[Orgmode] LaTeX classes for Resume Writing

2010-09-28 Thread Jambunathan K

Any recommendations (based on experience) for LaTeX Resume classes.

I am specifically looking for a LaTeX class where the templating is
taken care of by the class itself and the user has to merely fill in the
details from within an Orgmode file. Something similar to scrlttr2 and
isodoc for letter-writing so to speak.

If there is one, I can incorporate the support for same in my LaTeX
Generic class support work.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-09/msg01264.html

I would also find it personally useful.

Jambunathan K.




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Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-capture (lost PATCH?)

2010-09-28 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Aloha Jambunathan K.,

Please, don't leave the table to Carsten!

The Org-mode community is full of exceptionally talented people, like  
Carsten, who choose to spend some of their time developing Org-mode  
because it is interesting, fun and wickedly useful.


If your patch didn't generate the interest you think it might deserve,  
then please have some more fun developing it to the point that the  
rest of us can have fun with it, too.


All the best,
Tom

On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Jambunathan K wrote:


Carsten Dominik  writes:


On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Jambunathan K wrote:


Matt


I had proposed a patch to org-capture in this thread.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-08/
msg01152.html

The patch has neither been rejected nor accepted. I am a bit
concerned
that it might have been lost.


It's currently on patchwork with the status of "deferred":

http://patchwork.newartisans.com/patch/246/


Thanks.

Reassuring to know that this is still under the radar.


No really.

The message with the patch did state this:


The intention of this mail is to share my notes and influence you to
considering adding the needed support in the core. In effect the
attached patch is demo-only and not to be construed as a formal
commit request.

There was no further discussion of the patch in the mailing group,
no followup or support.  ANd I have not yet spent the time to really
understand what this was all about.


I was (and am) interested in feedback. I didn't make a commit request
because I felt that there could be some reservations on how useful the
patch could be.

All I can say is that I can assure co-operation from my side.

I sense that I had been a bit verbose and a bit too cautious. This  
seems

to have turned off any further interest. A lesson for me here.

I leave the table to you.

Jambunathan K.



- Carsten




From the patchwork server side, two things could be considered:

1. Enhance the web interface[1] to show *all* *not DONE* items.

 - http://patchwork.newartisans.com/project/org-mode/list/

2. Generate an automated reply to a submitter of the patch giving
him an
 URL to the patch. This will enable under the hood access to the
patch
 state.

Either or both of 1 and 2 would avoid anxiety on contributor's side
particularly the newer ones.

Thanks,
Jambunathan K.



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Freemind conversion and Notes

2010-09-28 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hi Lennart

Lennart Borgman  writes:

> Thanks for the bug report. I have attached a new version of
> org-freemind.el (and a patch for it).

Aaaargh. One day too late. Yesterday I converted a big mindmap manually.
But it's fine that the package will be healthy soon for the next time
(which will come soon). Thanks again.

> Please test it and let me know what problems you find.

At the moment it doesn't work for me. This is the debug-on-error report
for org-freemind-to-org-mode:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-number-of-arguments called-interactively-p 
1)
  (called-interactively-p (quote any))
  (org-freemind-check-overwrite org-file (called-interactively-p (quote any)))
  (if (org-freemind-check-overwrite org-file (called-interactively-p ...)) 
(progn (let ... ...)))
  (when (org-freemind-check-overwrite org-file (called-interactively-p ...)) 
(let (... ...) (with-current-buffer mm-buffer ...)))
  org-freemind-to-org-mode("/home/sven/tmp/Theravada.mm" 
"~/tmp/Theravada.mm.org")
  call-interactively(org-freemind-to-org-mode t nil)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)

I have the latest stable version of orgmode (7.01h) installed on Emacs
23.1.1 under Ubuntu Lynx.

Greetings,

Sven

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-28 Thread Scot Becker
Richard,

That's a great intro screencast.

Scot


On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Jeff Kowalczyk  wrote:
> Eric Abrahamsen  ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>
>> One thing that would be really excellent is to show keystrokes as you do
>> the tutorial. I don't know what system you're using, but this link:
>>
>> http://screencasters.heathenx.org/blog/2009/04/06/smaller-key-status-monitor/
>>
>>
>> Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>> mwe-log-commands may be particularly useful for an emacs related
>> screencast http://www.foldr.org/~michaelw/emacs/mwe-log-commands.el
>
> It would be extremely nice for screencasting Emacs to have a configurable 
> input
> and prompt display similar to the calc trail.
>
> Wish list:
>
> - stack view of the keystream from view-lossage
> - annotations (i.e. an overlay) when a binding dispatches a command
>  using the mechanism from mwe-log-commands.
> - annotations of minibuffer prompts
> - annotations of keybinding hints
>
> The view-lossage stream doesn't use the format one would want for user
> documentation:
>
> C-x b f o ov i e w - l o s s a g e 
>
> Something like the following would be more like documentation:
>
> C-x b [switch-to-buffer]
> f o o RET [minibuffer input]
> RET [minibuffer prompt confirm]
> [visiting buffer] foo
> M-x []
> v i e w - l o s s a g e RET [minibuffer input]
> [visiting buffer] *Help*
>
> The parts in [brackets] are intended to indicate some kind of face overlay. As
> uncolored plaintext the information is just distracting.
>
> Another tool, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode has good ideas for
> keybinding hints and one-key stepthrough. I don't think the typed-text 
> narration
> style is a good fit for these particular screencasts and their target 
> audience,
> however.
>
> Jeff
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Re: [Orgmode] ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-28 Thread Scot Becker
Dan,

I have no special expertise on this, but I'll hazzard an answer as a
simple ELPA user:

> Using ELPA does seem like an attractive route, especially if it
> (package.el) is going to be in Emacs24.

To me too, ELPA is a great idea.  It probably needs some perfecting,
but if it works for these purposes, we only help the perfecting by
encouraging it's use.

> - How much work would it take to put and maintain Org-mode on ELPA?

I'll let someone else answer that, but I'd be suprised if it couldn't
be automated.

> - Would it make sense to have two different packages available via ELPA,

To me, yes.  I like using git for the development tree, but I expect
that ELPA makes for a nice way for Windows users (and others who don't
want to or can't use git) to get the latest version easily (and
possibly even to downgrade if necessary).  The latest release version
is of course necessary as well, since using it is the main
recommendation to new users.

> - Will it be possible for the Org project to have control over the files

An excellent and important question.  We'd rather not be dependent on
personal intervention from others to update, especially the '-latest'
version.  And even for the releases, we'd probably be glad to see them
propagate to the repository pretty quickly.  (The current non-gnu ELPA
repo only updates every two weeks or so.  This is fine for many
projects, but probably not enough even for org-mode releases.)

> - Will ELPA be able to get the info files installed suitably?

In principle, yes.  ELPA does concern itself with both the load-path
and the info-path.

Scot

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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-28 Thread Richard Riley

Unfortunately neither istanbul nor recordmydesktop work properly on my
twinview desktop : both are very very slow and flickery.

What is the current concensus for screencasting with Linux : hopefully
with some sort of ability to show the keys pressed and an easy way to
annotate the video?



