Re: One big file or multiple small ones

2025-03-13 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
This resonates with me to some extent, surely I can feel down the line
if I continue I might pile up without managing it properly.

Categorizing is beneficial, I should utilize that more.

> If you don't apply the system well enough or user doesn't know how to
> apply it, then searching is the only option left.

This is true for me atm. A lazy man's system

> I have many Org files on my system, as for many people, meaning
> hundreds of them. When file is related to person, the file has been
> automatically opened, prepared, with some default sections, so that I
> can enter notes, tasks and transactions.
>
> When I have realized that it is not going to pass the time test, I
> have switched to database work, so all my notes are in the database,
> including Org notes as database entries and Org files as files on the
> file system.

This is giving me some realization on how to move forward, definitely
I'll think about time test.

NLP and LLM models might be truly beneficial.
Although scary, its a good idea for personal knowledge management.

> And all that in natural language manner.

That is indeed very much sophisticated. I remember using google
assisstant back then for reminding and noting which helped me alot.

This seems like a good approach and a way ahead utilizing the technology
well.

Definitely alot to take in, explore and think about it for me.

Thank you very much for writing this and sharing it here.
Your experience surely has weight and valid points, which I agree.
It was one of the comprehensive read and thought provoking matter on
note taking and management.

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Zororg.




Re: [BUG] Update to emacs 30.1/org-mode 9.7 changed agenda sort [9.7.11 (release_9.7.11 @ /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/)]

2025-03-13 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Doug Harris  writes:

> I see the same problem when I run with emacs -Q
>
> Something else I noticed is that another of my custom views, defined as "n"
> "Agenda and all TODOs" in the config *still* shows the expected ordering.
> That suggests that something in the tags-todo of my work agenda view is
> messing with the item ordering.

Can you try creating a small org file that replicates the problem?
Something so that I can replicate what you are seeing on my side.

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Re: [BUG] org babel uses sh-mode with zsh indentation when i specify bash or bash-ts [9.7.11 (release_9.7.11 @ /usr/local/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/org/)]

2025-03-13 Thread Ihor Radchenko
the_wurfkreuz  writes:

> I've tried to this:
>
> git clone https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter-bash
> cd tree-sitter-bash
> make
> sudo make install
>
> Then, after `emacs -Q` i evaluate `(setq treesit-extra-load-path 
> '("/usr/local/lib"))` and try to create a code block with the bash-ts mode 
> and get the same thing.

I tried the same except make install and used /path/to/tree-sitter-bash
as the load path. Everything worked. Although I used emacs master build.

> Do i maybe need to spin a vm and give all the possible reproduction steps? 
> I'm using void linux.

Maybe try to compile emacs from source. Or a vm. Whichever is easier.
Maybe others can also try to reproduce.

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Re: [BUG] Spurious ORG errors when editing a Markdown file [9.6.15 (release_9.6.15 @ /nix/store/gwnlqb2zp3rga9y66k88hgv1ffcdj9k3-emacs-29.4/share/emacs/29.4/lisp/org/)]

2025-03-13 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Alaric Snell-Pym  writes:

> Yeah... I've no idea what might be causing that though :-/ The buffer is 
> in Markdown mode. It's a shame the backtrace is nil so I can't see what 
> code path is leading to the org parser being invoked there!

M-x toggle-debug-on-error should give you the full backtrace instead of
the warning.

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Re: [BUG] Spurious ORG errors when editing a Markdown file [9.6.15 (release_9.6.15 @ /nix/store/gwnlqb2zp3rga9y66k88hgv1ffcdj9k3-emacs-29.4/share/emacs/29.4/lisp/org/)]

2025-03-13 Thread Alaric Snell-Pym

On 11/03/2025 19:09, Ihor Radchenko wrote:

Alaric Snell-Pym  writes:


I'm editing a Markdown file, but I keep getting *Warnings* popping up
(stealing my focus as I'm trying to type!) with messages like these:

⛔ Warning (org-element-cache): org-element--cache: Org parser error in
import-mane-data/README.md::189. Resetting.
   The error was: (error "rx ‘**’ range error")
   Backtrace:


So, something in your config is trying to call Org mode parser inside
markdown file. Org mode parser cannot work there...



Yeah... I've no idea what might be causing that though :-/ The buffer is 
in Markdown mode. It's a shame the backtrace is nil so I can't see what 
code path is leading to the org parser being invoked there!


