R: [Orgmode] Re: Updating Emacs to latest org-release on MS Windows?

2009-07-08 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi

--- Mar 7/7/09, Matthew Lundin  ha scritto:
> In case this question comes up again, I put up an FAQ
> pointing to this
> mailing list thread.

Matt, 

do you think it is worth to add a "make clean" in the faq?
i.e.:

without using the customary " /make clean/ &&  make && make install". 
 ^^^
cheers,
Giovanni





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Re: [Orgmode] A MindMap export would be awesome

2009-07-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien  writes:

Hi Bastien,

>> Hah, great!  Now please tell me that Freemind is scriptable, so that
>> an export from org to svg mindmap is just a fingertip away.
>
> Good to know - maybe a tutorial on this would be of interest to many
> people here?  Not pushing you, of course... :)

I added some investigation TODO to my list.  But don't hold your breath.

Bye,
Tassilo


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Re: [Orgmode] A MindMap export would be awesome

2009-07-08 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote:


Bastien  writes:

Hi Bastien,


Hah, great!  Now please tell me that Freemind is scriptable, so that
an export from org to svg mindmap is just a fingertip away.


Good to know - maybe a tutorial on this would be of interest to many
people here?  Not pushing you, of course... :)


I added some investigation TODO to my list.  But don't hold your  
breath.




I think it is scriptable

http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Example_scripts

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Re: performance problems with drawers

2009-07-08 Thread Al
Carsten Dominik  gmail.com> writes:
Hello Carsten,

 
> Hi Al,
> 
> first of all, I cannot reproduce the fact that drawers have such
> a major influence on time, wit a test file that I created to
> be similar to what you describe.
> 
> There is a way to speed up drawer handling, by using text properties
> instead of overlays.  How have some vague plans to do this, but  
> nothing concrete or soon.
> 
> - Carsten
> 
> On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Al wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm trying to use emacs org-mode to keep my bookmarks (using the
> > org-annotation-helper.el method). I find this really great, except  
> > performance
> > issues.
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > Is there a solution to improve the speed and using the drawers ?


Thanks for your answer, if you want I can send you an example file (160kB
compressed).

There are also performance problems just when moving the cursor up and down.

Just for the records, I'm using emacs-gtk 22.3.1 and org-mode 6.27a-1 on a
debian linux setup.





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[Orgmode] Offline

2009-07-08 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi everyone,

I will be basically offline until August 1.  Bastien has the keys,
should any changes to Org-mode or the website be necessary during
this time.

Please keep the spirit up, help the newbies, go vote at sourceforge
if you have not done so yet, and enjoy your summer.  Yes, I know,
we do have users below the equator - you go and enjoy your
winter :-)

Thanks for another fun year on emacs-orgm...@gnu.org.  Think
about how far we have come since I went to Google last year
to give that talk, which by now almost 35000 people have watched
it in full length.  Amazing.

It has been and is a pleasure and an honor to work and discuss
here with you all.

- Carsten




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Re: [Orgmode] BUG-Resume clock on startup

2009-07-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Carsten Dominik  writes:

> On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:25 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> I have a monthly repeated task (Archive tasks) that has lots of old
>> clock time on it currently but has never been marked DONE since the
>> creation of the property LAST_REPEAT_TIME.  If this task is clocking
>> when Emacs exits and you restart emacs and answer Yes to continue the
>> clock - the modeline has the total time for the parent task (151:04
>> instead of the total time for this task (5:04).  If I clock the task
>> in
>> again the modeline is correct.
>
> I don't think this can be avoided for a transition period, until each
> such tasks has the new property.
>
> O course you can go to all these tasks and add the LAST_REPEAT
> property yourself.

The bug isn't that the LAST_REPEAT is missing - but that the modeline
has the total time for the parent task of the one that gets clocked in.

