[Orgmode] Useful utility function: org-sort-multi
I found myself having to sort by multiple criteria, and I was doing it with multiple calls to org-sort-entries-or-items. Then I decided to abstract the repetition into a function. Here it is: (defun org-sort-multi (&rest sort-types) "Sort successively by a list of criteria, in descending order of importance. For example, sort first by TODO status, then by priority, then by date, then alphabetically, case-sensitive. Each criterion is either a character or a cons pair (BOOL . CHAR), where BOOL is whether or not to sort case-sensitively, and CHAR is one of the characters defined in ``org-sort-entries-or-items''. So, the example above could be accomplished with: (org-sort-multi ?o ?p ?t (t . ?a))" (interactive) (mapc #'(lambda (sort-type) (when (characterp sort-type) (setq sort-type (cons nil sort-type))) (org-sort-entries-or-items (car sort-type) (cdr sort-type))) (reverse sort-types))) Note the call to reverse. This makes it so that the first criterion you provide is the dominant criterion. Try it out to see how it works, and let me know if there's a better way to pass the arguments. Just as an example, the particular sorting function I wanted to write now becomes this: (defun org-sort-custom () "Sort children of node by todo status and by priority and by date, so the * TODO [#A] items with latest dates go to the top." (interactive) (org-sort-multi ?o ?p ?T)) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] How to hyperlink a file whose name has `space' ?
`file:' can link a file on disk . But my file's name has `space' in it . How to hyperlink that file? Thanks ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to hyperlink a file whose name has `space' ?
waterloo wrote: > `file:' can link a file on disk . > > But my file's name has `space' in it . > > How to hyperlink that file? > Hex-encode the space (or other special characters): [[file:/path/to/foo%20bar][foo bar]] Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: How to hyperlink a file whose name has `space' ?
Nick Dokos writes: > waterloo wrote: > >> `file:' can link a file on disk . >> >> But my file's name has `space' in it . >> >> How to hyperlink that file? >> > > Hex-encode the space (or other special characters): > > [[file:/path/to/foo%20bar][foo bar]] > And if you want this to happen automatically, you can create the link by calling org-insert-link with a prefix argument (C-u C-c C-l). This will provide an interactive prompt for navigating to the file. - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-gnus-prefer-web-links
Hello, I set org-gnus-prefer-web-links to t so that org-remember stores links to gmane nntp groups as web links rather than links to gnus. Recently (within the last week or so) org-store-link no longer creates the web link. Previously the stored link looked like this: http://mid.gmane.org/m24os8lym6.fsf%40fastmail.fm Now the link to the same article looks like this: gnus:nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.orgmode#m24os8lym6@fastmail.fm Does this have something to do with the recent patches to org-gnus.el? Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] small emacs for using org on Android
I'm not the most qualified person to answer this, since I'm only an observer to emacs development, but I have some experience trying to compile a reduced-size version of Emacs 23, so I'll add my two pence until someone can inform you better. I tried to cut down emacs for my own use (basically, an older laptop in which I was running TinyCore linux from RAM, and wanted to put emacs+org into RAM as well). I found that GNU Emacs seems not to be designed with modularity in mind. In fact, my read of the devel list is that the opposite virtue is espoused: reuse existing code where possible. Add to this that the program (as I'm sure you know) is quite complex. Even if there were a smaller Lisp interpreter, it probably would fail at a number of points to do the things that org-mode (and the Emacs parts org depends on) needs. In this case, I don't think you'll get a smaller engine to drive the same car. Sorry. What you might have some luck with is slicing away gingerly at your existing Emacs distribution. For example, you might try: (1) making sure that there are no Lisp source files for libraries which exist as byte compiled files (delete blah.el where there is a blah.elc). (2) slicing the info documentation down to the bone, and gzipping the remainder. (3) removing modes you don't need. This will take some experimentation. org-mode won't compile without 'calc' 'calendar' and even Gnus, but might run without gnus if you don't need whatever feature it borrows. Also, other modes derive from more basic modes or other wise re-use other modes' code. So you may run into errors, which you'll have to fix by adding the missing pieces back in. (4) You can cut out input methods and terminal types you don't need. (5) I expect Emacs 22 is smaller than emacs 23, and you may even find that Emacs 21 meets your needs, though org-mode apparently has some limitations on it. I suspect that judicious experimental cutting is the only way (aside from compression) that you'll get a smaller GNU Emacs and org mode. Good luck. HTH, Scot On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, wrote: > Hi, > can anyone recommend a small emacs implementation that will run org? > I have Debian running on my G1 phone (see here: > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid), > and have been running Emacs 22 on it successfully. > However it doesn't leave me much memory for other apps. > > I have had a look through some of the implementations listed here: > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/EmacsImplementations > > but it seems that most of them are not full elisp interpreters and so > I'm not sure that org-mode will work. > > -- > aleblanc > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
