Re: [Evolution] Pilot synch

2005-11-06 Thread Martin . Bitter
I assume you're using the Tools/Pilot/Sync menu from within EVO.

In my case I had success when - and only when! - I set the conduits anew
every time I use the Pilot.

Maybe that helps.

Regards Martin


Am Donnerstag, den 03.11.2005, 17:27 +1100 schrieb Andrew Greig:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have recently had my notebook and Palm Tungsten stolen, and for the
> moment I need to re-instate my PalmIII, which is a serial device. Set up
> thus:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ll /dev/pilot
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 10 Nov  3 16:04 /dev/pilot -> /dev/ttyS0
> 
> ownership of /dev/ttyS0 is 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ll /dev/ttyS0
> crwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4, 64 Nov  3 17:09 /dev/ttyS0
> 
> I am also a member of the uucp group
> 
> I set up the Pilot to use /dev/pilot
> 
> The Pilot is recognised with my user number being Andrew Greig 7177
> whereas mu ser number in the Mandriva  2006 box is 501 (as usual)
> 
> The sync starts but gets nowhere.  I set the conduits to copy data TO
> the Pilot but the synch operation reports:
> 
> "The connection between your handheld computer and the desktop was lost.
> Some of your data was NOT backed up.
> gnome-pilot v.2.0.13
> On host localhost
> Copy to pilot EAddress"
> 
> I really need to sort this out.  Any help appreciated.
> 
> Andrew Greig
> Melbourne, Australia
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Massive memory leaks..

2005-11-06 Thread guenther

> I run evolution daily at work as well as at home. It seems that every
> day (sometimes twice a day) at work I have to kill evolution because it
> takes way too much of a memory footprint.
> 
> A little about my environment:
> 
> I'm running evolution 2.2.3-2.fc4 from (appropriately) Fedora Core 4
> updates.
> 
> I have two IMAP accounts set up, one goes to my home IMAP server,
> through an ssh proxy tunnel (the tunnel is set up outside of Evolution).
> The other goes to my localhost IMAP server which I have set up.
> Fetchmail brings in my work mail from the work servers to my account. In
> both cases, the IMAP server is dovecot. I have a bunch of vFolders set
> up which span the IMAP accounts. 

> I have forced a (300meg) core dump using kill -SEGV (after disabling the
> bug-buddy dialog) at a time where evolution was consuming upwards of 300
> meg of memory. I am familiar with debugging stack traces from core
> files, but not in debugging leaked memory. If anyone has any
> suggestions, they would be appreciated.

AFAIK the best way to find leaks is using valgrind. Maybe this page will
be useful during your hunt, too:
  http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/bugs.shtml

As you obviously are willing to debug this yourself or at least start
it, the evolution-hackers list might be a place for you to ask.
  http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers


> If anyone would like access to the core file, that can be arranged.
> 
> BTW, I also have similar problems with evolution-data-server, though it
> seems to increase footprint slower, so I only have to kill it every 2-3
> days instead. I figured I'd try to tackle one beast at a time.
> 
> I usually kill these using 'evolution --force-shutdown' if anyone is
> interested (though obviously not in the above core file case).

You are aware that --force-shutdown stops e-d-s as well as any other Evo
related task, including Evolution itself? You can't shutdown Evo only
with that command. Just in case, cause I didn't get which part this
particularly was about.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Re: Saving embedded images

2005-11-06 Thread guenther

> I believe this was mentioned as a bug some time ago, but I don't know if
> anyone's doing something about it...all options for saving embedded
> images from an email in Evolution have now been removed (for some
> reason!) I get several comic digests and I like to save my favourites to
> send to people or archive, and I have no way to do this, not even to
> open them in a browser since the last change. Any ideas/is this being
> looked at?

This works in Evo 2.2.x, so this obviously is a regression since 2.4.

Please file a bug report at bugzilla.gnome.org and mention it's a
regression in the detailed description. Feel free to post the bug number
here. :)

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] IMAP bug in 2.4?

2005-11-06 Thread guenther

> Thanks, that seems to have done it, though I did have to wipe
> my .evolution directory.

Sorry I didn't get back earlier...

I'm not sure, but my first assumption would have been, the IMAP caches
are somehow triggering this. Maybe simply removing the old IMAP cache in
~/.evolution/mail/imap would have solved this already. Just a guess for
the records, though.


> > Close Evolution, then run ($gconftool-2 --recursive-unset 
> > "/apps/evolution") should clear all your personal evolution settings in 
> > gconf, including account settings.

