Re: Website improvements

[Oliver Propst]

Right now Mozilla[1] are redesigning the their's get involved page[2].
As part of this process the team who are doing the redesign are
running a survey[3], this survey includes three different prototypes
[4] [5] [6], each with a different distinctive look and feel.

I think this is a good opportunity for us to have a look and test
these prototypes as they can provide some inspirations for what
direction our get involved page[7] should take, and thus recommend
everyone interested in this to take a look.

Its interesting to note that prototype b explore similar ideas as
Bastian's recent design experiment [8] by providing an easy way to
come in contact with community members.

Personally I find it an very interesting approach and one that as far
as I'm aware of not have been used by other free/open source projects
and definitely is worth more exploration.

1 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
2 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/
3 http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1747304/Feedback-Get-Involved-Prototypes
4 https://www-demo3.allizom.org/en-US/contribute/a/
5 https://www-demo3.allizom.org/en-US/contribute/b/
6 https://www-demo3.allizom.org/en-US/contribute/c/
7 http://www.gnome.org/get-involved/
8 http://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2014/08/05/post-guadec/
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Re: Reinvigoratoring the GNOME Amazon store

[Bastien Nocera]

On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi !
> 
> 
> In 2009 we introduced an amazon store in the friend of gnome page [1].
> AFAIR, Jaap Haitsma was, at least, one of the person on charge of this
> and did a very good job. When you make your Amazon purchases at this
> store the GNOME Foundation will receive a referral fee which amounts
> to 4-6% of the total purchase you make. Depending on where you live
> you can use the US, Canada, Germany, France, Japan or UK store.

I have a couple of questions regarding the stores.

- is the "front-end" at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ the only
way for GNOME to get a referral fee, or would setting a referal "store"
as the Search plugin/Firefox add-on give you the same referral fees?
- Does the Amazon.com smile program also require using a referral code,
or would any purchases automatically get a referral percentage, as long
as you've registered GNOME as your preferred charity?

If the only requirement is to have a referral code in the URL, we can
probably integrate something into Epiphany, with an opt-out. I've
already done something similar to strip out tracking data from URLs :)

Cheers


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Friends of GNOME Web Pages

[Allan Day]

Hi all,

During the Engagement BoF at GUADEC, we spent a bit of time discussing
Friends of GNOME. As a follow-on, I've resurrected my wireframes for
the Support Us/Friends of GNOME web pages:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/websites/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome.png

There are a few goals/significant changes here:

 * Provides a more elaborate case for why donating is important, and
how donations are used.
 * Makes it clear that Friends of GNOME is for regular monthly
donations, and clearly separates them from one time donations.
 * Greatly simplifies the options.
 * Drops the adopt a hacker scheme, along with promises of gifts. This
is mostly to simplify things on our end; I think we'd still like to
send postcards, but more as a surprise bonus rather than as a promise.
 * Adds a questionnaire, so we can gather more information on who is
donating and why.

I'd be happy to carry on developing this mockups. I can also help with
text and visual assets if anyone wants to work on web development for
this.

Allan
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Re: Reinvigoratoring the GNOME Amazon store

[Ekaterina Gerasimova]

On 06/08/2014, Bastien Nocera  wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi !
>>
>>
>> In 2009 we introduced an amazon store in the friend of gnome page [1].
>> AFAIR, Jaap Haitsma was, at least, one of the person on charge of this
>> and did a very good job. When you make your Amazon purchases at this
>> store the GNOME Foundation will receive a referral fee which amounts
>> to 4-6% of the total purchase you make. Depending on where you live
>> you can use the US, Canada, Germany, France, Japan or UK store.
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding the stores.
>
> - is the "front-end" at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ the only
> way for GNOME to get a referral fee, or would setting a referal "store"
> as the Search plugin/Firefox add-on give you the same referral fees?

One needs to have the referrer in the URL when one navigates to
Amazon, so it is possible to have a search in Epiphany with the
referrer ID without too much difficulty. It would be nice if this was
something that was shipped with Epiphany by default.