Hi all Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. | filename | descript| P | | mgmt_admin/mgmt_dashboard.rhtml| portal for system dashboard | P0 | | mgmt_admin/site_dashboard.html | portal for rmg dashboard| P0 | | mgmt/node_dashboard.html | portal for node dashboard | P0 | | mgmt/_node_disk_list.rhtml | Disk Information| P0 | | mgmt/_alert_table.html.erb | Alerts | | | mgmt/_alert_list.html.erb | | | | tenant_admin/user_and_group.html.erb | | | | mgmt/_recovery_object_list.html.erb| Impacted Object Number | P0 | | mgmt_controller.rb:2126:node_dashboard | | | | mgmt_admin/_rmg_node_list.html.erb | | | -- Thanks & Regards Denny Zhang ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:40 PM, filebat Mark wrote: Hi all Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. | filename | descript| P | | mgmt_admin/mgmt_dashboard.rhtml| portal for system dashboard | P0 | | mgmt_admin/site_dashboard.html | portal for rmg dashboard| P0 | | mgmt/node_dashboard.html | portal for node dashboard | P0 | | mgmt/_node_disk_list.rhtml | Disk Information| P0 | | mgmt/_alert_table.html.erb | Alerts || | mgmt/_alert_list.html.erb | || | tenant_admin/user_and_group.html.erb | || | mgmt/_recovery_object_list.html.erb| Impacted Object Number | P0 | | mgmt_controller.rb:2126:node_dashboard | || | mgmt_admin/_rmg_node_list.html.erb | || Actually, looks just fine to me! - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
The table is not aligned. It suffers~~ 2009/8/29 Carsten Dominik > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:40 PM, filebat Mark wrote: > > Hi all >> >> Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. >> >> The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. >> >> | filename | descript| P >> | >> | mgmt_admin/mgmt_dashboard.rhtml| portal for system dashboard | >> P0 | >> | mgmt_admin/site_dashboard.html | portal for rmg dashboard| >> P0 | >> | mgmt/node_dashboard.html | portal for node dashboard | >> P0 | >> | mgmt/_node_disk_list.rhtml | Disk Information| >> P0 | >> | mgmt/_alert_table.html.erb | Alerts | >> | >> | mgmt/_alert_list.html.erb | | >> | >> | tenant_admin/user_and_group.html.erb | | >> | >> | mgmt/_recovery_object_list.html.erb| Impacted Object Number | >> P0 | >> | mgmt_controller.rb:2126:node_dashboard | | >> | >> | mgmt_admin/_rmg_node_list.html.erb | | >> | >> >> >> > Actually, looks just fine to me! > > - Carsten > > -- Thanks & Regards Denny Zhang ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
It still looks fine to me, maybe you are not using a fixed-width font in your email? - Carsten On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:00 PM, filebat Mark wrote: The table is not aligned. It suffers~~ 2009/8/29 Carsten Dominik On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:40 PM, filebat Mark wrote: Hi all Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. | filename | descript| P | | mgmt_admin/mgmt_dashboard.rhtml| portal for system dashboard | P0 | | mgmt_admin/site_dashboard.html | portal for rmg dashboard| P0 | | mgmt/node_dashboard.html | portal for node dashboard | P0 | | mgmt/_node_disk_list.rhtml | Disk Information| P0 | | mgmt/_alert_table.html.erb | Alerts || | mgmt/_alert_list.html.erb | || | tenant_admin/user_and_group.html.erb | || | mgmt/_recovery_object_list.html.erb| Impacted Object Number | P0 | | mgmt_controller.rb:2126:node_dashboard | || | mgmt_admin/_rmg_node_list.html.erb | || Actually, looks just fine to me! - Carsten -- Thanks & Regards Denny Zhang ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
If you need the same experience for each recipient, you need to either mark the ext as fixed width, or use HTML in the email. - Carsten On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:08 PM, filebat Mark wrote: Hi Carsten This is what I see in the email(see the attachment). I just want to make sure every recipient don't see the messed table. Though it may sounds like invalid requirement, I really need it badly. Thanks, Denny 2009/8/29 Carsten Dominik It still looks fine to me, maybe you are not using a fixed-width font in your email? - Carsten On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:00 PM, filebat Mark wrote: The table is not aligned. It suffers~~ 2009/8/29 Carsten Dominik On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:40 PM, filebat Mark wrote: Hi all Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. | filename | descript| P | | mgmt_admin/mgmt_dashboard.rhtml| portal for system dashboard | P0 | | mgmt_admin/site_dashboard.html | portal for rmg dashboard| P0 | | mgmt/node_dashboard.html | portal for node dashboard | P0 | | mgmt/_node_disk_list.rhtml | Disk Information| P0 | | mgmt/_alert_table.html.erb | Alerts || | mgmt/_alert_list.html.erb | || | tenant_admin/user_and_group.html.erb | || | mgmt/_recovery_object_list.html.erb| Impacted Object Number | P0 | | mgmt_controller.rb:2126:node_dashboard | || | mgmt_admin/_rmg_node_list.html.erb | || Actually, looks just fine to me! - Carsten -- Thanks & Regards Denny Zhang -- Thanks & Regards Denny Zhang ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