-Bernt


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Re: [Orgmode] BUG-Resume clock on startup

2009-07-08 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:


Carsten Dominik  writes:


On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:25 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote:


Hi Carsten,

I have a monthly repeated task (Archive tasks) that has lots of old
clock time on it currently but has never been marked DONE since the
creation of the property LAST_REPEAT_TIME.  If this task is clocking
when Emacs exits and you restart emacs and answer Yes to continue  
the

clock - the modeline has the total time for the parent task (151:04
instead of the total time for this task (5:04).  If I clock the task
in
again the modeline is correct.


I don't think this can be avoided for a transition period, until each
such tasks has the new property.

O course you can go to all these tasks and add the LAST_REPEAT
property yourself.


The bug isn't that the LAST_REPEAT is missing - but that the modeline
has the total time for the parent task of the one that gets clocked  
in.


Ah, sorry, I misread.

This bug has been fixed.

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Re: BUG-Resume clock on startup

2009-07-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Carsten Dominik  writes:

> On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>
>> The bug isn't that the LAST_REPEAT is missing - but that the modeline
>> has the total time for the parent task of the one that gets clocked
>> in.
>
> Ah, sorry, I misread.
>
> This bug has been fixed.

Thanks!  Apologies if I wasn't clear on my first post.

-Bernt


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[Orgmode] Underscores again - HTML and LaTeX exporting.

2009-07-08 Thread Nick Dokos
I found this by trying to export Bernt Hansen's org-mode tutorial [1] to
HTML and LaTeX. Bernt's IRC nick is Thumper_ and it appears in the
AUTHOR option as follows:

#+AUTHOR: Bernt Hansen (IRC:Thumper_ on freenode)

When exported to HTML, everything is fine. When exported to LaTeX, LaTeX
complains about missing $. The problem does *not* arise if the underscore
is in most other places in the org file, but I found one more place where it
does arise: in a headline, when the underscore begins the word.

Here is a small test file (hi, Sébastien;-) :

--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+AUTHOR: Nick (nick_)
#+OPTIONS: ^:{}


* foo foo_bar foo_ _bar
  foo
  foo_bar
  foo_
  _bar
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Everything works except the nick_ on the AUTHOR line and the _bar in
the headline.

BTW, I also tried the ^:nil option, but it did not make any difference.

Thanks,
Nick

[1] http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html - the org file is at 
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.org


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[Orgmode] Re: [OS X Emacs] org-mode and Aquamacs tabs

2009-07-08 Thread David Reitter

Tom,

there is only one header line available in Emacs.  Changing this would  
require the implementation of an additional "tab line" in the  
redisplay, window and frame management code (C level).  I'm not aware  
of anyone who would be able and willing to implement this kind of stuff.


I found it helpful though to set the defaults for header line use by  
modes so that the header line is not snatched from tabbar-mode.


- David


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http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and  
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On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:


Aloha all,

Org-mode's agenda column view puts column headers where Aquamacs has  
tabs, overwriting the tabs.  I don't know if this is an Aquamacs  
issue or an org-mode issue, but it would be nice if two terrific  
pieces of software cooperated better in this one small instance.


All the best,
Tom




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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [OS X Emacs] org-mode and Aquamacs tabs

2009-07-08 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Thanks Carsten and David,

Can someone provide examples of "defaults for header line use by  
modes" mentioned by David that keep Aquamacs tabs and suppress org- 
mode agenda column heads if the tab bar is active in Aquamacs?


All the best,
Tom

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Phone: (808) 529-0866 Fax: (808) 529-0884
http://www.tsdye.com

On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:05 AM, David Reitter wrote:


Tom,

there is only one header line available in Emacs.  Changing this  
would require the implementation of an additional "tab line" in the  
redisplay, window and frame management code (C level).  I'm not  
aware of anyone who would be able and willing to implement this kind  
of stuff.


I found it helpful though to set the defaults for header line use by  
modes so that the header line is not snatched from tabbar-mode.


- David


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http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor  
and support the Aquamacs Project!




On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:


Aloha all,

Org-mode's agenda column view puts column headers where Aquamacs  
has tabs, overwriting the tabs.  I don't know if this is an  
Aquamacs issue or an org-mode issue, but it would be nice if two  
terrific pieces of software cooperated better in this one small  
instance.