> - Does the Amazon.com smile program also require using a referral code,
> or would any purchases automatically get a referral percentage, as long
> as you've registered GNOME as your preferred charity?
>
> If the only requirement is to have a referral code in the URL, we can
> probably integrate something into Epiphany, with an opt-out. I've
> already done something similar to strip out tracking data from URLs :)
>
> Cheers
>
>
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Re: Reinvigoratoring the GNOME Amazon store

[Rosanna Yuen]

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova  wrote:

> On 06/08/2014, Bastien Nocera  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi !
> >>
> >>
> >> In 2009 we introduced an amazon store in the friend of gnome page [1].
> >> AFAIR, Jaap Haitsma was, at least, one of the person on charge of this
> >> and did a very good job. When you make your Amazon purchases at this
> >> store the GNOME Foundation will receive a referral fee which amounts
> >> to 4-6% of the total purchase you make. Depending on where you live
> >> you can use the US, Canada, Germany, France, Japan or UK store.
> >
> > I have a couple of questions regarding the stores.
> >
> > - is the "front-end" at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ the only
> > way for GNOME to get a referral fee, or would setting a referal "store"
> > as the Search plugin/Firefox add-on give you the same referral fees?
>
> One needs to have the referrer in the URL when one navigates to
> Amazon, so it is possible to have a search in Epiphany with the
> referrer ID without too much difficulty. It would be nice if this was
> something that was shipped with Epiphany by default.
>

I vaguely remember this was discussed in the past and we couldn't do it
because it was against their terms of service.  Does anyone have time to
look them over to make sure that that isn't the case?

Thanks,
Rosanna


>
> > - Does the Amazon.com smile program also require using a referral code,
> > or would any purchases automatically get a referral percentage, as long
> > as you've registered GNOME as your preferred charity?
> >
> > If the only requirement is to have a referral code in the URL, we can
> > probably integrate something into Epiphany, with an opt-out. I've
> > already done something similar to strip out tracking data from URLs :)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
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Re: Reinvigoratoring the GNOME Amazon store

[Hashem Nasarat]

On 08/06/2014 11:24 AM, Rosanna Yuen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova
> mailto:kittykat3...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> On 06/08/2014, Bastien Nocera  > wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi !
> >>
> >>
> >> In 2009 we introduced an amazon store in the friend of gnome page
> [1].
> >> AFAIR, Jaap Haitsma was, at least, one of the person on charge of
> this
> >> and did a very good job. When you make your Amazon purchases at this
> >> store the GNOME Foundation will receive a referral fee which amounts
> >> to 4-6% of the total purchase you make. Depending on where you live
> >> you can use the US, Canada, Germany, France, Japan or UK store.
> >
> > I have a couple of questions regarding the stores.
> >
> > - is the "front-end" at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ the only
> > way for GNOME to get a referral fee, or would setting a referal
> "store"
> > as the Search plugin/Firefox add-on give you the same referral fees?
> 
> One needs to have the referrer in the URL when one navigates to
> Amazon, so it is possible to have a search in Epiphany with the
> referrer ID without too much difficulty. It would be nice if this was
> something that was shipped with Epiphany by default.
> 
> 
> I vaguely remember this was discussed in the past and we couldn't do it
> because it was against their terms of service.  Does anyone have time to
> look them over to make sure that that isn't the case?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rosanna
>  
> 


You mean this? https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/agreement/
" Qualifying Purchases exclude, and we will not pay advertising fees on
any of, the following:
any Product purchased by a customer who is referred to the Amazon Site
through any of the following:
a link to the Amazon Site, including a Redirecting Link, that is
generated or displayed on a Search Engine in response to a general
Internet search query or keyword (i.e., in natural, free, organic, or
unpaid search results), whether those links appear through your
submission of data to that site or otherwise. "


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Re: Reinvigoratoring the GNOME Amazon store

[Ekaterina Gerasimova]