Carsten Dominik writes: > On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:40 PM, filebat Mark wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. >> >> The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. > > Actually, looks just fine to me! > > - Carsten Looks fine to me too. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
Hi Bernt I used the default font in gmail, then it looks messy. If I use the certain font, like "courier New", then it aligns very well. No idea why it looks fine in your side and bad in my side. Anyway, it works for me, if I stick to fixed font as Carsten has said. 2009/8/30 Bernt Hansen > Carsten Dominik writes: > > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:40 PM, filebat Mark wrote: > > > >> Hi all > >> > >> Do you have any suggestion for copying tables from org-mode to email. > >> > >> The format is messed up. Please see the sample below. > > > > > > Actually, looks just fine to me! > > > > - Carsten > > Looks fine to me too. > > -Bernt > -- Thanks & Regards Denny Zhang ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: table format is messed up, when it is copied from org-mode to email
filebat Mark writes: > I used the default font in gmail, then it looks messy. > If I use the certain font, like "courier New", then it aligns very well. > > No idea why it looks fine in your side and bad in my side. > Anyway, it works for me, if I stick to fixed font as Carsten has said. I use gnus - which is a fixed based font (in Emacs) -- that's why it works fine for me. Proportional spaced fonts will mess it up. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Can effort be edited conveniently outside column view?
Michael Gilbert writes: > Still working on developing my use of effort estimates. Is there a way > to conveniently enter an effort estimate without entering column mode? Hi Michael, I find column mode the easiest personally. My setup is described at http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#TaskEstimates Starting column mode for a single entry (not a huge org file) should be really fast. Then right arrow to the effort column and enter your quick-key for the value you want. I actually assign effort values in my refile agenda view. This shows a bunch of tasks (normally less than 20) and I assign efforts to each one before refiling them. If an entry already has an effort value you can go to the property in the property drawer and cycle through the preset values with S-right and S-left. HTH, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: insert/delete rows in column view
On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:40 PM, David Bremner wrote: Maybe this is difficult for reasons I don't know about, but it would be very nice to insert and delete rows in column view. I agree that deleting a row could kill a lot of text, but no differently than a folded view. For inserting, maybe below the current row. Of course then I'll be wanting to edit structure too, move rows up and down and change their indent level. What is so bad about exiting column view, doing the structure changes and then going back in? The problem is that structure changes potentially affect summary columns, so it is not a good idea to do this in column view. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: insert/delete rows in column view
Carsten Dominik wrote: >What is so bad about exiting column view, doing the structure >changes and then going back in? The problem is that structure changes >potentially affect summary columns, so it is not a good idea to do this >in column view. I can certainly live with it. I made the request after spending a day editing a document in column view, and finding my fingers kept hitting C-k and , and discovering they did nothing in column view. So my brain is fine with the concept; I expect the fingers will catch up eventually. David ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: insert/delete rows in column view
On Aug 29, 2009, at 8:00 PM, David Bremner wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: What is so bad about exiting column view, doing the structure changes and then going back in? The problem is that structure changes potentially affect summary columns, so it is not a good idea to do this in column view. I can certainly live with it. I made the request after spending a day editing a document in column view, and finding my fingers kept hitting C-k and , and discovering they did nothing in column view. So my brain is fine with the concept; I expect the fingers will catch up eventually. :-) - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] hide-other
What do you suggest as an alternative key combination for hide-other? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: hide-other