All the best,
Tom


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Re: R: [Orgmode] Re: Updating Emacs to latest org-release on MS Windows?

2009-07-08 Thread Matthew Lundin
Giovanni Ridolfi  writes:

> --- Mar 7/7/09, Matthew Lundin  ha scritto:
>> In case this question comes up again, I put up an FAQ
>> pointing to this
>> mailing list thread.
>
> Matt, 
>
> do you think it is worth to add a "make clean" in the faq?
> i.e.:
>
> without using the customary " /make clean/ &&  make && make install". 

Thanks. I just added this.

- Matt


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[Orgmode] Choosing local org package instead of sitewide

2009-07-08 Thread Kyle Sexton
I would like to run a local copy of org pulled from the latest git instead
of the sitewide version installed with emacs.  How can I specify that emacs
should use the copy in my ~/elisp/org directory instead of the sitewide
version?

Probably a simple question, but deleting the sitewide org directory doesn't
seem like the right solution. :P

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Re: [Orgmode] A MindMap export would be awesome

2009-07-08 Thread Charles Philip Chan
Tassilo Horn  writes:

Hello Tassilo:

> Hah, great!  Now please tell me that Freemind is scriptable, so that
> an export from org to svg mindmap is just a fingertip away.

It looks like it is possible with Freemind 0.9:

http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Scripting

Cheers,
Charles

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Re: [Orgmode] Choosing local org package instead of sitewide

2009-07-08 Thread Sebastian Rose
Kyle Sexton  writes:
> I would like to run a local copy of org pulled from the latest git instead
> of the sitewide version installed with emacs.  How can I specify that emacs
> should use the copy in my ~/elisp/org directory instead of the sitewide
> version?
>
> Probably a simple question, but deleting the sitewide org directory doesn't
> seem like the right solution. :P


Important:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/LoadPath also says this here:

Preference is given to compiled files when both a compiled file and
a source file are found. Therefore, make sure to recompile files
after making changes to them – or don’t compile the files at all.



  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Choosing local org package instead of sitewide

2009-07-08 Thread Sebastian Rose
Kyle Sexton  writes:
> I would like to run a local copy of org pulled from the latest git instead
> of the sitewide version installed with emacs.  How can I specify that emacs
> should use the copy in my ~/elisp/org directory instead of the sitewide
> version?
>
> Probably a simple question, but deleting the sitewide org directory doesn't
> seem like the right solution. :P

Hm - depends on how you install emacs. I follow the CVS emacs as well
and remove the /usr/local/share/emacs/23.X.Y/lisp/org/ directory after
each re-install.

But:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/LoadPath states:

The variable load-path lists all the directories where Emacs should
look for elisp files. They are searched in order. The first file
found is used, therefore the order of the directories might be
relevant.


This should use the GIT version (assumed it's in ~/.emacs.d/lisp/org):

  (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/lisp/org/")



  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Underscores again - HTML and LaTeX exporting.

2009-07-08 Thread Sebastian Rose
Nick Dokos  writes:
> I found this by trying to export Bernt Hansen's org-mode tutorial [1] to
> HTML and LaTeX. Bernt's IRC nick is Thumper_ and it appears in the
> AUTHOR option as follows:
>
> #+AUTHOR: Bernt Hansen (IRC:Thumper_ on freenode)
>
> When exported to HTML, everything is fine. When exported to LaTeX, LaTeX
> complains about missing $. The problem does *not* arise if the underscore
> is in most other places in the org file, but I found one more place where it
> does arise: in a headline, when the underscore begins the word.
>
> Here is a small test file (hi, Sébastien;-) :
>
>
> #+AUTHOR: Nick (nick_)
> #+OPTIONS: ^:{}
>
>
> * foo foo_bar foo_ _bar
>   foo
>   foo_bar
>   foo_
>   _bar
>
> Everything works except the nick_ on the AUTHOR line and the _bar in
> the headline.


