not necessarily.  There are many cases where each identity may require
different outgoing mail settings (SMTP and otherwise).

Greg



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Re: [Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread guenther

> I use evolution on my laptop (Ubuntu breezy) and I want to send email from
> my work and also from home. The point is that I cannot use the same smtp
> server at the two places. I have several email account configured, and I
> send mails from all account in the two place (work and home).
> 
> Now I need to change manually the smtp server almost each time I want to
> send an email... it's a little bit annoying... Is there a way to configure
> several smtp server for all accounts at the same time (the smtp server
> should depend on your Internet config not on your email identity)?

No, any given account can have one SMTP server only. There is no way for
the mail client to determine, which network you are in.

Anyway, there are some possible solutions for this. They all need some
manually tweaking, since *you* can decide which network you are in, but
the the client can't.

a) Use a "made up" alias name as SMTP server, like for example "smtp" or
"smtp.automagic.net". Then add this name to your /etc/hosts file along
with the IP address of the SMTP server you want to use.

b) Change the Evolution account settings using 'gconftool-2'.


The first option can be done during your network gets initialized. Those
scripts already know which network you are in.

Both options can be done at any later time. It's up to you do decide
which network you are in. This can be done automatically, for example
based on your own hostname, your IP address, the default gateway or any
other part of the network that is distinct in both cases.

To automate this process you will need a script, that maybe checks for
the network you are in and then uses one of the options above. If you
need help in this, feel free to ask. However, you should know the
networks you are frequently in.


Unless some stupid admins forgot to offer any way of authentication (the
remote network) or the paranoid admin (local network) simply blocks
outgoing SMTP traffic to servers which are not in his own network, SMTP
authentication is the best way. Unfortunately you did not mention, why
you cannot use the other SMTP server and why you are forced to change
this.

Using SMTP with any kind of authentication, you can use the proper SMTP
for any account regardless of the (local) network you are currently in.

Would this be an option? HTH...

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 14:09 +0100, guenther wrote:
> No, any given account can have one SMTP server only. There is no way for
> the mail client to determine, which network you are in.

Alternatively, you can use the 'sendmail' option in Evolution, and
install an MTA on the laptop. In my case, I have Postfix running, and I
have setup Postfix to try multiple smarthosts. If the first one denies
the message, it'll try the second one. For 'odd' cases, the last one in
the list points to localhost:2525, so I can make an ssh tunnel if all
other smarthosts fail.

Koen
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Re: [Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 06:12 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > At least in the 2.2 series of Evolution (which is what I'm using),
> my
> > suggestion is to create multiple accounts/configurations for each of
> the
> > affected accounts -- e.g., one for work and one for home for each
> > address.  Use the same E-mail address on both, but only one of them
> > needs to be configured for incoming mail.  Set each to their
> respective
> > outgoing settings (SMTP server, etc.).  Give each of them a good
> > descriptive name.  Then just pick one or the other at the top of
> each
> > E-mail message depending on whether you're at home or at work.
> 
> This is the key.  The "pick one" means that in your Compose window,
> the From line is actually a drop-down list, if you have multiple
> mail accounts defined. 

Unfortunately you have to *remember* to pick it every time you send a
message from the non-default address. This is always tripping me up.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images

2005-11-14 Thread George Reeke
Dear Guenther and list,
   The problem with forwarding mail as an attachment is that
you don't get to edit it.  This is unacceptable when dealing
with personal matters and so I do not want it to be my default.
This may be a feature that is needed in a business environment,
but not for personal use.  Similarly with not being able to
edit a message before saving it (for example, to delete long
included threads or other attachments as a previous poster
requested).
   So I do hope the developers will provide a way to allow Evo
to be configured to permit editing of emails before storing and/or
forwarding (I was told in an earlier post that all forwarding
would be as an attachment in future versions).
   If necessary for business users, it would be reasonable
to have this option under root control.
   George

On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 19:38 +0100, guenther wrote:
> > Re the problem I reported on Friday forwarding mail
> > with embedded images (original posting below):
> >It works fine in 2.0.2 if one uses "Forward As-->Attached".
> > It doesn't seem to me that this should be necessary.
> 
> Preferences / Composer Preferences / General / Forward style: Attachment
> 
> Set this to default, and you won't have to manually select it.
> 
> ...guenther
> 
> 

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Re: [Evolution] Shared folders and synchronization

2005-11-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 15:06 +0530, Parthasarathi Susarla wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 10:19 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > We recently started using Cyrus shared folders for local mailing lists.
> > Evo seems to work fine, except for one detail: if I delete a message in
> > a shared folder, Evo will mark it deleted even though the folder does
> > not permit deletion. After restarting Evo, the message will again be
> > present (i.e. not marked as deleted).
> > 
> > So obviously Evo doesn't check if the folder permits deletion until it
> > tries to update the IMAP folder on quitting. It's not enough just to
> > change folders, or hit Send/Receive, or even go Offline and Online. You
> > actually have to Quit.
> > 
> > However if I try to move a message into a shared folder, Evo objects
> > immediately with a "Permission Denied" (as it should).
> > 
> > So I have two comments:
> > 
> > 1) I don't see why it can't stop me deleting at once, since it has to
> > know the shared nature of the folder.
> Evo currently does not have the support built-in
> > 
> > 2) It looks like the *only* way to make sure Evo is completely synched
> > with an IMAP server is by quitting and restarting. Is this true?
> > 
> 
> Actually not. A folder change should sync with the server always.
> 
> You could file a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org