Scot Becker  writes:

> Richard,
>
> That's a great intro screencast.
>
> Scot
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Jeff Kowalczyk  wrote:
>> Eric Abrahamsen  ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>
>>> One thing that would be really excellent is to show keystrokes as you do
>>> the tutorial. I don't know what system you're using, but this link:
>>>
>>> http://screencasters.heathenx.org/blog/2009/04/06/smaller-key-status-monitor/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rustom Mody wrote:
>>>
>>> mwe-log-commands may be particularly useful for an emacs related
>>> screencast http://www.foldr.org/~michaelw/emacs/mwe-log-commands.el
>>
>> It would be extremely nice for screencasting Emacs to have a configurable
> input
>> and prompt display similar to the calc trail.
>>
>> Wish list:
>>
>> - stack view of the keystream from view-lossage
>> - annotations (i.e. an overlay) when a binding dispatches a command
>>  using the mechanism from mwe-log-commands.
>> - annotations of minibuffer prompts
>> - annotations of keybinding hints
>>
>> The view-lossage stream doesn't use the format one would want for user
>> documentation:
>>
>> C-x b f o ov i e w - l o s s a g e 
>>
>> Something like the following would be more like documentation:
>>
>> C-x b [switch-to-buffer]
>> f o o RET [minibuffer input]
>> RET [minibuffer prompt confirm]
>> [visiting buffer] foo
>> M-x []
>> v i e w - l o s s a g e RET [minibuffer input]
>> [visiting buffer] *Help*
>>
>> The parts in [brackets] are intended to indicate some kind of face overlay. 
>> As
>> uncolored plaintext the information is just distracting.
>>
>> Another tool, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode has good ideas 
>> for
>> keybinding hints and one-key stepthrough. I don't think the typed-text
> narration
>> style is a good fit for these particular screencasts and their target
> audience,
>> however.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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[Orgmode] org-capture questions: not auto-loaded? no tag-alignment?

2010-09-28 Thread Markus Ecce
Hi everybody,

I recently switched from org-remember to org-capture and noticed two
potential regressions, but maybe I'm missing something...

First, when I launch emacs (and don't load an .org file or enter
org-mode) I cannot use "org-capture". C-c c gives: "Symbol's function
definition is void: org-capture"). By contrast, "org-remember" does
work.

Of course I can fix this by adding "(require 'org-install)" to my
.emacs -- but it would be nicer if worked without that (like
org-remember did).

Second, with org-remember, tags inserted with "%^g" in the template
were correctly aligned (respecting the setting of org-tags-column).
With org-capture, tags are just a space away from the headline text.
Is there a way to get the "old" behavior with org-capture as well?

Otherwise I'm very happy with org-capture -- thanks for all this!

BTW I'm using Emacs 23.2.1 on Linux with org-mode from git.

Greetings,
Markus

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[Orgmode] RE: Can't find LaTeX under MAC

2010-09-28 Thread Matthew Leifer
I'm also on a Mac and it worked for me without any configuration.  You might
need to check whether the TeX settings in your System Preferences are set
correctly.  TeXLive installs a preference pane which sets the appropriate
PATH variables via a GUI so you don't have to do any hacking on your .emacs
file.  Also, you might want to look at using Aquamacs Emacs rather than the
plain Emacs that ships with OSX because it comes pre-loaded with all the
important customizations for LaTeXing.


On 27 September 2010 22:30, Thomas S. Dye  wrote:

> Aloha Chao,
>
> I have texlive 2010 installed on my Mac.  This path works for me:
>
>  Emacs set path to LaTeX binaries
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp :tangle yes
>(setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/usr/texbin"))
>(setq exec-path (append exec-path '("/usr/texbin")))
> #+end_src
>
> HTH,
> Tom
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Chao LU wrote:
>
>  Dear all,
>>
>> I'm trying to use org-mode under MAC, and when I export to html, some
>> fragments of LaTeX needs to be converted. So I got the texlive installed and
>> then put these lines into my .emacs:
>>
>> 8<>8
>>
>> (defconst lch-mac-p (eq window-system 'mac) "Are we on Mac")
>> (if lch-mac-p
>>(progn
>>  (setenv "PATH" (concat
>> "/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/universal-darwin:" (getenv "PATH")))
>>  (setq exec-path (append exec-path '("/usr/local/bin"
>> "/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/universal-darwin:")))
>>  )
>>)
>>
>> 8<->8
>>
>> But seems not work, org still can't find where the LaTeX is. Could anyone
>> give me a hint?
>>
>> Thanks in advance ^.^
>>
>> Chao
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-28 Thread Sebastian Rose
Richard Riley  writes:
> Unfortunately neither istanbul nor recordmydesktop work properly on my
> twinview desktop : both are very very slow and flickery.
>
> What is the current concensus for screencasting with Linux : hopefully
> with some sort of ability to show the keys pressed and an easy way to
> annotate the video?

Wink let's you annotate the video and works quite well, once you know
what _not_ to do.  Save often is a good idea.  It does not compile on my
system without some work, since it still uses Qt3.

Screenkey shows the keys. It works very well here.

For creating and editing videos, I'm currently trying OpenShot.  It's
dead simple to use.  It lets you use images too, so one could go and use
images for annotations or even create a video from screenshots and other
images.  This has the advantage that you can read the fonts later on.




 Sebastian

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Re: [Orgmode] RE: Can't find LaTeX under MAC

2010-09-28 Thread Jeff Horn
+1, both to the fact TeXLive worked fine for me without additional
configuration, and to the suggestion of giving Aquamacs Emacs a shot.

Note: I use the emacs starter kit (which automatically loads some init
files), and I've had to symbolically link my ~/.emacs.d directory
(where the starter kit is kept) to ~/Library/Application
Support/Aquamacs. I don't know if this is necessary anymore. That is,
I'm not sure whether Aquamacs loads files in ~/.emacs.d by default.

Jeff

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Matthew Leifer  wrote:
> I'm also on a Mac and it worked for me without any configuration.  You might
> need to check whether the TeX settings in your System Preferences are set
> correctly.  TeXLive installs a preference pane which sets the appropriate
> PATH variables via a GUI so you don't have to do any hacking on your .emacs
> file.  Also, you might want to look at using Aquamacs Emacs rather than the
> plain Emacs that ships with OSX because it comes pre-loaded with all the
> important customizations for LaTeXing.
>
> On 27 September 2010 22:30, Thomas S. Dye  wrote:
>>
>> Aloha Chao,
>>
>> I have texlive 2010 installed on my Mac.  This path works for me:
>>
>>  Emacs set path to LaTeX binaries
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp :tangle yes
>>    (setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/usr/texbin"))
>>    (setq exec-path (append exec-path '("/usr/texbin")))
>> #+end_src
>>
>> HTH,
>> Tom
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Chao LU wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to use org-mode under MAC, and when I export to html, some
>>> fragments of LaTeX needs to be converted. So I got the texlive installed and
>>> then put these lines into my .emacs:
>>>
>>> 8<>8
>>>
>>> (defconst lch-mac-p (eq window-system 'mac) "Are we on Mac")
>>> (if lch-mac-p
>>>    (progn
>>>      (setenv "PATH" (concat
>>> "/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/universal-darwin:" (getenv "PATH")))
>>>      (setq exec-path (append exec-path '("/usr/local/bin"
>>> "/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/universal-darwin:")))
>>>      )
>>>    )
>>>
>>> 8<->8
>>>
>>> But seems not work, org still can't find where the LaTeX is. Could anyone
>>> give me a hint?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance ^.^
>>>
>>> Chao
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[Orgmode] Re: org-capture questions: not auto-loaded? no tag-alignment?

2010-09-28 Thread Sébastien Vauban
Hi Markus,

Markus Ecce wrote:
> I recently switched from org-remember to org-capture and noticed two
> potential regressions, but maybe I'm missing something...
>
> First, when I launch emacs (and don't load an .org file or enter org-mode) I
> cannot use "org-capture". C-c c gives: "Symbol's function definition is
> void: org-capture"). By contrast, "org-remember" does work.
>
> Of course I can fix this by adding "(require 'org-install)" to my .emacs --
> but it would be nicer if worked without that (like org-remember did).

And putting =(require 'org-capture)= instead?


> Second, with org-remember, tags inserted with "%^g" in the template were
> correctly aligned (respecting the setting of org-tags-column). With
> org-capture, tags are just a space away from the headline text. Is there a
> way to get the "old" behavior with org-capture as well?