Eeks. Please don't suggest this, unless you are absolutely sure this
will not harm anything else.

Cause it does in a lot of cases. All Address Books, Calendars, etc.
apart from the default "Personal" one are "gone" after that step. The
data itself still is in ~/.evolution without being harmed, but you don't
see them any longer. To get them back in the UI, some manual steps are
necessary (no UI for this). All Categories are dropped from your
Contacts. Again, they still are there physically, but you don't see them
unless you adjust the Category Master List again. To name just a few...


> > I am not sure whether you need to remove .evolution, but you can make a 
> > backup of it first before you remove it.

Backups are always good. :-)  Not only of the data, but settings as
well. 'gconftool-2 --help' is your friend, watch out for --dump and
--load. ;)

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] IMAP bug in 2.4?

2005-11-06 Thread guenther

> This actually wont do anything, it will just delete all of your accounts
> and other settings.  And as a side-effect, as you've discovered, it will
> wreck all of your filters (even if you hadn't have removed .evolution
> they would point to a now-removed account).
> 
> You "just" needed to remove the stuff in
> ~/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/  or maybe even just the one file
> ".ev-store-summary" in that directory.

Doh! I should have a look at all replies, before starting to post...

Glad to see you still being around, Michael. :-)

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] IMAP bug in 2.4?

2005-11-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 16:10 +0100, guenther wrote:
> > Thanks, that seems to have done it, though I did have to wipe
> > my .evolution directory.
> 
> Sorry I didn't get back earlier...
> 
> I'm not sure, but my first assumption would have been, the IMAP caches
> are somehow triggering this. Maybe simply removing the old IMAP cache in
> ~/.evolution/mail/imap would have solved this already. Just a guess for
> the records, though.
> 
> 
> > > Close Evolution, then run ($gconftool-2 --recursive-unset 
> > > "/apps/evolution") should clear all your personal evolution settings in 
> > > gconf, including account settings.
> 
> Eeks. Please don't suggest this, unless you are absolutely sure this
> will not harm anything else.
> 
> Cause it does in a lot of cases. All Address Books, Calendars, etc.
> apart from the default "Personal" one are "gone" after that step. The
> data itself still is in ~/.evolution without being harmed, but you don't
> see them any longer. To get them back in the UI, some manual steps are
> necessary (no UI for this). All Categories are dropped from your
> Contacts. Again, they still are there physically, but you don't see them
> unless you adjust the Category Master List again. To name just a few...
> 
> 
> > > I am not sure whether you need to remove .evolution, but you can make a 
> > > backup of it first before you remove it.
> 
> Backups are always good. :-)  Not only of the data, but settings as
> well. 'gconftool-2 --help' is your friend, watch out for --dump and
> --load. ;)

Luckily I did have a full backup so no harm done.

>A: No.
>Q: Should I put my reply above quoted text?

BTW, your .sig is amusing, but it makes me wonder why Evo doesn't
provide any encouragement for putting replies after text. It puts the
cursor at the beginning, which is just asking for people to do it the
wrong way round (which I confess to doing a lot).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Massive memory leaks..

2005-11-06 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Freitag, den 04.11.2005, 11:15 -0500 schrieb A.G.:
> I'm running evolution 2.2.3-2.fc4 from (appropriately) Fedora Core 4
> 
> I have forced a (300meg) core dump using kill -SEGV
[...]

also be aware that during the last development cycle (from 2.2 to 2.4)
many memory leak fixes have been included, so you perhaps want to test
again with the current evolution 2.4 release or (even better) evolution
cvs head (2.5.x) before writing patches on bugs that perhaps have been
already fixed. :-)

cheers,
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Replying and cursor position (was: Re: [Evolution] IMAP bug in 2.4?)

2005-11-06 Thread guenther

> > Backups are always good. :-)  Not only of the data, but settings as
> > well. 'gconftool-2 --help' is your friend, watch out for --dump and
> > --load. ;)
> 
> Luckily I did have a full backup so no harm done.
> 
> >A: No.
> >Q: Should I put my reply above quoted text?
> 
> BTW, your .sig is amusing, but it makes me wonder why Evo doesn't
> provide any encouragement for putting replies after text. It puts the
> cursor at the beginning, which is just asking for people to do it the
> wrong way round (which I confess to doing a lot).

Well, IMHO whatever way the mailer uses, there are downsides.

If you're replying to your customers, you likely want to put some
greeting line or whatever at the top. This isn't an issue with mailing
lists, though. ;)


Having the cursor at the top sure encourages TOFU. Anyway, IMHO it is
the best option. Cause simply replying at the bottom isn't the way to go
either.