Sean Sieger writes: > What do you suggest as an alternative key combination for hide-other? I make custom key bindings on function keys that are not already mapped to something - that way they are unlikely to conflict with future key bindings. I like to use f9-something for commands and f9-h makes sense to me in this case. (global-set-key (kbd " h") 'hide-other) -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: hide-other
Bernt Hansen writes: I like to use f9-something for commands and f9-h makes sense to me in this case. (global-set-key (kbd " h") 'hide-other) ... and thank you for the example. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: small emacs for using org on Android
Scot Becker writes: How do I remove unwanted modes? Is it just a case of removing the .el files? > I'm not the most qualified person to answer this, since I'm only an > observer to emacs development, but I have some experience trying to > compile a reduced-size version of Emacs 23, so I'll add my two pence > until someone can inform you better. > > I tried to cut down emacs for my own use (basically, an older laptop > in which I was running TinyCore linux from RAM, and wanted to put > emacs+org into RAM as well). I found that GNU Emacs seems not to be > designed with modularity in mind. In fact, my read of the devel list > is that the opposite virtue is espoused: reuse existing code where > possible. Add to this that the program (as I'm sure you know) is > quite complex. Even if there were a smaller Lisp interpreter, it > probably would fail at a number of points to do the things that > org-mode (and the Emacs parts org depends on) needs. In this case, I > don't think you'll get a smaller engine to drive the same car. Sorry. > > What you might have some luck with is slicing away gingerly at your > existing Emacs distribution. For example, you might try: (1) making > sure that there are no Lisp source files for libraries which exist as > byte compiled files (delete blah.el where there is a blah.elc). (2) > slicing the info documentation down to the bone, and gzipping the > remainder. (3) removing modes you don't need. This will take some > experimentation. org-mode won't compile without 'calc' 'calendar' and > even Gnus, but might run without gnus if you don't need whatever > feature it borrows. Also, other modes derive from more basic modes or > other wise re-use other modes' code. So you may run into errors, > which you'll have to fix by adding the missing pieces back in. (4) > You can cut out input methods and terminal types you don't need. (5) > I expect Emacs 22 is smaller than emacs 23, and you may even find that > Emacs 21 meets your needs, though org-mode apparently has some > limitations on it. > > I suspect that judicious experimental cutting is the only way (aside > from compression) that you'll get a smaller GNU Emacs and org mode. > Good luck. > > HTH, > Scot > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, wrote: >> Hi, >> can anyone recommend a small emacs implementation that will run org? >> I have Debian running on my G1 phone (see here: >> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid), >> and have been running Emacs 22 on it successfully. >> However it doesn't leave me much memory for other apps. >> >> I have had a look through some of the implementations listed here: >> >> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/EmacsImplementations >> >> but it seems that most of them are not full elisp interpreters and so >> I'm not sure that org-mode will work. >> >> -- >> aleblanc >> >> >> >> ___ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode Hi Scot, -- aleblanc ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] EDB and org?
This may be a stretch, in fact I am quite sure it is. I am surprized that I have never seen a reference to EDB (Emacs Data Base) on the list, or elsewhere, with reference to org-mode. I had an elaborate scheme at one time to keep my addresses in EDB, and output templates to set up a latex letter, with multiple recipients if so desired, and of course multiple letters. I'm not sure how, but it occurs to me that org mode and EDB have some common threads of this kind. I have tried to implement an address book/contact system using properties, but it was very clumsy, at least in the way I did it. Has anyone done ANYTHING interesting using EDB with org-mode? Alan Davis You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. Richard Feynman ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: EDB and org?
"Alan E. Davis" writes: > This may be a stretch, in fact I am quite sure it is. I am surprized > that I have never seen a reference to EDB (Emacs Data Base) on the > list, or elsewhere, with reference to org-mode. I had an elaborate > scheme at one time to keep my addresses in EDB, and output templates > to set up a latex letter, with multiple recipients if so desired, and > of course multiple letters. > > I'm not sure how, but it occurs to me that org mode and EDB have some > common threads of this kind. I have tried to implement an address > book/contact system using properties, but it was very clumsy, at least > in the way I did it. > > Has anyone done ANYTHING interesting using EDB with org-mode? EDB? What's that?? I've never heard of it before. I just use bbdb for my addressbook and that works great for me. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: EDB and org?
I wonder if org could completely replace bbdb. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode