[Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Org-Drill: Interactive revision a la Anki/Mnemosyne

2010-08-02 Thread Detlef Steuer
Hi!

Just to give some feedback on org-drill. I had a look into writing something 
similar some time ago, but never got around learning enough emacs lisp.

I like the flexibility of org-drill and org-drill over-all.
I think you are right, when saying it is unfortunate to use 4 and 5 as synonyms 
for "I just know it, leave me alone forever".

What I really don't like is the amount of whitespace in spanisch.org, the 
example file..
May be that could be trimmed down? Or is it just your personal liking?

I couldn't handle (and wouldn't want to handle) such formatting by hand.

Anyway, thank you for providing org-drill!

Detlef

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 01:02:55 + (UTC)
Paul Sexton  wrote:

> Announcing the first release of "org-drill", a module which uses "org-learn" 
> to
> present interactive "drill sessions" of marked material in org buffers and
> files. Org-learn, which is found in org's "contrib" directory, is an
> implementation of the spaced repetition algorithm from SuperMemo.
> 
> Repository:
> http://bitbucket.org/eeeickythump/org-drill
> 
> See the preamble in org-drill.el, and the accompanying file "spanish.org", for
> documentation and examples. 
> 
> I have tried to make it quite customisable. You can set variables to control
> number of items per session, and max session duration. You can also create
> custom "card types" and write elisp functions to control how the information 
> in
> those topics is displayed.
> 
> Note that org-learn currently considers items rated 4 or 5 (ie perfect or
> excellent recall) as NEVER needing to be revised. I think this is a misfeature
> of org-learn, and I hope it will eventually be fixed. For now, if you use
> org-drill and rate items as 4 or 5, org-drill will consider them as "new" each
> time you rpeat the drill session, so they will always come up. 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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[Orgmode] MathJax - use Tex/LaTeX/MathML in HTML pages

2010-08-02 Thread Bastien
Hi all,

I just discovered and tested MathJax:

  http://www.mathjax.org

This is quite straightforward: unpack MathJax on your server (together
with the fonts zip) and it will display inline LaTeX maths in a webpage.

I thought it could be interesting to have an option for people who want
to use it instead of the current LaTeX fragments mechanism.

Anyone already using MathJax?

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[Orgmode] Re: [BABEL] Output with octave

2010-08-02 Thread d . tchin

Hi,

Dan Davison  stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:

> 
> Eric S Fraga  ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:59:43 + (UTC), d.tchin  voila.fr> 
wrote:
> >> 
> >> With :results value 
> >> 
> >> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> >> #+tblname: test
> >> | 1 | 2 | 3 |
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> #+source: outtest
> >> #+begin_src octave  :session *out*   :var vec=test :results value
> >> vecb=vec;
> >> vecb
> >> #+end_src
> >> 
> >> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> >> 
> >> I get the following output 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> #+results: outtest
> >> : org_babel_eoe
> 
> OK, perhaps you or other octave users could advise us on how to proceed
> here, as neither Eric Schulte nor I know octave. Note that this works:
> 
> #+begin_src octave :session *out* :var vec=test
> vecb=vec;
> vecb+0
> #+end_src
> 
> #+results:
> : 1.e+00 2.e+00 3.e+00
> 
> octave evaluation in org works as follows:
> - The user code is evaluated
> - The value of the variable 'ans' is written to disk and imported into
>   org
> 

> And the octave manual tells us that 'ans' is:
> 
> ,
> | The most recently computed result that was not explicitly assigned to a 
variable
> `
> 
> The trouble seems to be that the final expression 'vecb' doesn't count
> as a computation, and so doesn't change the value of ans.
> 
> So the current workaround is to say "when using octave, you must end
> your block with a computation, rather than a simple statement of a
> variable name."
> 
> Can someone suggest a better solution?
> 
> Dan
> 
> p.s. Or you could do this
> 
> #+begin_src octave :session *out* :var vec=test
> vecb=vec;
> ans=vecb
> #+end_src
> 
> #+begin_src octave :session *out* :var vec=test
> vecb=vec;
> ans=vecb
> ans
> #+end_src
> 


Thank you for the help. I will use it as it works clearly clearly well. 