I don't have that problem, while I do use that feature. Tags are one space
away from headline when editing the note, but become aligned as soon as I
press =C-c C-c=.


> Otherwise I'm very happy with org-capture -- thanks for all this!
>
> BTW I'm using Emacs 23.2.1 on Linux with org-mode from git.

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: [Orgmode] RE: Can't find LaTeX under MAC

2010-09-28 Thread Joost Kremers
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Matthew Leifer  wrote:
> > I'm also on a Mac and it worked for me without any configuration.  You might
> > need to check whether the TeX settings in your System Preferences are set
> > correctly.  TeXLive installs a preference pane which sets the appropriate
> > PATH variables via a GUI so you don't have to do any hacking on your .emacs
> > file.  

well, MacTeX does. MacTeX is of course essentially TeXLive, but IIUC it installs
some extra stuff that makes live easier for the Mac user by not having to mess
with the command line. i don't think the OP mentioned MacTeX, just TeXLive, so
it may be that s/he installed TeXLive directly, /not/ through MacTeX.

if that is indeed the case, i would advise the OP to remove TeXLive and install
it through MacTeX. that may solve his/her problems.


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Re: [Orgmode] org-footnote in messages, practical question.

2010-09-28 Thread Scot Becker
ditto.  same reason.  In my mind the sig is like letterhead.  Useful
perhaps, but not really part of the message.



On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Sebastian Rose  wrote:
> Łukasz Stelmach  writes:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I am thinking about deploying org-footnote in message-mode. I'd like to
>> use it for URLs most and I'd like to ask you a question. Where would you
>> like to see the footnotes sections in my messages ;-) below or above the
>> signature. Please consider that if they get below then they will be
>> ripped off on reply. If, on the other hand I should put them above the
>> signature then some hacking is required in the org-footnote-normalize
>> function which of course is fun.
>
>
> My vote is _above_.
>
> As you said:  they will be ripped of on reply if placed below the
> signature.
>
> Also, I expect the signature to be the last thing in a mail.  I often do
> not scroll down to see if something is below it.
>
>
>  Sebastian
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: From state table to state diagram

2010-09-28 Thread Rainer M Krug
I just started, in another context, to look into radio tables, and I thought
- wouldn't this be an option? I mean - putting a radio table into a plantuml
block and translating it, should not be to difficult? And it would be
perfectly in line with org. The same could be done for graphviz.

Just an idea,

Cheers,

Rainer


On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Gary  wrote:

> Rainer M Krug wrote:
>
> > I really like the idea of this conversion from a State Transition Table
> to a
> > State Transition Diagram as it is much easier to make a table then a
> > graph.
>
> Easier to maintain, too - I ahte trying to reorganise all the transition
> arrows when I change something :))
>
> > Unfortunately I don't know enough of python to help here.
>
> I'm learning it in order to do this :P
>
> > Could you please publish your solution here (and on worg) as it would be
> a
> > very useful addition to org.
>
> Sure :)
>
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[Orgmode] Re: Problem with PROPERTIES :OPTIONS: when exporting subtree

2010-09-28 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Matt Lundin  wrote:

> Rainer M Krug  writes:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I hava a problem with exporting to LaTeX.
> >
> > I want to export a table to latex. I put it into a subtree, containing
> > only the table, i.e. no headers, as I want to include it into another
> > document. I thought, that using the :OPTIONS: property, I can disable
> > the headers - but it does not seem to be working - am I missing
> > something?
>
> I believe the relevant property is :EXPORT_OPTIONS:.
>
> ,[ (info "(org) Export options") ]
> |When exporting only a single subtree by selecting it with `C-c @'
> | before calling an export command, the subtree can overrule some of the
> | file's export settings with properties `EXPORT_FILE_NAME',
> | `EXPORT_TITLE', `EXPORT_TEXT', `EXPORT_AUTHOR', `EXPORT_DATE', and
> | `EXPORT_OPTIONS'.
> `
>
> > ###
> > * Table of Parameter
> >
> > The parameters are as follow:
> > ** The Table
> > :PROPERTIES:
> > :EXPORT_FILE_NAME: table
> > :OPTIONS: H:0 num:f toc:f author:f timestamp:f creator:f
> > :END:
> > | A | B |  C |
> > |---+---+|
> > | 1 | 2 | 33 |
> > |   |   ||
> > ###
> >
>
> Is it correct that you are trying to disable author, table-of-contents,
> etc.? If so, I believe these can be turned off with the nil option:
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> * Table of Parameter
>
> The parameters are as follow:
> ** The Table
> :PROPERTIES:
> :EXPORT_FILE_NAME: table
> :EXPORT_OPTIONS: H:0 num:nil toc:nil author:nil timestamp:nil creator:nil
> :END:
> | A | B |  C |
> |---+---+|
> | 1 | 2 | 33 |
> |   |   ||
> --8<---cut here---end--->8
>
> Have you considered radio tables? It's a nice solution for including an
> org-mode table in a LaTeX document.
>

Yes - I looked into them, but I don't get them to work. Do you have an org
file with a radio table so that I can see it?

Actually, I don't think they would do what I want:  want to save the table
as LaTeX to a file and use it in a different program (LyX), so that I can
update the table while I am working on my simulation, and that when I open
LyX, I always have the up-to-date version for the paper I am writing.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
> Best,
> Matt
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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX classes for Resume Writing

2010-09-28 Thread Nick Dokos
Jambunathan K  wrote:

> 
> Any recommendations (based on experience) for LaTeX Resume classes.
> 
> I am specifically looking for a LaTeX class where the templating is
> taken care of by the class itself and the user has to merely fill in the
> details from within an Orgmode file. Something similar to scrlttr2 and
> isodoc for letter-writing so to speak.
> 
> If there is one, I can incorporate the support for same in my LaTeX
> Generic class support work.
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-09/msg01264.html
> 
> I would also find it personally useful.
> 

Did you check the TeX FAQ?

 http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html

Typing "resume" in the search box returned a few entries, including
"Curriculum Vitae (Résumé)". I'd start there.

HTH,
Nick

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[Orgmode] Re: ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-28 Thread Jambunathan K

> Dan,
>
> I have no special expertise on this, but I'll hazzard an answer as a
> simple ELPA user:
>
>> Using ELPA does seem like an attractive route, especially if it
>> (package.el) is going to be in Emacs24.
>
> To me too, ELPA is a great idea.  It probably needs some perfecting,
> but if it works for these purposes, we only help the perfecting by
> encouraging it's use.
>
>> - How much work would it take to put and maintain Org-mode on ELPA?
>
> I'll let someone else answer that, but I'd be suprised if it couldn't
> be automated.
>
>> - Would it make sense to have two different packages available via ELPA,
>
> To me, yes.  I like using git for the development tree, but I expect
> that ELPA makes for a nice way for Windows users (and others who don't
> want to or can't use git) to get the latest version easily (and
> possibly even to downgrade if necessary).  The latest release version
> is of course necessary as well, since using it is the main
> recommendation to new users.
>
>> - Will it be possible for the Org project to have control over the files
>
> An excellent and important question.  We'd rather not be dependent on
> personal intervention from others to update, especially the '-latest'
> version.  And even for the releases, we'd probably be glad to see them
> propagate to the repository pretty quickly.  (The current non-gnu ELPA
> repo only updates every two weeks or so.  This is fine for many
> projects, but probably not enough even for org-mode releases.)
>
>> - Will ELPA be able to get the info files installed suitably?
>
> In principle, yes.  ELPA does concern itself with both the load-path
> and the info-path.
>

FWIW the info entry and elisp file for the package manager answers some
of the questions raised here.