With the cursor being at the top, the user gets a chance to behave
really nicely. Which is a) replying inline where appropriate rather than
at the bottom or top, and b) stripping everything that isn't necessary.
Thus he needs to go down the entire mail anyway. Actually doing so is
the users duty. ;-)

FWIW, you replied inline, leaving comments where appropriate (see
above). Now if the cursor would have been at the bottom when replying,
you would have to move the cursor anyway. ;)


Just a few personal thoughts...

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Pilot synch

2005-11-06 Thread Andrew Greig
Thanks Martin,

That has been my experience for some years now, too.  What I find
difficult to comprehend, is that in this whole open source thing, that
the gnome/evolution developers have not used the jpilot sync code,
because it works really well, every time. My problem is that in my
tiredness and frustration I screwed up in jpilot and did not choose
"restore handheld" but merely synchronised and my empty pilot blitzed my
desktop data in jpilot.  Now I need to get my data back from evo onto
the pilot.  It would be nice if there were a way to export the address
data from evo to jpilot, and then at least I could start using my pilot
again.

Andrew Greig
Melbourne, Australia




On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 10:23 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I assume you're using the Tools/Pilot/Sync menu from within EVO.
> 
> In my case I had success when - and only when! - I set the conduits anew
> every time I use the Pilot.
> 
> Maybe that helps.
> 
> Regards Martin
> 
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 03.11.2005, 17:27 +1100 schrieb Andrew Greig:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I have recently had my notebook and Palm Tungsten stolen, and for the
> > moment I need to re-instate my PalmIII, which is a serial device. Set up
> > thus:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ll /dev/pilot
> > lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 10 Nov  3 16:04 /dev/pilot -> /dev/ttyS0
> > 
> > ownership of /dev/ttyS0 is 
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ll /dev/ttyS0
> > crwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4, 64 Nov  3 17:09 /dev/ttyS0
> > 
> > I am also a member of the uucp group
> > 
> > I set up the Pilot to use /dev/pilot
> > 
> > The Pilot is recognised with my user number being Andrew Greig 7177
> > whereas mu ser number in the Mandriva  2006 box is 501 (as usual)
> > 
> > The sync starts but gets nowhere.  I set the conduits to copy data TO
> > the Pilot but the synch operation reports:
> > 
> > "The connection between your handheld computer and the desktop was lost.
> > Some of your data was NOT backed up.
> > gnome-pilot v.2.0.13
> > On host localhost
> > Copy to pilot EAddress"
> > 
> > I really need to sort this out.  Any help appreciated.
> > 
> > Andrew Greig
> > Melbourne, Australia
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Evolution] Re: Saving embedded images

2005-11-06 Thread Sankar P
Already a bug is filed for this. #317823
This will be fixed in the 2.5 cycle.

Sankar

On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 15:55 +0100, guenther wrote:
> > I believe this was mentioned as a bug some time ago, but I don't know if
> > anyone's doing something about it...all options for saving embedded
> > images from an email in Evolution have now been removed (for some
> > reason!) I get several comic digests and I like to save my favourites to
> > send to people or archive, and I have no way to do this, not even to
> > open them in a browser since the last change. Any ideas/is this being
> > looked at?
> 
> This works in Evo 2.2.x, so this obviously is a regression since 2.4.
> 
> Please file a bug report at bugzilla.gnome.org and mention it's a
> regression in the detailed description. Feel free to post the bug number
> here. :)
> 
> ...guenther
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Re: Saving embedded images

2005-11-06 Thread Shreyas
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 10:29 +0530, Sankar P wrote:
> Already a bug is filed for this. #317823
> This will be fixed in the 2.5 cycle.

If its a regression from 2.2 and the fix is pretty
straight forward then shouldn't it go to the 2.4 branch 
as well ? Its kinda sad to expect users to upgrade to a 
unstable branch to get a regression fix.

Cheers,
Shreyas
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[Evolution] Selecting adresses

2005-11-06 Thread J.L. Blom
Hi,
Since Evo 2.2 the selection process for mail-addresses has IMHO
deteriorated as has been mentioned several times in this list. I would
like to make the suggestion that to the search listbox. which now is a
single list only for names is added - just as in contacts, a picklist
where you can choose from which part of the address you want to make the
selection (identical to the main contact list window). E.g. instead of
names you can choose categories - very handy when you want to sent mail
to groups - or even "any field contains" for some other item you want to
sort on.
Joep


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