Seems part of it happens in a loop with a wrong counter?


This works for the `foo_ _bar' part of it:



* foo foo_bar foo_ _bar
  foo
  foo_bar
  foo_
  _bar



  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Underscores again - HTML and LaTeX exporting.

2009-07-08 Thread Nick Dokos
Sebastian Rose  wrote:


> >
> > #+AUTHOR: Nick (nick_)
> > #+OPTIONS: ^:{}
> >
> >
> > * foo foo_bar foo_ _bar
> >   foo
> >   foo_bar
> >   foo_
> >   _bar
> >
> > Everything works except the nick_ on the AUTHOR line and the _bar in
> > the headline.
> 
> 
> Seems part of it happens in a loop with a wrong counter?
> 
> 
> This works for the `foo_ _bar' part of it:
> 
> 
> 
> * foo foo_bar foo_ _bar
>   foo
>   foo_bar
>   foo_
>   _bar
> 

Right you are - thanks for testing and finding that!

My suspicion is a not-quire-right regexp in this case (I suspect the
AUTHOR line, as well as other such export options lines, is not
processed at all). But I haven't gone looking yet.

Thanks,
Nick


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[Orgmode] further on compiling development version of org-mode without make command

2009-07-08 Thread Eric S Fraga
Hello again,

Although Sebastian's elisp code was perfect for batch compiling the
lisp/*.el files in the org distribution, it doesn't address one key
element of the make step required: the creation of the
org-install.el file.

I've (with my rather rudimentary elisp skills) modified the function
as follows to incorporate the commands from the Makefile which are
used to create the org-install.el file:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
;; functions from Sebastian Rose  
;; to compile all org files in lieu of a make utility,
;; modified by me to create and compile the org-install.el file
(defvar my/org-lisp-directory "~/git/org-mode/lisp"
  "Directory where your org-mode files live.")
;; adjust my/org-lisp-directory: 
(setq my/org-lisp-directory "~/git/org-mode/lisp")
(defun my/compile-org()
  "Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode."
  (interactive)
  (dired my/org-lisp-directory)
  (dired-mark-files-regexp "\\.el$")
  (setq list-of-org-files (dired-get-marked-files))
  (dired-do-load)
  (dired-do-byte-compile)
  ;; create the org-install file 
  (require 'autoload)
  (setq esf/org-install-file (concat my/org-lisp-directory "org-install.el"))
  (find-file esf/org-install-file)
  (erase-buffer)
  (mapc (lambda (x)
  (generate-file-autoloads x))
list-of-org-files
)
  (insert "\n(provide (quote org-install))\n")
  (save-buffer)
  (byte-compile-file esf/org-install-file)
  
)
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Comments of any sort are more than welcome!  It seems to work (but
only time will tell).  Actually, I probably need to delete any
existing org-install.el file first... any suggestions on the best way
to do this would be more than welcome!

Thanks,
eric



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[Orgmode] Dynamically adjusti tags position

2009-07-08 Thread Benjamin Andresen
hey there,

I wrote a bit of code that allows me to have the tags always at the
utmost right position in the file... I often have windows that are
bigger than the standard 80 characters wide default and I dislike seeing
the tags in the middle of the window.

I started doing this and found out that adjusting the tags every time I
resize a window breaks tracking org-mode files with git. If the last
window is just a bit smaller than last time, the complete line will be
shown as a diff. Therefor hooks are used to reset the column variable to
1 so that git tracking still works.

If anyone wants to use this or want to look over it if I could do this
smarter, I'm very happy.