Base URL: http://github.com/davidswelt/aquamacs-emacs/raw/aquamacs24

./lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
./lisp/emacs-lisp/package-x.el

./doc/lispref/package.texi

I see that default archive is set to 

http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/

Atleast from the browser I could see only a handful of files. No I don't
see Orgmode there. It wouldn't be there unless someone provided *-pkg.el
file.

ELPA that I have installed with my emacs-23.1.91 is from
http://tromey.com/elpa/. 

As a user, I find the experience of using package manager extremely
pleasant. Apart from merge related changes & related renaming, I believe
the emacs24 version should be just the same. 

Since package manager is a new kid on the block I don't see any reason
why it can't be taught new tricks.

ps: There are references to 'uploads' in package-x.el. So, there is
reason to believe that there exists support for updating archives
remotely.

Jambunathan K.

> Scot

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[Orgmode] Re: n-times event

2010-09-28 Thread Łukasz Stelmach
Łukasz Stelmach  writes:

> I am wondering what sexp to write to display an event n times. Let's say
> there is a course at a university which comprises 4 meetings.
[...]

For the record, you can find some answers here:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#org-diary-class

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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX classes for Resume Writing

2010-09-28 Thread Jambunathan K
Nick Dokos  writes:

> Jambunathan K  wrote:
>
>> 
>> Any recommendations (based on experience) for LaTeX Resume classes.
>> 
>> I am specifically looking for a LaTeX class where the templating is
>> taken care of by the class itself and the user has to merely fill in the
>> details from within an Orgmode file. Something similar to scrlttr2 and
>> isodoc for letter-writing so to speak.
>> 
>> If there is one, I can incorporate the support for same in my LaTeX
>> Generic class support work.
>> 
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-09/msg01264.html
>> 
>> I would also find it personally useful.
>> 
>
> Did you check the TeX FAQ?
>
>  http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html
>
> Typing "resume" in the search box returned a few entries, including
> "Curriculum Vitae (Résumé)". I'd start there.

I looked at some sample TeX and Pdf files. I had a 'feeling' that 1)
either the formatting and content were inextricably intertwined or 2)
the pdf file was too bland. (1) means that orgifying the content would
be difficult.

I am on the lookout for something that I am happy with.

ps: I am new to LaTeX. That also limits the way I look at TeX files.

>
> HTH,
> Nick

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Freemind conversion and Notes

2010-09-28 Thread Lennart Borgman
"Give thanks for unknown blessings already on their way." - Native
American Saying.

Can you please just remove the argument given to
called-interactively-p? Please see here:
http://old.nabble.com/called-interactively-p-td25704073.html



On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Sven Bretfeld  wrote:
> Hi Lennart
>
> Lennart Borgman  writes:
>
>> Thanks for the bug report. I have attached a new version of
>> org-freemind.el (and a patch for it).
>
> Aaaargh. One day too late. Yesterday I converted a big mindmap manually.
> But it's fine that the package will be healthy soon for the next time
> (which will come soon). Thanks again.
>
>> Please test it and let me know what problems you find.
>
> At the moment it doesn't work for me. This is the debug-on-error report
> for org-freemind-to-org-mode:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-number-of-arguments 
> called-interactively-p 1)
>  (called-interactively-p (quote any))
>  (org-freemind-check-overwrite org-file (called-interactively-p (quote any)))
>  (if (org-freemind-check-overwrite org-file (called-interactively-p ...)) 
> (progn (let ... ...)))
>  (when (org-freemind-check-overwrite org-file (called-interactively-p ...)) 
> (let (... ...) (with-current-buffer mm-buffer ...)))
>  org-freemind-to-org-mode("/home/sven/tmp/Theravada.mm" 
> "~/tmp/Theravada.mm.org")
>  call-interactively(org-freemind-to-org-mode t nil)
>  execute-extended-command(nil)
>  call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
>
> I have the latest stable version of orgmode (7.01h) installed on Emacs
> 23.1.1 under Ubuntu Lynx.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sven
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Re: [Orgmode] Windows installation with msysGit

2010-09-28 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi
Matthew Leifer  writes:

>This solution is
> based on a relatively recent project that aims to port git to Windows
> called msysGit (see http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/).  Here are the
> basic steps:

msysGit installation requires  1,30 GB of disk space to install.

Giovanni

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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX classes for Resume Writing

2010-09-28 Thread John Hendy
This would be great.

I know you're looking for some type of "class", but would any of these
example templates help?

- http://nitens.org/taraborelli/cvtex
-
http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/create-a-curriculum-vitae-using-latex/

I'm
not sure what needs to happen for this to happen... some type of mapping of
properties/headlines to LaTeX equivalents?


John

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Jambunathan K wrote:

> Nick Dokos  writes:
>
> > Jambunathan K  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Any recommendations (based on experience) for LaTeX Resume classes.
> >>
> >> I am specifically looking for a LaTeX class where the templating is
> >> taken care of by the class itself and the user has to merely fill in the
> >> details from within an Orgmode file. Something similar to scrlttr2 and
> >> isodoc for letter-writing so to speak.
> >>
> >> If there is one, I can incorporate the support for same in my LaTeX
> >> Generic class support work.
> >>
> >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-09/msg01264.html
> >>
> >> I would also find it personally useful.
> >>
> >
> > Did you check the TeX FAQ?
> >
> >  http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html
> >
> > Typing "resume" in the search box returned a few entries, including
> > "Curriculum Vitae (Résumé)". I'd start there.
>
> I looked at some sample TeX and Pdf files. I had a 'feeling' that 1)
> either the formatting and content were inextricably intertwined or 2)
> the pdf file was too bland. (1) means that orgifying the content would
> be difficult.
>
> I am on the lookout for something that I am happy with.
>
> ps: I am new to LaTeX. That also limits the way I look at TeX files.
>
> >
> > HTH,
> > Nick
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Re: [Orgmode] org-capture questions: not auto-loaded? no tag-alignment?

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 28, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Markus Ecce wrote:


Hi everybody,

I recently switched from org-remember to org-capture and noticed two
potential regressions, but maybe I'm missing something...

First, when I launch emacs (and don't load an .org file or enter
org-mode) I cannot use "org-capture". C-c c gives: "Symbol's function
definition is void: org-capture"). By contrast, "org-remember" does
work.


If org-remember is autoloaded, there can be two reasons for this.

1. You have already loaded org.el, which arranges for autoloading of  
this and other commands


2. Your Emacs contains also an older version of org, and therefore  
Emacs itself knows to autoload org-remember.


org-capture will be autoloaded once you have an Emacs that has
org-capture.el already included.
It will also be autoloaded after you have loaded org.el.

So I have to assume that you are trying to execute org-capture before  
visiting

any org-mode file, so that not even org.el has been loaded.

Well, this is *exactly* the situation where org-install is for.  So  
just go ahead and
require it, as indicated in the installation instructions.  If you are  
downloading and

installing your own version of org, this is necessary.




Of course I can fix this by adding "(require 'org-install)" to my
.emacs -- but it would be nicer if worked without that (like
org-remember did).

Second, with org-remember, tags inserted with "%^g" in the template
were correctly aligned (respecting the setting of org-tags-column).
With org-capture, tags are just a space away from the headline text.
Is there a way to get the "old" behavior with org-capture as well?


With the most recent org version, I am unable to reproduce this  
behavior.
Immediately after the template has been filled - and thus before  
pressing C-c C-c,

the tags are aligned.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: FLOSS Weekly show about Org-mode

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Christian Egli wrote:


Bastien  writes:


Jeff Horn  writes:


I wanted to mention how great it would be to have an org-mode
conference.



If many people support this idea, this is how we could do it:

1. list ideas of things we would do there


Meet and talk about org-mode :-)


2. find out what would be the best location/date


We could probably get a developer room at next years FOSDEM[1]. They
provide rooms where projects can organize their own schedule, made of
presentations, brainstorming and hacking sessions. You have to  
apply[2]

for such a developer room as they always receive more requests than
they can host.