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Re: Org Agenda errors if agenda file is in column view

2025-03-13 Thread Rens Oliemans
Ihor Radchenko  writes:

> Thanks for reporting!
> Fixed, on main.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=f95c31800a

Awesome, thank you!



Re: One big file or multiple small ones

2025-03-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Zororg via "General discussions about Org-mode.  
[2025-03-12 20:52]:
> I had also been scrambling myself about this as well.
> 
> I started out with denote (many files) since it was nice and I was using many
> packages.
> 
> Later as I went on, started digging into org mode and wondered about
> managing notesin single file.

When using Org mode with files—like most users—I prefer to categorize
them. Naturally, I wouldn't mix my business notes with my
personal/family ones; that would make little sense unless you have
very few or insignificant notes where mixing could lead to confusion
between your business and family matters.

It is just an example of family and business there, though I have too
many categories, so it doesn't really make sense mixing different
distinct categories in a single file.

Different users have different needs. If user says he is going to mix
all categories of notes in a single fine, than be it so. Though it
doesn't stand the time test. Over the time, user will start
accumulating, IMHO, user is sooner or later to realize that it is
better categorizing.

The notion of categorizing is anyway principle of Org mode use.

> One by alphapapa, who states that rather than a system, notes should
> focus on searching. People all over internet prefer searching and
> filtering by tags. So we should leverage that as a practise.

You need both the system and various searching capabilities. In fact,
when system of categorizing is well designed, you almost need no
searching. That is the whole point of the system.

If you don't apply the system well enough or user doesn't know how to
apply it, then searching is the only option left.

All notes that I have are categorized by related people and related
subjects.

Any notes related Zororg, any files, any e-mails, phone calls, meeting
minutes, documents, are related to Zororg and because of that
relation, anything I have done with Zororg is clearly easy to pinpoint
in the set or file related to Zororg.

When I think of my personal categories, I may think of "ffmpeg" or
"computer stuff" and I first get into that category then I find the
rest.

But let's say I think of Sacha Chua, first thing I do is I write
"Chua" and find the person, then I click on anything related to Chua.

At that time point I can already use C-s to find whatever else related
to notes to Sacha Chua. Maybe some Emacs News.

I get any website pages I created related to her work, and whatever
other notes, documents, audio, etc.

Because of categorizing, which is the meaning of the "system", I am
speedy in searching.

Tags are just one way of categorizing. In fact I use tags when I need
intersection of information, such as price of cocoa, price of coffee,
price of red crude oil, those are all different tags.

Tags are part of the system, not separate issue.

> Another one when I saw yantar (org maintainer) notes and workflow in
> org meetup. He manages single so well with information.

I am sure people do, and it is possible, as Org mode itself has
sections and sections help in categorizing.

Though, again, it is subjective to the user.

Imagine you manage football club, and you got all the members and
families coming for celebration to the club, so are you really going
to keep your private issues together with memberships? I don't think
so. It would also look embarassing in the club.

When user has no privacy issues, then it is fine to keep it in one
place, even then user is to categorize it as that is totally natural
in Org mode application.

> One thing many go for small files is because of bi-directional
> links, creating those cool graphs

I have many Org files on my system, as for many people, meaning
hundreds of them. When file is related to person, the file has been
automatically opened, prepared, with some default sections, so that I
can enter notes, tasks and transactions.

When I have realized that it is not going to pass the time test, I
have switched to database work, so all my notes are in the database,
including Org notes as database entries and Org files as files on the
file system.

That enables me to related single documents, and tasks, notes, to
multiple people, companies, who are working on it, so that is how
Dynamic Knowledge Repository as envisioned by Doug Engelbart came to
existence.

About Dynamic Knowledge Repositories (DKR):
https://www.dougengelbart.org/content/view/190/163/

** Statistics 

╔╦╦══╦═══╗
║ Total number of people ║ 243204 ║ Total Hyperdocuments ║ 66453 ║
╠╬╬══╬═══╣
║ People in last week║ 40 ║ Hyperdocuments in last week  ║ 91║
╠╬╬══╬═══╣
║ People in last month   ║ 219║ Hyperdocuments in last month ║ 447   ║
╚╩╩══╩═══╝

As you see, large number of people are coming into