[Orgmode] Using org-mode and git to make a wiki

2009-06-17 Thread David Libert
are all messages.  Or a work group.

And similarly, a system like this could replace mailing lists or discussion
groups.  For susbsription only groups, and adminstrator could give
out permissions for appropriate git access.  For an open puiblic group, just
put up the url for the git repository in a public place, likie a web
page, or in messages of other newsgroups and so on.

Anyone reading that link to the respository, if they are willing to run the
correct software (git, emacs, org-mode)  could pull and read.

Writing is a bit triickier.  The group could include members that would list
themselves as volunteers to welcome newbies.  They could
include email addresses, and newbie could email in a request for a pull,
giving their own public respositry they set up.  The old timers
would be crosslinked with a systems of pulls and pushes.

Or else a special resosptiry coukld be set up the universal push permission.

Once a newbie has written once into the "wiki",  they could include their
repo in a list in the wiki, and then they are in better.

You could have many of these, on specialized topics.  As with forwardiong
email, articles could be moved betweren them by individuals.
Or it would be easy to use git to merge two of these into one.

You could also readily fork them, again using git.

I could see systems like this as ideally replacing email, news, mailiong
lists, regular wikis, and blogs.  All the blogging functionality could
be readily copied over into editting appropriately in org-mode.

And new functions could be written for inside org-mode  to automate certain
uses like that.

Of course big changes like that don't really happen.  So what I really mean
is I could see a small community arising using this.  Anf I would
like to be doing that myself, partially replacubg all thiose fucntions that
way for myself, for while I was interacting wioth others doing it.

The org-mode page could link to such pages, with some instruction to
newbies, much as they presently host worg.

Even if the official org-mode page didn't want to be involved in something
like that, it could be a worthwhile starting project for any small
group of individuals.

I have been googling org-mode and git.  I find things a bit like this, but
never this idea of doing a sort of wiki like system enitrely inside
org-mode,
without export to html.

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Re: [Orgmode] Using org-mode and git to make a wiki

2009-06-17 Thread David Libert
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Nicolas Girard wrote:

> 2009/6/17 David Libert 
>
>> I only started learning about org-mode in the last few days.  I have been
>> reading documentation about it and am very impressed by the system.
>>
>> I have been wondering about the possibilties if using org-mode and git to
>> run an improved style of wiki.
>
>
>
> Hi David,
> what about Blorgit...?
> http://orgmode.org/worg/blorgit.php
>
> Nicolas
>

Hi Nicolas:

Thanks,  blorgit was one of the ones I had encountered in search, but I
looked clser at it just now
after getting your reply.

As I noted in the opening post,  I wanted the readers to have org-mode
running.  Checking more closely
into blorgit, I see it does that, even for readers coming in over the web
through browsers.  blorgit
provides a rails plugin,  act-as-org,  to give org-mode functionality.  It
also provides an edit button,
to let web readers edit your  org-mode files.

And it is maintained by git.  So you could also advertise your reposititry
from inside the blog, and let
people pull it.  Then you could pull back or let them push, to also give
them git revisions, which they
could do from insde emacs and org-mode.

Or else let them edit online from the browser.

So this sounds like ideally it could do a lot of what I wanted.  And more,
because it also presents a web
interface to some, with org-mode features and editting of org-mode files.

It might be difficult for me to use with my setup though, though maybe there
is a way.

I dual boot between sidux  (a Linux disto) and XP.  blorgit needs to have
emacs server running to serve
web pages.

I have an ISP where I am allowed to put up static web pages.

This point about being out of sidux sometimes makes a problem for my own
version too.  For that I was planning to find git hostiing for my git
repository.

Maybe there is web hosting where they could run the emacs server and rails?


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Re: [Orgmode] Debian Mono / Tomboy

2009-06-27 Thread David Libert
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Russell Adams wrote:

> Slightly offtopic, but I was reading /. where they are arguing over
> the inclusion of Mono in Debian in order to support the Tomboy app.
>
> I won't get into the whole Mono debate, but I was curious why the
> angst over one application? Whats it do?
>
> Its a note taking app for Gnome written in Mono! In fact, it sounds
> like they are trying for some similar Org functionality, but with a
> GUI frontend.
>
> I think it ironic they are arguing over including this in Debian, when
> they already have Emacs and Org out of the box. ;]
>
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  I used to use Tomboy as my main desktop wiki.  Then I switched to
emacs-wiki, and more
recently from that to org-mode.

  Tomboy gets the linking aspect of a wiki in a simple GUI.  This gives it a
lot of power over
simple note taking, but the power of any wiki.

  Some features in Tomboy and emacs-wiki which as far as I have discovered
are not in
org-mode though are backlinks  (ie "what links here"),  and simple text
searches accross
the entire wiki.  emacs-wiki does this by a simple shell pipe using find
which should be easy
to do in org-mode.

  There is also a lot of talk going on in the Tomboy cotroversies involving
gnote.  That is a new
app, which ports Tomboy out from mono to straight C++.  It attempts to
duplicate the user
experience of Tomboy as much as possible, though I did read on the gnote web
site there
is one feature (pinning)  that they are changing.

  I have run Tomboy and gnote and they do look very similar.

  There is also a lot of talk about this in Ubuntu, and apparently Ubuntu is
about to drop Tomboy and
replace it with gnote, over the mono issue, and similarly for other mono
apps.

  One nice GUI feature of Tomboy and gnote.  The default is new notes are
opened in their own
window, which is small.  So you can readily get many notes on screen side by
side, and use
the window manager to organize them by placement.


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