Also of course Carsten would make for a good main track speaker[3].


3. figure out how much money does it requires


I don't know the details but I could imagine that this would not  
require

any money.


4. decide (or not) to go for it


Write the application and see if they'll give you a room :-). If there
is a room I'll come and do a presentation :-).



So - who will take the lead and write the application?  We'd
have to act soon.  Can we also have a show of hands how many people
would seriously consider to come to such a meeting?

Hmm, I'll make a separate thread for this.

- Carsten



Thanks
Christian

Footnotes:
[1]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/
[2]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms
[3]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_main_speakers

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Re: [Orgmode] how to set faces?

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:



Hello

The following setting works in lisp mode

(let ((lisp-regexp-4 " ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)"))
  (setq lisp-font-lock-keywords-1
  (append lisp-font-lock-keywords-1
  (list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
  'font-lock-log-warn-face t
  (setq lisp-font-lock-keywords-2
  (append lisp-font-lock-keywords-2
  (list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
  'font-lock-log-warn-face t)

Every word surrounded by an * gets highlighted by the
font-lock-log-warn-face.

I tried something similar for org-mode, like

(let ((lisp-regexp-4 " ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)"))
  (setq org-font-lock-keywords
  (append lisp-font-lock-keywords-1



Typo


  (list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
  'font-lock-comment-warn-face t)


Or

(add-to-list 'org-font-lock-keywords
'(" ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)" 1 'font-lock-comment-warn-face  
append t))


Org-mode sets org-font-lock-keywords while the mode is turned
on, locally in each org-mode buffer, because depending on setup,
the keywords can be different in different buffers.

Please take a look at the function org-set-font-lock-defaults,
and in particular use the hook org-font-lock-set-keywords-hook
in order to append your stuff to the variable
org-font-lock-keywords-extra (no, I do not know why
it is called extra - I must have had a reason for it once :-) )

HTH

- Carsten


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[Orgmode] how to set faces?

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


Hello

The following setting works in lisp mode

 (let ((lisp-regexp-4 " ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)"))
   (setq lisp-font-lock-keywords-1
  (append lisp-font-lock-keywords-1
  (list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
  'font-lock-log-warn-face t
   (setq lisp-font-lock-keywords-2
  (append lisp-font-lock-keywords-2
  (list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
  'font-lock-log-warn-face t)

Every word surrounded by an * gets highlighted by the
font-lock-log-warn-face.

I tried something similar for org-mode, like

 (let ((lisp-regexp-4 " ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)"))
   (setq org-font-lock-keywords
  (append lisp-font-lock-keywords-1

I guess this should be org-font-lock-keywords here?

  (list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
  'font-lock-comment-warn-face t)


Or

(add-to-list 'org-font-lock-keywords
'(" ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)" 1 'font-lock-comment-warn-face  
append t))


But it does not work,

Can somebody give me a hint please?

Uwe Brauer


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] Alphabetical ordered lists

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:


Nathaniel Flath writes:



But, there is apparently one major drawback, as I said in a
previous post. If the line starts with a word followed by a dot or
a parenthesis, Org will see a bullet there. This is bad news
because the following line will be indented, or a M-RET will delete
the word, replacing it with a) or a.



Yes, this happens - it's not something that comes up during my
normal usage, so I didn't notice. Can you think of a way to
determine if this is the case vs. a list is actually wanted?


Unfortunately, I can't see anything clean. This is tricky because
lists are the closest construct to raw text.


My feeling is that we should not apply this patch.  I see how it might  
be

nice to have such lists - but confusion is rather likely in
this case.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] geolocated notes

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Nice!

- Carsten

On Sep 27, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Łukasz Stelmach wrote:


Hello.

I've just created a hack to for org-mode (and org-remember) to receive
and parse URLs from OpenStreetMap and Google Maps. The function  
extracts

longitude and latitude and sets GEO property of the node to geo: URI.

The code is easily extendable. To add support for other maps one has  
to

add a branch in the `cond' in stl/org-dnd-set-geo-property, that sets
`lon' and `lat' appropriately *and* a regular expression in
stl/org-dnd-add-geo-support.

To see it running just drag and drop the URL that contains geographic
coordinates from the address bar (or the "Link" link in the upper  
right

corner of the Google Maps window) over a node to get its GEO property
set.

--8<---cut here---start->8---
(defun stl/org-dnd-set-geo-property (uri action)
 (save-excursion
   (let (lat lon)
 (cond
; OpenStreetMap
  ((string-match
 "^http://\\(?:www\.\\)openstreetmap\.org/" uri)
(dolist (p (split-string (cadr (split-string uri "\?")) "&" ))
  (cond
   ((string-match "lat=\\(-?[.0-9]+\\)" p)
(setq lat (match-string 1 p)))
   ((string-match "lon=\\(-?[.0-9]+\\)" p)
(setq lon (match-string 1 p))
; Google Maps
  ((string-match
	 "^http://maps\.google\.com/.*ll=\\(-?[.0-9]+\\),\\(-?[.0-9]+\\)"  
uri)

(setq lat (match-string 1 uri) lon (match-string 2 uri
 (unless (outline-previous-heading)
(search-forward-regexp org-outline-regexp))
 (org-set-property "GEO" (concat "geo:" lat "," lon)

(defun stl/org-dnd-add-geo-support ()
 (org-set-local
 'dnd-protocol-alist
	 (append '(("^http://\\(?:\\(?:www\.\\)?openstreetmap\.org\\| 
maps\.google\.com\\)". stl/org-dnd-set-geo-property)) dnd-protocol- 
alist)))


(add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'stl/org-dnd-add-geo-support)
(add-hook 'org-remember-mode-hook 'stl/org-dnd-add-geo-support)
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

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Re: [Orgmode] How to export =\'= as a table entry in latex

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 19, 2010, at 4:29 PM, zwz wrote:


Those days when I was preparing a presentation about the special chars
that starts with a =\= in C programming language, I made such a table

| \' | signle quote |
| \" | double quote |

It did not work after I hit C-c C-e p.

So I modified it as
| =\'= | signle quote |
| =\"= | double quote |

Still it did not produce the right thing.


This was at first puzzling, because you did exactly the right thing.

The reason why it is not working is that quotes cannot be last
in an emphasis string.  I do not remember the reason for this
I am sure there was one at some point.

What you can do is this:  Customize the variable org-emphasis-regexp- 
components and remove


  \"

and

  '

from the third element in that variable.

The your second version above should work.

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[Orgmode] Re: ditaa set-up on windows box

2010-09-28 Thread Achim Gratz
John Hendy  writes:
> Can you check your CLASSPATH environment variable? Mine is (not sure
> if it's correct, but it works...):
>
> .;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip

Unset this variable and try again.  The default CLASSPATH is simply ".",
but you don't need to set the environment variable then.

http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/tools/windows/classpath.html

BTW, you can run 'java -verbose' to get more output that may show you
where the problem really is (like looking for files in the wrong place
or something like that).


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[Orgmode] Re: Problem with PROPERTIES :OPTIONS: when exporting subtree

2010-09-28 Thread Matthew Lundin
Rainer M Krug  writes:

> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Matt Lundin  wrote:
>
> Rainer M Krug  writes:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I hava a problem with exporting to LaTeX.
> >
> > I want to export a table to latex. I put it into a subtree,
> containing
> > only the table, i.e. no headers, as I want to include it into
> another
> > document. I thought, that using the :OPTIONS: property, I can
> disable
> > the headers - but it does not seem to be working - am I missing
> > something?
>
> I believe the relevant property is :EXPORT_OPTIONS:.
>
> ...
>
> Have you considered radio tables? It's a nice solution for
> including an
> org-mode table in a LaTeX document.
>
> Yes - I looked into them, but I don't get them to work. Do you have an
> org file with a radio table so that I can see it?