If the response is positive I'll clean it up a bit and maybe it is worth
a contribution or a worg page. :-)

best regards,
benny

(defcustom ba/org-adjust-tags-column t)
(setq ba/org-adjust-tags-column t)

(defun ba/org-adjust-tags-column-reset-tags ()
  (when (and
 (not (string= (buffer-name) "*Remember*"))
 (eql major-mode 'org-mode))
(let ((b-m-p (buffer-modified-p)))
  (condition-case nil
  (save-excursion
(goto-char (point-min))
(command-execute 'outline-next-visible-heading)
;; disable (message) that org-set-tags generates
(flet ((message (&rest ignored) nil))
  (org-set-tags 1 t))
(set-buffer-modified-p b-m-p))
(error nil)

(defun ba/org-adjust-tags-column-now ()
  (set (make-local-variable 'org-tags-column)
   (- (- (window-width) 3)))
  (ba/org-adjust-tags-column-reset-tags))

(defun ba/org-adjust-tags-column-maybe ()
  (when ba/org-adjust-tags-column
(ba/org-adjust-tags-column-now)))

(defun ba/org-adjust-tags-column-before-save ()
  (when ba/org-adjust-tags-column
 (setq org-tags-column 1)
 (ba/org-adjust-tags-column-reset-tags)))

(defun ba/org-adjust-tags-column-after-save ()
  (ba/org-adjust-tags-column-maybe)
  (set-buffer-modified-p nil))

; automatically align tags on right-hand side
(add-hook 'window-configuration-change-hook
  'ba/org-adjust-tags-column-maybe)
(add-hook 'before-save-hook 'ba/org-adjust-tags-column-before-save)
(add-hook 'after-save-hook 'ba/org-adjust-tags-column-after-save)


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Re: [Orgmode] Dynamically adjusti tags position

2009-07-08 Thread Bastien
Hi Benjamin,

Benjamin Andresen  writes:

> I wrote a bit of code that allows me to have the tags always at the
> utmost right position in the file... I often have windows that are
> bigger than the standard 80 characters wide default and I dislike seeing
> the tags in the middle of the window.

I see...

> I started doing this and found out that adjusting the tags every time I
> resize a window breaks tracking org-mode files with git. If the last
> window is just a bit smaller than last time, the complete line will be
> shown as a diff. Therefor hooks are used to reset the column variable to
> 1 so that git tracking still works.

Maybe a safer solution would be to use an overlay for displaying tags.

This way you don't need to worry that changes in the tag display will
be seen as a diff.  But maybe there are already too many overlays on 
an Org page...

> If anyone wants to use this or want to look over it if I could do this
> smarter, I'm very happy.

I tried it.  Just replace defcustom by setq, because the defcustom
definition is wrong here.

It works very well for small files, but the hooks are slowing down Emacs
display for big files (i.e. the 400k Org file in which I spend my daily
life.)  Perhaps using overlays would also fix this...

> If the response is positive I'll clean it up a bit and maybe it is worth
> a contribution or a worg page. :-)

Definitely worth a new "Org hacks" entry!

  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php

Just send me your username on repo.or.cz.

Thanks!

-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Underscores again - HTML and LaTeX exporting.

2009-07-08 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

I found this by trying to export Bernt Hansen's org-mode tutorial  
[1] to

HTML and LaTeX. Bernt's IRC nick is Thumper_ and it appears in the
AUTHOR option as follows:

#+AUTHOR: Bernt Hansen (IRC:Thumper_ on freenode)

When exported to HTML, everything is fine. When exported to LaTeX,  
LaTeX
complains about missing $. The problem does *not* arise if the  
underscore
is in most other places in the org file, but I found one more place  
where it

does arise: in a headline, when the underscore begins the word.

Here is a small test file (hi, Sébastien;-) :

--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+AUTHOR: Nick (nick_)
#+OPTIONS: ^:{}


* foo foo_bar foo_ _bar
 foo
 foo_bar
 foo_
 _bar
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Everything works except the nick_ on the AUTHOR line and the _bar in
the headline.


Pretty sick examples ... :-)

I fixed those anyway...

- Carsten



BTW, I also tried the ^:nil option, but it did not make any  
difference.


Thanks,
Nick

[1] http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html - the org file is at 
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.org


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Re: [Orgmode] Underscores again - HTML and LaTeX exporting.

2009-07-08 Thread Bastien
Carsten Dominik  writes:

> I fixed those anyway...

So now we all know there is truly a AI-Carsten! :)

-- 
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