On 06/08/2014, Hashem Nasarat  wrote:
> On 08/06/2014 11:24 AM, Rosanna Yuen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova
>> mailto:kittykat3...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> On 06/08/2014, Bastien Nocera > > wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In 2009 we introduced an amazon store in the friend of gnome page
>> [1].
>> >> AFAIR, Jaap Haitsma was, at least, one of the person on charge of
>> this
>> >> and did a very good job. When you make your Amazon purchases at
>> this
>> >> store the GNOME Foundation will receive a referral fee which
>> amounts
>> >> to 4-6% of the total purchase you make. Depending on where you
>> live
>> >> you can use the US, Canada, Germany, France, Japan or UK store.
>> >
>> > I have a couple of questions regarding the stores.
>> >
>> > - is the "front-end" at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ the
>> only
>> > way for GNOME to get a referral fee, or would setting a referal
>> "store"
>> > as the Search plugin/Firefox add-on give you the same referral
>> fees?
>>
>> One needs to have the referrer in the URL when one navigates to
>> Amazon, so it is possible to have a search in Epiphany with the
>> referrer ID without too much difficulty. It would be nice if this was
>> something that was shipped with Epiphany by default.
>>
>>
>> I vaguely remember this was discussed in the past and we couldn't do it
>> because it was against their terms of service.  Does anyone have time to
>> look them over to make sure that that isn't the case?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rosanna
>>
>>
>
>
> You mean this?
> https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/agreement/
> " Qualifying Purchases exclude, and we will not pay advertising fees on
> any of, the following:
> any Product purchased by a customer who is referred to the Amazon Site
> through any of the following:
> a link to the Amazon Site, including a Redirecting Link, that is
> generated or displayed on a Search Engine in response to a general
> Internet search query or keyword (i.e., in natural, free, organic, or
> unpaid search results), whether those links appear through your
> submission of data to that site or otherwise. "

This would not apply as we would be searching Amazon directly, with
the intention of buying something from Amazon (almost same as what our
Amazon store does), and the submission of data is only to Amazon
without going through any third parties.

I think this clause is more aimed at preventing search engines having
a "featured" Amazon referral for all searches.

But if there is still doubt, we can always ask Amazon to clarify.
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Re: Reinvigoratoring the GNOME Amazon store

[Rosanna Yuen]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova  wrote:

> On 06/08/2014, Hashem Nasarat  wrote:
> > On 08/06/2014 11:24 AM, Rosanna Yuen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova
> >> mailto:kittykat3...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> On 06/08/2014, Bastien Nocera  >> > wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi !
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In 2009 we introduced an amazon store in the friend of gnome page
> >> [1].
> >> >> AFAIR, Jaap Haitsma was, at least, one of the person on charge of
> >> this
> >> >> and did a very good job. When you make your Amazon purchases at
> >> this
> >> >> store the GNOME Foundation will receive a referral fee which
> >> amounts
> >> >> to 4-6% of the total purchase you make. Depending on where you
> >> live
> >> >> you can use the US, Canada, Germany, France, Japan or UK store.
> >> >
> >> > I have a couple of questions regarding the stores.
> >> >
> >> > - is the "front-end" at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ the
> >> only
> >> > way for GNOME to get a referral fee, or would setting a referal
> >> "store"
> >> > as the Search plugin/Firefox add-on give you the same referral
> >> fees?
> >>
> >> One needs to have the referrer in the URL when one navigates to
> >> Amazon, so it is possible to have a search in Epiphany with the
> >> referrer ID without too much difficulty. It would be nice if this
> was
> >> something that was shipped with Epiphany by default.
> >>
> >>
> >> I vaguely remember this was discussed in the past and we couldn't do it
> >> because it was against their terms of service.  Does anyone have time to
> >> look them over to make sure that that isn't the case?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rosanna
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > You mean this?
> > https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/agreement/
> > " Qualifying Purchases exclude, and we will not pay advertising fees on
> > any of, the following:
> > any Product purchased by a customer who is referred to the Amazon Site
> > through any of the following:
> > a link to the Amazon Site, including a Redirecting Link, that is
> > generated or displayed on a Search Engine in response to a general
> > Internet search query or keyword (i.e., in natural, free, organic, or
> > unpaid search results), whether those links appear through your
> > submission of data to that site or otherwise. "
>
> This would not apply as we would be searching Amazon directly, with
> the intention of buying something from Amazon (almost same as what our
> Amazon store does), and the submission of data is only to Amazon
> without going through any third parties.
>
> I think this clause is more aimed at preventing search engines having
> a "featured" Amazon referral for all searches.
>
> But if there is still doubt, we can always ask Amazon to clarify.
>

I know someone did ask Amazon for clarification in the backwhen about
referral links and searches which resulted in a negative response.  I don't
know exactly what the question was or where that email would be archived,
unfortunately.  Is this conversation ringing any bells with anyone else?

Thanks,
Rosanna
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