There's a nice example in the manual:

(info "(org) A LaTeX example")

>
> Actually, I don't think they would do what I want:  want to save the
> table as LaTeX to a file and use it in a different program (LyX), so
> that I can update the table while I am working on my simulation, and
> that when I open LyX, I always have the up-to-date version for the
> paper I am writing.

Ah, then they wouldn't work in this scenario. Radio tables allow you to
use the minor mode orgtbl to edit org-mode tables within a commented
section of a source file (e.g., LaTeX, html) and then to place the
"exported" table at a target location within the same file.

It would, however, be very nice to be able to send the results or a
source code block (either executed code or exported org snippets) via
babel to a target in an external file.

Best,
Matt

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[Orgmode] org and auto-complete faces/overlays clash

2010-09-28 Thread Richard Riley

Not so mega important as org files are not somewhere I would normally
have completion turned on, but this time I did while editing some elisp
in org-mode :-

http://www.myupload.org/viewer.php?file=d8ajog6vgu9fl8idhomm.png

The auto-complete menu system clashes with the org-mode folding :
something to do with overlays perhaps?




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Re: [Orgmode] File-level execute permissions?

2010-09-28 Thread Eric Schulte
Bill Harris  writes:

> "Eric Schulte"  writes:
[...]
>> Note: the above requires that you pull down the latest version of
>> Org-mode.
>
> I've got 7.01h.  I presume you mean something newer than that?  
>

Yes, you'll need to pull a copy of Org-mode from the git repository,
anything pulled after the date of my last message will work.

git clone git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git

For information on git see http://git-scm.com/

Best -- Eric

>
> Bill

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[Orgmode] Orgmode meetup at FOSDEM, February 2011. Who would come?

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi everyone

Please reply to this email if you'd consider to come to FOSDEM[1,2],
February 5 and 6 next year in Brussels, in order to join an Org-mode
meet-up there.


- [ ] I would come and listen
- [ ] I would come and give a talk in the devroom


[1]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/
[2]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms

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Re: [Orgmode] ELPA

2010-09-28 Thread Eric Schulte
Scot Becker  writes:

> Dan,

[...]

>> - Would it make sense to have two different packages available via ELPA,
>
> To me, yes.  I like using git for the development tree, but I expect
> that ELPA makes for a nice way for Windows users (and others who don't
> want to or can't use git) to get the latest version easily (and
> possibly even to downgrade if necessary).  The latest release version
> is of course necessary as well, since using it is the main
> recommendation to new users.
>

I would think that it only makes sense to have one Org-mode package in
ELPA, namely the bleeding edge git version of Org-mode.  ELPA serves as
a way to distribute packages which are not (or can't be) part of Emacs,
I don't think it makes sense to use ELPA to re-distribute the version of
Org-mode which users already have installed as part of their Emacs
install.  Un-installing the bleeding edge Org-mode would be equivalent
to downgrading to the Emacs version.

Also, I would tend to think that this would make the most sense if we
automate the ELPA integration s.t. every time a new revision is pushed
up the to git repository, the ELPA version is automatically upgraded
(with a git commit hook).  If this isn't currently possible in ELPA then
I'd agree with a point Jambunathan makes in this thread that this is a
trick we can help ELPA to learn.

The reason I think the above is important is that very frequently the
answer to a question is "oh, I fixed that, please pull the latest from
git", and we'll be constantly frustrating users if ELPA can't keep up
with git.

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Re: [Orgmode] org and auto-complete faces/overlays clash

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Richard Riley wrote:



Not so mega important as org files are not somewhere I would normally
have completion turned on, but this time I did while editing some  
elisp

in org-mode :-

http://www.myupload.org/viewer.php?file=d8ajog6vgu9fl8idhomm.png

The auto-complete menu system clashes with the org-mode folding :
something to do with overlays perhaps?


Likely, and very hard to fix... :(

- Carsten

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Re: [Orgmode] how to set faces?

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:10:31 +0200, Carsten Dominik > wrote:



On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:




(list (list lisp-regexp-4 0
'font-lock-comment-warn-face t)


Or

(add-to-list 'org-font-lock-keywords
'(" ?\\(\\<\\*[a-zA-Z]*\\*\\>\\)" 1 'font-lock-comment-warn-face
append t))



Org-mode sets org-font-lock-keywords while the mode is turned
on, locally in each org-mode buffer, because depending on setup,
the keywords can be different in different buffers.



Please take a look at the function org-set-font-lock-defaults,

I am using 6.34, this function is not documented.


and in particular use the hook org-font-lock-set-keywords-hook

does not exist

in order to append your stuff to the variable
org-font-lock-keywords-extra (no, I do not know why

this neither.

So I must upgrade I presume?


Or do something more clever, like finding another hook *maybe in font- 
lock

that runs at the right time.

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Re: [Orgmode] Orgmode meetup at FOSDEM, February 2011. Who would come?

2010-09-28 Thread Richard Moreland
I would come to listen, and if anyone was interested I could briefly
talk about MobileOrg.

-Richard

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Carsten Dominik
 wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> Please reply to this email if you'd consider to come to FOSDEM[1,2],
> February 5 and 6 next year in Brussels, in order to join an Org-mode
> meet-up there.
>
>
> - [ ] I would come and listen
> - [ ] I would come and give a talk in the devroom
>
>
> [1]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/
> [2]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms
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Re: [Orgmode] ELPA

2010-09-28 Thread Sebastian Rose
"Eric Schulte"  writes:
> I would think that it only makes sense to have one Org-mode package in
> ELPA, namely the bleeding edge git version of Org-mode.  ELPA serves as
> a way to distribute packages which are not (or can't be) part of Emacs,


package.el in emacs-24 lists Org-mode as "built-in".  That's the version
included in Emacs, not a package on elpa.gnu.org as I thought.

The "bleeding edge" package would be the only one there.


> I don't think it makes sense to use ELPA to re-distribute the version of
> Org-mode which users already have installed as part of their Emacs
> install.  Un-installing the bleeding edge Org-mode would be equivalent
> to downgrading to the Emacs version.

+1

> Also, I would tend to think that this would make the most sense if we
> automate the ELPA integration s.t. every time a new revision is pushed
> up the to git repository, the ELPA version is automatically upgraded
> (with a git commit hook).  If this isn't currently possible in ELPA then
> I'd agree with a point Jambunathan makes in this thread that this is a
> trick we can help ELPA to learn.
>
> The reason I think the above is important is that very frequently the
> answer to a question is "oh, I fixed that, please pull the latest from
> git", and we'll be constantly frustrating users if ELPA can't keep up
> with git.
>
> Best -- Eric



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[Orgmode] Cannot insert column - wrong type argument

2010-09-28 Thread Gez
I'm having problems configuring the column view in a particular file  - I can't 
insert/add a column.  

I can navigate around it, and S-M- works fine, but S-M- brings up 
the message "Wrong type argument: integer-or-marker-p, nil"

In a newly created test file S-M- worked fine - prompts for a property. 
I don't know if it's relevant but in the problematic file, when I use C-c C-x 
C-c to create the column view, no #+COLUMNS line appears.

Any ideas how to troubleshoot it?

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[Orgmode] Having (too) many files in org-agenda-files

2010-09-28 Thread Sébastien Vauban
Hi,

Of course, I have many, many files in Org mode. All files I write (or touch)
in fact.

Of course, I would like to search through my files at some point in time.
I even would like to search through your files at some point in time, I mean
through =org-mode/contrib/babel= and =Worg= for example.