Following exchange you have with Juan Pechiar related to the way the output 
is displayed, I would like to submit the following examples :

First test :

--8<---cut here---start->8---

#+tblname: test
| 1 | 2 | 3 |

#+source: outtest
#+begin_src octave  :session *out*   :var vec=test :results value vector
vecb=[vec];
ans=vecb;
#+end_src

--8<---cut here---end--->8---

The output is the following :


#+results: outtest
| 1.e+000 2.e+000 3.e+000 |


It is considered as one character and each element are not clearly
splitted in table. Certainly handled as string as Juan Pechiar.


Second test :

--8<---cut here---start->8---

#+tblname: test
| 1 | 2 | 3 |

#+source: outtestb
#+begin_src octave  :session *out*   :var vec=test :results value vector
vecb=[vec;vec];
ans=vecb;
#+end_src

--8<---cut here---end--->8---

The output is the following :

#+results: outtestb
| 1.e+000 | 2.e+000 | 3.e+000 |
| 1.e+000 | 2.e+000 | 3.e+000 |

This time output is splitted in a table as it should be ?






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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] Alphabetical ordered lists

2010-08-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,
> Nathaniel Flath writes:

> One thing that had been bugging me was the inability to have an
> ordered list of the form:

> a.  Item 1
> b.  Item 2
> c.  Item 3

> The following patch enables this, with lists going from a-z and A-Z.
> Let me know if there are any issues with it.

If I understand well your patch, I see a couple of issues with it,
that should not be hard to correct.

- you removed the code allowing to use [...@start:number] in a list;
  
- even if you recognize a. and A. lists, you only reorder from a. to
  z. (bullet start is 1- ?a, not 1- ?A);
  
- what happens when user wants to insert the 27th item in his
  alphabetically ordered list ? In other words you should have a
  function to increment such list from z. to aa.

Regards,

-- Nicolas


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[Orgmode] How can I add a DONE tag to an org file?

2010-08-02 Thread Water Lin

Here is my two questions:

1. I want to mark an org file as DONE, so I will let me know that the
file is finished and doesn't need any change.

   How can I add this similar tag to the file, or something else.

2. If I want to add some notes about the usage of this org file. How can
do it? I just want to remind me to limit the content to the topic.

Thanks

Water Lin

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Re: [Orgmode] How can I add a DONE tag to an org file?

2010-08-02 Thread Jan Böcker
On 08/02/2010 11:47 AM, Water Lin wrote:
> 
> Here is my two questions:
> 
> 1. I want to mark an org file as DONE, so I will let me know that the
> file is finished and doesn't need any change.
> 
>How can I add this similar tag to the file, or something else.

You can use file tags:
#+FILETAGS: :DONE:

Every headline in the file inherits the file tags. Note that this is
completely independent of TODO states.

> 
> 2. If I want to add some notes about the usage of this org file. How can
> do it? I just want to remind me to limit the content to the topic.

Well, Org files are plain text, so just write it anywhere convenient. If
you do not want to see it normally, you might want to put it into a
drawer somewhere (also, IIRC drawers are not exported by default), e.g.


* some node
  :FILETOPIC:
  In this file, I want to keep track of sightings of purple elephants.
  Green elephants should be recorded somewhere else.
  :END:

Maybe a better question to ask would be where people who do something
similar write their notes, and if there are any specific reasons to
prefer one place to another?

HTH, Jan

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[Orgmode] when will org-indent-mode be ready?

2010-08-02 Thread Brian Brooks
Currently using Emacs 23.1, when will org-indent-mode be usable?

Thanks,
Brian
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[Orgmode] Re: when will org-indent-mode be ready?

2010-08-02 Thread Tassilo Horn
Brian Brooks  writes:

Hi Brian,

> Currently using Emacs 23.1, when will org-indent-mode be usable?

Did you already (setq org-indent-usability-level 'high)? ;-)

Fun aside: it would be much better to tell us what inconveniences you
have with it instead of only complaining that it's not usable.

As a side note: The function `org-indent-mode' should have a more
informative docstring, and IMO the mode/file are a bit misleading in
general.  The idea of org-indent is to provide visual indentation and to
omit "real" indentation.  So maybe `org-visual-indentation-mode' and
`org-visual-indent.el' would be a bit more explanatory...

Bye,
Tassilo


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[Orgmode] [Babel] gnuplot, table entry and temporary file

2010-08-02 Thread d . tchin
Hi, 


Before asking my question, I would like to give few remarks
about use of gnuplot with org-babel and the reason why I
asked this question.
I tried to use it with org-plot but I was not really satisfied
as it didn't work clearly well with emacs installed on MS Windows.