OK, reported as http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321447

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Arrow keys vs mouse navigation

2005-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 14:51 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> Why is navigating the message list with the arrow keys so much slower
> than using the mouse?
> 
> When I push the down arrow to go to the mext message it seems like there
> is a delay of about 2 seconds before the focus even moves and the next
> message starts to render.  But if navigate by repeatedly clicking the
> last fully visible message subject in the message list, causing it to
> scroll down by one message, the focus moves and the message renders
> instantaneously.  This makes navigating with the arrow keys
> excruciatingly slow.

Paucity of details only makes people ignore your question, or 
give meaningless, "well, it works for me" replies.

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Re: [Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 02:45 -0800, Greg Tassone wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 21:46 +0800, Lynda Metref wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> > 
> > I use evolution on my laptop (Ubuntu breezy) 
> 
> Which version of Evolution is that?
> 
> 
> > and I want to send email from
> > my work and also from home. The point is that I cannot use the same smtp
> > server at the two places. I have several email account configured, and I
> > send mails from all account in the two place (work and home).
> > 
> > Now I need to change manually the smtp server almost each time I want to
> > send an email... it's a little bit annoying... 
> 
> At least in the 2.2 series of Evolution (which is what I'm using), my
> suggestion is to create multiple accounts/configurations for each of the
> affected accounts -- e.g., one for work and one for home for each
> address.  Use the same E-mail address on both, but only one of them
> needs to be configured for incoming mail.  Set each to their respective
> outgoing settings (SMTP server, etc.).  Give each of them a good
> descriptive name.  Then just pick one or the other at the top of each
> E-mail message depending on whether you're at home or at work.

This is the key.  The "pick one" means that in your Compose window,
the From line is actually a drop-down list, if you have multiple
mail accounts defined. 


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Re: [Evolution] smtp server config

2005-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 10:12 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 06:12 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > At least in the 2.2 series of Evolution (which is what I'm using),
> > my
> > > suggestion is to create multiple accounts/configurations for each of
> > the
> > > affected accounts -- e.g., one for work and one for home for each
> > > address.  Use the same E-mail address on both, but only one of them
> > > needs to be configured for incoming mail.  Set each to their
> > respective
> > > outgoing settings (SMTP server, etc.).  Give each of them a good
> > > descriptive name.  Then just pick one or the other at the top of
> > each
> > > E-mail message depending on whether you're at home or at work.
> > 
> > This is the key.  The "pick one" means that in your Compose window,
> > the From line is actually a drop-down list, if you have multiple
> > mail accounts defined. 
> 
> Unfortunately you have to *remember* to pick it every time you send a
> message from the non-default address. This is always tripping me up.

Well...

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[Evolution] Exporting Contacts?

2005-11-14 Thread Andrew Greig
Hi All,

How do I go about exporting my Contacts as a CSV list, please? 
Running Evo 2.2.3 Mandriva 2006

Thanks

Andrew

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[Evolution] Problems with cyrillic

2005-11-14 Thread Арангел Ангов
I couldn't find anything in the archive so that's why I decided to write
about it here.

Just started using Evolution some weeks ago. I have the following
problem: 

I have selected UTF-8 in both the Composer and Mail Preferences and
somehow when I send an e-mail, my "Subject" and "From" fields turn into
a bunch of hieroglyphs. For example, I put a subject "тест" which is
"test" but in cyrillic and in the source of the message I get
"?iso-8859-5?Q?=E2=D5=E1=E2?=".

The same thing happens with my name which is also written in cyrillic.

Did someone had problems with this before me? I don't understand why it
converts the charachters into something else when I've only chosen
UTF-8. :\

Anyone?

PS You can see the same stuff if you open the source of this message.
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Re: [Evolution] Arrow keys vs mouse navigation

2005-11-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 06:09 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 14:51 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > Why is navigating the message list with the arrow keys so much slower
> > than using the mouse?
> > 
> > When I push the down arrow to go to the mext message it seems like there
> > is a delay of about 2 seconds before the focus even moves and the next
> > message starts to render.  But if navigate by repeatedly clicking the
> > last fully visible message subject in the message list, causing it to
> > scroll down by one message, the focus moves and the message renders
> > instantaneously.  This makes navigating with the arrow keys
> > excruciatingly slow.
> 
> Paucity of details only makes people ignore your question, or 
> give meaningless, "well, it works for me" replies.
> 

Never mind I think it was an X problem, I can't reproduce it any more.

Lee

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