Hence, I put them in =org-agenda-files=:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
;; set which files to search for TODO entries and scheduled items
;; (avoiding hidden files)
(setq org-agenda-files
  (append (directory-files org-directory t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
  (if (file-exists-p "~/Projects/")
  (directory-files "~/Projects/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
nil)
  (if (file-exists-p "~/Public/")
  (directory-files "~/Public/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")
nil)
  (if (file-exists-p "~/Public/www.mygooglest.com/source/sva/")
  (directory-files "~/Public/www.mygooglest.com/source/sva/" t 
"^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")
nil)
  (if (file-exists-p "~/Examples/Org-scraps/")
  (directory-files "~/Examples/Org-scraps/" t 
"^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")
nil)
  (if (file-exists-p 
"~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/contrib/babel/")
  (directory-files 
"~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/contrib/babel/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
nil)
  (if (file-exists-p "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/Worg/")
  (directory-files "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/Worg/" t 
"^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
nil)
  ))
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

The problem is the load-time of my Emacs, now:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
Emacs Init startup time: 221 seconds.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

coming from 20 seconds before the heavy use of Org...

with tens of times such lines in my *Messages* buffer:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
OVERVIEW
Checking for library `filladapt'...
+-> Requiring `filladapt' (already loaded)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org... (regexps)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org... (regexps.)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org... (regexps..)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
+-> Requiring `outline-mode-easy-bindings' (already loaded)
+-> Requiring `ispell' (already loaded)
Evaluate code AFTER HAVING LOADED `flyspell'... [2 times]
Starting new Ispell process [en_US] ...
Checking for library `filladapt'...
+-> Requiring `filladapt' (already loaded)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

You'll tell me: not a problem, you do that only once a day, and you use Emacs
client/server for the rest of the time. True. A bit, because I sometimes have
to restart Emacs for testing a fresh one (not impacted by defvars already
defined, or deffaces, etc.).

Having to wait almost 4 minutes is a real pain. So, here my
comments/questions:

- Isn't it possible to delay the fontification/ispell/etc. to when we really
  display (i.e., pop up) the buffer?  I guess this must be a major component
  of the time this takes.

- Couldn't we have 2 vars: =org-agenda-files= for the files you know you want
  have scanned for the agenda construction, and an extra list such as
  =org-search-files= for files not containing any dates?  Then, some time
  would have to be taken when =C-c a s=, but not before. And not if you don't
  search for anything in your Org files during that Emacs session...

Any other idea?

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: [Orgmode] Orgmode meetup at FOSDEM, February 2011. Who would come?

2010-09-28 Thread Stefan Vollmar
I would be very interested and could give a brief presentation of what we do 
with Org-mode at our institute.

Warm regards,
 Stefan

On 28.09.2010, at 19:44, Carsten Dominik wrote:

> Hi everyone
> 
> Please reply to this email if you'd consider to come to FOSDEM[1,2],
> February 5 and 6 next year in Brussels, in order to join an Org-mode
> meet-up there.
> 
> 
> - [ ] I would come and listen
> - [ ] I would come and give a talk in the devroom
> 
> 
> [1]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/
> [2]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms
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[Orgmode] Re: ELPA

2010-09-28 Thread Achim Gratz
"Eric Schulte"  writes:
> I would think that it only makes sense to have one Org-mode package in
> ELPA, namely the bleeding edge git version of Org-mode.

I disagree and my vote is still on 'maint', i.e. what a user would be
most likely to install if he was visiting orgmode.org.  Master changes
too often and might have experimental commits that later get reversed.
For anybody not following the mailing list this would be exactly the
wrong version to get through ELPA, especially since ELPA (at least in
standard configuration) does not notify about new versions.

> ELPA serves as a way to distribute packages which are not (or can't
> be) part of Emacs,

This is true of the current ELPA (tromey.com), but I feel the GNU ELPA
might take on an additional role: 1) easily obtaining packages that
would not normally come with the standard install of Emacs and 2)
keeping users updated on packages that are still developed and change
between releases.  Org-mode would fall into the second category since it
will probably stay in the standard package set. 

> Also, I would tend to think that this would make the most sense if we
> automate the ELPA integration s.t. every time a new revision is pushed
> up the to git repository, the ELPA version is automatically upgraded
> (with a git commit hook).  If this isn't currently possible in ELPA then
> I'd agree with a point Jambunathan makes in this thread that this is a
> trick we can help ELPA to learn.

Again, Emacs24 ELPA will be able to query multiple archives, something
that current ELPA can't.  So Emacs24 will by default look at
elpa.gnu.org and users should be able to find the latest stable version
there (it may not show up exactly in the minute it is released on
orgmode.org).  It should then be easy enough to configure ELPA (from
org-mode even?) to look for updates on orgmode.org first and get
bleeding edge from there if the user asks to do this.  If GNU ELPA
adopts a different package update policy then both the stable and
bleeding edge version would need to be on orgmode.org -- has anybody had
a chance to ask or followed the discussion on the emacs.devel list?


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[Orgmode] Re: ELPA

2010-09-28 Thread Richard Riley
Achim Gratz  writes:

> "Eric Schulte"  writes:
>> I would think that it only makes sense to have one Org-mode package in
>> ELPA, namely the bleeding edge git version of Org-mode.
>
> I disagree and my vote is still on 'maint', i.e. what a user would be
> most likely to install if he was visiting orgmode.org.  Master changes
> too often and might have experimental commits that later get reversed.
> For anybody not following the mailing list this would be exactly the
> wrong version to get through ELPA, especially since ELPA (at least in
> standard configuration) does not notify about new versions.

I'd be interested to hear how many people actually use ELPA. I haunt the
#emacs channel a little bit and I know only a handful that use it. Is
the idea that it will be used more or central to emacs in the future?



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Re: [Orgmode] Orgmode meetup at FOSDEM, February 2011. Who would come?

2010-09-28 Thread Matthew Jones
I would also be interested in attending to listen, or contribute anything
related to MobileOrg.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


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wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Please reply to this email if you'd consider to come to FOSDEM[1,2],
> February 5 and 6 next year in Brussels, in order to join an Org-mode
> meet-up there.
>
>
> - [ ] I would come and listen
> - [ ] I would come and give a talk in the devroom
>
>
> [1]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/
> [2]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms
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Re: [Orgmode] ELPA

2010-09-28 Thread Scot Becker
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Eric Schulte  wrote:
> I don't think it makes sense to use ELPA to re-distribute the version of
> Org-mode which users already have installed as part of their Emacs
> install.  Un-installing the bleeding edge Org-mode would be equivalent
> to downgrading to the Emacs version.

Sure that doesn't make sense, but remember that Emacs development
protocol is very conservative, and requires included packages to stop
all changes except bug fixes long in advance of new Emacs releases,
for stability.  This typically has had the result that an Emacs
version is released with an org-mode version which is a good few
org-mode releases behind---even on the day the Emacs release becomes
official.  In that case it would never happen that ELPA would be
re-distributing the version already installed with Emacs.  The latest
org-mode release will always be an advance on what got from a stock
Emacs.  This means that if you think that there is a place for people
to run the latest org release (as opposed to the dev version), then,
it seems, there is a decent place in ELPA for it, or?

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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode meetup at FOSDEM, February 2011. Who would come?

2010-09-28 Thread Ivan Vilata i Balaguer

Having an Org meet-up would be one more great reason to attend FOSDEM
this year! :)

Carsten Dominik (2010-09-28 19:44:30 +0200) wrote:

> Please reply to this email if you'd consider to come to FOSDEM[1,2],
> February 5 and 6 next year in Brussels, in order to join an Org-mode
> meet-up there.
>
> - [ ] I would come and listen
> - [ ] I would come and give a talk in the devroom
>
> [1]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/
> [2]  http://www.fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms

-- 
Ivan Vilata i Balaguer -- http://ivan.lovesgazpacho.net/


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Re: [Orgmode] File-level execute permissions?