Below a thread about this problem :
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/15036/focus=15032 

Since gnuplot is available from Babel I tried to use to check
if I have less problem with MS Windows. If I used it with 
session none and make a redirection to output file, it works 
well for me.

Below an example the way I use it :

--8<---cut here---start->8---

#+begin_src gnuplot :session none :file out.png
set terminal png
set xlabel "gx";set ylabel "gy";set zlabel "gz"
set grid xtics ytics 
set view 0,0
plot cos(x)
#+end_src

--8<---cut here---end--->8---

#+results:
[[file:out.png]]

With org-plot it was possible to give a table in entry. Org-plot 
was able to write temporary file that was used by gnuplot. 

I haven't seen such a wrapped function for gnuplot use with babel
and I wonder if it is possible to pass a table in gnuplot
block that will create a generic tmpfile.dat used by gnuplot ?

Is there a elisp function that could be use to create such file 
that could be used afterwards ?

Something that could look like this :

--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+tblname: tablein
 |  A |  B|
 ++---+
 | 257.72 | 21.39 |
 | 165.77 | 19.68 |
 |  71.00 | 11.50 |
 | 134.19 | 14.33 |
 | 257.56 | 17.67 |

#+lob: functiontowrite(table=tablein, filename="tmpfile_tablein.txt")
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


An then use tmpfile_tablein.txt in gnuplot block.

--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+begin_src gnuplot :session none :file test.png
  set terminal png
  plot 'tmpfile_tablein.txt' us 1:2
#+end_src
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Is there a tips that could be used to approach this way of doing ?





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Re: [Orgmode] No title or date in LaTeX export

2010-08-02 Thread Xin Shi
Hello,

Thank you all ! :)

Xin


On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:01 PM, John Hendy  wrote:

> Whoops -- sorry for the duplicate suggestion... a bunch of messages just
> came through!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:00 PM, John Hendy  wrote:
>
>> See this: http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg20692.html
>>
>> Key line to add in your .org header section:
>>
>> #+BIND: org-export-latex-title-command ""
>>
>> When you do C-c C-e p the minibuffer will ask if you want to apply the BIND 
>> code. Type yes and that should do it. It's been working for me in 
>> eliminating the \maketitle line.
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Xin Shi  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Experts,
>>>
>>> When I export the org file to LaTeX, I want no title or date in the first
>>> page.  Namely, I want these lines to be commented out:
>>>
>>> %\title{XX}
>>> %\date{X}
>>> %\maketitle
>>>
>>> So far, I only found
>>> #+OPTIONS: author:nil  can make:
>>>
>>> %\author{}
>>>
>>> I also tried :
>>>
>>> # Local Variables:
>>> # org-export-latex-title-command: " "
>>> # End:
>>>
>>> but still saw the \maketitle .
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Xin
>>>
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

2010-08-02 Thread Greg Troxel

Richard Moreland  writes:

> On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Erwin Panen wrote:
>
>> Further to the app badge: Would this then show the number of changes
>> like it shows on the Outlines icon or analoguous to e.g. the Mail
>> icon in the iPhones dock?  If yes, on what basis will synching
>> happen ?
>
> The badge will show the cumulate count of unsynced edit/new notes, so
> it will be the sum of the red indicator badges that show up on the
> Outlines and Capture buttons.  When you open the app and press sync,
> the badge will be cleared.

Unless there is a problem, I don't see why this should ever be off -
it's normal behavior.  I found the label confusing.  So I'd vote for
deleting the preference and just doing it.  If not, I'd make it negative
and "Suppress needing-sync count in badge".


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[Orgmode] What license for Worg?

2010-08-02 Thread Bastien
Hi all,

what is the most suitable license (or licensing scheme) for Worg?

Here is the best solution I can think of: dual-licensing[1] under the
GNU Free Documentation License 1.3[2] and the Creative Commons BY-SA
3.0[3] license.  This solution would make it possible to take excerpts
from Worg and put them into Org manual for later inclusion in Emacs,
which uses GFDL 1.3 for the Emacs manual.

Would any Worg contributor have objection to this?

I'm open to any suggestion, please let ideas flow.

Thanks,

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-licensing
[2] http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html  
[3] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

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[Orgmode] Re: [Babel] gnuplot, table entry and temporary file

2010-08-02 Thread d . tchin
  write 



Sorry, please forget the last question. 
I have just seen a thread related to gnuplot that answers 
to this question. 