2010-09-28 Thread Bill Harris
"Eric Schulte"  writes:

> Yes, you'll need to pull a copy of Org-mode from the git repository,
> anything pulled after the date of my last message will work.

Eric,

Thanks,

Bill
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[Orgmode] Re: Having (too) many files in org-agenda-files

2010-09-28 Thread Shelagh Manton
Sébastien Vauban 
writes:

> Hi,
>
> Of course, I have many, many files in Org mode. All files I write (or touch)
> in fact.
>
> Of course, I would like to search through my files at some point in time.
> I even would like to search through your files at some point in time, I mean
> through =org-mode/contrib/babel= and =Worg= for example.
[snip]
>
> You'll tell me: not a problem, you do that only once a day, and you use Emacs
> client/server for the rest of the time. True. A bit, because I sometimes have
> to restart Emacs for testing a fresh one (not impacted by defvars already
> defined, or deffaces, etc.).
>
> Having to wait almost 4 minutes is a real pain. So, here my
> comments/questions:
>
> - Isn't it possible to delay the fontification/ispell/etc. to when we really
>   display (i.e., pop up) the buffer?  I guess this must be a major component
>   of the time this takes.
>
> - Couldn't we have 2 vars: =org-agenda-files= for the files you know you want
>   have scanned for the agenda construction, and an extra list such as
>   =org-search-files= for files not containing any dates?  Then, some time
>   would have to be taken when =C-c a s=, but not before. And not if you don't
>   search for anything in your Org files during that Emacs session...
>
> Any other idea?

I use the jit-lock package that comes with emacs. "Stealth fontifying"

It makes font-lock only happen after the buffer is loaded and when you
are not doing anything else. You can access the variables through
customize-group RET jit-lock. It may be helpful here.

Shelagh
>
> Best regards,
>   Seb



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Re: [Orgmode] Having (too) many files in org-agenda-files

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Sebastian,

4 minutes of startup time is entirely unacceptable.  And I think
you need to identify what is causing this.

First of all, unless you are having to totally old Version of Emacs,
fontification at display time is standard, I believe.

You must be doing something strange, like forcing Emacs to load
all those files in org-agenda-files for example, and maybe forcing  
global

fontification for each file or so.

About a separate variable for search file, that does of cause exist:
org-agenda-text-search-extra-files

- Carsten


On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:


Hi,

Of course, I have many, many files in Org mode. All files I write  
(or touch)

in fact.

Of course, I would like to search through my files at some point in  
time.
I even would like to search through your files at some point in  
time, I mean

through =org-mode/contrib/babel= and =Worg= for example.

Hence, I put them in =org-agenda-files=:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
;; set which files to search for TODO entries and scheduled items
;; (avoiding hidden files)
(setq org-agenda-files
 (append (directory-files org-directory t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
 (if (file-exists-p "~/Projects/")
 (directory-files "~/Projects/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
   nil)
 (if (file-exists-p "~/Public/")
 (directory-files "~/Public/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")
   nil)
 (if (file-exists-p "~/Public/www.mygooglest.com/source/sva/ 
")
 (directory-files "~/Public/www.mygooglest.com/source/sva/ 
" t "^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")

   nil)
 (if (file-exists-p "~/Examples/Org-scraps/")
 (directory-files "~/Examples/Org-scraps/" t "^[^\ 
\.].*\\.txt$")

   nil)
 (if (file-exists-p "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/org- 
mode/contrib/babel/")
 (directory-files "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/org- 
mode/contrib/babel/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")

   nil)
 (if (file-exists-p "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/Worg/")
 (directory-files "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/ 
Worg/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")

   nil)
 ))
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

The problem is the load-time of my Emacs, now:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
Emacs Init startup time: 221 seconds.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

coming from 20 seconds before the heavy use of Org...

with tens of times such lines in my *Messages* buffer:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
OVERVIEW
Checking for library `filladapt'...
+-> Requiring `filladapt' (already loaded)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org...  
(regexps)

Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org...  
(regexps.)

Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org...  
(regexps..)

Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
+-> Requiring `outline-mode-easy-bindings' (already loaded)
+-> Requiring `ispell' (already loaded)
Evaluate code AFTER HAVING LOADED `flyspell'... [2 times]
Starting new Ispell process [en_US] ...
Checking for library `filladapt'...
+-> Requiring `filladapt' (already loaded)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

You'll tell me: not a problem, you do that only once a day, and you  
use Emacs
client/server for the rest of the time. True. A bit, because I  
sometimes have
to restart Emacs for testing a fresh one (not impacted by defvars  
already

defined, or deffaces, etc.).

Having to wait almost 4 minutes is a real pain. So, here my
comments/questions:

- Isn't it possible to delay the fontification/ispell/etc. to when  
we really
 display (i.e., pop up) the buffer?  I guess this must be a major  
component

 of the time this takes.

- Couldn't we have 2 vars: =org-agenda-files= for the files you know  
you want

 have scanned for the agenda construction, and an extra list such as
 =org-search-files= for files not containing any dates?  Then, some  
time
 would have to be taken when =C-c a s=, but not before. And not if  
you don't

 search for anything in your Org files during that Emacs session...

Any other idea?

Best regards,
 Seb

--
Sébastien Vauban


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Re: [Orgmode] How to capture another file's column view

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:18 AM, 濱村 文十 wrote:


I'm using org-mode 6.33x with Emacs 23.2.1 on Windows XP.

As the manual explains in 7.5.3 capturing column view, I
know I can capture other org file's column view, but I
can't get it work.
I tried to pass "c:\org\file.org" and "c:/org/file.org" or
a bunch of other values to id: parameter, but I only got a
blank table, while file.org has many entries.
What should I do?


Can you capture the column view in the current file, with id set to  
local or global?

Also, the documentation says to use:

id: "file:path-to-file"

maybe you forgot the "file:" prefix?

HTH

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] BUG ??? Cannot export custom link type to ASCII :-(

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Sebastian,

is this still an open issue?  If you, can you please summarize
again and show the code you are using for your link definition?
I am not sure if I have up to date information.

- Carsten

On Sep 6, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:


Bastien  writes:

Sebastian Rose  writes:


C-c C-e A

gives me:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable type)


This should now be fixed in git - please pull and try.


Yes, it is fixed.


I still can return what ever I want with no effect (ASCII only):




Org file:

* Test links

 [[track:((9.707032442092896 52.37033874553582))test.svg][test-track]]


ASCII-export:

1 Test links
~

 [test-track]


 [test-track]: track:((9.707032442092896 52.37033874553582))test.svg


 Sebastian



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Re: [Orgmode] inline images in org-mode

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Robert Goldman wrote:


On 9/16/10 Sep 16 -8:46 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:

Robert Goldman  writes:

... Is there some
magic I can put in the Local Variables block that will cause the  
images

to be displayed on startup?

# org-display-inline-images: t




# Local Variables:
# mode: Org
# eval: (org-display-inline-images)
# End:


 Sebastian


Would it be reasonable to augment org's processing of #+ directives so
that an org user can specify there instead of using the local  
variables,

which is less user-friendly?


Yes.  I have just implemented startup keywords `inlineimages' and
`noinlineimages', as well as a new variable
`org-startup-with-inline-images' for a global setting.

Cheers

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] BUG (maybe): org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all does not work?

2010-09-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jan 7, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Wanrong Lin wrote:


Hi,

I have some repeating tasks, and I found even with "org-agenda- 
repeating-timestamp-show-all" set to "t", the task won't show in the  
agenda if the next occurrence of this repeating task is closer to  
current time than the overdue occurrence. I am not sure I understand  
correctly the intension "org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all",  
but is there a way to change this behavior, so that task won't  
disappear? Thanks a lot for giving your idea/comments.


I am not able to reproduce this



I am using org-mode 5.18a.


And this is most likely the cause.

- Carsten


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