Below a link to this thread :

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/27990/focus=27998




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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode[PATCH] org-export-generic, "text markup" -- and a request

2010-08-02 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:19:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de said:

t> I tried contacting the author of org-export-generic, but don't know
t> whether I succeeded. Since this little patch might be useful, here it
t> is.

You succeeded...  I'm just completely out of touch for the last two
weeks and it'll continue into next week minus this very very short break
when I actually can read mail...

Anyway, I haven't read the email chain yet but if others think the patch
is fine then it may certainly be applied!
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[Orgmode] Re: MathJax - use Tex/LaTeX/MathML in HTML pages

2010-08-02 Thread Dan Davison
Hi Bastien,

Bastien  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I just discovered and tested MathJax:
>
>   http://www.mathjax.org
>
> This is quite straightforward: unpack MathJax on your server (together
> with the fonts zip) and it will display inline LaTeX maths in a webpage.
>
> I thought it could be interesting to have an option for people who want
> to use it instead of the current LaTeX fragments mechanism.

It's quite convenient already (see below), so what exactly would the
option involve?  Can the javascript and fonts be located remotely?
I.e. can org host them like it hosts org-info.js? (I just tried that and
failed)

I wasn't aware of mathjax but I've just had a quick play.

Some notes

- MathJax appears to be the successor of jsMath (same developer)
- Darlan Cavalcante has written a Worg article[1] on using jsMath with
  org
- Basically, to use jsMath all you need is

  #+options: latex:verbatim
  #+style: 

- To convert this to MathJax, all you need to change is the path:
  /path/to/mathjax/MathJax.js
- I found that a document with lots of maths rendered visually the same
  in mathjax as jsMath
- Mathjax was considerably slower to render the maths. (I think that
  under the hood it converts to mathML which jsMath does not do (?))
- Whereas google-chrome did not work with jsMath for me, it worked fine
  with MathJax. This is nice because google-chrome produces a clean pdf
  (firefox adds the file path at the top of the document)
- We can put the latex in a src block using
  #+begin_src latex :results raw :exports results


As I said the other day[2], one reason I am excited about these
technologies is that we can produce a pdf with pretty source code
fontification via htmlize (rather than ugly[3] latex listings output)
and genuine mathematical fonts rather than ugly dvipng images. I do this
via CUPS print to file under linux, which allows the web browser to
produce a .ps or .pdf. I'd be interested to know how we can make this a
more "genuine" org export path.

Dan

>
> Anyone already using MathJax?

Footnotes:

[1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jsmath.php

[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/28150

[3] No one has replied to my post the other day, so I'll be more
contentious. Can anyone demonstrate how to make source code look
anywhere near as nice using listings in latex as with htmlize.el?

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Re: [Orgmode] PATCH: Fix for agenda problems

2010-08-02 Thread David Maus
Robert Goldman wrote:
>On 8/1/10 Aug 1 -1:28 PM, David Maus wrote:
>> Robert Goldman wrote:
>>> [1  ]
>>> As far as I can tell, the current version of org-write-agenda evaluates
>>> ps-print-buffer-with-faces too eagerly.  I tripped over this because
>>> aquamacs 2.0, which I'm using, seems to have ps-printing code that
>>> conflicts with org-mode's expectation.
>>
>>> The attached patch tries to fix this, but does not do the job
>>> particularly elegantly.  Instead of EVALUATING the flet form, it
>>> MACROEXPANDS that form, which I believe is correct in this context.
>>
>> Yes, the intension of backquoting the flet macro was macroexpansion,
>> not evaluation.  And it should work to solve the issue with cl not
>> loaded on runtime when calling `org-agenda-write'[1].
>>
>> Best,
>>   -- David
>>
>> [1] Cf. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/26132/focus=26698

>Are you sure that my patch will work properly?  I was looking at it, and
>it seems like the use of org-let might cause the list (the code) to be
>evaluated at run-time, and not at compile time, right?

AFAIK this is the case: The list is passed to org-let and evaluated
there at run-time.  The backquotes were introduced to solve this
issue: A user might run `org-write-agenda' at a point where cl hasn't
be loaded (run-time dependency on cl.el).  Because the whole lisp
structure is passed as a quoted list to org-let, the byte compiler
does not touch it.  If it is evaluated at run-time and cl.el is not
loaded, `flet' is not fbound and `org-write-agenda' fails.

Writing this I realize that the original patch (using backquotes) as
well as the proposed patch using `macroexpand' does /not/ solve this
issue completely: It solves it for running byte-compiled Org, but not
non-byte-compiled Org.

>It occurs in org-agenda.  Question:  does this mean that the backquoted
>expression will be evaluated at run-time, or is the compiler aggressive
>enough to do it at compile-time?

The backquoted expression will be evaluated at compile-time.
Backquoting `flet' removes the run-time dependency on cl.el for byte
compiled code
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/26132/focus=26698).

IMO using backquoted `macroexpand' is the way to go.  I'll see if it
works as advertised (e.g. not causing org-write-agenda to fail when
run from byte compiled Org).

Best,
  -- David

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Re: [Orgmode] What license for Worg?

2010-08-02 Thread David Maus
Bastien wrote:
>Hi all,

>what is the most suitable license (or licensing scheme) for Worg?

>Here is the best solution I can think of: dual-licensing[1] under the
>GNU Free Documentation License 1.3[2] and the Creative Commons BY-SA
>3.0[3] license.  This solution would make it possible to take excerpts
>from Worg and put them into Org manual for later inclusion in Emacs,
>which uses GFDL 1.3 for the Emacs manual.

>Would any Worg contributor have objection to this?

No objection.  Would have suggested the same.

Best,
  -- David
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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode[PATCH] org-export-generic, "text markup" -- and a request

2010-08-02 Thread tomas
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On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 06:54:44AM -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:19:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de said:
> 
> t> I tried contacting the author of org-export-generic, but don't know
> t> whether I succeeded. Since this little patch might be useful, here it
> t> is.
> 
> You succeeded...  I'm just completely out of touch for the last two
> weeks and it'll continue into next week minus this very very short break
> when I actually can read mail...

Do take your time. No impatience here.

> Anyway, I haven't read the email chain yet but if others think the patch
> is fine then it may certainly be applied!

I do hate myself how I did some things (the naming could take some
discussion. For example: "text markup" is a bad name. I don't know how
to subsume "strong", "emphasized"...). Besides, I'm unsure about this
hook-adding business within the unwind-protect. Maybe others could chime
in?

Thanks, regards
- -- tomás
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[Orgmode] Re: What license for Worg?

2010-08-02 Thread Bernt Hansen
David Maus  writes:

> Bastien wrote:
>>Hi all,
>
>>what is the most suitable license (or licensing scheme) for Worg?
>
>>Here is the best solution I can think of: dual-licensing[1] under the
>>GNU Free Documentation License 1.3[2] and the Creative Commons BY-SA
>>3.0[3] license.  This solution would make it possible to take excerpts
>>from Worg and put them into Org manual for later inclusion in Emacs,
>>which uses GFDL 1.3 for the Emacs manual.
>
>>Would any Worg contributor have objection to this?
>
> No objection.  Would have suggested the same.

No objection here either.

-Bernt

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[Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Org-Drill: Interactive revision a la Anki/Mnemosyne

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Sexton
Detlef Steuer  gmx.de> writes:

> 
> Hi!
> 
> Just to give some feedback on org-drill. I had a look into writing something 
> similar some time ago, but never got around learning enough emacs lisp.
[...]

Thanks for the feedback. If by whitespace you mean blank lines, that's not a
requirement of org-drill. Org-drill just deals with topics and subtopics, how
you format their contents is up to you. You could delete all the blank lines in
spanish.org and it would work the same.

Paul





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[Orgmode] [mobileorg-android] Files synced, but nothing showing

2010-08-02 Thread Jonathan Arkell
Hi Orgers.

This could easily be a PEBKAC issue, I have pushed the files to my webdav with 
org-mobile-push, but when I try to sync with my webdav folder using MobileOrg, 
I get a blank MobileOrg screen.  Also, the mobileorg directory on my SD card is 
empty.  This is using version 0.4 alpha.

When I try to capture something, it seems to work (mobileorg.org file is 
created, with my captured entry).  During the sync, mobileorg.org is sent to 
the webdav server.

my index.org is just a simple set of links like so:

[[View20K.org]]
[[View30K.org]]
...
[[Game.org]]
[[Music.org]]


Can anyone help?  What Am I doing wrong?

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